Tyson Fury knocks out Dillian Whyte in 6th round to retain WBC heavyweight title at Wembley

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Tyson Fury weighed in less than a stone heavier than opponent Dillian Whyte for the huge all-British heavyweight title fight in front of over 94,000 spectators at Wembley Stadium on Saturday.

The 33-year-old 'Gypsy King' puts his WBC belt on the line against Brit rival and top-ranked contender Whyte, who has been waiting years for his shot at a world title.

Fury was more than 12lbs lighter than the career-high 277lbs he weighed the day before knocking out Deontay Wilder in the 11th round of an epic trilogy fight in Las Vegas last October at 264.8lbs.

Whyte, meanwhile, scaled 253lbs 4oz, 6lbs heavier than his rematch victory against Alexander Povetkin last March.

Fury and Whyte played the role of peacemakers after tensions rose and threatened to boil over between the fighters' entourages on Thursday, but everything ran smoothly during the weigh-in with both fighters complimentary towards each other, even swapping caps during the staredown.

"I'm so happy to be back here (UK), fighting at Wembley Stadium, and you all (fans) made it happen," Fury told BT Sport. "Big shout out to Dillian Whyte and his team, proper professional men.

"We're going to put on a show, it's going to be a war - don't worry about that."

When asked about the significance of his weight, Whyte said: "Nothing, some fights are different. Fighting a bigger guy, a much heavier guy than me.

"We're ready to go to war, trust me. I'm not worried about what he's doing."

Fury will be making a second defence of the title he won in February 2020, ending Wilder's reign as WBC heavyweight world champion.

He has an unbeaten record of 31 wins and a draw, with 22 knockouts, while Whyte has 28 victories with 19 knockouts and two defeats.

Lennox Lewis is expecting "a great fight"

The former world heavyweight champion said: "They're ready. All the talk and everything is over. They just want to get in the ring and Tyson feels good, you can tell. Dillian feels good, they're both up there dancing, so we're up for a good fight.

"It's like two warriors. Eat and sleep together, but they're fighting to hurt each other.

"The prediction is it's going to be a great fight. There are going to be a lot of people in the stands and it's going to be electrifying."

Mikaela Mayer: Fury is going to entertain us

"The weigh-in, the nerves sort of go away for me. The body is depleted, I've been dehydrated to make the weight, so I'm a little grumpy and ready to get this over with, so I don't really have a lot of nerves going into weigh-ins," said the WBO and IBF Super-Featherweight Champion.

"This is a little different here. Tyson has so many people here and he's probably not a grumpy. He's going to do what he does best and entertain us."

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[KingKhanWC]

Great for TV having this fight at Wembley but unless you have ring side seats, you wont see much from the stands.

Good weight for Fury, he doesnt need to be too heavy.

Whyte has a good punchers chance, decent power but Fury is strong favourite here. His height, size, jab and inside game will be too much for Whyte imo

My prediction - Fury on points by a big margin.

 

[shaz619]

Great for TV having this fight at Wembley but unless you have ring side seats, you wont see much from the stands.

Good weight for Fury, he doesnt need to be too heavy.

Whyte has a good punchers chance, decent power but Fury is strong favourite here. His height, size, jab and inside game will be too much for Whyte imo

My prediction - Fury on points by a big margin.

The last fight against Wilder must have been very taxing both physically and mentally due to the personal issues out the ring with his new born, the camp was inconsistent and he didn’t get the time to grind, it showed in his condition and there was word he carried a shoulder injury which might partly explain Fury’s tactics to work on the inside more, he is use to carrying a lot of weight since he turned pro and the conditioning from those deep 10-12 rounders help his powers of recovery because that was a pretty frantic pace and big recipe for disaster. Wonder if that will play a part in this fight given the wars Tyson has been in and using the R word in the build up, I feel he should call it a day but in camp you shouldn’t use the R word imo but Tyson is a guy who defies logic

Here it seems the camp has been good for him though and he is in great shape, not lost too much weight either and it seems to me he wants to put on a clinic. I can see him looking to box to start off with and then put on a show for the crowd. Whyte is no pushover, he hadn’t peaked when he fought AJ and when he lost to Povetkin he was dominating him, Whyte is one of the most improved HW’s in the division, he has a decent boxing IQ, great jab, have seen him improve his defence with rhe better head movement, looks to set up his shots and his biggest strength is work on the inside, he will look to cut the ring off with his pressure and set Tyson up for that looping left hook. Logic would suggest Tyson stops him in the second half of the fight but this is a classic HW styles clash and it will be a cracking fight. I’d have gone there but it’s Ramadan, you’re right though unless it’s ring side seats is it worth it? doubt it, but will be watching the PPV live that’s for sure

 

[KingKhanWC]

The last fight against Wilder must have been very taxing both physically and mentally due to the personal issues out the ring with his new born, the camp was inconsistent and he didn’t get the time to grind, it showed in his condition and there was word he carried a shoulder injury which might partly explain Fury’s tactics to work on the inside more, he is use to carrying a lot of weight since he turned pro and the conditioning from those deep 10-12 rounders help his powers of recovery because that was a pretty frantic pace and big recipe for disaster. Wonder if that will play a part in this fight given the wars Tyson has been in and using the R word in the build up, I feel he should call it a day but in camp you shouldn’t use the R word imo but Tyson is a guy who defies logic

Here it seems the camp has been good for him though and he is in great shape, not lost too much weight either and it seems to me he wants to put on a clinic. I can see him looking to box to start off with and then put on a show for the crowd. Whyte is no pushover, he hadn’t peaked when he fought AJ and when he lost to Povetkin he was dominating him, Whyte is one of the most improved HW’s in the division, he has a decent boxing IQ, great jab, have seen him improve his defence with rhe better head movement, looks to set up his shots and his biggest strength is work on the inside, he will look to cut the ring off with his pressure and set Tyson up for that looping left hook. Logic would suggest Tyson stops him in the second half of the fight but this is a classic HW styles clash and it will be a cracking fight. I’d have gone there but it’s Ramadan, you’re right though unless it’s ring side seats is it worth it? doubt it, but will be watching the PPV live that’s for sure

Ive been to Wembley a number of times to watch football, so difficult to see a fooball match from the upper stands so for those it will be near impossible to see a punches thrown.

Interesting to see how Dillians coach develops a plan to be beat Fury? Imo Whyte should attack early, suprise Tyson and not allow him to settle in to a jab & move rythm. He needs Tyson to be off his game, unsettle him and try to connect big in the first 3 rounds. Otherwise Imo Fury will hit & move for 12 rounds without getting into too much trouble.

Dillian hasnt fought for over a year. He needs to ensure there is no rust at all, this fight can move at pace early on if he is a little docile.

 

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Dillian Whyte may have been waiting more than 1,000 days for his mandatory world title shot, but head coach Xavier Miller insists the timing could not be better as his man prepares to face Tyson Fury for the WBC heavyweight championship at Wembley this Saturday.

As fight night edges closer the story of Whyte's media silence has been superseded by the narrative that both men enter following the best training camps of their respective careers.

For Whyte's trainer Miller, that means a culmination of years of technical refinement behind the scenes and vast ring experience in preparation for this very occasion.

"I think it's a case of locking ourselves away for the past couple of years in Portugal, I think it's being involved in three or four different training camps, I think it's speaking to Dillian earlier on when I got appointed as head coach and saying 'we need to improve on certain aspects of your game'," Miller told Sky Sports.

Tyson Fury and Dillian Whyte face off at Wembley ahead of their World Title fight at the weekend. Fury and Whyte remain calm whilst their respective entourages get a little too close.

"He's a tremendous fighter, a tremendous fighter.
"His ceiling is a lot higher than where it is right now and that's why I've been working so hard.

"I'm ultra confident, ultra confident."

Whyte recently cited his limited amateur experience as he explained to Sky Sports on a media call the extent of his almost 'learn on the job' development and growth as a boxer in recent years, which he says continues with every fight.

His seventh-round stoppage defeat to Anthony Joshua in 2015 had not only introduced the world to his toughness but would prove something of a catalyst for his emergence as one of the most dangerous threats on the heavyweight circuit.

Since then he has claimed standout victories over the likes of Derek Chisora, Robert Helenius, Lucas Brown and Joseph Parker, before stopping Alexander Povetkin in the fourth round of last year's rematch to finally pave his way to a title opportunity.

Tyson Fury says he and Dillian Whyte are ready to 'rock and roll' ahead of their WBC heavyweight championship fight at Wembley on Saturday night.

"I think some of it is we've just had to go back to basics," Miller continued. "I think because I spent so long building fighters from scratch, there's a format and that takes time.

"No matter how anybody wants to spin it, you don't just get a fighter in who hasn't fought for world titles yet and change things immediately.

"There are things that had to be worked on, we've taken our time and done that.

"Honestly the fight couldn't come at a better time, it's now."

Rarely, if at all, has Fury played down the threat posed by Whyte ahead of Saturday's showdown, acknowledging the likelihood of his opponent 'taking his head off' should he bring anything less than his best.

Fury hit the canvas on multiple occasions across his trilogy against Deontay Wilder, whose only fault was the inability to finish off the Gypsy King. Easier said than done.

"You don't have to be a boxing coach to see (how Whyte can hurt Fury)," Miller explained.

