Umar Akmal can wreak havoc on bowling attacks under these English conditions

[sshakir411]

His role is never defined, one game he's batting at 4 and the next at 6.

The management don't know how to get the most of him.

The management don't even know spinners exist so yes the blame goes on the management.

As mentioned before Umar has failed under every management he’s played. Including the super biased Moin Khan who allowed junior to do stuff other players couldn’t (documented in Waqar’s report). Maybe management needs an Ivy League MBA along with supernatural mothering skills to unleash the star in junior. Kya pagalo wali baatein hai.

Fans now want an entire management team and coaches to get the best out of air heads rather than develop processes and methods to turn players in to professionals.

Only in Pakistan would anyone ask this much to get anything valuable out of one player. Maybe Junior is the Michael Jordan of cricket..thankfully this is only believed by a handful of Pakistani fans and not people who have played and are involved with international cricket.

Umar was given everything at Lahore Qalandars including support, confidence, and most importantly the chance to bat at 3. thankfully he repaid them in the same way he has Pakistan Cricket.

 

[Savak]

As mentioned before Umar has failed under every management he’s played. Including the super biased Moin Khan who allowed junior to do stuff other players couldn’t (documented in Waqar’s report). Maybe management needs an Ivy League MBA along with supernatural mothering skills to unleash the star in junior. Kya pagalo wali baatein hai.

Fans now want an entire management team and coaches to get the best out of air heads rather than develop processes and methods to turn players in to professionals.

Only in Pakistan would anyone ask this much to get anything valuable out of one player. Maybe Junior is the Michael Jordan of cricket..thankfully this is only believed by a handful of Pakistani fans and not people who have played and are involved with international cricket.

Umar was given everything at Lahore Qalandars including support, confidence, and most importantly the chance to bat at 3. thankfully he repaid them in the same way he has Pakistan Cricket.

Umar Akmal showed the middle finger to the LQ's with his performances at QG. He was better off without that mismanaged team.

 

[sshakir411]

Umar Akmal showed the middle finger to the LQ's with his performances at QG. He was better off without that mismanaged team.

1 year to 3 years is not a reasonable comparison. Let’s not forget Umar showed everyone the middle finger in the first PSL. Turns out that was a fluke..

Also what a great middle finger junior showed by not even making the top 5 run scorers for PSL 4. He improved but that’s just not good enough from someone touted to be Pakistani Viv Richards

 

[sshakir411]

Junior fans say he showed LQ the middle finger with QG in PSL 4 yet he didn’t even get close to the number of runs he scored in PSL 1. Bas kardo besharmo

 

[Chokli]

As mentioned before Umar has failed under every management he’s played. Including the super biased Moin Khan who allowed junior to do stuff other players couldn’t (documented in Waqar’s report). Maybe management needs an Ivy League MBA along with supernatural mothering skills to unleash the star in junior. Kya pagalo wali baatein hai.

That's because every management he's played under has been incompetent and don't want to go the extra mile to get maximum output from a player. No, they need basic man management skills which they don't have.

Fans now want an entire management team and coaches to get the best out of air heads rather than develop processes and methods to turn players in to professionals.

When the air head is one of the best strikers of the cricket ball in Pakistan Cricket's history then yes, they need to do whatever they can to maximize the benefit for Pakistan Cricket.

Only in Pakistan would anyone ask this much to get anything valuable out of one player. Maybe Junior is the Michael Jordan of cricket..thankfully this is only believed by a handful of Pakistani fans and not people who have played and are involved with international cricket.

It's one of the reasons why Pakistan Cricket is at it's lowest, poor man management skills, not making the most of what is given to you. We might have someone better than Umar Akmal waiting in the wings but if the proper think tank isn't in place and isn't fit enough to utilize that talent then we're back to square one because that other talent will never see the light of day because of pathetic management.

Umar was given everything at Lahore Qalandars including support, confidence, and most importantly the chance to bat at 3. thankfully he repaid them in the same way he has Pakistan Cricket.

Conveniently ignored his Quetta Gladiators run, nice.

 

[Markhor]

No... Shaoib's attitude was managed by people who knew a little bit man management skilled.

Man management isn't allowing someone to get away with murder ! No professional board would've kept recalling Akhtar after a drugs offence, ball tampering, pushing his coach (Woolmer), breaking curfews and hitting teammate with bat.

