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I do not normally make such statements unless the situation warrants.

The way Pakistan have approached this series from pitch preparation, squad selection, on-field tactics, the casual laughing and joking with the opposition players and lack of intensity on the field has been absolutely shameful.

The preparations have been nonexistent. Our bowling coach unfortunately had a family bereavement so couldn't join until now - understandable - but his credentials are suspect to begin with.

Our head coach was confirmed just days before the series.

Due to the PSL, there was only a four day gap between the final and start of the first Test where Shaheen bowled himself into the ground, while Hasan, Shadab, Nawaz and Faheem picked up injuries. Okay the scheduling was unavoidable, but why didn't PCB manage their workload ?

I've seen Pakistani teams being outplayed by better sides. That's fair enough.

But what's not right is this non-serious attitude to the first Australia tour in 24 years. Is this how you repay fans who turned out in numbers ? Good luck attracting Test crowds in future.
 
The bigger issue is that the newly appointed Pakistani test captain thought it was more important to play a dead rubber in the PSL instead of going to the training camp ahead of the test matches for Australia.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's been a while since I've seen such an inept, timid and weak performance from Pakistan's batters in a Test match <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvsAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvsAUS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1503349036677533696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
To be honest the blame goes to chairman not players.

Chairman agreed with this schduling where psl was moved. There was no prepearation for the test series and when this point was raised all posters starting bashing that this isnt important.

Misbah was fired because of his qualifications. Ok fair enough, what about his replacement(S)? Rameez raja has infact went on to say he doesnt believe in coaches and thats a really dumb statement to come. Saqlain keeps getting hired based on ad hoc basis. We have yousuf now after few months someone else would be there. This is not how teams are built.

Than the pitches, what was more baffling was the chairman coming on media and admitting to doctoring them and than after that expects the commentators to stay quiet on this .

Than the selection issue. Abdullah shafique gets in without experience, babar is made captain, yasir shah is dropped because we dont like him and than we persisst with naseem shah only because he bowled in psl..

Im not gonna bash azhar, babar, rizwan, fawad or imam. These are our best batsmen in test. Issue is with the pcb administration here.

The pcb admin thought becauee its a home series, australia were never gonna win, but they forgot those wins came under misbas captiancy or coaching. Even with arthur as coach we lost in uae.

Had we gotten the advantage in the pi di test, losing the karachi test wouldnt had been an issue. We were on the backfoot from the first rest, and now we can rither lose the series or draw the series, but we CANNOT win the series now.

Had the pitch been a balanced one, pakistan could had taken advantage of it through its bowling. This is why tests in england are fun towatch
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">By hook or by crook <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CricketAus</a> having aggressive mindset to win the match & this historic series but on the other side I don’t know &#55358;&#56631;*♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvsAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvsAUS</a></p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/1503350499134873604?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
I do not normally make such statements unless the situation warrants.

The way Pakistan have approached this series from pitch preparation, squad selection, on-field tactics, the casual laughing and joking with the opposition players and lack of intensity on the field has been absolutely shameful.

The preparations have been nonexistent. Our bowling coach unfortunately had a family bereavement so couldn't join until now - understandable - but his credentials are suspect to begin with.

Our head coach was confirmed just days before the series.

Due to the PSL, there was only a four day gap between the final and start of the first Test where Shaheen bowled himself into the ground, while Hasan, Shadab, Nawaz and Faheem picked up injuries. Okay the scheduling was unavoidable, but why didn't PCB manage their workload ?

I've seen Pakistani teams being outplayed by better sides. That's fair enough.

But what's not right is this non-serious attitude to the first Australia tour in 24 years. Is this how you repay fans who turned out in numbers ? Good luck attracting Test crowds in future.


PCB never ever manage workloads. They don’t know that word even exist.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">By hook or by crook <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CricketAus</a> having aggressive mindset to win the match & this historic series but on the other side I don’t know ��*♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvsAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvsAUS</a></p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/1503350499134873604?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Crazy guy, they already setup their win nicely , they were kind enuf to bat again and also give some rest to their bowlers.

Pakistan won’t last 50 overs tmw, what is he talking about.

Half n hour ago Pakistan were reeling under and in the same pitch a Aus stamps authority and plays at 4.75 an over
 
Toothless spin attack, one good fast bowler only plus batsmen who aren't good against pace or quality spin. Cherry on top is timid skipper who seems to play for himself only. I mean why would you take single on first ball of every over and let no. 9-10 to face Cummins - Starc.

