Umar Akmal's Last 21 ODI innings

[JibranAnsari]

That's after his 102 against Afghanistan

4
14*
59
15
1
7
46
5
0
29
6
13
4
0
59
33
19
13
20
20*
17

A total of 384 runs @ 20.21 average and SR of 82.


I don't know how exactly did he make it back in the ODI team.

 

[Slog]

poor thread

he was dropped after the poor long runs of low scores

he is making a comeback

so to put him down using previous low scores for which he has already been dropped, doesnt make sense

 

[BDwarriors]

Base on domestic performance

 

[MRSN]

What this thread is missing is he was dropped twice during these 21 games. One time to accommodate Asad and YK in the ODI squad and other time he was the scapegoat of 2015 world cup.

 

[Slog]

What this thread is missing is he was dropped twice during these 21 games. One time to accommodate Asad and YK in the ODI squad and other time he was the scapegoat of 2015 world cup.

lol at scapegoat

he was deservedly dropped

 

[JibranAnsari]

poor thread

he was dropped after the poor long runs of low scores

he is making a comeback

so to put him down using previous low scores for which he has already been dropped, doesnt make sense

H=I was wondering how did he make his comeback? No real performances after he was dropped. He evaded Quaide azam trophy , failed in BPL and didn't play the OD domestic cup.

 

[MRSN]

to OP, I'm not defending his failure today but let's wait and see. Let the series get over. You have your knives out too early. It is his first game since 2015 world cup. You do know how Umar Akmal's replacement [Rizwan] was playing the likes of Starc and co?

 

[Shafi]

Because of good connection

 

[saabir]

He paid the price for that performances. He was dropped twice or thrice & was replaced with the players like Rizwan, Asad, YK who even had worse games. Now he is making comeback at least should be given a run to see if he can improve

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Bashing employer and crying for chance cannot make anyone ATG (which he thinks of himself).

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Umar last played a match in 2015 world cup and now you expect a miracle from him? Poor thread bashing a talent. What has Babar done? Give Umar the same amount of chances as Babar, if Umar had enough practice and faced Hazlewood and Starc in Test, he would have chased down this total.

In 3 Match test series, Umar could have got 6 chances and this practice was necessary for the ODIS. Management needs to think about the future and stop giving free trips to oldies like Misbah and

 

[JibranAnsari]

to OP, I'm not defending his failure today but let's wait and see. Let the series get over. You have your knives out too early. It is his first game since 2015 world cup. You do know how Umar Akmal's replacement [Rizwan] was playing the likes of Starc and co?

I am pretty sure that's it for him for the series , I am not blaming Umar Akmal he is never going to change. I am blaming the selectors for selecting him without any efforts or say successful efforts to make a comeback. Usually players perform in domestic to win back their place , he evaded the Quaide azam trophy failed in BPL and didn't play the OD domestic cup. How the hell did he make the comeback on back of only poor performances.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Umar last played a match in 2015 world cup and now you expect a miracle from him? Poor thread bashing a talent. What has Babar done? Give Umar the same amount of chances as Babar, if Umar had enough practice and faced Hazlewood and Starc in Test, he would have chased down this total.

In 3 Match test series, Umar could have got 6 chances and this practice was necessary for the ODIS. Management needs to think about the future and stop giving free trips to oldies like Misbah and

Thanks for poor trolling , moving on.

 

[Jabo]

He's just back in the side, give him a chance.

He's got another 4 games to perform.

Still, I'd rather have Akmal over Shafiq/Rizwan

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Thanks for poor trolling , moving on.

What do you have against Umar Akmal? Hafeez, Sahrjeel, Nawaz + Azam, everyone failed. Why attacking Umar only?

 

[MRSN]

I am pretty sure that's it for him for the series , I am not blaming Umar Akmal he is never going to change. I am blaming the selectors for selecting him without any efforts or say successful efforts to make a comeback. Usually players perform in domestic to win back their place , he evaded the Quaide azam trophy failed in BPL and didn't play the OD domestic cup. How the hell did he make the comeback on back of only poor performances.