If I was running the team, I would take cricket skills of Umar with the attitude 10 times over a very humble poorly performing Malik!

Why this false choice of either it's Akmal or Malik ? Asif Ali should replace Malik who I'm a massive critic of, not Umar Akmal who hasn't demonstrated these cricket skills after multiple failed recalls. [MENTION=139975]The_Odd_One[/MENTION] has superbly broken down Umar's awful numbers in ODIs. Asif Ali should

Poor dicipline is a relative term.
Mushtaq/Waqar/Wasim were arrested smoking pot on a beach in West Indies. Guess what? They returned to the team.
Again, you punish/dicipline the player/employee but kicking them out is management failure.

It was wrong then and it's wrong now. The board never properly punished them hence why that 90s teams underachieved due to lack of discipline and work ethic.

Same way Umar Akmal, undeniably a talented player, has never maximised his potential. If you keep tolerating indiscipline, not only is it bad for the team but bad for the player who never learns that there's consequences for his actions.

How do we know Waqar did not have personal vandetta agains Umar Akmal?

Mudassar Nazar, the Leicestershire coaches who interacted with him, Brendon McCullum, Waqar Younis, Mickey Arthur - they all have vendettas ?

When one needs to do something, one would find a reason. Our own brilliant selector who dropped Umar from the World Cup sqaud on the basis of fitness…… how fit he was in his playing day?

Again it wasn't right then and it isn't right now.

What would you say about the fitness of Abid Ali and Harris Sohail?

They at least passed the fitness test which Akmal has failed to do multiple occasions, and also are performing with the bat. Where are Umar's performances for Pakistan since 2015 ?

27? That is still 10 runs BETTER than Malik’s average under Misbah…… Malik averaged 17.76 in 24 ODIs including minnows under Misbah!!! Yet, he was picked right after Misbah retired…. And still is in the team after many recent failures. Why? It all boils down to personal likes and dislikes … and having vested interests.

I am not making any defence for Shoaib Malik. Asif Ali, not Umar Akmal, should replace Malik in WC squad.

 

[Usman Chadda]

The best thing to happen to Umar Akmal was him getting dropped from the team. That has allowed his fans to build him up as this mythical beast, capable of conquering all and sundry.

In all seriousness, we forget that he was even more hated than Sarfraz is right now, when he was part of the team. Pretty much every defeat ended up being linked to a nonsensical shot from Junior boy.

 

[sshakir411]

That's because every management he's played under has been incompetent and don't want to go the extra mile to get maximum output from a player. No, they need basic man management skills which they don't have.



When the air head is one of the best strikers of the cricket ball in Pakistan Cricket's history then yes, they need to do whatever they can to maximize the benefit for Pakistan Cricket.



It's one of the reasons why Pakistan Cricket is at it's lowest, poor man management skills, not making the most of what is given to you. We might have someone better than Umar Akmal waiting in the wings but if the proper think tank isn't in place and isn't fit enough to utilize that talent then we're back to square one because that other talent will never see the light of day because of pathetic management.



Conveniently ignored his Quetta Gladiators run, nice.

Are we suffering from selective reading? Let’s forget working on the entire team and get a specialist mother for one player because he is the best striker of the ball from Pakistan ever.

Kya pagalo ki duniya hai. Allah reham karay

 

[Ami]

Haha...
very funny.

 

[Chokli]

Are we suffering from selective reading? Let’s forget working on the entire team and get a specialist mother for one player because he is the best striker of the ball from Pakistan ever.

Kya pagalo ki duniya hai. Allah reham karay

Pakistan Cricket is nearly finished, when you have talent at hand you need to make full use of it.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Umar Akmal's excellent 93 off 49 balls for Omar Associates versus Pakistan Air Force in the Corporate T20 Cup <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/O4AUxePYYI">pic.twitter.com/O4AUxePYYI</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1128749228002557958?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[sshakir411]

Pakistan Cricket is nearly finished, when you have talent at hand you need to make full use of it.

If we need to provide every player with a special coach that gives them special attention..then it’s time to let Pakistan cricket die my friend.

 

[Hawkeye]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Umar Akmal's excellent 93 off 49 balls for Omar Associates versus Pakistan Air Force in the Corporate T20 Cup <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/O4AUxePYYI">pic.twitter.com/O4AUxePYYI</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1128749228002557958?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow wow wow.

