Tim Hortons achieves largest opening day sales in 61 years in Lahore

[Savak]

https://images.dawn.com/news/119151...n-lacks-in-variety-it-makes-up-for-in-flavour

https://reviewit.pk/record-sales-by-tim-hortons-pakistan-gets-mixed-reactions/

Comments: Not a good look for a nation that is struggling and almost bankrupt

 

[Romali_rotti]

What in the world ???? How the heck does Pakistan get Timmys and we in Australia DONT ??????????????????????

 

[daytrader]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actual two nations theory!<br>Economic crises? For whom?<br>1st 2 pictures are of Candian cafe Tim Hortons opening in DHA lahore. Long queue of ruling oligarchy kins for coffee.<br>3rd & 4thpictures are of poor janta queuing up to buy aata.<br>2 Nations theory of Pakistan. <a href="https://t.co/n3MFRgx9yL">pic.twitter.com/n3MFRgx9yL</a></p>— Arif Aajakia (@arifaajakia) <a href="https://twitter.com/arifaajakia/status/1624626460827742208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[sweep_shot]

Nice.

I think it is a good decision for Tim Horton's to expand in that region.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nice.

I think it is a good decision for Tim Horton's to expand in that region.

Evidently. There are people loaded with cash in Pakistan, not paying taxes certainly helps.

 

[Savak]

I wonder if this will motivate Starbucks to come to Pakistan. I believe they wanted to come to Pakistan but they were unhappy with our taxation system and the amount of corruption involved in setting up a business in Pakistan. This was during the time when PPP were in charge when Zardari was President

 

[Savak]

I won't be surprised if 50-60% of the Pakistani economy is undocumented and outside the tax net.

 

[JaDed]

I saw this and didn’t want to open a thread but now that is here can anyone tell how much is the coffee there?
I remember starbucks prices were insane in India when good coffee was available across South India, north India unfortunately doesn’t have good local coffee shops.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actual two nations theory!<br>Economic crises? For whom?<br>1st 2 pictures are of Candian cafe Tim Hortons opening in DHA lahore. Long queue of ruling oligarchy kins for coffee.<br>3rd & 4thpictures are of poor janta queuing up to buy aata.<br>2 Nations theory of Pakistan. <a href="https://t.co/n3MFRgx9yL">pic.twitter.com/n3MFRgx9yL</a></p>— Arif Aajakia (@arifaajakia) <a href="https://twitter.com/arifaajakia/status/1624626460827742208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Another tariq what's his name?

 

[Local.Dada]

I know Canadians are obsessed with it and I can understand the craze when ever a foreign franchise opens up in our part of the world but to me it always felt like your average office coffee machine type of coffee. Not a fan

 

[Technics 1210]

Not surprised. Pakistan would need to head to IMF if Pakistanis paid tax.

The pictures of long queues is a juxtaposition of unpaid taxes being spent.

 

[Kroll]

I saw this and didn’t want to open a thread but now that is here can anyone tell how much is the coffee there?
I remember starbucks prices were insane in India when good coffee was available across South India, north India unfortunately doesn’t have good local coffee shops.

Prices - https://www.restaurantmenu.pk/tim-hortons-lahore-menu/

 

[JaDed]

Prices - https://www.restaurantmenu.pk/tim-hortons-lahore-menu/

Thanks better priced that Starbucks is in India after conversion.. nothing crosses $2 us in this one..

 

[SpiritOf1903]

I wonder if this will motivate Starbucks to come to Pakistan. I believe they wanted to come to Pakistan but they were unhappy with our taxation system and the amount of corruption involved in setting up a business in Pakistan. This was during the time when PPP were in charge when Zardari was President

It's not even coffee

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

They have a Toni and Guy salon in Lahore. They will happily pay over £100 for a hair appointment there and the place is heaving.

 

[Bewal Express]

Quite incredible. They must make coffee that is dusted with gold

 

[Savak]

The country will be bankrupt, going through wars but trust me, the resteraunts, dhabas, cafes will always be jampacked and then you question where is the mehngai?

