Today's game proves Amir, Junaid and Hasan are the best fast bowlers we have right now

[msb314]

Great bowling by all 3 and they were all economical.

Amir took an early wicket and consistently bowled 140+ during his overs. Junaid bowled a bit slower in the mid-130's but was economical and should have taken 3 wickets.

Hassan, as always, was economical and attacking.

I think these 3 are the best fast bowlers we have in our setup right now.

Hopefully no more Rahat, Sohail or Irfan again...

 

[Pete Rose]

I think Hasan is due for a promotion to the test team.

 

[Madplayer]

How does it prove that?

How do u know a sadaf hussain or a tabish khan isnt as good as them?

 

[boomboom6]

Yup. Perfect trio for LOIs. Amir & Junaid should also be in test matches. Now if we can get Asif back.

Asif-Amir-Junaid in tests would be

 

[160KPH]

Imad Wasim is a big part of their success. He keeps it so tight from one end.

In AUS in Odis
Imad Wasim : 20-0-72-4
Avg: 18
Eco: 3.6

Last year Ashwin + Jadeja
67-0-385-5
Avg: 77
Eco: 5.74
Santner
28-0-130-3
Avg: 43.3

 

[boomboom6]

How does it prove that?

How do u know a sadaf hussain or a tabish khan isnt as good as them?

Sadaf & Tabish should replace Rahat & Imran. Sohail's still has a spot due to his batting utility.

 

[Pakistanian]

How does it prove that?

How do u know a sadaf hussain or a tabish khan isnt as good as them?

Or Amad Butt & Mir Hamza

 

[msb314]

How does it prove that?

How do u know a sadaf hussain or a tabish khan isnt as good as them?

I was talking about all the bowlers who have played internationally so far.

 

[msb314]

I think Hasan is due for a promotion to the test team.

Anyone would be a promotion over Rahat and Sohail.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Irfan(rightie) would be my third seamer with Amir and Hasan.

 

[Speedster777]

Amir
Asif
Junaid
Imad
Hassan

That should be our bowling squad in both Tests and LOIs. Rahat, Sohail , Imran and Wahab should be kicked out.

 

[ali2220]

Today's game proves that Wahab should have no place in our ODteam.

 

[Pete Rose]

Anyone would be a promotion over Rahat and Sohail.

I actually like Hasaa quite a lot. Seems like he has the knack for taking wickets. Its not all gimmicky nathan bracken/faulkner slower ball after slower ball. He has good pace. Bowls the yorker and short ball as well.

 

[Hawkeye]

They reaped the benefits of how well the spinners strangled Aus.

Won't happen in every match -- Junaid is prone to getting carted, and it was his first match.

 

[Bilal7]

I told you guys, didn't I? Throw out mediocre bowlers like Sohail, Rahat and Imran and bring the likes of Junaid back.

A pace battery of Amir, Junaid, Irfan, Riaz and Hassan should be part of our Champions Trophy squad. Ideally want two of Amir, Junaid and Hassan opening and one of Irfan or Riaz coming first change.

 

[msb314]

I told you guys, didn't I? Throw out mediocre bowlers like Sohail, Rahat and Imran and bring the likes of Junaid back.

A pace battery of Amir, Junaid, Irfan, Riaz and Hassan should be part of our Champions Trophy squad. Ideally want two of Amir, Junaid and Hassan opening and one of Irfan or Riaz coming first change.

Irfan is garbage too - please discard him along with Rahat and Sohail.

 

[Sarfarazian92]

Wahab is garbage, please limit him to test cricket.

 

[MMHS]

NO - it actually tells that these 3 are better than stability model. There could be better prospect, who are not getting opportunity.

 

[Black Zero]

I like wahab, but he is too erratic that it's counter productive.

Hassan has great line and length so I expect him to be successful.
Overall good bowling attack.

 

[Statsman]

I told you guys, didn't I? Throw out mediocre bowlers like Sohail, Rahat and Imran and bring the likes of Junaid back.