The guy has a batting average of 35 with a strike rate of 84 and has batted majority of his career at six. Tell me names of those outstanding ODI batting stars that are waiting to replace Umar Akmal? We have clearly seen the latest replacements Rizwan has no future to survive in ODIs unless we want to be looked as a joke of an ODI team. We lost 3-0 against BD,thrashed by Eng and Umar Akmal wasn't part of those teams.

if we really had an outstanding talent coming through then Hafeez would not have got to play straight away replacing Malik and displacing Baber at 3. Hafeez wouldn't have been called,Junaid,Irfan, would not have made comebacks at this age as fast bowlers and Salman Butt wouldn't have been knocking the door.

The sooner you accept that you have a pathetic system that is producing cricketers like Rizwan who are totally misfit for modern ODI games, the better. To produce a good test batsman in this age is easy..but to produce a good modern day ODI batsman is really really hard. That is why it is key for Pakistan's ODI success in future that we presist with guys like Sharjeel,Umar,Baber...these guys need to be supported.

 

[MRSN]

He's just back in the side, give him a chance.

He's got another 4 games to perform.

Still, I'd rather have Akmal over Shafiq/Rizwan

oh, I forgot to add that a guy who average in low 20s after playing 60 ODIs with a strike rate in 60 has also made a comeback in the ODI squad. why not drop a guy who average 35 with 84 strike rate for this legend. great thinking.

 

[JibranAnsari]

What do you have against Umar Akmal? Hafeez, Sahrjeel, Nawaz + Azam, everyone failed. Why attacking Umar only?

Its not one game , usually when players are dropped they go out in domestic and perform to secure their place back. Umar failed in domestic cricket also. Latest being the complete failure in your very own BPL. My question is after being dropped for poor performance in internationals how did he get his place back without performing in domestic cricket. He evaded pakistans premier FC tournament to play BPL and was a complete failure there too. I am asking questions to the selectors that on what basis is he back?

Azams last three innings before today were all hundreds.

How does a player who gets dropped for poor performance makes it back in the team performing poorly in domestic , I don't know why doesn't anyone find it odd.

 

[JibranAnsari]

The guy has a batting average of 35 with a strike rate of 84 and has batted majority of his career at six. Tell me names of those outstanding ODI batting stars that are waiting to replace Umar Akmal? We have clearly seen the latest replacements Rizwan has no future to survive in ODIs unless we want to be looked as a joke of an ODI team. We lost 3-0 against BD,thrashed by Eng and Umar Akmal wasn't part of those teams.

if we really had an outstanding talent coming through then Hafeez would not have got to play straight away replacing Malik and displacing Baber at 3. Hafeez wouldn't have been called,Junaid,Irfan, would not have made comebacks at this age as fast bowlers and Salman Butt wouldn't have been knocking the door.

The sooner you accept that you have a pathetic system that is producing cricketers like Rizwan who are totally misfit for modern ODI games, the better. To produce a good test batsman in this age is easy..but to produce a good modern day ODI batsman is really really hard. That is why it is key for Pakistan's ODI success in future that we presist with guys like Sharjeel,Umar,Baber...these guys need to be supported.

The figures are from distant past , once when he used to be a batsman. Now he is a complete failure , and guess what he is back based on failures in domestic cricket too. He is not a modern odi batsman , he is a failure.

 

[Speedster777]

Time to find replacements for these TTFs

 

[Hamza_]

Umar Akmal is a TTF. Time to get in new guys, He is a failure and should be out for good. He is a veteran of 100+ ODIs, And yet his performance is shameful

 

[itsme]

He comeback because pak need explosive bats and apart of sharjeel and him there aren't many.

 

[ads101]

The guy has a batting average of 35 with a strike rate of 84 and has batted majority of his career at six. Tell me names of those outstanding ODI batting stars that are waiting to replace Umar Akmal? We have clearly seen the latest replacements Rizwan has no future to survive in ODIs unless we want to be looked as a joke of an ODI team. We lost 3-0 against BD,thrashed by Eng and Umar Akmal wasn't part of those teams.

if we really had an outstanding talent coming through then Hafeez would not have got to play straight away replacing Malik and displacing Baber at 3. Hafeez wouldn't have been called,Junaid,Irfan, would not have made comebacks at this age as fast bowlers and Salman Butt wouldn't have been knocking the door.

The sooner you accept that you have a pathetic system that is producing cricketers like Rizwan who are totally misfit for modern ODI games, the better. To produce a good test batsman in this age is easy..but to produce a good modern day ODI batsman is really really hard. That is why it is key for Pakistan's ODI success in future that we presist with guys like Sharjeel,Umar,Baber...these guys need to be supported.