Pakistan test cricket is in deep trouble. Problem is when other teams are looking for one-two specific type of impactful player (like fast bowling all-rounder for India), Pakistan needs bunch of players in almost every department of game.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">By hook or by crook <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CricketAus</a> having aggressive mindset to win the match & this historic series but on the other side I don’t know &#55358;&#56631;*♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvsAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvsAUS</a></p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/1503350499134873604?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hafeez would have been the first player to have bailed if he had been playing.
 
I do not normally make such statements unless the situation warrants.

The way Pakistan have approached this series from pitch preparation, squad selection, on-field tactics, the casual laughing and joking with the opposition players and lack of intensity on the field has been absolutely shameful.

The preparations have been nonexistent. Our bowling coach unfortunately had a family bereavement so couldn't join until now - understandable - but his credentials are suspect to begin with.

Our head coach was confirmed just days before the series.

Due to the PSL, there was only a four day gap between the final and start of the first Test where Shaheen bowled himself into the ground, while Hasan, Shadab, Nawaz and Faheem picked up injuries. Okay the scheduling was unavoidable, but why didn't PCB manage their workload ?

I've seen Pakistani teams being outplayed by better sides. That's fair enough.

But what's not right is this non-serious attitude to the first Australia tour in 24 years. Is this how you repay fans who turned out in numbers ? Good luck attracting Test crowds in future.

This is on Ramiz, his focus is on making useless statements and hogging visuals rather than doing his job. Regardless of how poor the pitches and team has been, Rameez's firing on Misbah, his inability to find a replacement and then appointing useless support structure around Babar has left pakistani team exposed and to many things for Babar to deal with himself.

There was zero thinking and planning by the team in both test matches, maybe its babar, maybe its ramiz's coaching appiointee, but ultimately buck stops at mr all eyes on me raja
 
The bigger issue is that the newly appointed Pakistani test captain thought it was more important to play a dead rubber in the PSL instead of going to the training camp ahead of the test matches for Australia.

PCB are content to rake in PSL $$$ and milk the goodwill from western teams touring.

However they cannot be bothered doing the basics right like preparing a good Test surface, planning for a Test series, having permanent coaches in place, and selecting a squad based on actual numbers and recent form.

To be honest the blame goes to chairman not players.

Chairman agreed with this schduling where psl was moved. There was no prepearation for the test series and when this point was raised all posters starting bashing that this isnt important.

Misbah was fired because of his qualifications. Ok fair enough, what about his replacement(S)? Rameez raja has infact went on to say he doesnt believe in coaches and thats a really dumb statement to come. Saqlain keeps getting hired based on ad hoc basis. We have yousuf now after few months someone else would be there. This is not how teams are built.

Than the pitches, what was more baffling was the chairman coming on media and admitting to doctoring them and than after that expects the commentators to stay quiet on this .

Than the selection issue. Abdullah shafique gets in without experience, babar is made captain, yasir shah is dropped because we dont like him and than we persisst with naseem shah only because he bowled in psl..

Im not gonna bash azhar, babar, rizwan, fawad or imam. These are our best batsmen in test. Issue is with the pcb administration here.

The pcb admin thought becauee its a home series, australia were never gonna win, but they forgot those wins came under misbas captiancy or coaching. Even with arthur as coach we lost in uae.

Had we gotten the advantage in the pi di test, losing the karachi test wouldnt had been an issue. We were on the backfoot from the first rest, and now we can rither lose the series or draw the series, but we CANNOT win the series now.

Had the pitch been a balanced one, pakistan could had taken advantage of it through its bowling. This is why tests in england are fun towatch
I cannot understand the casual attitude in such a big Test series. Are we playing a benefit series ?

Ramiz obviously must be held accountable for the coaching situation. Is Saqlain there just to give shabash and well bowleds in nets ? Yousuf we all know tactically was never sharpest tool in shed.

For all of Misbah's faults as a coach, I never saw us laughing and joking with opposition in a home Test.

If Mickey was coach, you'd have seen the first on-field homicide committed by a cricket coach.
 
I thought it was all about winning hearts and winning friends and not about winning cricket matches?

Apologies if I am mistaken.
 
The intensity was non existent. They looked very casual that is for sure.
 
The focus on psl has become soo much that rameez raja again gave a statement where he is now looking to turn psl into auction format and even went on to say now we eill see who the players will choose, ipl or psl?