This stuff is beyond ANYONE'S capability in the current squad.

Mickey, Inzi, are you watching?!

 

[Chokli]

If we need to provide every player with a special coach that gives them special attention..then it’s time to let Pakistan cricket die my friend.

Nobody said to provide every player with a special coach.

It's basic man management skills required to handle individuals like Umar.

 

[CricketDon]

If asif and imam can score. Umar Akmal would blast through. Perfect mad pitches and pace. He’d explode.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

We lack the kind of batsmen who can take apart bowling attacks, especially the pacers.

The ones who can do that are very rare.

Umar Akmal
Sharjeel
Asif Ali

Asif will be in the world cup squad, most likely. Not certain.

But, we badly need one more. Umar Akmal is the perfect choice for these pitches. He's in hot form and just won his team the premier one day domestic tournament.

Mickey Arthur needs to set aside his ego and pick Umar, who can be our Butler. There's still time. We need to think and act fast.

It does not matter how easy the pitch is Umar Akmal will do an 'Umar Akmal'. He will do something silly and get out. He always had the talent but He does not have the brains to play a long innings. Just like he failed in 2015 & 2011. We don't need him.

 

[Cric1234]

If the coach is flexible enough he can add Akmal into the squad the strategy of having steady accumulators in the top order will backfire due to the pitches being flat.

 

[Usman Chadda]

If the coach is flexible enough he can add Akmal into the squad the strategy of having steady accumulators in the top order will backfire due to the pitches being flat.

These steady accumulators have scored two 350+ scores in this series thus far. We're doing okay on that front so far. Hafeez coming back will strengthen this batting line-up more-so.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Our batting has done just fine in the 2 matches they've fully played. The main concern we have is our bowling.

 

[Cric1234]

These steady accumulators have scored two 350+ scores in this series thus far. We're doing okay on that front so far. Hafeez coming back will strengthen this batting line-up more-so.

The 350 they scored is similar to 250 in the past its being chased with ease the fans are getting happy with losing scores.

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

He has had a plethora of chances.

He cannot wreak anything except the team chemistry and wicket going down quickly.

How many chances does everyone need to see before they move on.

He struggles to score 30 because he is so gung ho half the time, and he is extremely unfit and selfish.

 

[Usman Chadda]

The 350 they scored is similar to 250 in the past its being chased with ease the fans are getting happy with losing scores.

Scores of 361 and 358 are more than good enough, provided your bowlers use their brain just a little bit. When was the last time our batting made such scores in consecutive games? Pakistani fans are getting greedy here.

 

[Hasan123]

I would take him over Malik and Sarfraz but him not being selected isn't something I'm too upset over . OP is saying he could do damage, he is more likely to play sloppy shot after getting to 30.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Batting scores 361 and 358 in consecutive games, while the bowling poo-poohs all over the place. PPers proceed to demand Umar Akmal back in the team

 

[sshakir411]

Nobody said to provide every player with a special coach.

It's basic man management skills required to handle individuals like Umar.

There can only be one coach. And why don’t other players get this kind of a special coach who will work tirelessly to get the best out of them? Also - can you explain why Junior failed when he was treated like a prince he is by Moin Khan?

Waqar is incompetent. Mickey is incompetent. Mudassar Nazar is incompetent. Intikhab is incompetent. Grant Flower is incompetent. Dav Whatmore is incompetent. Inzi is incompetent. Brendon McCullum is incompetent. Misbah is incompetent. Junior is not.

I hope you see the logic here.

 

[sshakir411]

Afridi is blamed for having a total inability read the game situation....and yet, ended up playing 500 plus matches for Pakistan.

There is animal called "playing your natural game". Bob Woolmer is on the record for tell Afridi to play his natural game - regardless of the match situation. Which he and ended up winning close to 50 Man of the match award.

Now ... just for the argument sake:
If being able to read the game and play accordingly then nobody was biggest failure than Misbah on ODI when he was the captain because he could score at a decent S/R even if his life depended on it. Keep in mind, this hit a world record 52 ball 100 in test matches!