Trust me, the bulk of the Pakistani economy is either undocumented or outside the tax net. Shabbar Zaidi the last FBR Chairman tried very hard to increase documentation, get traders, land owners, small businesses in the tax net but every month he had to deal with a stay order in courts which prevented his hands.

 

[KingKhanWC]

They have a Toni and Guy salon in Lahore. They will happily pay over £100 for a hair appointment there and the place is heaving.

Ive never been to Toni and guy, have a regular barber but here in the UK most men who work there are gay, wondering if the Pakistan branch also has the same.

As for Tim Hortons, vastly overrated. Whenever I visit Pakistan, my relatives want to take me to western food outlets and I refuse. I tried to explain there is no need to eat rubbish food such as Maccies, Burger King when there is a amazing traditional food in Pakistan. Even if I feel like Pizza or Burger, there are local Pakistani restaurants which serve better.

 

[Savak]

Btw, i prefer Tim Hortons to Starbucks.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Quite incredible. They must make coffee that is dusted with gold

Inferiority complex. Some think eating western food makes them more important when in reality it truly is junk rubbish they are consuming.

 

[Bewal Express]

I has Starbucks coffee once and it was awful. Desi chaa any day of the week

 

[Pakpak]

Ive never been to Toni and guy, have a regular barber but here in the UK most men who work there are gay, wondering if the Pakistan branch also has the same.

As for Tim Hortons, vastly overrated. Whenever I visit Pakistan, my relatives want to take me to western food outlets and I refuse. I tried to explain there is no need to eat rubbish food such as Maccies, Burger King when there is a amazing traditional food in Pakistan. Even if I feel like Pizza or Burger, there are local Pakistani restaurants which serve better.

This, the delicious food dhabbas serve in Pakistan is unreal and would give anything for that to be here in the West

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Ive never been to Toni and guy, have a regular barber but here in the UK most men who work there are gay, wondering if the Pakistan branch also has the same.

As for Tim Hortons, vastly overrated. Whenever I visit Pakistan, my relatives want to take me to western food outlets and I refuse. I tried to explain there is no need to eat rubbish food such as Maccies, Burger King when there is a amazing traditional food in Pakistan. Even if I feel like Pizza or Burger, there are local Pakistani restaurants which serve better.

Must confess I have never been to a McDonalds even when in a Muslim country. Burger King I've done a couple of times with mixed results. It can be really good depending on the standards of the restaurant itself. I've nothing against these places, but even in England there are far better burger joints being run by Brit Pakistanis.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The divide between the rich and the poor in Pakistan is growing wider by the day.

The upper class in Pakistan lives a life of comfort and luxury, with access to all the latest conveniences and amenities. They have the resources to provide their children with quality education and opportunities, and they live in well-appointed homes with all the latest technologies. In contrast, the lower class in Pakistan is struggling just to survive, with poverty levels that are among the highest in the world. Many families in this class are unable to provide their children with basic necessities such as food, clothing, and shelter, and they live in overcrowded and often unsanitary conditions.

The root cause of this wealth disparity in Pakistan is a complex issue, but it is largely due to the unequal distribution of resources and opportunities. The wealthy elite control much of the country's wealth and resources, and they often use their power and influence to maintain their position at the top. Meanwhile, the lower classes are left with limited opportunities to improve their lives, and they are often trapped in a cycle of poverty that is difficult to break.

 

[Varun]

A few observations:

1. Pakistan might be going through an economic crisis, but this is another proof that the rich/upper middle class of society are impacted last. They might curtail buying cars and houses but these frivolous expenses remain.

2. Another thing that might have something to do with this is the location: Defence Housing Authority (DHA), Lahore. We know those guys are impacted even later in the chain of an economic crisis.