The focus has become psl. The chairman is trying to create relations and goodwill to somehow keep the psl running but at the same time losing out on the world test championship.

Pakistan is currently second and icc made a schdule where they want india amd pakistan to be in the final. But raja is going to bottle this and look to promote psl over all other things
 
Cherry on top is timid skipper who seems to play for himself only. I mean why would you take single on first ball of every over and let no. 9-10 to face Cummins - Starc.

It was strange to see.
 
It is one of the worst performances from Pakistan in recent times.

But, they are also playing a heavyweight team.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">148 is Pakistan's lowest total (when all out) in a Test innings in Pakistan since November 1998 when they were bowled out for 103 by Zimbabwe in Peshawar <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvAUS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1503369702256648197?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">148 all out is Pakistan's lowest total in a Test innings (when all out) since June 2018 when they were bowled out for 134 by England at Leeds <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvAUS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1503366817225584659?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">By hook or by crook <a href="https://twitter.com/CricketAus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CricketAus</a> having aggressive mindset to win the match & this historic series but on the other side I don’t know &#55358;&#56631;*♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvsAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvsAUS</a></p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/1503350499134873604?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Man sick of this guys opinions and jibes. He was a nothing player. Did nothing all his career. First to fail if others did. And he should thank Butt and Butt's fixing which gave this guy a door to enter the team.

Struts around like he's a legend. Only in Pakistan
 
I completely agree with the OP here. This has been a much anticipated series and so far nothing absolutely nothing has been showcased by any player which demonstrates that they were looking forward to this series and challenge.

I'm aghast at the quality of pitches dished out. This is a mockery of test cricket and after this is done there would be calls that test cricket is finished. When such are the playing conditions then what can you expect from critics. Shambolic ground management from PCB. Its beyond pathetic the massacre PCB carried out in Rawalpindi. Historically Rawalpindi has been one of the more livelier pitches in Pakistan that was completely dead for the opening match of the series. And now Karachi plays out this way as well. Australia will go on to win this match but this is a slap on face of PCB anyway where touring teams are amassing totals close to 500 in each innings they have played so far.

Babar Azam the captain has been horrendous. This guy went in with negative line and length bowling on Day 1 of test match when opposition was not completely on top either. How clueless have you got to be that you bowl negative lines in anticipation of new ball thinking new ball would work wonders. This is Pakistan and pitch is dead it ain't NZ where new ball talks here older balls are much more effective as shown by Australian pacers. Ideally given the hardness of the new ball a spinner should have bowled from one end to extract whatever they can from hard new ball while a pacer should bowl from 20 overs old ball to extract the reverse on offer however captain clueless really didn't manage this well. I like Babar as a player but I doubt he would make it big as a captain.

The bowlers (Shaheen, Hasan, Sajid and Nauman). I would not say much bad about the bowlers as they have been let down massively by PCB by making them toil under conditions which are frankly horrific.

Azhar and Fawad. If anything these both guys should be piling runs in these conditions as this is really bread and butter for them. Unfortunately both of them failed and with a fairly long season at home coming up if they both cannot conjure some winning scores then frankly we should move on from them. Having said that utilise them for these home conditions as this is where you can extract best out of them.

Overall this series have been very painful to watch. The body language is beyond pathetic and reactions are as if loss wouldn't matter. The least they can do is be serious about their job and put on a passionate display even that is missing at the moment. It seems like the success of PSL is now obtained and we can completely drop our guard in international cricket. Ultimately we as fans have to suffer this dead contest.
 
I've never seen a Pakistan less serious about winning than during this series.

More than the performances, it's the attitude that stunk. The laughing, joking and backslapping with the opposition like a bunch of starstruck teens seeing their favourite celebrities.

The minnow bashing last year and the T20 World Cup (which has been overhyped as we had 10 years of experience of UAE conditions) created a fake "feelgood" factor.

The captain and coach are responsible for team culture, and both should honestly go for this debacle.
 
TBH, if you at look at our personnel, the writing was on the wall. A team consisting of expired players like Azhar and Fawad and useless spinners was never going to compete with no.1 ranked side and execute plans (if they had any).

All they were good for was this backslapping, joking around and cutting cakes. So it seems the feelgood factor is still well and truly on.
 
To be honest the blame goes to chairman not players.

Chairman agreed with this schduling where psl was moved. There was no prepearation for the test series and when this point was raised all posters starting bashing that this isnt important.

