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indian friend lol thats a nice one :P

yes i've long been a fan of taufeeq - amazed at his treatment.
 
Every website is stuck on 6.5 overs, wat the hell is going on?!??!?!??!?

Anyone got any friends or family at the ground? Ring them up plz and get an update.
 
Muyazzim Khan said:
Me and you both agree about this player my indian friend. I remember you posted something on him when he made a 100 in a domestic game. Plus he is a good slipper.


We need that slipper thing very badly coz our slippers had very slippery hands at Lords and we can not afford to slip again so we need a good slipped who wont have aslippery hands :P
 
Taufeeq gone.

So all the people who seriously think he will be any better than Imy or Salman can shut it.
 
Hash said:
Taufeeq gone.

So all the people who seriously think he will be any better than Imy or Salman can shut it.

He made 21 more runs than both of them put together, what if England won the next test by 21 runs without Taufeeq playing :P
 
This is all we have:

A bunch of middle order batsmen. Nobody with tight enough technique and composure to open the innings for us in any sorts of trying conditions (swing/seam/uneven bounce/pressure). Unfortunate! But its very much the truth.
 
whyhkk said:
well he did score more runs than both of them combined didn't he?

and they'll score more runs than him when it matters.
 
Oh come on its his first game in how many months? and he scores 21, better than Butt, Give Tofee time to atleast get used to the light and stuff. Better than Butt who I think has stopped thinking about his game , I expected more from him
 
GamBiTT said:
This is all we have:

A bunch of middle order batsmen. Nobody with tight enough technique and composure to open the innings for us in any sorts of trying conditions (swing/seam/uneven bounce/pressure). Unfortunate! But its very much the truth.

What you have is 2 amazing players in your batting order who usually play well, along with a lot of players that are untrustworthy which means that it is harder to predict how they are going to perform - but how is that different to most teams?

India - Dravid and Sehwag + crap
England - Trescothick and Pietersen + crap
WI - Sarwan and Lara + crap
SL - Sangakarra and Jayawardene + crap

etc. The only team that doesnt suffer this problem is Australia, they are clearly the no.1 team for a reason.
 
Promising start from taufeeq there, butt fans need to realise he has been out form for months now and he didnt even perform in domestic cricket recently so its time for taufeeq and farhat to be given the opportunity they deserve and they will inshallah perform like they did last time.
 
for all we know butt may continue to loose his wicket cheaply and is praying to be dropped by the team...that's how low his confidence seems to me...where as taufeeq umar has a better chance of scoring some runs....they may be very similar but at the moment taufeeq should be given a chance. looking at the inconsistency with the top order it will only a matter of time before Butt is back in action, that is if he has improved both mentally and physically. Give Butt a break, i know he is begging for it deep down inside.
 
We should have our own version of Pop Idol to find the new openers.
Maybe we could call it Drop Idol - as after a few games that's what will happen to them.
Anyway next potential contestant is in - step forward a Mr Faisal Iqbal from Karachi.
 
Amoeba said:
We should have our own version of Pop Idol to find the new openers.
Maybe we could call it Drop Idol - as after a few games that's what will happen to them.
Anyway next potential contestant is in - step forward a Mr Faisal Iqbal from Karachi.


not a bad choice considering...he seems to value his wicket. The rate he is batting at. :13:
 
Whippy squash said:
He made 21 more runs than both of them put together, what if England won the next test by 21 runs without Taufeeq playing :P
Farhat made 32 in the 1st innings at Lords
 
97-3 (25 overs)

Iqbal - 7 of 38 balls
MYK - 50 of 66 balls
 
Pretty poor display from pakistan. No bowlers really shone with ball in hand and our opening pair failed again!

we need better responses from our players!
 
Amjid Javed said:
Pretty poor display from pakistan. No bowlers really shone with ball in hand and our opening pair failed again!

we need better responses from our players!

i am really getting worried to see our bowling. Nazir wasn't impressive either
 
sehsan said:
i am really getting worried to see our bowling. Nazir wasn't impressive either

if our bowlers continue to bowl poorly we will suffer as i cant see our batsmen keep bailing us out inns afta inns.

The lack of decent start is a worry aswell!
 
Not bad going by Taufeeq. Good for him that he scored 28. As of right now he will certainly play. But if he does, he shoud come in for Butt, and stay there for a year or so.
 
AmitMishra bowls wrongun said:
indian friend lol thats a nice one :P

yes i've long been a fan of taufeeq - amazed at his treatment.

ur catching on with the admiration of taufeeq umar as test opener, im a huge fan of the guy, he deserves to be our test opener.
 
I just realized something. The Northants are brilliant. They know the Pakistani bowling is struggling, so they declare extremely early on purpose!

THink about, why would anyone ever declare on 269/3!!!, even if it is a 4 day match. They see some of the Pak bowlers getting into the groove, and they declare.
 
Xzianghow© said:
I just realized something. The Northants are brilliant. They know the Pakistani bowling is struggling, so they declare extremely early on purpose!

THink about, why would anyone ever declare on 269/3!!!, even if it is a 4 day match. They see some of the Pak bowlers getting into the groove, and they declare.

Declaring at 269/3 was really a weird move! They didn't even let Sourav bat!
 
Amjid Javed said:
if our bowlers continue to bowl poorly we will suffer as i cant see our batsmen keep bailing us out inns afta inns.