"If Dillian catches you clean you're dropped. The problem is you've got to keep Tyson Fury there.

"You give credit where it's due, when he has gone down he's got up. He's got a lot of heart, he wants to fight, but our job is once we've got him down to keep him down, that's our job."

Joseph Parker says Tyson Fury has looked fantastic in camp and will stop Dillian Whyte between the fifth and ninth rounds.
Miller himself, who has been working with Whyte since his win over Óscar Rivas in July 2019, admits he has been asked regularly of how much Saturday will mean to him.

The answer, for a trainer that has been instrumental in guiding amateur fighters to the pro ranks and travelled to America to expand his knowledge and spent time in multiple corners to hone his expertise, is a lot. For Whyte's camp, they feel it is their moment, their man's moment.

"I just love boxing. I've been in boxing since I was about 11/12 years old, I watch boxing every single day, I've been involved with training fighters for years and this is excitement for me," he said.

"The only time I get nervous is when it's time to get called and we started walking our way to the ring.

"This is what I've lived for, this is what I've been waiting for, this is the opportunity of a lifetime.

"We're going to do a job."

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[ElRaja]

only a stone between em, fury to box and move, whyte to try and cut him off and work the body. fury will aim to tire dillian down, hoping he lunges at him later in the fight to cover the distance and get caught on the counter.

whyte on will be aiming to explode in the first few rounds, land a few body blows and aim to slow down fury for later in the fight.

the former more likely i think, thus thinking a late round KO win for fury. when alls said and done, glad whytes getting a proper pay day, he deserves it.

 

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On Saturday night, Wembley Stadium will host one of the biggest all-British heavyweight dust-ups in history.

WBC and Ring Magazine champion Tyson Fury will look to strengthen his status as the best fighter in the division. Challenger Dillian Whyte will aim to shock the boxing world.

Hype for the clash has only really amped up over the past few days with Whyte - up until fight week - not participating in news conferences or promotional events.

The 34-year-old was aggrieved by his share of the purse, but the topic of who is earning what and the politics involved can now be put to bed, with the focus firmly on who will come out top.

Fury has won 31 bouts, with 22 knockouts, and drawn one as a professional. Whyte has won 28, with 19 stoppages, but has twice tasted defeat.

In a true tussle of the boxer versus the brawler, BBC Sport previews the blockbuster bout by speaking to both fighters, former heavyweight champions David Haye and Joseph Parker and boxing trainer Dave Coldwell.

The biggest all-British heavyweight clash in history?

Joe Bugner's narrow victory over the popular Henry Cooper over 15 gruelling rounds at Wembley Arena in 1971 was watched by millions on terrestrial television, while 26,000 fans in Cardiff witnessed champion Lennox Lewis knock out national treasure Frank Bruno in 1993.

Both bouts are solid examples of all-British heavyweight clashes which captured the imagination of the general public but, on numbers alone, Fury-Whyte can stake its claim as the biggest.

A post-war European record of 94,000 fans will fill out Wembley Stadium, while the purse bids are the highest in boxing with Queensbury promoter Frank Warren successfully bidding $41m (£30.6m) to host the fight.

"I'm ready to rock and roll," Whyte said at Thursday's media conference. "It means everything to fight in my own country and for the world title."

Fury, 33, added: "It speaks for itself. It's the highest selling British fight in the history of our sport."

Coldwell, who has been in Whyte's corner in the past, believes Fury-Whyte is a bigger draw than Lewis-Bruno.

"Bruno was a big hero back then, like Tyson Fury is now," he says. "But the Brits hadn't yet taken to Lewis at the time of that fight."

From bad blood to mutual respect

Whyte's self-imposed silence had impacted the promotion of the fight. He did not appear at last month's media conference which enabled Fury - ever the showman - to entertain reporters alone.

The challenger meanwhile kept a low profile while training out in Portugal. He landed in London on Monday and attended the pre-fight media conference on Wednesday.

After years of social media back and forth, it was expected that tempers may flare but Fury and Whyte, surprisingly, shared a great deal of mutual respect.

"He's a decent bloke. A decent fella and he's got good morals," Fury said. "I'm not going to sit here and slate the fella because I've got nothing to slate him on."

Whyte also did not dwell on any previous bad blood, saying: "He understands warrior code. He treated me with respect and I treated him with respect."

The fight has been somewhat overshadowed by Fury's links to Daniel Kinahan, who last week was among seven people hit with worldwide financial sanctions by the United States.

Fury had previously been advised by Kinahan but at the public workout insisted he has "absolutely zero" involvement with the Irishman, either in a business or advisory role and dismissed suggestions it has distracted his preparations.

"In my life I've got a massive man trying to punch my face in this week and I've got to deal with that so anything else is out of my control and nothing to do with me at all," Fury said.

Will Whyte shock the world?

Whyte is a clear underdog but, as the boxing cliche goes, it only takes one punch in heavyweight boxing; and Whyte's relentless style and vicious hooks pose danger to any opponent.

"He's a good fighter," Fury says. "A good strong solid man. He's big, small, strong, tough, game. He has good punch with good power, he's knocked out a lot of men."

While Fury is undefeated in 32 bouts, Whyte lost to Anthony Joshua in 2015 and was then knocked out by a 40-year-old Alexander Povetkin in August 2020, only to avenge his defeat by the Russian seven months later.

But Haye - a former two-weight world champion - says past results have little relevance in heavyweight boxing, referencing Lewis' losses to Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman and Joshua's shock defeat by Andy Ruiz Jr in 2019.

"Anything can happen in heavyweight boxing and time to time an anomaly happens," he says. "The way that Dillian has the best opportunity of winning is to get in close and turn it into a slugfest. I think he stops Fury on his feet late doors at some stage".

Parker - who was dropped twice before losing on points to Whyte in 2018 - is acutely aware of how tough 'The Body Snatcher' is.

"He has power in both hands and will always come game and ready," the New Zealand heavyweight says. "We haven't seen much of him so no-one knows what to expect in terms of approach and what kind of shape he's in."

Is Fury just too good?

Outside of the ring, Fury's comeback story from mental health struggles and weight gain has been well documented. Inside the squared circle, The Gypsy King is considered by many to be one of the most skilful and elusive heavyweight boxers of his generation.

Fury will fight in the United Kingdom for the first time since 2018, with his past five bouts - including the trilogy with Deontay Wilder - taking place in the United States.

Parker says although the champion has become a global superstar in recent years, he is not taking this fight lightly.

"I don't think there's any complacency in Team Fury or Tyson himself," he says. "They've put in the best work they can for the fight.

"But I believe Tyson is going to repeatedly hit him with the jab and knock him out between rounds five and nine."

Fury, modestly and perhaps a little tongue-in-cheek, plays down his own credentials.

"I've been bounced off the canvas more times than a bouncy ball," he says. "I'm not this untouchable boxer that everything thinks I might be. I'm just a normal boxing guy who has got lucky 32 times before."

Haye - who was set to face Fury in 2013 before withdrawing through injury - has been criticised by Fury's father for once again predicting a loss for the champion.

John Fury claims Haye would "pick Santa Claus" over his son and has demanded he be removed from the TV broadcast team.

In response to those comments, Haye says: "Just like he'd back his son against King Kong. I just say it like I see it.

"I thought Wladimir Klitschko was going to beat him in 2015, just like everyone did and got it wrong, and I thought Wilder all three times had the ability to knock him out, which he nearly did."

A victory for Whyte would not only stun the boxing world, but he will announce himself as one of the biggest draws in heavyweight boxing.

With a win bonus on offer and as a free agent not tied to any promoter, it will catapult him into international boxing stardom.

While Coldwell is edging towards a Fury victory, he says the hard yards Whyte has put in over the years could now pay off.

"He's chased that WBC mandatory position and while he's been mandatory for years he's taken some great fights that have added to his experience, boxing knowledge and ring general-ship," Coldwell adds.

Fellow Briton Joshua is expected to rematch WBA, WBO and IBF champion Oleksandr Usyk this summer and both Haye and Parker would like to see the winner of Fury-Whyte challenge for the undisputed clash.

"It has to be the undisputed next," Parker says. Haye adds: "I'm hoping Anthony Joshua claims those belts back and then we will have, without doubt, the biggest all-British title fight of all time."

But win, lose or draw, Fury says his plans to retire from the sport following this fight and will not be lured in by the prospect of capturing all of the belts.

"This is it. In the capital city. It's the pinnacle of it all," Fury says.

"There's no amount of money or belts I haven't already won or I haven't already got that will bring me back."

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[shaz619]

Ive been to Wembley a number of times to watch football, so difficult to see a fooball match from the upper stands so for those it will be near impossible to see a punches thrown.

Interesting to see how Dillians coach develops a plan to be beat Fury? Imo Whyte should attack early, suprise Tyson and not allow him to settle in to a jab & move rythm. He needs Tyson to be off his game, unsettle him and try to connect big in the first 3 rounds. Otherwise Imo Fury will hit & move for 12 rounds without getting into too much trouble.

Dillian hasnt fought for over a year. He needs to ensure there is no rust at all, this fight can move at pace early on if he is a little docile.