A pace battery of Amir, Junaid, Irfan, Riaz and Hassan should be part of our Champions Trophy squad. Ideally want two of Amir, Junaid and Hassan opening and one of Irfan or Riaz coming first change.

While he is your best test bowler, Riaz has been awful in ODIs. Why would you have him in the team? Only for pace? Rather go with the medium pace of JK, Hassan et al.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

We could've potentially had the two Irfan's and Amir bowling for us against Australia. Man that would've been a sight.

 

[yasir]

I personally want three 140k quality quicks or Asif level seamer, otherwise keep looking...

Junaid has lost lot of pace, not going to work for test level. Too early for Odi as well, we need to see how this series goes first.

Hasan can play role of Razaq or Max Azhar Mahmood, he has long way to go to be test seamer.

Right now our test seamers are horrible baring Amir. Pakistan really need to develop tall and fast bowlers, we cannot go up the ladder without that.

 

[JibranAnsari]

1 game does not prove anything.

 

[Speedster1]

Irfan is garbage too - please discard him along with Rahat and Sohail.

Wahab needs to go as well too erratic for ODIS.

Mir Hamza or someone else should be in squad rather than the previous tried and tested

 

[Cricketfan no 1]

I actually like Hasaa quite a lot. Seems like he has the knack for taking wickets. Its not all gimmicky nathan bracken/faulkner slower ball after slower ball. He has good pace. Bowls the yorker and short ball as well.

atleast don't compare him with bracken, he was a class bowler on which Australia relied and even rose up to no 1

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Imad Wasim is a big part of their success. He keeps it so tight from one end.

In AUS in Odis
Imad Wasim : 20-0-72-4
Avg: 18
Eco: 3.6

Last year Ashwin + Jadeja
67-0-385-5
Avg: 77
Eco: 5.74
Santner
28-0-130-3
Avg: 43.3

Imad is developing into a gun performer but don't think you can compare stats like this. Some of the prev Aus matches were played on super pattas where even 330 wasn't enough.

In this series, every spinner has a low economy and good average.

In Aus, Imad and co have way better stats than other spinners.

In Eng, the opposite is true where Imad averages 36 and those 2 average 20-25.

 

[joly]

Even Barindar Sran took 3 wickets in these wickets now Amir will be hailed as an ATG and will continue playing for 12 more years )

 

[JibranAnsari]

NO - it actually tells that these 3 are better than stability model. There could be better prospect, who are not getting opportunity.

Thats quite true , unless and until we give chances to the other guys we can not rate them as the best.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Did junaid consistently swing the new ball both ways as some one said?

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Imad is developing into a gun performer but don't think you can compare stats like this. Some of the prev Aus matches were played on super pattas where even 330 wasn't enough.

In this series, every spinner has a low economy and good average.

In Aus, Imad and co have way better stats than other spinners.

In Eng, the opposite is true where Imad averages 36 and those 2 average 20-25.

They are not comparable bowlers. Pakistanis love to make unnecessary comparisons with Indians. Stats will never show how differently they operate on the field and what they mean to their team.

 

[Statsman]

Even Barindar Sran took 3 wickets in these wickets now Amir will be hailed as an ATG and will continue playing for 12 more years )

Amir bowled very well.

 

[Pete Rose]

atleast don't compare him with bracken, he was a class bowler on which Australia relied and even rose up to no 1

Bracken was a joke. And yes you can add a punchline to that joke by giving more perspective

 

[Pete Rose]

Hasan and aamir are carrying from the last odi. Wahab is rubbish. Junaid, we'll see how he pulls up for the rest of the series

 

[kingusama92]

1 game and such a bold claim?

These guys could easily get carted next game.

 

[160KPH]

Imad is developing into a gun performer but don't think you can compare stats like this. Some of the prev Aus matches were played on super pattas where even 330 wasn't enough.

In this series, every spinner has a low economy and good average.

In Aus, Imad and co have way better stats than other spinners.

In Eng, the opposite is true where Imad averages 36 and those 2 average 20-25.

