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TLY Dherna was a conspiracy of Punjab Govt against Federal Govt

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It was pretty clear the way Punjab govt allowed TLY people to travel from Lahore and endup in Islamabad without any issues at all. Punjab govt also made sure to stay away from defending PMLN govt in federal and they criticized federal ministers on this issue. Shahbaz Shareef statement is there for all to see how it started!

A fight for power between both Shareefs?

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LAHORE: Trouble for the embattled Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz is not over yet as it has shifted from the Abbasi government to the Shahbaz administration in Punjab after another faction of the Tehreek-i-Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLYRA) that is camping on The Mall has included more ‘pressing demands’ in the agreement it had signed with the Punjab government some weeks ago.

On Monday, the federal government had an agreement with a TLYRA faction led by Khadim Hussain Rizvi to end the 20-day Faizabad sit-in.

However, for the Punjab government the test has just begun. As the TLYRA faction led by Dr Ashraf Asif Jalali has refused to end the sit-in on The Mall till the acceptance of all its demands by the Punjab government.

A three-member team of the government headed by Railways Minister Khawaja Saad Rafique had negotiated with the TLYRA leadership and agreed that Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah would appear before a board of clerics to explain his position regarding his comments about the Ahmadi community.

On Tuesday, Mr Jalali came up with a demand for law minister’s resignation, in addition to some more strict conditions.

A PML-N leader, who is holding negotiations with Mr Jilali’s faction, asked it to withdraw its demand for Mr Sanaullah’s resignation because Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif was not ready to accept it. “Let me tell you...unlike the Abbasi government, the Shahbaz administration will not go for Sanaullah’s resignation,” he told Dawn.

Tehreek-i-Labbaik refuses to end Lahore sit-in till acceptance of all its demands

Mr Sanaullah told Dawn that he had already called on a board of ulema to clarify some video clips (about his comments on Ahmadis) and they had been satisfied.

He said the federal government had already signed a six-point agreement with the TLYRA and Mr Jalali was part of it. “Now responsibility lies with the guarantor to implement the agreement,” he said, adding that Mr Jalali was angry as he was not taken on board by Mr Rizvi. “We will not accept any more demand of the protesters,” Mr Sanaullah made it clear.

Saad Rafique having the blessing of the Punjab government had signed a six-point agreement with Mr Jalali’s four-member team when the TLYRA activists were leaving for Islamabad to hold a sit-in. Minister of State for Interior Talal Chaudhry and Islamabad Deputy Commissioner retired Mushtaq Ahmed were other members of the government team.

According to the agreement, blasphemy convict Christian woman Aasia Bibi would not be allowed to leave the country and the government would implement the court decision in her case.

“Those responsible for change in the Khatm-i-Nubuwat clause should be identified and punished and the government should take ulema on board in this regard. The ban on use of more than one loudspeaker in mosques should be lifted forthwith. A consultative committee of ulema should be constituted to see matters related to those conspiring against the Khatm-i-Nubuwat and the misuse of this law,” the agreement says.

“Now Mr Jilali who says he is the main stakeholder of this matter, and not Khadim Hussain Rizvi, has added more strict conditions to this agreement which are not easy for the government to accept,” the PML-N leader said, adding that the protesters seemed to have “some other designs”.

To give a goodwill gesture to the Mall Road sit-in protesters, Shahbaz Sharif on Tuesday ordered immediate release of leaders and workers of the TLYRA who were taken into custody a few days ago.

Talking to Dawn, Tehreek leader Asif Jalali said his movement’s three demands had not been met so far. These include resignation of the Punjab law minister for his controversial remarks, Qisas for those killed during the nationwide sit-in and making public the report of Raja Zafarul Haq-led committee.

“The government had promised to provide the Haq report within 20 days. It has been more than 20 days now,” he said, adding that the withdrawal of FIRs against those arrested during the sit-in and their release was a secondary issue.

About the longevity of the sit-in, Mr Jalali said only the Tehreek leadership could decide when to wind up, but it would most probably happen only after these demands were met.

So far, he added, the Punjab government had only offered to send its law minister to explain his point of view and background of the controversial statement, which had not satisfied the movement.

With the main artery of the city blocked, a huge traffic mess was witnessed on The Mall and all adjoining roads. The situation was so bad that the motorists on some sections of the roads covered a distance of half a kilometre in two hours or so.

This bumper-to-bumper mess was witnessed on Lawrence Road, Moang Road, Fane Road, Safan Wala Chowk, Cooper Road, Kashmir Road, Laxmi Chowk and its surroundings where the traffic was diverted from The Mall due to the sit-in.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1373527/trouble-shifts-from-abbasi-govt-to-shahbaz-administration
 
I wanted to create a detailed thread on this topic with various clips and articles from Punjab government. It is more than clear now and for the first time in many years this was confirmed by quite a few PMLN leaders themselves. So much for fauj trying to attack our fragile democracy.