3. I don't think Tim Horton's exists in India. Pretty interesting they have chosen to expand in Pakistan first.

 

[KingKhanWC]

This, the delicious food dhabbas serve in Pakistan is unreal and would give anything for that to be here in the West

100%. The food in most of these dhabbas is more fresher than in western food outlets. Why go to Hortons for a doughnut or sandwich which is 5x more pricey and not as tasty.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Must confess I have never been to a McDonalds even when in a Muslim country. Burger King I've done a couple of times with mixed results. It can be really good depending on the standards of the restaurant itself. I've nothing against these places, but even in England there are far better burger joints being run by Brit Pakistanis.

Its the branding, people are almost compelled to visit after watching strong advertising. Yes, there are Pak food places in most towns in the UK now, great burgers and in many you can finish off your meal with a karak chai now.

I went to Mcdonalds once in Pakistan, it was dreadful.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Its the branding, people are almost compelled to visit after watching strong advertising. Yes, there are Pak food places in most towns in the UK now, great burgers and in many you can finish off your meal with a karak chai now.

I went to Mcdonalds once in Pakistan, it was dreadful.

The food in Pakistan is amazing, plenty of Youtube vloggers have chronicled it, and they tend to seek out the street food, and avoid the big restaurants. Although some of the big name restaurants like Monals is pretty great too.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

A few observations:

1. Pakistan might be going through an economic crisis, but this is another proof that the rich/upper middle class of society are impacted last. They might curtail buying cars and houses but these frivolous expenses remain.

2. Another thing that might have something to do with this is the location: Defence Housing Authority (DHA), Lahore. We know those guys are impacted even later in the chain of an economic crisis.

3. I don't think Tim Horton's exists in India. Pretty interesting they have chosen to expand in Pakistan first.

Defence is mainly civilian population.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The food in Pakistan is amazing, plenty of Youtube vloggers have chronicled it, and they tend to seek out the street food, and avoid the big restaurants. Although some of the big name restaurants like Monals is pretty great too.

If you continue further up past Monals, you will get to highland resort. The views are incredible, the food is excellent and the sisha is decent too.

https://www.highlandresort.com.pk/restaurants

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I wonder if this will motivate Starbucks to come to Pakistan. I believe they wanted to come to Pakistan but they were unhappy with our taxation system and the amount of corruption involved in setting up a business in Pakistan. This was during the time when PPP were in charge when Zardari was President

I think they backed out due to percieved lack of demand of coffee.

I know a few people who tried to take a Costa Coffee franchise to Pakistan but were unsuccessful because an earlier store in Karachi had closed down.

Javed Afridi also tried at some point.

However I believe Costa has happened/will open shortly so I think the brands are realising that it is an attractive proposition.

The success of Tim Horton will hopefully convince many others.

 

[Energy]

I think they backed out due to percieved lack of demand of coffee.

I know a few people who tried to take a Costa Coffee franchise to Pakistan but were unsuccessful because an earlier store in Karachi had closed down.

Javed Afridi also tried at some point.

However I believe Costa has happened/will open shortly so I think the brands are realising that it is an attractive proposition.

The success of Tim Horton will hopefully convince many others.

Costa has opened in Lahore in DHA phase 6. It's very popular as well.

The coffee scene in Pakistan has picked up gradually in the main cities and these big brands are reaping rewards as there's a sizeable part of the population to exploit.

 

[Savak]

I think they backed out due to percieved lack of demand of coffee.

I know a few people who tried to take a Costa Coffee franchise to Pakistan but were unsuccessful because an earlier store in Karachi had closed down.

Javed Afridi also tried at some point.

However I believe Costa has happened/will open shortly so I think the brands are realising that it is an attractive proposition.

The success of Tim Horton will hopefully convince many others.

These brands might have to consider adding Pakistani chai to their menu as well to attract Pakistani non coffee drinkers as well. Lets say if 4 friends go to a coffee place, 1-2 might not be into coffee but if you offer them chai then you are able to attract a diverse clientelle.

If Mcdonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut can add a Pakistani touch to their menu then no reason why the likes of Tim Hortons, Starbucks, Costa cannot.