His style in itself provides a challenge so I think he will keep it simple and pressure Tyson, look to cut him off and attack the body which is his strength, and like you say make it a rough hard fight / force Tyson to exchange, Tyson is no mug on the inside but this is Dillian’s strength and he will look to land that looping left hook on his chin when Tyson is caught a little too square or as he moves out, Dillian is great coming forward but he is also happy to sit on his back foot and counter.

It’s a good observation you made that he been out the ring for 12 months but I don’t think it will be too much of an issue for Dillian because he has been quiet forward with making best use of modern sports science to help with his conditioning, for a bulky guy he doesn’t fade like you’d expect and am aware he has used the resources available at Loughborough Uni to help him throughout his career. He is in amazing shape and it will be how he handles the mental pressure of a big stage and if a frantic pace is set, it can have a psychological impact which can derail your stamina, one of the reasons why Tyson has amazing endurance for a guy his size and that too despite keeping up a high work rate is due to his mentality, he simply doesn’t doesn’t allow external factors to impact his game and if he feels fatigue - he puts it down to his mind attempting to deceive what his human spirit is capable of.

Dillian may find it difficult to disturb Tyson’s rhythm early on but he should look to jab to the body, upper body and Tyson’s throat because these are bigger targets and when he gets close, left hook to the body and keep that up, then if that work slows Tyson down as they go deeper he can mix it up downstairs and to the head / work a bit more. Tyson should keep it nice and long but work choose his spots to work at mid-range to / sit on his punches and turn his hips. Am excited!!

 

[shaz619]

only a stone between em, fury to box and move, whyte to try and cut him off and work the body. fury will aim to tire dillian down, hoping he lunges at him later in the fight to cover the distance and get caught on the counter.

whyte on will be aiming to explode in the first few rounds, land a few body blows and aim to slow down fury for later in the fight.

the former more likely i think, thus thinking a late round KO win for fury. when alls said and done, glad whytes getting a proper pay day, he deserves it.

Both men to go down!!!

Fury is a mad man, who knows? he may come out swinging like he did in the second Wilder fight lol use his hand speed and sit on his punches aha that would be nuts

 

[ElRaja]

Both men to go down!!!

Fury is a mad man, who knows? he may come out swinging like he did in the second Wilder fight lol use his hand speed and sit on his punches aha that would be nuts

true, but in that fight the effects were exacerbated by a shell shocked wilder being unable to work out a counter strategy fast enough. fury was good, but wilder was below par.

whyte is a very strong guy, he can take fury's pressure tactics better than wilder, imo. whatever happens i just hope its entertaining.

 

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For the first time since 1993, two Britons will battle it out for a heavyweight title on home soil.

But despite it being such a colossal fight, hype around Fury-Whyte only really picked up during fight week.

Whyte, aggrieved at his share of the split ordered by the WBC, was quiet during the build-up. His self-imposed media silence meant Fury, up until fight week, had to almost promote the fight singlehandedly.

The challenger also missed Monday’s public workout. The first time the two boxers met face-to-face since the fight announcement was at Wednesday’s media conference.

 

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Dillian Whyte says...

“I'm very chilled and very relaxed. Probably more chilled and relaxed than I've been for previous fight build-ups.

"I'm calm. I don't need to be all aggy and frustrated, because it takes me a split second to turn nasty when I need to, so I don't need to be like, 'I'm going to smash his face in!'

“We've taken a lot of time, a lot of patience, a lot of devotion to get to this stage and we're ready to go.”

 

[James]

Fury to win by KO in the 10th.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

What time is this going to start?

 

[James]

What time is this going to start?

Ring walks expected at 10PM BST

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Thanks James!

 

[IMMY69]

Well that was as one sided as it gets...

 

[Saj]

Whyte was never in that fight.

Brilliant, brutal right uppercut by Fury.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Well that was as one sided as it gets...

indeed! Good fight though. Seems like a great atmosphere.

 

[Maher96]

If it’s his last fight, it is his last fight. It’s Tyson decision says Frank Warren.

Being the highest ever attended boxing fight in Europe… is some way to go out.

What a way to finish.

 

[shaz619]

The most complete and charismatic Heavyweight since Muhammad Ali! no one has toyed with Dillian Whyte like that, a master class and remarkable finish. My god we have been so blessed to have such a heavyweight in our time, nothing left to prove, number uno, P4P ranked, an all time great and he should call it a day. Make no mistake, coming out that brutal Wilder trilogy I felt he should retire; but he went straight into a potential banana skin fight against a proven world class contender and absolutely splattered him. They don’t make them like Tyson anymore

 

[shaz619]

What a performance he barely broke a sweat in there! you look at some of the wars Dillian has been in over the years against some top fighters and no one dominated him in such fashion.

Tyson didn’t waste any energy with his movement, he wasn’t standing on his toes overly and trusted his physical and technical attributes, keeping Whyte at bay with his jab who just couldn’t get close enough or double up his shots, Fury landed some beautiful right hand counters behind the gloves and the speed gave Whyte trouble, when he went to the body it was game over because Whyte begun to square up with his hands low and Fury kept that surprise uppercut for the finish given how Whyte has been susceptible to that punch in his previous defeats and executed it beautifully, they use to call Fury a feather duster, not bad for a feather duster ai; Steward/Kronx has done further wonders for his already highly versatile skillset. The man is on another level altogether.

 

[ElRaja]

props to fury, absolute clinic, but tbh that was a miserable fight, literally toyed with whyte from the first bell to the ko. the walk out medley of juicy and sex on fire was the highlight for me.

 

[Maher96]

WBC champion Tyson Fury produced a stunning one-punch stoppage in the sixth round to beat fellow Briton Dillian Whyte, and then suggested he may now retire from the sport.

Fury dominated what was a scrappy bout and then unleashed a vicious right uppercut. Whyte, admirably, got to his feet within the count before staggering into the referee as the fight was halted.

"This might be the final curtain for the Gypsy King," Fury said immediately after the fight.

Fury - who also retained his Ring Magazine belt - is unbeaten in 33 bouts, while Whyte - suffering his third loss in 32 bouts - falls short on his first attempt at a world title.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/61188235

 

[Manunited18]

No surprise at all. Whyte at best is domestic level, brutally knocked out by a 41 years old povetkin, won a ding ding battle with a ageing chisora, surely know one expected any different tonight other than a comprehensive fury win.

 

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Tyson Fury hints he will retire after knocking out Dillian Whyte to retain WBC heavyweight title

Tyson Fury has suggested he will retire after retaining his WBC heavyweight title and undefeated record with a devastating sixth-round knockout of Dillian Whyte at Wembley Stadium.

Fury, who has now won 32 and drawn one of his 33 bouts, floored Whyte with a stunning right uppercut in front of 94,000 fans in the capital.

The 33-year-old then said "I think this is it" when asked in the ring whether he would fight again.

Fury told BT Sport: "I promised my lovely wife Paris that after the third fight with Deontay Wilder that would be it and I meant it.

"I then got offered to fight at Wembley and I thought I owed it to the fans, to every person in the United Kingdom, to come here and fight.

"Now it's all done I have to be a man of my word. I think this is it, it might be the final curtain for The Gypsy King and what a way to go out!"

Fury's promoter, Frank Warren, told BT Sport: "If it was going to be the last fight, it'll be the last fight. That's his decision, he's the guy getting in the ring. If it is his last fight, he has gone out on such a high."

Fury outboxed challenger Whyte before flattening him, with referee Mark Lyson waving off the fight with one second remaining in the sixth round.

However, the champion showed Whyte respect afterwards, saying he believes the Brixton-based boxer will be a world champion one day.

He added: "Dillian Whyte is a warrior and I believe he will be world champion but tonight he met a great in the sport, one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.

"There is no disgrace. He is a tough, game man. He is as strong as a bull and has the heart of a lion.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/ne...dillian-whyte-to-retain-wbc-heavyweight-title

 

[shortbread]

He'll fight Joshua. It's an easy bout for Fury and the money will be massive!

 

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Tyson Fury could return to the ring for a title unification bout, his wife Paris has.

The Gypsy King sensationally knocked out Dillian Whyte in the sixth round to retain his WBC heavyweight title in front of a sell-out crowd at Wembley.

He has now taken his pro record to 32 wins and a draw from 33 fights.

He said after the fight he would be sticking to a retirement promise he made his wife: "I am a man of my word. This might be the final curtain for The Gypsy King and what a way to go out!"

But, Paris later said the 33-year-old might return for an undisputed world title fight against the winner of Anthony Joshua's rematch with Oleksandr Usyk. Usyk beat Joshua in September to claim the WBA, WBO, IBF and IBO belts.

"I would like him to come out now. He has nothing more to prove," Paris told BT Sport. "If he had anything left to do, I would say 'Yeah Tyson, you do it'. But he has nothing to prove.

"So unless he really wants to box on, and if he's just doing for whatever money, fame, he doesn't need that. He's the most famous man on the planet tonight.

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"For Tyson to keep boxing, it just seems for one reason and I know in my heart, I think the only reason that Tyson will come back is for the unification fight."

Tyson also praised his competitor after the fight: "Dillian Whyte is a warrior and I believe he will be world champion.

"He is as strong as a bull and has the heart of a lion but he is messing with the best man on the planet."

Fury, possessing a considerable height and reach advantage, fought most of the fight on the outside.

He controlled the distance with his jab and punished Whyte with lead hooks as the challenger tried to close the distance.