I don't mean to make comparisons in terms of bowling, Ashwin and Jadeja are on another level. The difference between us being able to contain Australia and India conceding more runs has been the middle over bowling, partially by Imad.

They are not comparable bowlers. Pakistanis love to make unnecessary comparisons with Indians. Stats will never show how differently they operate on the field and what they mean to their team.

Who is saying that any of the Indian players are bad? I'm simply stating that we've restricted them to low scores due to spinners containing them in the middle overs.

 

[Cricketfan no 1]

Bracken was a joke. And yes you can add a punchline to that joke by giving more perspective

yeah such a joke that got regular in star studded Australia team abd troubled any top order batsmen
unfortuate career due to injuries

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I don't mean to make comparisons in terms of bowling, Ashwin and Jadeja are on another level. The difference between us being able to contain Australia and India conceding more runs has been the middle over bowling, partially by Imad.

Who is saying that any of the Indian players are bad? I'm simply stating that we've restricted them to low scores due to spinners containing them in the middle overs.

Imad's a much more tighter bowler than Ashwin atleast. Impeccable lines. He was economical in England too when he played against an explosive lineup.

They are not comparable bowlers. Pakistanis love to make unnecessary comparisons with Indians. Stats will never show how differently they operate on the field and what they mean to their team.

I am intrigued. Why you feel that way?

I feel Imad's bowling style is more closer to Jaddu except that he doesn't spin it away usually (but gets the in-drift).

 

[Arham_PakFan]

NO - it actually tells that these 3 are better than stability model. There could be better prospect, who are not getting opportunity.

I agree.

They bowled really well today,along with Imad.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Suddenly Junaid Khan should be in all the teams after performing in one match? Few days ago people were calling him a trundler.

 

[Square Drive]

Hopefully.

Good comeback by Junaid so far.

 

[Tera Gawaandi]

Wahab is rubbish in all formats.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Suddenly Junaid Khan should be in all the teams after performing in one match? Few days ago people were calling him a trundler.

Junaid won't last imho.

 

[waleed88]

Suddenly Junaid Khan should be in all the teams after performing in one match? Few days ago people were calling him a trundler.

That brigade is still there... they're waiting for a bad performance

 

[Shafi]

I think Hasan is due for a promotion to the test team.

Yes to destroy his career!!! No player should play more than 2 formats

 

[LordJames]

Hopefully.

Good comeback by Junaid so far.

Action is suspect and ripe to be called for chucking.

 

[Pete Rose]

Yes to destroy his career!!! No player should play more than 2 formats

Nonsense

 

[joly]

Imad Wasim is impressive

 

[Zak_Fan]

One match is never a proof. However, it does add weight to such claims.

 

[Markhor]

Junaid still needs to prove himself as whilst he had a good BPL - his domestic showings have been poor, averaging over 50 in the recent departmental one day cup.

But happy to give him the rest of the series. Wahab has bowled a lot recently and shouldn't be playing ODIs anyway.

 

[Adil_94]

lets see how Junaid goes in the rest of the series before we jump to conclusions but was a promising return today.

 

[Idrees1990]

Irfan is garbage too - please discard him along with Rahat and Sohail.

How is he garbage? Other than his fitness which I blame PCB, he is an excellent new wicket taking option especially on these bouncy pitches. He can bowl over 140k with some lethal bounce. Blind hate is just annoying.

 

[Idrees1990]

Wahab is garbage, please limit him to test cricket.

Correction: only limit him to test matches where wickets are fast. That's it.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

After one game? seriously?

Amir has proved to be good in ODI's in the last year. Hasan looks good, but Junaid just has played one game after his come back

We shall see after the serie ends.

 

[Idrees1990]

Did junaid consistently swing the new ball both ways as some one said?

I don't think there was much swing today. He was hitting the seam hard at the right line/lenght which gave him 2 wicket with ball nipping, almost a third one too

 

[moghul]

Still not impressed with Hasan, he doesn't have pace and height required to be successful at international level. He can't do anything about height but can increase his pace with hard work. Hs a good run up and action.