Kind of agree with this. I'm not big fan of Sharjeel in particular, but think we have limited amounts of these sort of players so we don't really have any choice to persist with them and take a gamble despite their misgivings (mostly talking about umar and Sharjeel, Babar's fine). Why I'm kind of tempted to play Sarfraz up the order when he plays too (I know he can't play for this series) as while he is wicketkeeper and should probably bat below the so called specialist batsmen, he's better than all/most of them and plays in the modern way.Better for him to set the impact of the game/give him a bigger chance to contribute.

 

[Statsman]

He needs backing and support of management. Also protein shakes for energy.

 

[Salman]

Well someone had to take the "way way overrated player" spot since Afridi left a void our the selection.

 

[Kakar]

He has played just one game in over an year. This thread does not make any sense.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Let's judge his current performance after 3-4 Odi innings.

We all know his performances have been below par in last 2-3 years and overall aswell.

 

[super hitter]

so people criticizing the OP cuz Umar was dropped twice...

but when it comes to Malik....then forget the drops man...go n get records for the past 7 years.

 

[Abid Z]

Its not one game , usually when players are dropped they go out in domestic and perform to secure their place back. Umar failed in domestic cricket also. Latest being the complete failure in your very own BPL. My question is after being dropped for poor performance in internationals how did he get his place back without performing in domestic cricket. He evaded pakistans premier FC tournament to play BPL and was a complete failure there too. I am asking questions to the selectors that on what basis is he back?

Azams last three innings before today were all hundreds.

How does a player who gets dropped for poor performance makes it back in the team performing poorly in domestic , I don't know why doesn't anyone find it odd.

I think you are asking the right question. You are not saying that Umar should or shouldn't be there, but asking on what basis have the selectors gone for him over somebody else when his domestic performances of late don't appear to show any marked improvement.

Its a fair question but now that he is there lets see how he shakes off the rust and manages his opportunity. I don't think there are many alternatives to be honest.

Brisbane under lights with Starc and Cummins whistling balls past his ears at 150 kph is about a big a baptism of fire as you can ever get so if he comes through this he would have cemented his place for the future.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I think you are asking the right question. You are not saying that Umar should or shouldn't be there, but asking on what basis have the selectors gone for him over somebody else when his domestic performances of late don't appear to show any marked improvement.

Its a fair question but now that he is there lets see how he shakes off the rust and manages his opportunity. I don't think there are many alternatives to be honest.

Brisbane under lights with Starc and Cummins whistling balls past his ears at 150 kph is about a big a baptism of fire as you can ever get so if he comes through this he would have cemented his place for the future.

He looks worse that the last time he played an ODI game , ok fair enough that is back given the reason that supposedly we assume that there are no alternatives. Did you look at his approach towards the innings , Blocked a few and then slogged a few? That's how one bats after earning his place back? What's changed ? If we want the same umar akmal what was the need to drop him at the first place. There wont be any baptism of fire , ODI pitches and conditions are largely batting friendly. A question though , what will we consider a success? A couple of 30s in the next 4 games? Should they be enough to keep him in the side?

 

[Abid Z]

He looks worse that the last time he played an ODI game , ok fair enough that is back given the reason that supposedly we assume that there are no alternatives. Did you look at his approach towards the innings , Blocked a few and then slogged a few? That's how one bats after earning his place back? What's changed ? If we want the same umar akmal what was the need to drop him at the first place. There wont be any baptism of fire , ODI pitches and conditions are largely batting friendly. A question though , what will we consider a success? A couple of 30s in the next 4 games? Should they be enough to keep him in the side?

I'm all for dropping non performing players. I hate merry go rounds of TTF as much as the next person, but in the case of Umar he looks shell shocked. Maybe a new coach will help get the best out of him. Sometimes our players look like frightened rabbits in the headlights. Give him a few games and then assess him. We all know he can play just needs to feel comfortable. But then again its very rare to play oneself into form in Australia.

I honestly dont agree with your assessment that these are batting friendly pitches. Maybe they are batting friendly when Australia bat but when we bat they are green mambas.

 

[Pete Rose]

I think we've got the wrong akmal here for this part of the tour