Whyte was floored by a stunning uppercut with a second to go in the sixth round. He staggered to his feet but was badly dazed and the referee rightly ended proceedings.

Some 94,000 people were in attendance for Fury's first fight on British soil since August 2018.

Fury - who wore gloves inspired by England's flag to mark St George's Day - said: "I cannot believe that my 94,000 countrymen and women come here tonight to see me perform.

"I just want to say, from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much to every single person who bought a ticket here tonight, or stayed up late to watch on TV."

Promoter Frank Warren is among those who support the 33-year-old's decision to call it quits.

He said: "If it was going to be the last fight, it'll be the last fight. That's his decision, he's the guy getting in the ring. And if it is his last fight he has gone out on such a high."

SKY

 

[MenInG]

Everything about Tyson Fury in the ring against Dillian Whyte, in front of 94,000 people at Wembley, was perfection.

He told his team as he left his dressing room "we'll have a masterclass tonight". And boy, oh boy, did he deliver.

I was privileged to be on the ring apron. He was playing and setting Whyte up, and then unleashed that punch. It was inch-perfect. Precise.

Whyte somehow, amazingly, got up. But Fury never put a foot, or punch, wrong.

The Gypsy King has suggested he will now retire. If he does walk away from boxing, I will not be totally surprised - but it is complex.

Fury has a contentment about him. He is in a strangely relaxed and calm place. He has been in that place ever since he beat Deontay Wilder for the title in February 2020.

The bonus fight was the Wilder trilogy fight - the type of war Fury has always wanted to be in. He won and became a national hero that night.

One of the reasons Fury took the fight with Whyte was because he looked at him as one of the last guys out there prepared to face him.

If that fight did not happen, Whyte would have said 'hey, I've been calling you for a year - what are you doing retiring?'

If he stops now, you might point to a missed opportunity to face the winner of Anthony Joshua versus unified champion Oleksandr Usyk for all the belts.

But Fury has already been close to fighting the pair of them. My understanding is that venues, fees, splits and contracts were all agreed for Fury-Joshua last year.

We just about had tickets booked for Saudi Arabia for 8 August but that mega-fight fell out of bed at the last minute when Wilder went to arbitration, so Fury was forced to fight him for the third time.

Then towards the end of last year and the start of this, Usyk-Fury was getting closer and closer. But WBC mandatory challenger Whyte derailed that by saying he would not take a step-aside fee.

Joshua, cleverly, said he never agreed a fee to let Usyk-Fury fight, suggesting he was offered a figure but wanted a little bit more sugar to make it sweet enough.

So Fury will look at the heavyweight landscape and think: 'OK, Usyk and Joshua could not agree terms to get in the ring with me. Everyone who would be brave enough has got in the ring with me and I've taken care of them. I've defied the odds by fighting and beating Wilder and I've gone in with Whyte and proven how big the gap in class is.'

Usyk and Joshua seem nailed on to fight in Saudi Arabia in July, which means Fury - even if he does not retire - will be out of the ring for 12 months anyway. He could return to Wembley next April or May against the winner.

If Usyk and Joshua have a hard, close fight and Usyk just about retains the title - or if Joshua just about regains the title - where is the incentive to get Fury in with two men who have just gone through a gruelling 12-rounder?

What could spice it up and move us closer to an undisputed fight is a dramatic win; if Usyk were to dismantle Joshua then Fury's pride might be tickled. He might just want to get revenge, as he would see it, for all of England.

Equally, if Joshua does what I think he is perfectly capable of and walks through Usyk - too big, too strong, too determined - and then calls out Fury, there is no way, even if Fury is hiding in a bear cave in Alaska, he will not respond to that call-out.

Is Fury the greatest British heavyweight in history?
It is extremely hard to compare heavyweights from different eras because of their size, the way they move, the way they box and how frequently they compete.

The great Henry Cooper, who failed twice against Muhammad Ali, was six stone lighter and seven inches shorter than Fury. That is a ridiculous comparison. It is like comparing an 11-a-side football team with a six-a-side team.

Then you have Lennox Lewis - a big man, albeit smaller than Fury. You can just about compare those two. Lewis v Fury would have been a hell of a fight.

Lewis was mobile, smart, intrepid, a gold medallist with pedigree, heart and desire. He had a whopping jab, big arms and the great Emanuel 'Manny' Steward in his corner.

Fury, quite rightly, has a very high place in the list, the best of his generation, but Lewis was a giant. The king.

The great neglected British heavyweight when you compare the all-time list is Joe Bugner. He was a 15-round specialist. He went that distance with Muhammad Ali and boxed again about five days later. That is what the guys did in the 1970s.

I'd like to see Fury back in WWE

The pride of Morecambe has previously been involved with World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) and I would like to see him back in professional wrestling in October or November.

Last time round, it got him back in the gym. If he were to fight Joshua in April or May 2023, if he has a 10-week training camp in wrestling, it would be fantastic.

Can you imagine him touring the USA with the WWE? It would be like touring with Kiss, the greatest rock band in history - he will be selling out 20,000 arenas every night of the week for a month. It would be incredible.

Sure, WWE is choreographed, but you cannot choreograph how you fall from the five-foot-high ring turnbuckle when a guy swings you.

You land on your back, head, shoulder - you suffer physically. You do not get hit on the chin like you do in boxing, but it is a brutal sport.

I am not sure about a hybrid MMA-boxing fight which Fury has suggested. If he faces someone from the UFC, it would have to be under boxing rules.

Does he fight Francis Ngannou - a big UFC heavyweight champion - and beat him in a boxing bout? Yes, with so much ease that it is embarrassing. He might be able to do it while smoking a cigar and in his slippers.

It would be foolish to compete with anybody under MMA rules where you're permitted to take your opponent down.

Fury is a good grappler, which is a big part of his training, but he is not a professional grappler like the big MMA stars.

Whyte is not damaged, just heartbroken
I want to end with a word or two on Whyte.

He lost to the greatest of his generation, but showed his heart, fitness and strength by somehow climbing up.

I spoke to him in the dressing room and he was broken. He will take a little break and come back fresh. He can still compete with every other heavyweight at the moment.

What is interesting is how quickly he has already been abandoned and ridiculed. He got hit with one stunning shot, got out-jabbed for five and half rounds and clipped a few times to the body.

Trust me, he is not damaged. He is just heartbroken. Once he dries those tears and gets back in the gym, the rest of the division best look out.

BBC

 

[silentkiller187]

Whytes been overhyped to the moon and back, this fight exposed him for what he reallys is. He has heart but his technique is poor, his level will always be Chisora , Povetkin, Parker etc. It was almost like he accepted defeat before the bell rang and was happy to pocket the £8 million biggest payday of his life.

As for Fury he has nothing left to prove, i have a feeling he may be back yet, but now he is in a position to call all the shots with AJ , they will make Hearn et al grovel and beg for a fight to even happen.

 

[mazkhan]

Apart from the Joshua fight there's nothing left in boxing for tyson

That's why I would like to see him move into mma.

He also has wwe since he has that persona comic ability or even British film or Hollywood

 

[shaz619]

Whytes been overhyped to the moon and back, this fight exposed him for what he reallys is. He has heart but his technique is poor, his level will always be Chisora , Povetkin, Parker etc. It was almost like he accepted defeat before the bell rang and was happy to pocket the £8 million biggest payday of his life.

As for Fury he has nothing left to prove, i have a feeling he may be back yet, but now he is in a position to call all the shots with AJ , they will make Hearn et al grovel and beg for a fight to even happen.

I think you’re doing a massive disservice to Tyson Fury. It’s about levels mate, Whyte may well still have the potential to be champion one day but it wont be against Fury. Look at his perception prior to this fight and the risk he presented, it’s very easy to say I told you so after the fight; many expected the Fury win, but perhaps not for him to be as dominant as he was out of respect for Whyte who was universally ranked in the top 4 by every respected publication. He earned that respect beating former world champions and the resume is impressive, including wins over the likes of Oscar Rivas, Povetkin, Parker (all three rated in the top 10) and a rejuvenated Chisora who bodied Takam; Whyte has his limitations, he wasn’t blessed with natural ability but under Tibbs he worked hard on his strengths, to develop a solid jab which was non-existent, plant his feet a bit more to help with his balancing issues and focus more on applying pressure and his Boxing IQ which was displayed through his counter punching ability, he also took up the resources available at our leading sports uni in the country to improve his conditioning. I thought prior to this and also despite that magic KO punch that he looked the best he ever has in his last couple of fights, his defensive movement was especially much improved.

Whyte doesn’t give any fighter an easy night, it’s just his luck that he was in the ring with an all time great. Nobody has dominated Whyte like that and I know Fury mentioned retirement but he looked to get even better technically, his style was a mesh of his own and Lewis (not surprising as he trains out the Kronx gym), he was moving well but not exaggerating his footwork to enable him to plant his feet more and make more use of his jab for the range taking full advantage of his reach opposed to having to move laterally, he was positioned beautifully, that uppercut we’ve seen from Kronx fighters in the past, you’re measured with the jab and it’s thrown from the right hand position which makes it very deceptive.