 

[Idrees1990]

After one game? seriously?

Amir has proved to be good in ODI's in the last year. Hasan looks good, but Junaid just has played one game after his come back

We shall see after the serie ends.

He just need to get his pace up to 140+ kph. He was bowling good line and lenght otherwise

 

[Idrees1990]

Wahab is rubbish in all formats.

Actually, he could be really effective on fast/bouncy pitches tests. He just needs to correct his line which is way off

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

He just need to get his pace up to 140+ kph. He was bowling good line and lenght otherwise

Will only be satisfied if he keeps this up for a longer period. Let's see what he does at the WACA which is usually a pacer's paradise.

 

[Abid Z]

Irfan is fantastic but just fitness is a bit suspect.

Today's pitch was a bit slow for an MCG pitch and junaid bowling at 130 kph was just right for it. Let's wait and see how he goes in other matches. I'd like to see him swinging it both ways more consistently, and amir for that matter.

Until they both do this more often unfortunately Rahat will still be in contention

 

[SARJ_BD]

Sadaf & Tabish should replace Rahat & Imran. Sohail's still has a spot due to his batting utility.

Recent performance of Sadaf is not good, correct me if I am wrong.
Tabish is littke old, he was supposed to be selected 5/6 years ago.

If performance counts, Mohammad Abbas should be selected

 

[aloo paratha]

They reaped the benefits of how well the spinners strangled Aus.

Won't happen in every match -- Junaid is prone to getting carted, and it was his first match.

The pacers took the first 4 wickets, 3 of which were before the spinners even came on...

 

[Kaka4pope]

Hasan Amir Junaid all have the attributes we like to see in Pak quicks, granted none are express pace BUT the skill is great to see..

And yes, provided all stay fit and healthy, the three need to be thought of of as our pace attack for the Windies tests, together with Yassir and Imad as spin options.

Shout out to MoHa's captaincy, brought some great energy welldone Rizwan, smart hands today and Sharjeel, lovely catch, wasn't an easy one...

 

[Syed1]

We could've potentially had the two Irfan's and Amir bowling for us against Australia. Man that would've been a sight.

One Irfan has just had a personal tradegy and has atrocious fitness.

The other Irfan has hardly played half a season and he is already a better bowler than a proven domestic AND international performer like Junaid?

 

[Rana]

The best thing about them is they are all very young and can be a regular trio for a long time to come

 

[Saj]

Nice balance to the attack. A mixture of attack and defence and then complimented by the 3 all-rounders, Malik, Imad and Hafeez.

 

[mz123]

Nice balance to the attack. A mixture of attack and defence and then complimented by the 3 all-rounders, Malik, Imad and Hafeez.

one of the best attacks in the world right now ?

 

[moghul]

Only slightly weaker link for me is Hasan for his lack of pace. He has a lovely run up and rhythm and is very athletic and if he could add couple of yards of pace, he could be be handful otherwise will not last long at international level.

 

[mz123]

Only slightly weaker link for me is Hasan for his lack of pace. He has a lovely run up and rhythm and is very athletic and if he could add couple of yards of pace, he could be be handful otherwise will not last long at international level.

pace is not everything....

 

[Ellipsism]

I personally want three 140k quality quicks or Asif level seamer, otherwise keep looking...

Junaid has lost lot of pace, not going to work for test level. Too early for Odi as well, we need to see how this series goes first.

Hasan can play role of Razaq or Max Azhar Mahmood, he has long way to go to be test seamer.

Right now our test seamers are horrible baring Amir. Pakistan really need to develop tall and fast bowlers, we cannot go up the ladder without that.

I know a bowler who is 6'4 and can bowl up and around 140 kph.

Mohammad Irfan (Lahore Qalandars)

Here is his personal YouTube channel:
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCIS4OyVicp5ZCCw3Qh5Zx_w

 

[Syed1]

I know a bowler who is 6'4 and can bowl up and around 140 kph.