Misbah was fired because of his qualifications. Ok fair enough, what about his replacement(S)? Rameez raja has infact went on to say he doesnt believe in coaches and thats a really dumb statement to come. Saqlain keeps getting hired based on ad hoc basis. We have yousuf now after few months someone else would be there. This is not how teams are built.

Than the pitches, what was more baffling was the chairman coming on media and admitting to doctoring them and than after that expects the commentators to stay quiet on this .

Than the selection issue. Abdullah shafique gets in without experience, babar is made captain, yasir shah is dropped because we dont like him and than we persisst with naseem shah only because he bowled in psl..

Im not gonna bash azhar, babar, rizwan, fawad or imam. These are our best batsmen in test. Issue is with the pcb administration here.

The pcb admin thought becauee its a home series, australia were never gonna win, but they forgot those wins came under misbas captiancy or coaching. Even with arthur as coach we lost in uae.

Had we gotten the advantage in the pi di test, losing the karachi test wouldnt had been an issue. We were on the backfoot from the first rest, and now we can rither lose the series or draw the series, but we CANNOT win the series now.

Had the pitch been a balanced one, pakistan could had taken advantage of it through its bowling. This is why tests in england are fun towatch
What kind of a stupid post is this? Was the sole reason to do Misbah cheer-leading? Fans like you are the reason we are trash at the moment, sticking to unproven agendas and not thinking ahead of the game.

You won’t bash your ‘best’ batsmen who couldn’t match up to their Australian counterparts in their own HOME conditions? You will only bash the chairman or the bowling coach or the maalishya because they were responsible for rightfully kicking out the worst cancer Pakistan cricket has ever had? Stop molly-coddling these players, it’s high time they start taking responsibility for their own nonsense on the field. Azhar, Imam and Fawad were trash in this series, where they regularly crumbled under pressure and took too long to get themselves set and wanted to block everything that came their way. Had the pitches been balanced we would still have lost, because these losers think the Pakistan team is their baap ka maal and it can go to hell, while they are content cementing their places by trying to play 6 hours block-a-thons.

Australia didn’t uproot trees with their RR, but they kept the game moving and you knew they will capitalize on a bad delivery. Watching Azhar and Fawad bat makes my blood boil, when they are satisfied leaving half-volleys and get done eventually due to their technical issues or by playing stupid shots, after not having scored much anyway.

Pakistan never played to win a match in this series, we let slip a great opportunity on Day 3 where we scored 25 runs in 17 overs in a passage of play!
 
Pakistan did good in Karachi. Batting for 2 days to save a Test match is no joke.

But, other than that, they had quite a negative mindset.
 
Pakistan did good in Karachi. Batting for 2 days to save a Test match is no joke.

But, other than that, they had quite a negative mindset.
Karachi was solely down to Babar and Abdullah Shafique, half our batting line-up went missing in that test too.

Completely agree with the OP, I genuinely wanted Australia to win because of their sporting declaration yesterday. As a Pakistan fan, I’m disgusted.
 
Pakistan should have prepared a total spin track in Pindi where the ball should have turned from day one. The Aussies were touring after long time with no clue about the conditions and pitches. Also, remember they had not even one practice game under their belt. This was our golden opportunity to take a lead and then we should have prepared total batting tracks in the next two tests and played our usual negative, defensive cricket to draw these tests.
 
At the time of his appointment the Chairman was very vocal that he wants Pakistan to start playing an aggressive brand of cricket. No fear, positively, etc etc. They why did he advocate for these pitches and defensive strategy/mindset?
 
The wickets were set up to protect the Pak batsmen against the fear of Starc, Cummins et al.
In the process, they negating their most potent weapon ie Afridi.
Sort of reasonable if we had world class spinners but we don’t.
Defensive mindset which has cost the series (though I still think it likely that Aus would have won on either greener wickets or on rank turners).
They are the better side in all conditions.
 
What kind of a stupid post is this? Was the sole reason to do Misbah cheer-leading? Fans like you are the reason we are trash at the moment, sticking to unproven agendas and not thinking ahead of the game.