If you are talking about Umar's attitude.... then it was/is a complete failure of the management. I don't know, if you are a student or work in a professional environment.... but if you do work in a professional environment, then you see will that a manager has to deal with the different personalities..... from very difficult ones to very easy going ones. A good manager handles everybody with his/her managerial skills. Nobody just fires a brilliant worker based on his attitude.... 9 out of 10 times workers are fired based on their skills no because of their attributed!

Shoaib Akhtar had the worst attitude during his playing days. Somehow captains, coaches and selectors dealt with him.

But .... unfortunately Umar Akmal is not the first and will not be last player whose career is destroyed based on pathetic management skills.

Your statements are not true. I don’t know which part of the world you work in but in the US and the corporate world especially at the top level..if you don’t deliver you are not wanted. Regardless of how your boss is and whether you get along with your coworkers. In the real world you’re dropped when you’re not valuable and no one holds your hand or puts their shoulder around you.

Afridi vs Junior is such a horrible comparison. Afridi throughout his career won you games. Sometimes from positions no one expected to. With both bat and ball. He won you the damn WT20 WC. Junior has not won you more than a handful games. Junior has never come close to delivering performances like Afridi in the 10 years he has played.

 

[Chokli]

Umar Akmal is the difference between 420 and 350. If the current set of players are capable of 358 then players like Umar Akmal, when on-song, are capable of 400+.

Morgan himself said 358 was just about par and he's right since they chased it within 45 overs.

 

[GreenKhan]

That's bonkers, didn't realise Umar Akmal is statistically the best #6 of all time in ODIs for Pakistan. I think he should be in the WC squad ahead of Malik either way.

An average of 33 is not good ! Also younis khan has a better SR and average than him at 6 . He has the most runs as he has batted the most at 6.

 

[The Viper]

I actually think the batting is doing well. With Asif starting to fire, i don't think he is required.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Umar Akmal is the difference between 420 and 350. If the current set of players are capable of 358 then players like Umar Akmal, when on-song, are capable of 400+.

Morgan himself said 358 was just about par and he's right since they chased it within 45 overs.

Please list the number of times Umar has helped us to scores above 320? His overall ODI SR is as good as Babar Azam's, who we believe should improve on his power hitting

 

[Nikhil_cric]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Umar Akmal's excellent 93 off 49 balls for Omar Associates versus Pakistan Air Force in the Corporate T20 Cup <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/O4AUxePYYI">pic.twitter.com/O4AUxePYYI</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1128749228002557958?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You guys (Mickey and inzi) can't keep me out forever

 

[giri26]

I think he can if he manages to bat more than 25-30 balls in a game. He hardly does that in international cricket any more.

 

[criclove34]

Umar Akmal should be played in top 3 .. ODI he is not utility at 6. He often get out at boundary when you have 2 players at boundaries stats work in favor vs. when you have 5 players on boundary. No innovation from Inzi or Mickey Mouse.

 

[QalandarFan]

Haha this is funny 10 years and 200+ international matches later people still have some weird perception of this guy as the second coming of Viv Richards it's truly funny. )

 

[sshakir411]

Haha this is funny 10 years and 200+ international matches later people still have some weird perception of this guy as the second coming of Viv Richards it's truly funny. )

Umeed par duniya kayam hai dost. Gotta give these guys some points for still having faith.

 

[Chokli]

Please list the number of times Umar has helped us to scores above 320? His overall ODI SR is as good as Babar Azam's, who we believe should improve on his power hitting

That is irrelevant. This line up is more or less the same one that struggled in the Asia Cup and now are scoring 350+, why? Because of the flat pitches, they are probably one of the flattest ever.

Previous stats and records are useless since we've almost never played on flat pitches that frequently.

 

[Usman Chadda]

That is irrelevant. This line up is more or less the same one that struggled in the Asia Cup and now are scoring 350+, why? Because of the flat pitches, they are probably one of the flattest ever.

Previous stats and records are useless since we've almost never played on flat pitches that frequently.

Previous stats and records give a pretty good picture on what's likely to happen in the future. We're talking about a dude who has played considerable amount of matches for Pakistan, and refuses to learn.

This batting line-up does not need Umar Akmal. It needs good bowlers to support it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Umar Akmal's excellent 93 off 49 balls for Omar Associates versus Pakistan Air Force in the Corporate T20 Cup <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/O4AUxePYYI">pic.twitter.com/O4AUxePYYI</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1128749228002557958?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That is the sole reason anyone still gives the time of day to Umar Akmal. He is one of the few Pakistan batsmen who is capable of destroying top bowling attacks.