It’s easier said then done and I feel Whyte did try his best but it wasn’t enough, he just couldn’t get close to a 6ft+ switch hitter who held every advantage physically, mentally and skilfully; there has never been a Heavyweight that big like that who had all the tools

 

[silentkiller187]

I think you’re doing a massive disservice to Tyson Fury. It’s about levels mate, Whyte may well still have the potential to be champion one day but it wont be against Fury. Look at his perception prior to this fight and the risk he presented, it’s very easy to say I told you so after the fight; many expected the Fury win, but perhaps not for him to be as dominant as he was out of respect for Whyte who was universally ranked in the top 4 by every respected publication. He earned that respect beating former world champions and the resume is impressive, including wins over the likes of Oscar Rivas, Povetkin, Parker (all three rated in the top 10) and a rejuvenated Chisora who bodied Takam; Whyte has his limitations, he wasn’t blessed with natural ability but under Tibbs he worked hard on his strengths, to develop a solid jab which was non-existent, plant his feet a bit more to help with his balancing issues and focus more on applying pressure and his Boxing IQ which was displayed through his counter punching ability, he also took up the resources available at our leading sports uni in the country to improve his conditioning. I thought prior to this and also despite that magic KO punch that he looked the best he ever has in his last couple of fights, his defensive movement was especially much improved.

Whyte doesn’t give any fighter an easy night, it’s just his luck that he was in the ring with an all time great. Nobody has dominated Whyte like that and I know Fury mentioned retirement but he looked to get even better technically, his style was a mesh of his own and Lewis (not surprising as he trains out the Kronx gym), he was moving well but not exaggerating his footwork to enable him to plant his feet more and make more use of his jab for the range taking full advantage of his reach opposed to having to move laterally, he was positioned beautifully, that uppercut we’ve seen from Kronx fighters in the past, you’re measured with the jab and it’s thrown from the right hand position which makes it very deceptive.

It’s easier said then done and I feel Whyte did try his best but it wasn’t enough, he just couldn’t get close to a 6ft+ switch hitter who held every advantage physically, mentally and skilfully; there has never been a Heavyweight that big like that who had all the tools

I get what your saying, but lets not kid anyone this is a very average heavyweight division at the moment.

Fury is head and shoulders above everyone else, then you have AJ , USYK potentially Wilder , Dillian Whyte is very close to that catergory but in reality he is a level below even Joshua, Wilder etc. Rivas, Povetkin, Parker , Takam etc are all in this 3rd catergory.

No disrespect to Dillian he works very hard as you said and has made the most of his limited abilities, but i think the fight on Ssaturday showed how big the ability gap was between the boxers, Fury in my opinion didnt even come out of 2nd/3rd gear.

 

[shaz619]

I get what your saying, but lets not kid anyone this is a very average heavyweight division at the moment.

Fury is head and shoulders above everyone else, then you have AJ , USYK potentially Wilder , Dillian Whyte is very close to that catergory but in reality he is a level below even Joshua, Wilder etc. Rivas, Povetkin, Parker , Takam etc are all in this 3rd catergory.

No disrespect to Dillian he works very hard as you said and has made the most of his limited abilities, but i think the fight on Ssaturday showed how big the ability gap was between the boxers, Fury in my opinion didnt even come out of 2nd/3rd gear.

I agree with you totally, Fury remained in 2nd gear; that was the beauty of his performance, no wasted energy and his boxing IQ was on full display. And while the division isn’t that strong especially 5-10 compared to the hey day of the HW division, overall it’s much better then Klitschko era but that’s also Tyson who I feel is the best HW since Lennox Lewis and he is up there with the best ever, in past era’s it truly was a golden generation with multiple fighters who were worthy of HOF, now it’s a little more balanced in that sense. Wilder is severely under rated due to his knack for throwing his fundamentals out the window at times, but who would bet with full confidence against him ? when up against the likes of AJ, Usyk or Whyte.

AJ would have been a very winnable fight for the much improved Whyte at the time, it’s a shame he turned it down in the garden. Now, things are a little more levelled out as AJ would take confidence from his KO loss, although AJ himself changed his style after losing to Ruiz and that instinct went missing, however I will reserve my judgement on that until I see the Usyk rematch because with the right gameplay he can do much better. Usyk’s skills deserve respect and he is P4P ranked, he’s not established in the division and he has the chance to strive for that. Then let’s not forget Joe Joyce, or Joseph Parker who has improved under Andy Lee, he doesn’t square up as much anymore and you got Daniel Dubois in the wings to. It’s tough to have so many ATG’s at the same time like we did before but the division is in good health

 

[MenInG]

Dillian Whyte says he should have received 'extra time to recover' after he was 'pushed' by Tyson Fury, just seconds before his world title stoppage defeat at Wembley.

The Brixton man was hurt by an uppercut in the sixth round, but believes the referee should have penalised Fury for shoving him before his head heavily hit the canvas.

Whyte, who was speaking to Sky Sports at the Fairmont Hotel in Windsor Park, said: "I was buzzed but obviously I was trying to regather my senses and he proper pushed me and I fell over and hit my head on the canvas which is illegal.

"This isn't wrestling, this is boxing. I should have been allowed extra time to recover and then carried on fighting.

"I got caught, no doubt about it. I got caught by a good shot. I went for the left uppercut, he went for the right uppercut. He's a bit taller than me, so obviously he landed his at range. I was hurt, I was trying to get my senses together and he full on, two-handed pushed me. It wasn't like a one-armed thing.

"Terrible job from the referee there, but it is, what it is.

"I should have had time to recover, time to go back to my corner, but Tyson Fury gets away with a lot of things.

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"He said he would retire. I hope he doesn't retire, because I want another go.

"He said you're a good fighter, a true warrior, you're going to be a world champion. I'm not a sore loser. You win some, you lose some, this is life."

Whyte suffered a nasty gash over his right eye in the fourth round, the first time he has sustained a cut in 31 professional bouts.

"He kept on leaning down to the side and putting the head in and stuff like that," revealed Whyte.

"He leans down and he put the head in, he clashed with me and I got the cut and obviously the ref started telling me off.

"I was like, 'what the hell is going on here? I got head butted?'

"The fight spiralled a bit, until he started punching me in the back of the head. I started doing it to him and then his corner started throwing water and stuff like that, which was a bit crazy.

"I kept on getting all the blame. He was the one that was holding, he was the one that was headbutting and being dirty in the fight."

Whyte has vowed to return to the ring and remains confident he can swiftly force his way back into contention for another world title shot.

"I'm still young enough, I've still got a lot left in me," said Whyte.

"Still feel strong and I'm still getting better. I've fought the best in the world and I wasn't outclassed or outboxed. He was taller and the range was a bit tricky, because of the style, it's hard to get guys to prepare for him, because he's awkward and the way he fights. But I wasn't outclassed. I landed my fair bit of leather.

"It's not a long, hard road back, because I've showed the level I am. We sold 90 something thousand tickets together. It's not him alone or me alone. I added value going in before. I've had loads of pay-per-view fights, they have all sold out, they have all been good fights.

"I'm still there, I'm still good enough. One fight and I'm back!"

SKY

 

[Champ_Pal]

Terrible sport is what it is. Should be banned along with MMA and other useless sports.

 

[Zaz]

Shaz Whats your thoughts on the so called push by fury?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Dillian Whyte is a bum!

Pathetic peformance in what will be his only title shot. He looked gassed after 3 rounds.

Whyte was on his way down, a beauty of an uppercut, the push only helped to the canvas.

Easy work for Fury, total mismatch. Its best he retires, there isnt anyone in the HW scene who can give him a good fight.

HW boxing is at its lowest point imo. Its all hype in the HW division in order for PPV sales.

Only Fury would have been competitive in the 90's. The rest of these bums wouldnt have got past fighting at Earls Court.

 

[silentkiller187]

I agree with you totally, Fury remained in 2nd gear; that was the beauty of his performance, no wasted energy and his boxing IQ was on full display. And while the division isn’t that strong especially 5-10 compared to the hey day of the HW division, overall it’s much better then Klitschko era but that’s also Tyson who I feel is the best HW since Lennox Lewis and he is up there with the best ever, in past era’s it truly was a golden generation with multiple fighters who were worthy of HOF, now it’s a little more balanced in that sense. Wilder is severely under rated due to his knack for throwing his fundamentals out the window at times, but who would bet with full confidence against him ? when up against the likes of AJ, Usyk or Whyte.

AJ would have been a very winnable fight for the much improved Whyte at the time, it’s a shame he turned it down in the garden. Now, things are a little more levelled out as AJ would take confidence from his KO loss, although AJ himself changed his style after losing to Ruiz and that instinct went missing, however I will reserve my judgement on that until I see the Usyk rematch because with the right gameplay he can do much better. Usyk’s skills deserve respect and he is P4P ranked, he’s not established in the division and he has the chance to strive for that. Then let’s not forget Joe Joyce, or Joseph Parker who has improved under Andy Lee, he doesn’t square up as much anymore and you got Daniel Dubois in the wings to. It’s tough to have so many ATG’s at the same time like we did before but the division is in good health

Definetly, i always thought Fury would put on a boxing masterclass, stay in 1st gear take it easy on Dillian and comfortably out point him, i think 3rd or 4th round when they had a little clash Fury decided to step it up a notch and from then on it was a matter of time.