You won’t bash your ‘best’ batsmen who couldn’t match up to their Australian counterparts in their own HOME conditions? You will only bash the chairman or the bowling coach or the maalishya because they were responsible for rightfully kicking out the worst cancer Pakistan cricket has ever had? Stop molly-coddling these players, it’s high time they start taking responsibility for their own nonsense on the field. Azhar, Imam and Fawad were trash in this series, where they regularly crumbled under pressure and took too long to get themselves set and wanted to block everything that came their way. Had the pitches been balanced we would still have lost, because these losers think the Pakistan team is their baap ka maal and it can go to hell, while they are content cementing their places by trying to play 6 hours block-a-thons.

Australia didn’t uproot trees with their RR, but they kept the game moving and you knew they will capitalize on a bad delivery. Watching Azhar and Fawad bat makes my blood boil, when they are satisfied leaving half-volleys and get done eventually due to their technical issues or by playing stupid shots, after not having scored much anyway.

Pakistan never played to win a match in this series, we let slip a great opportunity on Day 3 where we scored 25 runs in 17 overs in a passage of play!

The guy who you call cancer, atleast he defeated australia in iae 2-0
 
The most shameless batting display was from mr GOAT the saviour the fighter fawad useless Alam.
He scored at the mighty average of 8.
He is the GOAT better than Bradman Viv Richards and all.
 
The guy who you call cancer, atleast he defeated australia in iae 2-0

Misbah needs to comeback as the chairman.

Also, at least he understands home conditions better then most and excellent at executing a game plan in asian conditions.
 
Its been a horrible, totally negative pakistan performance in all aspects

The batsmen selected, the pitches, the run rate, the intent, the use of drs, how the tail have surrendered, all have been self preservation and negative

They deserved this loss The management and personel have been a total shambles
 
The wickets were set up to protect the Pak batsmen against the fear of Starc, Cummins et al.
In the process, they negating their most potent weapon ie Afridi.
Sort of reasonable if we had world class spinners but we don’t.
Defensive mindset which has cost the series (though I still think it likely that Aus would have won on either greener wickets or on rank turners).
They are the better side in all conditions.
Very true!
I think from now on we should only invite West Indies, Bangladesh, South Africa and Sri Lanka. Against these sides at least we will be playing on proper pitches with no fear.
 
Its been a horrible, totally negative pakistan performance in all aspects

The batsmen selected, the pitches, the run rate, the intent, the use of drs, how the tail have surrendered, all have been self preservation and negative

They deserved this loss The management and personel have been a total shambles

The sad part is very soon all will be forgotten. We will win a few ODIs and T20s against minnows along with a rare win in an ICC tournament against India. The fans are happy, the media is happy...
That's Pakistan cricket for you!
 
lets see if lessons are learnt in SL, NZ and eng series. with current set up it will be more defeats.
 
Pakistan will only improve with playing against quality opposition on a regular basis. Hopefully when the kiwis tour then they make better wickets.
 
Pakistan will only improve with playing against quality opposition on a regular basis. Hopefully when the kiwis tour then they make better wickets.

I think Pakistan should beat NZ and England at home.

Kiwis and Poms aren't generally as tough as the Aussies.
 
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I think Pakistan should beat NZ and England at home.

Kiwis and Poms aren't generally as tough as the Aussies.

I don't see Pakistan beating anyone at bar perhaps Sri Lanka and the West Indies. Away from home forget about it, they lost 1-0 to England despite being in the box seat in the last test and they get thrashed nowadays when they play New Zealand.
 
I think Pakistan should beat NZ and England at home.

Kiwis and Poms aren't generally as tough as the Aussies.

I love your optimism dude, we’re gonna beat this, that and the other.

Lekin jab time atha hai, kukh bhi nai hotha.
 
At the time of his appointment the Chairman was very vocal that he wants Pakistan to start playing an aggressive brand of cricket. No fear, positively, etc etc. They why did he advocate for these pitches and defensive strategy/mindset?

Ramiz is a complete fraud
 
I do not normally make such statements unless the situation warrants.

The way Pakistan have approached this series from pitch preparation, squad selection, on-field tactics, the casual laughing and joking with the opposition players and lack of intensity on the field has been absolutely shameful.

The preparations have been nonexistent. Our bowling coach unfortunately had a family bereavement so couldn't join until now - understandable - but his credentials are suspect to begin with.

Our head coach was confirmed just days before the series.

Due to the PSL, there was only a four day gap between the final and start of the first Test where Shaheen bowled himself into the ground, while Hasan, Shadab, Nawaz and Faheem picked up injuries. Okay the scheduling was unavoidable, but why didn't PCB manage their workload ?

I've seen Pakistani teams being outplayed by better sides. That's fair enough.