I understand why his lack of focus angers team management though. Especially since he only delivers match winning performances rarely, he will usually hole out before the real damage is done.

 

[Chokli]

Previous stats and records give a pretty good picture on what's likely to happen in the future. We're talking about a dude who has played considerable amount of matches for Pakistan, and refuses to learn.

This batting line-up does not need Umar Akmal. It needs good bowlers to support it.

Yes and previous stats and records indicated that we struggle to score 250 let alone 350.

He played well in the Pakistan Cup and based on that deserved to go through.

If Fakhar Zaman played a full series in UAE before the Champions Trophy do you think Fakhar Zaman would have been selected?

 

[Pakhs]

I am not sure if UK can even wreak havoc in his own house backyard.

 

[Hawkeye]

Batting scores 361 and 358 in consecutive games, while the bowling poo-poohs all over the place. PPers proceed to demand Umar Akmal back in the team

We're losing matches because we're unable to score good enough runs as per demand of the pitches and grounds.

No, they aren't enough. You're missing the fuller picture.

Why do you think we failed to chase 32 runs in 18 balls?

Why do you think Eng then managed to chase 358 in 45 overs with 6 out, without their main batting firepower yet to come?

We don't have anyone who can win us from even easy chasing positions. At the death pacers attack you, we have no one to even chase 25 in 20 balls mind you.

Only gamble is Asif.

Do not ever think those are good scores in isolation.

 

[topspin]

That is irrelevant. This line up is more or less the same one that struggled in the Asia Cup and now are scoring 350+, why? Because of the flat pitches, they are probably one of the flattest ever.

Previous stats and records are useless since we've almost never played on flat pitches that frequently.

Good response to an absurd question.

This batting line up has one too many accumulators, who are not going to help Pakistan's cause on batting paradise wickets that we're seeing in England. It's better to add firepower to this batting line-up, so the side can enhance their chances of scoring 400+.

In these conditions Umar is more than capable of scoring 50 off 25-30 balls and is in great touch. If we're going to judge him on UAE wickets then you may as well drop Asif Ali as well because his strengths and are synonymous with Umar Akmal i.e. attacking pace bowling on faster wickets (outside Asia).

Asif Ali and Umar Akmal are also very similar because main weakness is against spin bowling, however since these pitches are offering no turn this can be negated as evident from Asif Ali's 2 x 50s in the last two games.

So overall, adding Umar Akmal will reinforce this batting line-up.

 

[Pakhs]

Good response to an absurd question.

This batting line up has one too many accumulators, who are not going to help Pakistan's cause on batting paradise wickets that we're seeing in England. It's better to add firepower to this batting line-up, so the side can enhance their chances of scoring 400+.

In these conditions Umar is more than capable of scoring 50 off 25-30 balls and is in great touch. If we're going to judge him on UAE wickets then you may as well drop Asif Ali as well because his strengths and are synonymous with Umar Akmal i.e. attacking pace bowling on faster wickets (outside Asia).

Asif Ali and Umar Akmal are also very similar because main weakness is against spin bowling, however since these pitches are offering no turn this can be negated as evident from Asif Ali's 2 x 50s in the last two games.

So overall, adding Umar Akmal will reinforce this batting line-up.

You are missing the point thay cant accomdate another asif in the team. Bowling is already struggling.

 

[Titan24]

I am not saying Umar should be in the team or not but those talking about his stats and comparing his SR to Babar and others should realize that Umar played most of career matches between 2009 to 2015 and even if you guys take into account the SR and avgs of 2015 let alone before that than you will realize that cricket has changed a lot in recent times.

Players like Buttler and Maxwell who are playing with the Strike rates of around 120 now were not exactly the beasts in 2012-15. It took Buttler two years after his debut in 2012 to score his first century.

Wickets are more flatter than ever in LOIs and there are two new balls at both ends. My point is LOI cricket has changed a lot in recent times so judging record of Umar Akmal from previous years might not exactly show the whole truth.

 

[Titan24]

You are missing the point thay cant accomdate another asif in the team. Bowling is already struggling.