Wilder gets a lot of stick but personally i reckon him vs AJ would be a lot closer than people would have you believe, to the extent where i would have Wilder as favourite. Dillian vs AJ again would be a great fight and a lot closer than the first leg they fought. USYK in my opinion is the only one who could touch Fury legacy, right now Fury beats him easy i reckon but lets not forget Usyk is up and coming, if he beats AJ again then he will propel himself to the big time and probably retire AJ at the same time.

Biggest mistake AJ/Hearne made was to get too big headed too early, they had the chance to create the battle of Britain, both fighters would have got paid handsomely, the potential was there for a trilogy they could have milked it. Now watch Fury hold all the cards he also wont forget how Hearne treated him early in his career so i wouldnt be surprised if Fury declines the AJ fight now and retires.

 

[shaz619]

Shaz Whats your thoughts on the so called push by fury?

No issue with it at all, fighters get pushed like that instinctively all the time, a push wasn’t going to put him down in that way, Whyte was out before Fury did it. I actually think that, because Fury did push him, he might have reached the canvas a touch quicker and when he hit the floor he woke up due to that. Reminds me of when Earnie Shavers dropped Larry Holmes with a nasty looping right hook, Holmes was out while he dropped but awoke when he hit the canvas hard.

 

[shaz619]

Definetly, i always thought Fury would put on a boxing masterclass, stay in 1st gear take it easy on Dillian and comfortably out point him, i think 3rd or 4th round when they had a little clash Fury decided to step it up a notch and from then on it was a matter of time.

Wilder gets a lot of stick but personally i reckon him vs AJ would be a lot closer than people would have you believe, to the extent where i would have Wilder as favourite. Dillian vs AJ again would be a great fight and a lot closer than the first leg they fought. USYK in my opinion is the only one who could touch Fury legacy, right now Fury beats him easy i reckon but lets not forget Usyk is up and coming, if he beats AJ again then he will propel himself to the big time and probably retire AJ at the same time.

Biggest mistake AJ/Hearne made was to get too big headed too early, they had the chance to create the battle of Britain, both fighters would have got paid handsomely, the potential was there for a trilogy they could have milked it. Now watch Fury hold all the cards he also wont forget how Hearne treated him early in his career so i wouldnt be surprised if Fury declines the AJ fight now and retires.

There’s a reason Hearns and AJ avoided Wilder for so long, his chin, mentality and heart have been questionable, he’s a bizarre dude. I think when both AJ/Wilder were unbeaten, Wilder would have put him to sleep emphatically, now that Wilder has lost a bit of aura maybe the dynamic would be a bit different but I still see Wilder knocking him out brutally, Wilder gets outboxed by majority of fighters and he doesn’t mind; his game revolves around the big right hand and he got pop in his left to. I would be shocked if AJ fought Wilder even now. Hearns/AJ got too greedy with step aside money and over the years have made some shocking comments, they always prioritised the dough snd built their cash cow up in the most protected way, the cash cow has nearly had its final milking. Besides making a few quid, in this moment there really is no motivation for Fury from a legacy stand point.

 

[ElRaja]

There’s a reason Hearns and AJ avoided Wilder for so long, his chin, mentality and heart have been questionable, he’s a bizarre dude. I think when both AJ/Wilder were unbeaten, Wilder would have put him to sleep emphatically, now that Wilder has lost a bit of aura maybe the dynamic would be a bit different but I still see Wilder knocking him out brutally, Wilder gets outboxed by majority of fighters and he doesn’t mind; his game revolves around the big right hand and he got pop in his left to. I would be shocked if AJ fought Wilder even now. Hearns/AJ got too greedy with step aside money and over the years have made some shocking comments, they always prioritised the dough snd built their cash cow up in the most protected way, the cash cow has nearly had its final milking. Besides making a few quid, in this moment there really is no motivation for Fury from a legacy stand point.

hearns mismanaged joshua into a corner, pre fury era, unbeaten joshua wilder would have made crazy money. now wilder doesnt want it, and the only realistic fight left for joshua post usyk (if he wins, and thats not certain) is fury. theres no way fury is gonna make it even a remotely balanced split, would be surprised if he settled for anything under 70%.

fwiw wilder is crazy under rated imo, he has a crazy chin and heart to keep coming back against fury until he was sparked out cold. wilder would have been a problem in any generation. would have been easier for wilder to delay the eventual third match and make some money but he didnt care, he really wanted the legacy of being the best and you can tell losing that sucked all the motivation out of him.

also the fact that wilder wanted fury so bad after losing puts paid to the notion that wilder might have ducked josh. fury is a league above wilder, whose a league above the rest imo.

 

[ElRaja]

Dillian Whyte is a bum!

Pathetic peformance in what will be his only title shot. He looked gassed after 3 rounds.

Whyte was on his way down, a beauty of an uppercut, the push only helped to the canvas.

Easy work for Fury, total mismatch. Its best he retires, there isnt anyone in the HW scene who can give him a good fight.

HW boxing is at its lowest point imo. Its all hype in the HW division in order for PPV sales.

Only Fury would have been competitive in the 90's. The rest of these bums wouldnt have got past fighting at Earls Court.

would loved to have seen lewis fury, would have been an amazing fight imo.

 

[KingKhanWC]

would loved to have seen lewis fury, would have been an amazing fight imo.

Lennox was a master at closing the distance and lethal inside. Tyson would still have the great jab to control him but yes it would be an amazing fight. I have no idea who would win but I'd just go with Lennox because he has proven to beat great fighters. Tyson(not his fault) but has only beaten one great boxer in Vlad.

 

[ElRaja]

Lennox was a master at closing the distance and lethal inside. Tyson would still have the great jab to control him but yes it would be an amazing fight. I have no idea who would win but I'd just go with Lennox because he has proven to beat great fighters. Tyson(not his fault) but has only beaten one great boxer in Vlad.

tend to agree, another thing going for fury is hes been dropped by wilder and gotten up, thats some unreal bottle to get up like that, yes his competition has not been as tough as the nineties, but in terms of taking power punches hes demonstrated he is atg level imo. but i loved lennox too, clever, strong, and technically proficient. just writing about it makes me kinda frustrated that there isnt that kinda fighter to challenge fury.

 

[KingKhanWC]

tend to agree, another thing going for fury is hes been dropped by wilder and gotten up, thats some unreal bottle to get up like that, yes his competition has not been as tough as the nineties, but in terms of taking power punches hes demonstrated he is atg level imo. but i loved lennox too, clever, strong, and technically proficient. just writing about it makes me kinda frustrated that there isnt that kinda fighter to challenge fury.

At HW level there isnt such a thing as a granite chin , anyone can go down but having a stong chin does help. With Fury I feel its not his chin but his incredible determination and fighting spirit. Im not too sure about genetics but its also possible he has some fighting genetics which makes him keep going even when he seems gone.

I hope Fury goes quit. He has made so much money, his health is really good and he has a large family. No point getting hurt or worse ending up with brain damage to fight average opponents.

Fury is looking for an exhibition fight with UFC's Francis Nganu. Problem is casuals have taken over as the majority watchers. You have allsorts of people who went to Wembley, most didnt see anything but its a good night out. Sadly you will see a lot of made up fights between celebs or cross combat sports fights where nobody will get hurt, no damage, no real compeition but the casuals will ensure a huge payday, more than the actual combat sport fights.

 

[ElRaja]

At HW level there isnt such a thing as a granite chin , anyone can go down but having a stong chin does help. With Fury I feel its not his chin but his incredible determination and fighting spirit. Im not too sure about genetics but its also possible he has some fighting genetics which makes him keep going even when he seems gone.

I hope Fury goes quit. He has made so much money, his health is really good and he has a large family. No point getting hurt or worse ending up with brain damage to fight average opponents.

Fury is looking for an exhibition fight with UFC's Francis Nganu. Problem is casuals have taken over as the majority watchers. You have allsorts of people who went to Wembley, most didnt see anything but its a good night out. Sadly you will see a lot of made up fights between celebs or cross combat sports fights where nobody will get hurt, no damage, no real compeition but the casuals will ensure a huge payday, more than the actual combat sport fights.

true, but if it brings more people to boxing, then maybe it can serve a purpose. i enjoyed fury wilder 3 a lot, but it was bittersweet cos for me it signalled the end of the current era of heavyweight boxing. and once spence crawford is done, then that kinda is a problem for world boxing, cos fury, canelo, and the eventual winner of that fight will have run out of opponents

gonna go back to following the up and coming britpak boxers for now.

 

[KingKhanWC]

true, but if it brings more people to boxing, then maybe it can serve a purpose. i enjoyed fury wilder 3 a lot, but it was bittersweet cos for me it signalled the end of the current era of heavyweight boxing. and once spence crawford is done, then that kinda is a problem for world boxing, cos fury, canelo, and the eventual winner of that fight will have run out of opponents

gonna go back to following the up and coming britpak boxers for now.

I used to feel the same, more watchers better fights but this wont happen. Casuals wont personality, someone funny, someone stupid or someone good looking for the women who think its a nice night out with wine.

Eventually the best entertainers who are figthers will get the biggest fights while great boxers with little personality will be pushed to the side.

UFC also has the same issue but overall the best fight the best, which is why this brand is taking over combat sports.