But what's not right is this non-serious attitude to the first Australia tour in 24 years. Is this how you repay fans who turned out in numbers ? Good luck attracting Test crowds in future.


On the contrary, I think it wasn't as bad as it may look like.
The first test was sorta boring.
The second one was a pretty even contest. Pakistan was pushed into a hole and we fought back against all odds, almost won it - but a draw wasn't bad either.

The third test?
Toss was important. We all know how the pitch plays on day 5. It's usually never easy to defend in such a situation.

IMO. what truly left a super bad taste in the mouth with eggs of sheer embarrassment on our faces was this EXTRA STUPID video by Ramiz where he stated that we prepared such pitches to avoid Australia's wrath.
That timid mindset and that display of stupidity and cowardice, incompetence, lack of vision and that inability to inspire, was THE MOST cringeworthy episode i have ever seen by any board chairman of any country. This single act was worse than Ijaz Butt's entire regime.

If Ramiz had only shut it up, this series loss wouldn't look as bad.
 
I think Pakistan should beat NZ and England at home.

Kiwis and Poms aren't generally as tough as the Aussies.

NZ are no walkovers. They beat Pakistan in the UAE 2-1 in 2018. They may not be in your face as the aussies but they are calm and more methodical about their cricket. Williamson will have a field day against our ineffective bowlers.
 
I still maintain as always: Our best chance to win a test series against a strong opposition is GREEN WICKETS. Pak batsmen are just as a fire cracker case - you never know how many duds would show up. Our fast bowlers can win us a test - period.
 
Honestly, I think it was an exceptional performance bearing in mind we were carrying 5 or 6 players...
4 of which failed to contribute at all...
 
You have to face the facts- and the facts are that the players who are selected as 'test specialists' are abysmal, and already old.

In the PCB training videos you have guys like Nauman, Sajid, Abid (earlier), Abbas, Fawad, Azhar et al preparing for playing test matches exclusively. C'mon, that is a joke. The guys are rusty, with limited skill, and have no ambition rather than play 6-8 tests a year. That is not how you make good teams.

The PCB need to come out of this stupid mindset that test matches need 'experienced' players. This logic makes no sense at all. And the results are in front of us.
 
Misbah needs to comeback as the chairman.

Also, at least he understands home conditions better then most and excellent at executing a game plan in asian conditions.

Failed as a captain, coach , selector and now u want him to try his luck as Chairman.

Kittens never become Tigers
 
I still maintain as always: Our best chance to win a test series against a strong opposition is GREEN WICKETS. Pak batsmen are just as a fire cracker case - you never know how many duds would show up. Our fast bowlers can win us a test - period.

Agreed!
But the problem is there are players in the team who will not be able to play comfortably as they play in dead wickets. These are the same players who are invalid in modern cricket.
 
The wickets were set up to protect the Pak batsmen against the fear of Starc, Cummins et al.
In the process, they negating their most potent weapon ie Afridi.
Sort of reasonable if we had world class spinners but we don’t.
Defensive mindset which has cost the series (though I still think it likely that Aus would have won on either greener wickets or on rank turners).
They are the better side in all conditions.

Absolutely spot on!!
Unfortunately who are these batsman that needed to be protected. The same player who added zilch in the entire series apart from one or two nice innings where pressure was off.
 
I think Pakistan should beat NZ and England at home.

Kiwis and Poms aren't generally as tough as the Aussies.

NZ last 2 series in UAE they won 2-1 and drew 1-1. They do well vs pakistan.
 
On the contrary, I think it wasn't as bad as it may look like.
The first test was sorta boring.
The second one was a pretty even contest. Pakistan was pushed into a hole and we fought back against all odds, almost won it - but a draw wasn't bad either.

The third test?
Toss was important. We all know how the pitch plays on day 5. It's usually never easy to defend in such a situation.

IMO. what truly left a super bad taste in the mouth with eggs of sheer embarrassment on our faces was this EXTRA STUPID video by Ramiz where he stated that we prepared such pitches to avoid Australia's wrath.
That timid mindset and that display of stupidity and cowardice, incompetence, lack of vision and that inability to inspire, was THE MOST cringeworthy episode i have ever seen by any board chairman of any country. This single act was worse than Ijaz Butt's entire regime.

If Ramiz had only shut it up, this series loss wouldn't look as bad.