Mohammad Irfan (Lahore Qalandars)

Here is his personal YouTube channel:
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCIS4OyVicp5ZCCw3Qh5Zx_w

Sir how many domestic matches he has played and how many wickets he has in those matches.

PP fantasy is always some unknown bolwer who will magically be better than the ones in the squad.

You haven't been on PP long enough, but this same PP was the all the rage about the likes of Asad Ali and Mir Hamza, and soon after their reality was revealed and where are they now???

More than likely that this Muhammad Irfan will be another false dawn like the hundreds before him.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Hassan is world class. He will become the next Rana Naved.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

im glad junaid got the chance ahead of raahat and wahab...otherwise would have been like IMRAN KHAN JR who was selected in all test squads but get only 2 games across 4 series...

 

[Ellipsism]

Sir how many domestic matches he has played and how many wickets he has in those matches.

PP fantasy is always some unknown bolwer who will magically be better than the ones in the squad.

You haven't been on PP long enough, but this same PP was the all the rage about the likes of Asad Ali and Mir Hamza, and soon after their reality was revealed and where are they now???

More than likely that this Muhammad Irfan will be another false dawn like the hundreds before him.

He's a much better bowler than Rahat, Imran and Wahab.

Sydney Thunder have themselves said they would have signed him off not for the squad already being finalised.

Nick Cummins (Director of Sydney Thunder) when asked whom the most impressive representative of the Lahore Qalandars development squad was, he answered Irfan and Rabbani.

He's been picked for Lahore Qalandars albiet a supplementary player and considering he's only played a handful of domestic games, the kid must have something to have gotten in.

 

[Syed1]

He's a much better bowler than Rahat, Imran and Wahab.

Sydney Thunder have themselves said they would have signed him off not for the squad already being finalised.

Nick Cummins (Director of Sydney Thunder) when asked whom the most impressive representative of the Lahore Qalandars development squad was, he answered Irfan and Rabbani.

He's been picked for Lahore Qalandars albiet a supplementary player and considering he's only played a handful of domestic games, the kid must have something to have gotten in.

So all that Irfan has going for him is that some bloke in the Sydney Thunders management praised him. Mashallah.

 

[Ellipsism]

So all that Irfan has going for him is that some bloke in the Sydney Thunders management praised him. Mashallah.

Yes, conveniently ignore the fact that he got picked for LQ, or the fact that the Thunder were willing to sign him.

 

[New Yorker]

Great bowling by all 3 and they were all economical.

Amir took an early wicket and consistently bowled 140+ during his overs. Junaid bowled a bit slower in the mid-130's but was economical and should have taken 3 wickets.

Hassan, as always, was economical and attacking.

I think these 3 are the best fast bowlers we have in our setup right now.

Hopefully no more Rahat, Sohail or Irfan again...

Hopefully no more Rahat, Irfan, Wahab.

But this does not mean you stop rotating in players from the domestics.

 

[New Yorker]

Recent performance of Sadaf is not good, correct me if I am wrong.
Tabish is littke old, he was supposed to be selected 5/6 years ago.

If performance counts, Mohammad Abbas should be selected

On recent performance of Junaid is not good.

Sadaf has not been as good as in the past no.

But question is if he has not done enough in past years to warrant a run.

 

[Kaka4pope]

Please do not abandon this pace trio...

3rd ODI didn't go as well but lets not do anything drastic and disrupt the seam bowling attack of Hasan, Amir and Junaid, who are 22, 24 and 27 respectively.

Appreciate that none are express pace but given the lack of an Akhtar or even an erratic young gun (like Sami was), these 3 still have enough pace between them, and in my opinion, lots of skill.

In short, I'm excited watching any of the three bowl...

 

[SM1989]

I think Junaid should be benched. He cost us the game today with his no-ball.

 

[mz123]

I think Junaid should be benched. He cost us the game today with his no-ball.

wahab would even have created any chances, no balls are part of the game and junaid was unlucky. Hopefully we come back hard in the following games