 

[shaz619]

hearns mismanaged joshua into a corner, pre fury era, unbeaten joshua wilder would have made crazy money. now wilder doesnt want it, and the only realistic fight left for joshua post usyk (if he wins, and thats not certain) is fury. theres no way fury is gonna make it even a remotely balanced split, would be surprised if he settled for anything under 70%.

fwiw wilder is crazy under rated imo, he has a crazy chin and heart to keep coming back against fury until he was sparked out cold. wilder would have been a problem in any generation. would have been easier for wilder to delay the eventual third match and make some money but he didnt care, he really wanted the legacy of being the best and you can tell losing that sucked all the motivation out of him.

also the fact that wilder wanted fury so bad after losing puts paid to the notion that wilder might have ducked josh. fury is a league above wilder, whose a league above the rest imo.

AJ is tailor made for Wilder’s right hand, they avoided Wilder like the plague, it makes no sense to avoid AJ to face a master boxer like Fury who is much bigger stylistic challenge. Fury was out for a while, there have been so many opportunities for Hearns and AJ but why risk his career when he could milk the casuals smashing bums like Takam to bits before thousands in stadiums, when AJ got in the ring with fatty and lost his marbles, it sort of reinforced why he avoided the big fights for so long, he’s yet to have a signature win against any top 2/3 HW in their prime. Emanuel Steward was right all those years ago when he singled out Fury and Wilder to be prominent in their era, they cause fits in any generation

 

[shaz619]

I used to feel the same, more watchers better fights but this wont happen. Casuals wont personality, someone funny, someone stupid or someone good looking for the women who think its a nice night out with wine.

Eventually the best entertainers who are figthers will get the biggest fights while great boxers with little personality will be pushed to the side.

UFC also has the same issue but overall the best fight the best, which is why this brand is taking over combat sports.

UFC will never take over Boxing which is too big. Outside someone like Khabib who fought with honour, the rest are considered savages in the mainstream and it’s still a bit taboo to watch two dudes rolling around on the floor together with their kajoonas in their faces Boxing is plagued by politics and corruption due to so many sanctioning bodies and links with the mob especially in the past but through it all, it still captures the public’s imagination, it’s not dying at all, these are just events from the past few weeks:

GGG/Murata - 40k attended in Japan
Spence/Ugas - 40k in the US
Fury/Whyte - nearly 100k at Wembley

This has never happened before especially here in the UK but around the world from a popularity stand point, Boxing is in amazing health

 

[shaz619]

Just think what a horrible undercard that was, I like Frank but he barely spent any money on it despite having the likes of Daniel Dubois, Joe Joyce, Anthony Yarde on his roster etc people still paid 25 quid to watch that PPV and tickets sold out in minutes for Wembley. The buys will be very interesting to see, also considering the poor build and lack of professionalism from Whyfe

 

[ElRaja]

AJ is tailor made for Wilder’s right hand, they avoided Wilder like the plague, it makes no sense to avoid AJ to face a master boxer like Fury who is much bigger stylistic challenge. Fury was out for a while, there have been so many opportunities for Hearns and AJ but why risk his career when he could milk the casuals smashing bums like Takam to bits before thousands in stadiums, when AJ got in the ring with fatty and lost his marbles, it sort of reinforced why he avoided the big fights for so long, he’s yet to have a signature win against any top 2/3 HW in their prime. Emanuel Steward was right all those years ago when he singled out Fury and Wilder to be prominent in their era, they cause fits in any generation

i think the penny dropped after the usyk fight tho, joshua seems to have dropped his media image, seems to not be bothering with trying to hide his real personality now, and i for one want to see that transferred in the ring, just be a bit more of a dog in the ring, whatever to get the job done kinda attitude, come hell or high water, would make him a far more entertaining fighter, to me at least.

the usyk rematch i fully expect him to try and bludgeon and bully usyk, whether he can do it against a master technician is another matter, but its his only hope imo, and he realises it, so i would be v surprised if he leaves anything in the bag given his career will be on the line, expecting someone to get sparked.

 

[KingKhanWC]

UFC will never take over Boxing which is too big. Outside someone like Khabib who fought with honour, the rest are considered savages in the mainstream and it’s still a bit taboo to watch two dudes rolling around on the floor together with their kajoonas in their faces Boxing is plagued by politics and corruption due to so many sanctioning bodies and links with the mob especially in the past but through it all, it still captures the public’s imagination, it’s not dying at all, these are just events from the past few weeks:

GGG/Murata - 40k attended in Japan
Spence/Ugas - 40k in the US
Fury/Whyte - nearly 100k at Wembley

This has never happened before especially here in the UK but around the world from a popularity stand point, Boxing is in amazing health

Boxing is my no.1 combat sport, it has a great history and known all over the world.

MMA wont take over boxing but I was talking in terms of brand, the UFC have seen a huge rise in the last decade while boxing has taken a hit. I fully agree with your reasons, the politics are getting out of hand. Teddy Atlas also has similiar views, check out his take very interesting and Teddy is of course a legend of the boxing game. I think us boxing fans are frustrated not seeing the best v the best, ducking, promoters arguing, no great champions apart from Fury,Canelo. UFC will almost all time fight the best with the best. UFC prefer arenas to stadiums but could fill out Wembley too with the right fighters.

Good news for Boxing is British boxing, so many great talents. The Asian boxers are coming through great too. Looking forward to seeing the youth emerge now.

 

[Firebat]

Fury v Ngannou: UFC heavyweight says crossover fight likely in 2023

UFC heavyweight champion Francis Ngannou expects a crossover fight with Tyson Fury to happen next year.

Ngannou, 35, joined Fury in the ring for a post-fight interview following his stunning sixth-round knockout of Dillian Whyte at Wembley on Saturday.

"We both want this fight, that's clear, and we respect each other," Ngannou said on the MMA Hour on Monday.

Fury, 33, has hinted at retirement from professional boxing but did not rule out competing under a different format.

Cameroon's Ngannou added: "Probably next year it will happen.

"I think it's going to happen, it's just a matter of our promotions, but we will sort this out at some point."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/mixed-martial-arts/61224057

 

[IMMY69]

I enjoyed reading through this thread more then the actual fight itself!
Such insightful posts from the usual maestros.

The fight itself didn't really excite me. It's not that I didn't buy in to the build up, I just felt the low key approach from White was because he knew exactly what was coming his way. No big talk, no pre-fight arguments, zero drama etc and the fight went exactly the same way.

It was always a matter of time before the inevitable end (be it by KO, TKO or a unanimous points victory).

Fury was not never going to lose from a singe wondrous punch from White. He is just technically too good to be caught like that.

 

[Reddy]

Definetly, i always thought Fury would put on a boxing masterclass, stay in 1st gear take it easy on Dillian and comfortably out point him, i think 3rd or 4th round when they had a little clash Fury decided to step it up a notch and from then on it was a matter of time.

Wilder gets a lot of stick but personally i reckon him vs AJ would be a lot closer than people would have you believe, to the extent where i would have Wilder as favourite. Dillian vs AJ again would be a great fight and a lot closer than the first leg they fought. USYK in my opinion is the only one who could touch Fury legacy, right now Fury beats him easy i reckon but lets not forget Usyk is up and coming, if he beats AJ again then he will propel himself to the big time and probably retire AJ at the same time.

Biggest mistake AJ/Hearne made was to get too big headed too early, they had the chance to create the battle of Britain, both fighters would have got paid handsomely, the potential was there for a trilogy they could have milked it. Now watch Fury hold all the cards he also wont forget how Hearne treated him early in his career so i wouldnt be surprised if Fury declines the AJ fight now and retires.

ThereÂ’s a reason Hearns and AJ avoided Wilder for so long, his chin, mentality and heart have been questionable, heÂ’s a bizarre dude. I think when both AJ/Wilder were unbeaten, Wilder would have put him to sleep emphatically, now that Wilder has lost a bit of aura maybe the dynamic would be a bit different but I still see Wilder knocking him out brutally, Wilder gets outboxed by majority of fighters and he doesnÂ’t mind; his game revolves around the big right hand and he got pop in his left to. I would be shocked if AJ fought Wilder even now. Hearns/AJ got too greedy with step aside money and over the years have made some shocking comments, they always prioritised the dough snd built their cash cow up in the most protected way, the cash cow has nearly had its final milking. Besides making a few quid, in this moment there really is no motivation for Fury from a legacy stand point.

hearns mismanaged joshua into a corner, pre fury era, unbeaten joshua wilder would have made crazy money. now wilder doesnt want it, and the only realistic fight left for joshua post usyk (if he wins, and thats not certain) is fury. theres no way fury is gonna make it even a remotely balanced split, would be surprised if he settled for anything under 70%.

fwiw wilder is crazy under rated imo, he has a crazy chin and heart to keep coming back against fury until he was sparked out cold. wilder would have been a problem in any generation. would have been easier for wilder to delay the eventual third match and make some money but he didnt care, he really wanted the legacy of being the best and you can tell losing that sucked all the motivation out of him.

also the fact that wilder wanted fury so bad after losing puts paid to the notion that wilder might have ducked josh. fury is a league above wilder, whose a league above the rest imo.

Deontay Wilder will knock out Joshua even at 40 years old which is the age at which AJ/Hearn prefer to take fights. Also, Hearn paid off only one judge in the first AJ-Usyk match, watch Hearn buy all three judges this time and get the victory by robbery for AJ.