I will try to list everything i have heard so far on different talkshows so please correct me i am wrong:

1 - Shahbaz Sharif on 4 October 2017 (one month before dharna) had said that "The Khatm e nabuwat issue raised in parliament is very important and i demand Nawaz Sharif to sack the minister responsible for the amendment. (Nusrat Javed openly said that "Ye aag Shahbaz Sharif ki lagai hui hai").

2 - Malik Ahmed Khan (Punjab government minister) accused his own PMLN federal government of creating this mess. He openly admitted in Shahzaib Khanzada show that none of the other party members or Punjab government is responsible for this and blamed PMLN FEDERAL government.

3 - Rana Sanaullah in different shows admitted that dharna people had met Punjab government PRIOR to going to Islamabad and they were allowed to go as Punjab government completely agreed to their demands. Our agreement was that they will go to Islamabad and return after few days and we thought they will come back before 12th Rabi ul Awwal.

4 - It is more than clear that this amendment was made due to mysterious reasons that no one can explain. If this was made as a matter of principle that "Enough is enough, we won't tolerate such laws" then at least some people will stand behind them but no one has explained a word why this was done.

5 - Interior minister Ahsan Iqbal had threatened of clearing dharna within 3 hours but did he also think about thousands of people that will come out in rest of Pakistan? His performance was so pathetic that he refused to admit it was his decision even though he was the one who gave green signal for attack and even called Army.

I have at least half a dozen other examples and i am quoting government friendly or neutral sources. Watch Nusrat Javed show, Shahzaib Khanzada show and Geo Report Card on 27 & 28 November to understand how this dharna was totally backed by PMLN's Punjab government and Shahbaz Sharif as they agreed with their demands.

Now you can question Army's role in this and question why Rs1000 given out and why didn't they attack protesters. Their view is some poor people had requested money to go back after being arrested as their leaders had left them behind and attack wasn't launched because this could have triggered further unrest as average people had come out on streets to support Mullah Khadim.

You can agree/disagree on Army's response but some people were blaming Army for the entire drama when they had nothing to do with initial controversy and they had been called by government but where does majority of responsibility lies?

Where are people blaming Army for sending Mullah Khadim to Islamabad?

Isn't this enough that PMLN government for the first time is openly blaming their own party leaders for all this mess?? But yes blame it on Army and call this conspiracy to derail democracy!
 
[MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] Let's see if PMLN will learn their lesson not to use religion for politics. Heavy majority of PMLN supporter i have come across strongly believe Imran Khan is yahoodi agent and he is trying to destabilize Pakistan.
 
Just wish Imran Khan becomes PM so all our problems instantly go away.
 
[MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] Let's see if PMLN will learn their lesson not to use religion for politics. Heavy majority of PMLN supporter i have come across strongly believe Imran Khan is yahoodi agent and he is trying to destabilize Pakistan.

True and just checked latest tweets of Khawaja Saad to get an idea of their mindset.
 
Just wish Imran Khan becomes PM so all our problems instantly go away.

Even if Quaid e Azam comes back, problems won't instantly go away but at least start going in the right direction and surely we aren't going heading in right direction under Nawaz, Zardari, Maulana Fazlu
 
As i said in many threads that this Tehreek e labbaik is not a religious ideology or movement. Mullah Khadim is seeing an opportunity (provided to him on plate by PMLN) to improve his political position and he took full advantage of that.

Before they even start, they already have another group refusing to end dharna in Lahore and have their own set of demands and they want resignation of Rana Sanaullah. It's quite clear that this Mullah Jalali felt Khadim took all the limelight so he wants another resignation as a trophy to show to his supporters.

This is just politics but religion is used as a tool by bunch of jahils!
 
Or this is a delibrate attempt by a few in power who want to make the Barelvi sect stronger to counter the growing influence of Wahabi/Deobandi in the country.

I would not be surprised if TLY gets more seats than JI and JUI in 2018...It seems as a masterstroke to split the religious votebank
Since this is a sect that is strictly against Taliban and supports Army so Army thought it reasonable enough to not take action against them.
 
Even if Quaid e Azam comes back, problems won't instantly go away but at least start going in the right direction and surely we aren't going heading in right direction under Nawaz, Zardari, Maulana Fazlu

Yes but things are improving
terrorism is on the decline.
Film industry is reviving
Literacy rate is improving
Economy is at its best since 2006
Parties like PPP and PMLN are getting wiped out slowly..

Religion is an extremely sensitive part in the subcontinent even in secular countries like India...while this act might seem a surrender it is nowhere near to the chaos that occured in 1953 anti Ahmadi riots where martial law had to be imposed.


Do not lose faith.
 
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