The lack of decent start is a worry aswell!

yes it is a worry as well but atleast we are used to of it. But bowling resources makes me really worry.
 
Interesting declaration by the Northants. Our 3rd string attack was getting whacked all over the park by Peters and co. Samiullah, according to his bowling figures, was decent. Economy rate of 4.11 and 2 wickets. Better than Shahid Nazir and Arshad Khan, I believe.

I may have missed something guys, but how are Arshad and Jannisar playing for Pakistan in this match? They werent in the squad as far as I remember :|
 
Very well played by Tauffeq. He should be in for OT. But, knowing Pak they won't pick him. Even though he never got a big score at least he never got out in the 1st over!
 
INZItheman said:
Very well played by Tauffeq. He should be in for OT. But, knowing Pak they won't pick him. Even though he never got a big score at least he never got out in the 1st over!

:20:

He should be playing at OT after scoring 29?
 
INZItheman said:
Very well played by Tauffeq. He should be in for OT. But, knowing Pak they won't pick him. Even though he never got a big score at least he never got out in the 1st over!

So 29 counts as a success for Taufeeq?
 
UsmanCHADDA said:
So 29 counts as a success for Taufeeq?

Nobody said it was a success. You are making that out. It was much better than Butt and Farhat is all i'm saying. Hence, he deserves a chance!
 
UsmanCHADDA said:
I would rather see Sami opening for us than Taufeeq Umar!

Tell him to go and learn to open the bowling first. I would rather open with Kaneria then those other 2 jokers! lol
 
Imy and Salman will prove the doubters wrong.....of that I have no doubt.

The biggest criticism of past Pakistani teams has been constant chopping and changing, no continuity.

That is why I believe these two should open for all four tests and they should be told that by Bob. Then they can play without pressure and for Pakistan (not for their places in the team). Dropping an opening pair because of one bad test is not the right thing to do. Knee jerk reactions are not required right now and will do more harm than good.

But seriously Faisal Iqbal opening? :))) :)))
 
Hash said:
Imy and Salman will prove the doubters wrong.....of that I have no doubt.

The biggest criticism of past Pakistani teams has been constant chopping and changing, no continuity.

That is why I believe these two should open for all four tests and they should be told that by Bob. Then they can play without pressure and for Pakistan (not for their places in the team). Dropping an opening pair because of one bad test is not the right thing to do. Knee jerk reactions are not required right now and will do more harm than good.

But seriously Faisal Iqbal opening? :))) :)))

lol! ppl who understand cricket know Faisal literally opened in the Lords 2nd innings when Butt was gone 1st ball. Did he not? He proved much better than these farcical "openers" we have.

These two are simply a waste of space!
 
was disappointed taufeeq got out for 29 but at least he was positive.
this shows his confidence is high and we all know taufeeq is a confidence player.
 
Hash said:
Imy and Salman will prove the doubters wrong.....of that I have no doubt.

The biggest criticism of past Pakistani teams has been constant chopping and changing, no continuity.

That is why I believe these two should open for all four tests and they should be told that by Bob. Then they can play without pressure and for Pakistan (not for their places in the team). Dropping an opening pair because of one bad test is not the right thing to do. Knee jerk reactions are not required right now and will do more harm than good.

But seriously Faisal Iqbal opening?
:))) :)))

If Pak are doing funnier things like making Malik open and Akmal then i don't see why this guy should not be given a go?
 
AmitMishra bowls wrongun said:
was disappointed taufeeq got out for 29 but at least he was positive.
this shows his confidence is high and we all know taufeeq is a confidence player.
Hear Hear

but why do Pakistani batsman insist on batting at ODI pace in a three day/Test match...

Have some patience...stay at the wicket - you're there to see off the new ball for the middle order...
 
Jannisar Khan was supposed to be the next Abdul Razzaq (when he was good that is).

How is his bowling for anyone who saw the match/knows anything about him?
 
zaf1986 said:
Hear Hear

but why do Pakistani batsman insist on batting at ODI pace in a three day/Test match...

Have some patience...stay at the wicket - you're there to see off the new ball for the middle order...

Good Point :19:

I think that is one of the main downside of the openers
 
INZItheman said:
lol! ppl who understand cricket know Faisal literally opened in the Lords 2nd innings when Butt was gone 1st ball. Did he not? He proved much better than these farcical "openers" we have.

These two are simply a waste of space!

The only problem is that Faisal Iqbal could have gotten out atleast 6-7 times during his stay at the wicket. He edged the ball to Geraint Jones 3 times but for some strange reason nobody appealed. He missed the ball countless times, and he was leaving his legstump exposed on numerous occasions.

Relax. Butt and Farhat will come good, that was only the First Test.
 
Easa said:
The only problem is that Faisal Iqbal could have gotten out atleast 6-7 times during his stay at the wicket. He edged the ball to Geraint Jones 3 times but for some strange reason nobody appealed. He missed the ball countless times, and he was leaving his legstump exposed on numerous occasions.

Relax. Butt and Farhat will come good, that was only the First Test.

If that was the case then we should keep him. He could become Pak's lucky trumph card! :D By the way he was out 2 times because the supposed edge botham was talking about of monty's bowling was proved by the snikometer to be no edge.
 
I think we should try Butt and Farhat for the whole series, BUT i cant see this happening so I'd go with Faisal and Farhat to open
 
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