 

[shaz619]

Boxing is my no.1 combat sport, it has a great history and known all over the world.

MMA wont take over boxing but I was talking in terms of brand, the UFC have seen a huge rise in the last decade while boxing has taken a hit. I fully agree with your reasons, the politics are getting out of hand. Teddy Atlas also has similiar views, check out his take very interesting and Teddy is of course a legend of the boxing game. I think us boxing fans are frustrated not seeing the best v the best, ducking, promoters arguing, no great champions apart from Fury,Canelo. UFC will almost all time fight the best with the best. UFC prefer arenas to stadiums but could fill out Wembley too with the right fighters.

Good news for Boxing is British boxing, so many great talents. The Asian boxers are coming through great too. Looking forward to seeing the youth emerge now.

Yes no doubt about that UFC has defo established itself in the world of MMA especially in the last 15 years or so thanks to the likes of GSP, Lesnar, Anderson Silva, Conor, Ronda and Khabib who’ve helped them achieve mainstream attention. But they need to build that next big draw and improve fighter pay or risk losing fighters to these cross over fights or exhibitions, Mcgregor wasn’t the same after that Floyd money. Teddy Atlas blows hot and cold, always one extreme or another but he is a little too Us biased for me, his opinions on AK are so pathetic and shocking, most probably due to his association with Bradley who went to hell and back to duck AK all those years ago even for undisputed stakes.

Yep, look forward to following them so many great talents out there of asian background. And while the best facing the best is not common you’d be surprised by the number of great fights out there and guys I know you’d follow such as Berterbiev, I will post some great upcoming match ups soon not had chance to post much in Boxing thread on the schedule but we’ve had some great fights and fixtures up and down the weight classes

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

UFC will never take over Boxing which is too big. Outside someone like Khabib who fought with honour, the rest are considered savages in the mainstream and it’s still a bit taboo to watch two dudes rolling around on the floor together with their kajoonas in their faces Boxing is plagued by politics and corruption due to so many sanctioning bodies and links with the mob especially in the past but through it all, it still captures the public’s imagination, it’s not dying at all, these are just events from the past few weeks:

GGG/Murata - 40k attended in Japan
Spence/Ugas - 40k in the US
Fury/Whyte - nearly 100k at Wembley

This has never happened before especially here in the UK but around the world from a popularity stand point, Boxing is in amazing health

Strangely enough, it's gone the other way for me, I am far more into UFC these days, maybe because I've been watching it from it's inception back when Royce Gracie won the inaugaral tournament when basically anyone fought with no regard to weight divisions. There are some really great fighters out there now, and it's still at the stage where the best face off against each other or lose their belt, whereas in boxing it seems a decent fighter can go a whole career making a name for himself without ever fighting the genuine pound for pound champs of the division.

 

[shaz619]

Strangely enough, it's gone the other way for me, I am far more into UFC these days, maybe because I've been watching it from it's inception back when Royce Gracie won the inaugaral tournament when basically anyone fought with no regard to weight divisions. There are some really great fighters out there now, and it's still at the stage where the best face off against each other or lose their belt, whereas in boxing it seems a decent fighter can go a whole career making a name for himself without ever fighting the genuine pound for pound champs of the division.

It’s easier to say the best fight the best because there is only one title, and to a lesser extent the interim championship over there. In Boxing due to multiple alphabet titles and influence from organisations, it clouds the historic lineage of the traditional weight classes and the RING title closely follow the lineage and can only be won when #1 faces #2 and in some exceptional instances #3. It’s rare to win the RING due to multiple factors at play but in the recent past there are probably only 4 weight classes without a RING champion which doesn’t fit the stereotype of the best not fighting the best. We’ve had some amazing match ups and exciting schedule for this year. At the same time I disagree that any decent fighter can make a few quid, Boxing does have a much higher ceiling due to the increased risk and notoriety of the sport in the mainstream because 80% of fighters in the world make peanuts relative to the risk they take + expenses and in the end to get most out of their investment, you need at least be able to compete domestically, we overlook how good you need to be in order to reach that level.

In UFC you need a world title shot to make big money and that’s not even big money is it but point is that to me is going to hurt the sport in the long run because outside those really passionate for MMA more folk are going to be attracted to Boxing, UFC is a promotion at the end of the day though I guess, if Bellator reach a similar level then things could get really interesting

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It’s easier to say the best fight the best because there is only one title, and to a lesser extent the interim championship over there. In Boxing due to multiple alphabet titles and influence from organisations, it clouds the historic lineage of the traditional weight classes and the RING title closely follow the lineage and can only be won when #1 faces #2 and in some exceptional instances #3. It’s rare to win the RING due to multiple factors at play but in the recent past there are probably only 4 weight classes without a RING champion which doesn’t fit the stereotype of the best not fighting the best. We’ve had some amazing match ups and exciting schedule for this year. At the same time I disagree that any decent fighter can make a few quid, Boxing does have a much higher ceiling due to the increased risk and notoriety of the sport in the mainstream because 80% of fighters in the world make peanuts relative to the risk they take + expenses and in the end to get most out of their investment, you need at least be able to compete domestically, we overlook how good you need to be in order to reach that level.

In UFC you need a world title shot to make big money and that’s not even big money is it but point is that to me is going to hurt the sport in the long run because outside those really passionate for MMA more folk are going to be attracted to Boxing, UFC is a promotion at the end of the day though I guess, if Bellator reach a similar level then things could get really interesting

Isn't Bellator the competition where retired UFC fighters compete? I only ever watched one show and it was between Chael Sonnen and Quinton Jackson, both formerly gun fighters who had been beaten out of the cage in UFC, then turned up in Bellator a few years later looking quite a bit heavier and older.

Which channel do you recommend to watch boxing? I know there are some subscription channels on Sky, but they seem to concentrate on British bouts mostly, I would only be interested in a global show where you get to see the best international talent. I know there are some streaming services available, but I really would want something I could record as fights in the USA are usually around 4am, and I'm not staying up to watch those on live services.

 

[ElRaja]

tyson aside, sugar hill has to be one of the most entertaining personalities in boxing

 

[shaz619]

Isn't Bellator the competition where retired UFC fighters compete? I only ever watched one show and it was between Chael Sonnen and Quinton Jackson, both formerly gun fighters who had been beaten out of the cage in UFC, then turned up in Bellator a few years later looking quite a bit heavier and older.

Which channel do you recommend to watch boxing? I know there are some subscription channels on Sky, but they seem to concentrate on British bouts mostly, I would only be interested in a global show where you get to see the best international talent. I know there are some streaming services available, but I really would want something I could record as fights in the USA are usually around 4am, and I'm not staying up to watch those on live services.

Not so sure have not tuned into it, but I assume they are their biggest rivals, if they get big it may limit the monopoly UFC hold over the sport as a whole.

Am in the same boat as you, difficult to stay up now but try youtube right after a fight and especially dailymotion, sometimes the commentary might be in a foreign language but I don’t mind that. I used that for the Taylor/Serrano fight recently, what a tremendous atmosphere and fight, I would actually credit Ronda for inspiring the wave of female athletes breaking into the mainstream but also a big part has been due to allowing women to box at Olympics.

There was also the unification between Stevenson and Valdez, both regarded as the two best at 130

 

[MenInG]

Dillian Whyte has returned "an adverse finding" from a doping test, causing his heavyweight rematch against Anthony Joshua on 12 August to be cancelled.

The Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (Vada) informed promoters Matchroom and boxing authorities of the test result.

"In light of this news, the fight will be cancelled and a full investigation will be conducted," said a Matchroom statement.

A "devastated" Whyte, 35, says he is "completely innocent".

Joshua, 33, could still fight at London's O2 Arena if a new opponent can be found.

"I am shocked and devastated to learn of a report by Vada of adverse findings relating to me," Whyte wrote in a statement released on X, formerly known as Twitter.

"I only learned of it this morning and am still reacting to it.

"I have also just seen that the fight is being cancelled without having any chance to demonstrate my innocence before the decision was taken.

"I can confirm without a shadow of doubt that I have not taken the reported substance, in this camp or at any point in my life.

"I am completely innocent and ask to be given the time to go through the process of proving this without anybody jumping to conclusions or a trial by media."

The fight between Joshua and Whyte, a rematch of their 2015 bout, was announced a month ago.

Joshua knocked out Whyte in the seventh round of their heated British title fight eight years ago, which also took place at the O2, as he avenged a loss to his rival on the amateur circuit.

Whyte, who lost his only world title challenge to Tyson Fury in 2022, beat Joshua by decision as an amateur in 2009 to start what became a bitter rivalry.

Olympic gold medallist Joshua went on to become a two-time world champion.

Joshua gained revenge when the pair met again as professionals in December 2015, being rocked in the second round but recovering to force a stoppage in the seventh.

White had a doping violation charge dropped in 2019 after UK Anti-Doping said the levels of a banned steroid were "very low" and he was not at fault.

He served a two-year suspension from 2012 to 2014 for taking an illegal supplement.

A tribunal accepted Whyte's claim he did not knowingly take methylhexaneamine (MHA) but said he did not do enough to check the supplement's ingredients.

 

[KingKhanWC]

@shaz619 Did you watch Bud Crawford defeat Spence? What a fighter he is ! Power in both hands and a heart of a Lion! Crawford fought well imo but was simply outclassed.