If there would have been one more guy who could have played the way Asif did against Eng in both the matches, we might have won the first match and could have scored around 400 in 2nd. Again not saying it has to be Umar Akmal but there arent many options. Fakhar, Umar, Hafeez, Iftikhar and Khushdil Shah are the only ones at the moment I can think of who can score 25-35 balls 50 on their day.

 

[Pakhs]

If there would have been one more guy who could have played the way Asif did against Eng in both the matches, we might have won the first match and could have scored around 400 in 2nd. Again not saying it has to be Umar Akmal but there arent many options. Fakhar, Umar, Hafeez, Iftikhar and Khushdil Shah are the only ones at the moment I can think of who can score 25-35 balls 50 on their day.

who would you take out from the current team?

 

[Titan24]

who would you take out from the current team?

Would be a tough call just like dropping Abid is but for the sake of the team you have to make those. In my opinion Malik, his record has been mediocre for sometime now and he doesnt fare well in Eng as well. Also in recent times he didnt look much interested in cricket even when he was captaining.

 

[Pakhs]

Would be a tough call just like dropping Abid is but for the sake of the team you have to make those. In my opinion Malik, his record has been mediocre for sometime now and he doesnt fare well in Eng as well. Also in recent times he didnt look much interested in cricket even when he was captaining.

He hasnt played a game yet anyway and you really think UK is more consistent than Malik? if that was the case he would not have been dropped in the first place.

 

[Mp812]

Every team needs one maverick player..some one who can throw caution to winds and hit 5-8 sixes in space of 3 to 4 overs. Umar akmal is the man and he should have been opener.

 

[Chokli]

He hasnt played a game yet anyway and you really think UK is more consistent than Malik? if that was the case he would not have been dropped in the first place.

Malik is in for reasons other than performance.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Yes and previous stats and records indicated that we struggle to score 250 let alone 350.

He played well in the Pakistan Cup and based on that deserved to go through.

If Fakhar Zaman played a full series in UAE before the Champions Trophy do you think Fakhar Zaman would have been selected?

Fakhar took his chances, Umar didn't. Umar's numbers have been posted in this thread before. Your argument is based on what he MIGHT do, rather than what he has shown the ability to do in international cricket.

It's evident most of you here are intent on bringing in absurd arguments to defend Junior. It's time we forget about this lad.

 

[Savak]

This thread is pointless. I guarantee it that Umar Akmal will be back after the WC

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He hasnt played a game yet anyway and you really think UK is more consistent than Malik? if that was the case he would not have been dropped in the first place.

Malik doesn't have anywhere near the range of shots that Umar does. Malik is like most other Pakistan batsmen, limited strokeplay means while the side comprises these sort of players we will bat nicely for 40 overs then fail in the death overs every time.

With someone like Umar, it is more than likely he will fail through stupidity, but while he's there you would have some HOPE that he could hit the winning runs.

 

[Chokli]

Fakhar took his chances, Umar didn't. Umar's numbers have been posted in this thread before. Your argument is based on what he MIGHT do, rather than what he has shown the ability to do in international cricket.

It's evident most of you here are intent on bringing in absurd arguments to defend Junior. It's time we forget about this lad.

Fakhar took his chances on the pitches of England, he was absolutely awful in UAE until the NZ series.

 

[topspin]

Fakhar took his chances on the pitches of England, he was absolutely awful in UAE until the NZ series.

Yep and just prior to the CT, posters were screeching of "he looks like a tail-ender", when he was struggling on sluggish WI pitches in the T20Is he played there.

 

[in_cutter]

We lack the kind of batsmen who can take apart bowling attacks, especially the pacers.

The ones who can do that are very rare.

Umar Akmal
Sharjeel
Asif Ali

Asif will be in the world cup squad, most likely. Not certain.

But, we badly need one more. Umar Akmal is the perfect choice for these pitches. He's in hot form and just won his team the premier one day domestic tournament.

Mickey Arthur needs to set aside his ego and pick Umar, who can be our Butler. There's still time. We need to think and act fast.

Another day, another Akmal thread.

The guy is a serial flop.
Let it go.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Fakhar took his chances on the pitches of England, he was absolutely awful in UAE until the NZ series.

Has Umar never played outside the UAE?

 

[Titan24]

He hasnt played a game yet anyway and you really think UK is more consistent than Malik? if that was the case he would not have been dropped in the first place.