Agreed....Rameez made it worse with his illogical statements
 
Agreed....Rameez made it worse with his illogical statements

When you have these sort of pseudo PR men running the show, actual battles are lost.

What was this all about the displaying of 92 Cup trophy at Gaddafi and distribution of T shirts of 92 cup before start of 5th day.
Just PR and marketing stunts. Battle is on the ground and Cummins grounded Babar.

Does Babar even realize that he has lost home Test series as captain ?

Does he even know history of Kardar, Mushtaq, Imran and Misbah ( importance of not losing at home).

Obviously he will not, because there is this PR guy appointed pcb head, who has inferiority complex against dashing Brandon McCullum or Pontings or Cummins.
 
Poor planning

Poor captaincy

Poor pitches

Defensive mindset

Chairman making random statement after statement during the series

All in all an absolute shambles
 
I think it was well fought series, considering our inexperienced pace attack and ineffective spinners. Bowlers win you matches and in Asia, mostly spinners. Overall I enjoyed the series, the last day of 2nd and 3rd test was Gold! And fans were just wow I never expected such a huge crowd (at Pindi or Khi) for a test match.
 
Horrific and shameful, heads need to roll for this sheer incompetency.

But no, we will get cake cutting instead and pats on the back. We deserve this humiliation.
 
My issue is with defensive mindset of this team and players.

Same.

The series was over before it even began.

Defensive pitches, defensive captaincy, and defensive batting. It's bizarre to see a group of athletes not even care about winning.

Respect to Cummins for showing courage with a sporting declaration. Just for that, he and Australia deserved to win.
 
Saqlain needs to be sacked. He is ok with many useless selections as usual.
 
Pakistan is missing a spinner like Ajmal. Pakistan should learn to prepare tracks like India does. They are being too generous towards opposition. If they can't learn from Indian then at least learn from Bangladesh. :inti
 
Pakistan is missing a spinner like Ajmal. Pakistan should learn to prepare tracks like India does. They are being too generous towards opposition. If they can't learn from Indian then at least learn from Bangladesh. :inti

Lol at being "too generous". The whole reason behind preparing flat pattas was to negate the Aussie bowling attack and to secure useless draws right from day 1 of the series.

It's good for them that Pakistan didn't prepare turners. Lyon, Agar, Swepson is a better spin attack than Sajid , Nauman, Iftikhar. 1-0 sounds much better than 2-1 or 2-0 provided Australia won 2/3 tosses.
 
Lol at being "too generous". The whole reason behind preparing flat pattas was to negate the Aussie bowling attack and to secure useless draws right from day 1 of the series.

It's good for them that Pakistan didn't prepare turners. Lyon, Agar, Swepson is a better spin attack than Sajid , Nauman, Iftikhar. 1-0 sounds much better than 2-1 or 2-0 provided Australia won 2/3 tosses.

That is why I said they are missing a spinner like Ajmal who would have run through Aussie batting line up in a session. :inti
 
Australian mentality is to win, Pakistani mentality is to not lose.

This is the reason they have 5 world cups and we have won only 1. They play to win, we play to not fail.

It is only downhill from here. We will never improve because we are a gutless, talentless and a meek outfit.

This mindset for fear of failure, fear of change has creeped in for long.. They need to find that ruthless person , probably that hardtask coach, who make that voice in the dressing room , who can untie this mindset from the dressing room
 
Agreed!
But the problem is there are players in the team who will not be able to play comfortably as they play in dead wickets. These are the same players who are invalid in modern cricket.

Well...ideally those are the players needed to get exposed if there is a will to be successful in tests. Professionalism and Pak unfortunately don't co-exist. PCB is as unprofessional as anything in Pak. Until and Unless we change our thinking, we will remain mediocre.
 
More than defeat I am disappointed with the negative, timid and selfish brand of these current Pakistani cricksters. They may improve their stats but for me this brand of cricket is unwatchable. I have never seen a team filled with more selfish and rockstar players than this current team.

A few players are overhyped and few are selfish while others are just not good enough.

I totally agree with Mohammad Hafeez. There needs to be change of mentality. It's not just about winning but how you win it. Defeatist and coward approach like this will never appeal fans.
 
Well...ideally those are the players needed to get exposed if there is a will to be successful in tests. Professionalism and Pak unfortunately don't co-exist. PCB is as unprofessional as anything in Pak. Until and Unless we change our thinking, we will remain mediocre.