We have found decent consistency in the top 3 which is enough with the consistency thing as they are the ones who are gonna score main runs for any team, its the rest of the overs and runs which define if we score par score or above par. For that above par total you need players in the middle order and lower middle order who can dominate the opposition bowlers.

With Sarfaraz and Malik in the middle and considering Haris (Who is extraordinary player but doesnt have big shots just like Babar and Imam) plays 2 down we can never score above par as none of them can score 25-35 balls 50 even on their best days. So if your top 3-4 plays upto 35 overs which they have been doing since Aus series then you dont need 60 balls 50 runs players after that especially when 3 batsmen out of your top 4 dont have the ability to accelerate much even if they are on the crease.

Also Umer played 5 games in UAE after years of exile, thats not enough to judge any player especially when the likes of Faheem and co are being give 2-3 years do something impressive so that Mickey and Inzi can be proved right. Umer's past consistency before 2015 is totally different in current era's context as 50 overs cricket isnt the same anymore for number of factors, still he averages almost same as Malik.

Again it doesnt necessary have to be Umar but we need players in the team who can play modern day cricket and we have to utilize whatever options we have.

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

Nahh .. we need Shahid Afridi to come out of retirement .These pitches are tailor made for him.The guy is a 6 hitting machine. Little Akmal got nothing of Pathan powaa

 

[The Viper]

UA would be schooled by any half decent spinner.

 

[Pete Rose]

The fact that this thread is over two pages lead me to believe that its a series of posters just typing in hahahahaha.

But i guess i was wrong.

There are ppl that believe the pyramids were made by aliens, so I guess this is not that out there.

 

[Pakhs]

We have found decent consistency in the top 3 which is enough with the consistency thing as they are the ones who are gonna score main runs for any team, its the rest of the overs and runs which define if we score par score or above par. For that above par total you need players in the middle order and lower middle order who can dominate the opposition bowlers.

With Sarfaraz and Malik in the middle and considering Haris (Who is extraordinary player but doesnt have big shots just like Babar and Imam) plays 2 down we can never score above par as none of them can score 25-35 balls 50 even on their best days. So if your top 3-4 plays upto 35 overs which they have been doing since Aus series then you dont need 60 balls 50 runs players after that especially when 3 batsmen out of your top 4 dont have the ability to accelerate much even if they are on the crease.

Also Umer played 5 games in UAE after years of exile, thats not enough to judge any player especially when the likes of Faheem and co are being give 2-3 years do something impressive so that Mickey and Inzi can be proved right. Umer's past consistency before 2015 is totally different in current era's context as 50 overs cricket isnt the same anymore for number of factors, still he averages almost same as Malik.

Again it doesnt necessary have to be Umar but we need players in the team who can play modern day cricket and we have to utilize whatever options we have.

the problem with UK is he is pure batsmen who just doesnt score enough, He has had many chances on various wicket. He couldnt do nothing in last WC on good Australian wickets.

 

[Pakhs]

Malik doesn't have anywhere near the range of shots that Umar does. Malik is like most other Pakistan batsmen, limited strokeplay means while the side comprises these sort of players we will bat nicely for 40 overs then fail in the death overs every time.

With someone like Umar, it is more than likely he will fail through stupidity, but while he's there you would have some HOPE that he could hit the winning runs.

I am not sure UK is an option anymore he was good for the first two years of his career only.

 

[Titan24]

the problem with UK is he is pure batsmen who just doesnt score enough, He has had many chances on various wicket. He couldnt do nothing in last WC on good Australian wickets.

Yes I agree he hasnt done anything exceptional in his career but again I would put forward the same point that he played his last T20 in 2014, last test in 2011 and last ODI before this Australian series back in 2017 which was only for 5 matches. Thats 4-5 years for you where LOI cricket has changed significantly which you can confirm by checking 50+ avg batsmen and 100+ SR batsmen post 2015 and pre 2015.

Many who have played in recent times havent done anything to win Pak much either whether its Malik, Sarfaraz etc.

Below are his year by year performances, now tell me are his performances really as bad as some people portray except maybe in 2015?

 

[Chokli]

Has Umar never played outside the UAE?

Were the pitches as flat as they are now when he did play outside the UAE?

 

[Hawkeye]

Every team needs one maverick player..some one who can throw caution to winds and hit 5-8 sixes in space of 3 to 4 overs. Umar akmal is the man and he should have been opener.

Yes I agree he hasnt done anything exceptional in his career but again I would put forward the same point that he played his last T20 in 2014, last test in 2011 and last ODI before this Australian series back in 2017 which was only for 5 matches. Thats 4-5 years for you where LOI cricket has changed significantly which you can confirm by checking 50+ avg batsmen and 100+ SR batsmen post 2015 and pre 2015.

Many who have played in recent times havent done anything to win Pak much either whether its Malik, Sarfaraz etc.

Below are his year by year performances, now tell me are his performances really as bad as some people portray except maybe in 2015?

View attachment 91324

Dude you're on a roll.

Another great post, those against Umars inclusion should read this with an open mind and hopefully they will see the light.

Another potw for this.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Were the pitches as flat as they are now when he did play outside the UAE?

I give up

 

[Chokli]

I give up

Which is why Umar Akmal or even Khushdil Shah are definitely needed to push that 350 to 400.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Which is why Umar Akmal or even Khushdil Shah are definitely needed to push that 350 to 400.

I really hope Umar repays the faith of each and every one of you supporting him. Maybe some day he might have a growth spurt in his brain, and become the player many expected him to be by now.

 

[Chokli]

I really hope Umar repays the faith of each and every one of you supporting him. Maybe some day he might have a growth spurt in his brain, and become the player many expected him to be by now.

He made a huge blunder by not taking wicket-keeping seriously.

 

[Pakhs]

Yes I agree he hasnt done anything exceptional in his career but again I would put forward the same point that he played his last T20 in 2014, last test in 2011 and last ODI before this Australian series back in 2017 which was only for 5 matches. Thats 4-5 years for you where LOI cricket has changed significantly which you can confirm by checking 50+ avg batsmen and 100+ SR batsmen post 2015 and pre 2015.

Many who have played in recent times havent done anything to win Pak much either whether its Malik, Sarfaraz etc.

Below are his year by year performances, now tell me are his performances really as bad as some people portray except maybe in 2015?

View attachment 91324

Well its clear from stats that his average and strike rate has been on a decline. Also for a pure batsman he is just not consistent enough. Sarfraz is CT wining captain and also played that knock against Srilanka which got us through that critical game.

Malik also was consistently scoring for a little while when he cemented his place in the team again but recently he has gone down hill probably due to age catching up with him. I still think Malik has the brains to play an odd critical innings and not throw it away like he did against Afghanistan for example. UK could be an addition but I can see who to kick out from the 11 considering even Hafeez and Malik are currently not in the team.

 

[Hawkeye]

There's still time.

May 23!

Bring Umar Akmal to have a chance at the World Cup.

OR, we're going to suffer with Imad Wasim, Sarfraz and Malik in the middle!!!

 

[Badsha]

I'd take him over Malik any day

 

[OmaIR1]

Umar Akmal is all talk and no walk.

He's always showed promising performances but fails at the international stage.

 

[Slog]

Lets do a [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] here and play a little game called what Umar Akmal would have scored in the 3 ODIs so far (first washed out):

I’d say:

55(35)
80(50)
30(18)

 

[Rana]

He would be a much more useful keeper Batsman than Sarfaraz.

Make Hassan Ali captain instead

 

[Syed1]

Umar Akmal is all talk and no walk.

He's always showed promising performances but fails at the international stage.

You have to understand walking is a tad stressful when you are so pudgy

 

[Plumb]

The kind of ifs and buts we give Umar Akmal... Good lord we really make him looks like second coming of Bradman... Just how pathetic UA is his fans are right behind him...

Even though time and time again he has proved himself to be a loser still we comeup with "if he was here he would have scored tons of runs"

 

[Abdullah719]

Umar Akmal LBW to Musa in the semi-final of the Corporate T20 Cup for a low score.

Out caught slogging off Sohail Khan in the final after making a massive 4 (2).

Pity there weren't more club level attacks for him to face in the important matches

 

[Cric1234]

Umar Akmal LBW to Musa in the semi-final of the Corporate T20 Cup for a low score.

Out caught slogging off Sohail Khan in the final after making a massive 4 (2).

Pity there weren't more club level attacks for him to face in the important matches

Highest scorer in Pak cup with best strike rate top scorer in Quaid e Azam trophy final.