It is one thing to lose but to glorify 250 balls 70 on a phatta wicket like Karachi just tells you about these guys mentality. It didn't look like a Pak vs Aus game but rather Zimbabwe vs Aus. Even the Zimbabwe managed to win a test in their home so maybe we are worse?

The way Ramiz asked commentators to not criticise pitch showed where our priorities are. It's just about good PR and not about actual positive direction.
 
The way Imam was glorifying his hundreds in Rwp in the newspapers it looked like he scored these on grassy Johanesburg pitch and won his team the match. Totally selfish bunch of individuals.
 
More than defeat I am disappointed with the negative, timid and selfish brand of these current Pakistani cricksters. They may improve their stats but for me this brand of cricket is unwatchable. I have never seen a team filled with more selfish and rockstar players than this current team.

A few players are overhyped and few are selfish while others are just not good enough.

I totally agree with Mohammad Hafeez. There needs to be change of mentality. It's not just about winning but how you win it. Defeatist and coward approach like this will never appeal fans.

Hafeez who himself was playing till he turned 40 shouldn't say anything. Guys like him are the reason why Pakistan is in this state. They don't retire on time and don't let youngsters develop at the right time, then these same guys come and complain the system after retirement.

Also why are guys like Nauman Ali playing? Are there no young spinners in Pakistan? In my opinion this senior culture is the reason behind Pakistan's downfall. :inti
 
Hafeez who himself was playing till he turned 40 shouldn't say anything. Guys like him are the reason why Pakistan is in this state. They don't retire on time and don't let youngsters develop at the right time, then these same guys come and complain the system after retirement.

Also why are guys like Nauman Ali playing? Are there no young spinners in Pakistan? In my opinion this senior culture is the reason behind Pakistan's downfall. :inti

It's about the message not about the messenger.

BTW Hafeez really did change his approach late in his career. He was the reason we won CT final and Lahore winning PSL.
 
It's about the message not about the messenger.

BTW Hafeez really did change his approach late in his career. He was the reason we won CT final and Lahore winning PSL.

Well, you got too much respect for a player that is an iconic definition of mediocrity in pak cricket structure. He was as useless as any out there when a pitch had a little bit of a juice.

Also, CT was won due to the effort of mainly Amir and then Fakhar - Hafeez just chipped-in on a batting paradise as usual. He did fail mostly when needed in the big tournaments. Why not look at his WC performances since that 2017 CT final. If there was a good batsman with his experience, he would have at least have a reasonable performance in 2019 WC.
 
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There's a lot of mediocrity in Pakistan cricket at the moment.

Too many players in various formats who flatter to deceive and rarely perform, yet they are picked again and again.

Lots of average cricketers who couldn't win Pakistan a match even if they played hundreds of times.
 
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There's a lot of mediocrity in Pakistan cricket at the moment.

Too many players in various formats who flatter to deceive and rarely perform, yet they are picked again and again.

Lots of average cricketers who couldn't win Pakistan a match even if they played hundreds of times.
Totally agree with you and what more shameful is a PCB PR stunt in social media trying to hide their mediocrity with cringeworthy post's.
 
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Our Odi team is in more shambles ranked at 10 how low we can stoop genuinely no match winner in that side add to it the wickets will be flat and our bowling is gun barrel will struggle big time also the skipper is unimaginative and the openers are too docile for modern day cricket not to mention the inherent problem lack of strike rotation coupled with woeful fielding all in all its a complete disaster
 
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There's a lot of mediocrity in Pakistan cricket at the moment.

Too many players in various formats who flatter to deceive and rarely perform, yet they are picked again and again.

Lots of average cricketers who couldn't win Pakistan a match even if they played hundreds of times.

During past 30 years and it is a long time, technically meaning 3 generation of cricketers.
Pakistan has only played in 2 world cup semi finals.
1999 and 2011. Campaigns of 96/03/07/15/19 were very disappointing.

If we go further back, during initial 17 years they played in 4 semi finals (79,83,87,92). Now that definitely suggests that stocks have fallen massively.

If we compare it with India and sri lanka.
India only played in 2 semi finals ( during initial 17 year period 75-92) and sri lanka nil.

But in the last 30 years india has featured in 5 semi finals (96,03,11,15,19) and sri lanka has featured in 4 (96,03,07,11).

Statistics do not lie. Our ODI stocks are not good enough. CT win shall not cover weaknesses. Even West indies won CT back in 2004 but they have only featured in 1 semi final since 1983.
 
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