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Undroppable Asad Shafiq: The only Pakistani to have played 70+ consecutive Test matches!

Scoring in the first innings is more important, match is set up in the first innings

Runs in the fourth innings count when they lead to wins, or save the game. Asad scores runs in the fourth innings in losses :)) He has 746 runs in the 4th innings at a respectable average of 41... 2 of those runs are in wins, 72 in draws with a highest of 41*.
 
Runs in the fourth innings count when they lead to wins, or save the game. Asad scores runs in the fourth innings in losses :)) He has 746 runs in the 4th innings at a respectable average of 41... 2 of those runs are in wins, 72 in draws with a highest of 41*.

How could you miss the small logic that when scoring the runs, you wouldn't know what the result is already. You have to believe the runs will result in win/draw and score. And they are tough runs.
 
He has done enough to keep his place. Showed some courage and guts unlike Azhar and Sarfraz.

Happy to stick with him, but he must bat with the same flamboyance and not go back into his UAE shell.
 
Asad scored more runs than Pujara, Rahane, Rohit, Vijay & Dhawan.


But Yes he needs to improve his consistency. First Test was disaster but he has bounced back quite well.
 
Asad scored more runs than Pujara, Rahane, Rohit, Vijay & Dhawan.


But Yes he needs to improve his consistency. First Test was disaster but he has bounced back quite well.

Did he? His 2 fifties came when the match was lost, his fifties had absolutely no impact on the game
 
Asad scored more runs than Pujara, Rahane, Rohit, Vijay & Dhawan.


But Yes he needs to improve his consistency. First Test was disaster but he has bounced back quite well.

Is he was a newcomer then yes he's done well but he's played 70 tests how many more chances is he going to get setting such standards isn't good for younger batsmen they should aspire to average 50 plus not under 40 and be batsmen like Shafiq.
 
He is not the biggest problem to be honest, and he is probably the best slip catcher these days. The purge should start from top, not from 2nd in command.
 
88 and 65 suggest he did fight it out. Asad has done better than most in this tour.

Broooooo, the guy has been playing for 8 YEARS, and this is all he had to show for?

He’s expected to do better than everyone else since he’s the most experienced player in the side, and scoring 2 50+ in 6 innings is pathetic.
 
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As I said before, there's always bigger fish to fry when it comes to Shafiq. Azhar's career should be over now if the selectors have some sense. We might see Sarfraz removed from Test captaincy. The age old Pakistani selector's mantra of "we need experience" will be heard once again which means Shafiq is gong nowhere. Instead of being dropped people might have to make peace with the fact that Shafiq is our next captain!
 
He wouldn’t even get into Bangladesh xi.

No, he’ll get into most Test XI, including BD & excluding bottom 3. Definitely in SRL, WIN, AUS & SAF team; may be NZ & India as well.

In a 6 batsman combination, he is much better than Shaun Marsh, Bavuma, D Bruyn, probably Hashcomb, Head & Labuschagne as well who played for Australia recently. For NZ, if they play 6 batsmen, he'll definitely make it after Will, Ross, Latham & the lefti guy in middle order - definitely better than Rawal & other batsmen they have played recently. For India, problem is openers - if Pujara opens, he’ll make it in 6 batsmen combination. Even as middle order, he can make it - better spin player than Rahne, better Test batsman than Sharma or Vehari, who might improve later, but not now.

Only left is England - touch and go, because they play Moeen & Stokes as all-rounder; & their loose spots are openers. Still, if Johnny opens, out of 3 middle order, Root & Buttler is definitely better, rest are not conclusive.

Credit where is due. Batting is a collective effort - twice openers left after something on board, he did score. 1st Test, he was clearly underprepared, but since then did well & played some glorious shots. For this PAK line up, he is as important as Tamim for us - have seen enough of PAK’s batting.
 
Broooooo, the guy has been playing for 8 YEARS, and this is all he had to show for?

He’s expected to do better than everyone else since he’s the most experienced player in the side, and scoring 2 50+ in 6 innings is pathetic.

So you expected Asad to blast double centuries? What did beloved Azhar do throughout the tour? Asad fighted it out against a pretty good bowling attack. Whatever people say, Asad is the best technical batsman in our team currently. It's not just the scores but the ease at which he played whenever he got in (the two innings), he made batting look easy.
 
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If anything, Pakistan desperately need to move on from Azhar Ali
 
If he can only translate the innings that he usually plays in the 2nd inning (when we have more or less lost the match) to the 1st inning, it would transform our batting.
 
He has done enough to cement his place in the team for the next series.

Then don't blame broadcasters for buying TV rights for peanuts because they will earn peanuts by telecasting this joke team. No ones gonna watch this team of cronies.

The ones who are angry are still watching it. They might join the rest of the ignoring ones and not tune in again.

I did'nt watch this selfish Shafiq innings after 2nd match. He is the worst parasite in the team.
 
Runs in the fourth innings count when they lead to wins, or save the game. Asad scores runs in the fourth innings in losses :)) He has 746 runs in the 4th innings at a respectable average of 41... 2 of those runs are in wins, 72 in draws with a highest of 41*.

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He has fooled the fans, the selectors and team management once again with his soft runs.

Congratulations to Asad Shafiq for doing it again.
 
How could you miss the small logic that when scoring the runs, you wouldn't know what the result is already. You have to believe the runs will result in win/draw and score. And they are tough runs.

First inning 80 runs in low scoring matches in SA will help a team a lot more than when team is chasing 350-400 runs in 4th inning to win.

It's the same 80 runs. I always believe that most matches are won or lost in first inning, but I see many PPers touting 4th inning average or some other meaningless stats. Score big in first inning and you control the match. Not all the time, but in most cases.
 

Only 5 innings in won or drawn games though. As opposed to 16 in lost games. It's clear that Asad has been the only decent 4th innings player in a team full of chokers. Although the new guys like Imam, Shan and Babar seem to be good under pressure.
 
Asad wont be dropped because of his 88 and 65 and to be fair, his knocks were also pleasing to the eye. There is no way the selectors will not have atleast one experienced batsman in the squad. Azhar Ali however needs to go
 
Asads runs would be much more valuable if he scored them in the first innings when the game is at stake. If he scored his 80 in the first innings, then that would have been a major boost. He always scores when a mammoth target is set that is impossible to chase.
 
I have to say Asad Shafiq is the only Pakistani batsman ever whose runs gave me no pleasure. Its just annoying that he finds a way to score decently once in every 4 innings.
 
Congratulations for booking his spot for next series.
 
Given his lack of ambition, he will be happy to be not not out here
 
How does one hold Shafiq accountable for his mediocrity when his captain has been downright pathetic.
 
Why people still bashing him when guy is the top scorer and out as 9th man from desperate effort to add some runs with the tail? He could have remained not out for 65 - then people would have bashed him for being selfish!!!!

The overall batting isn’t good, with 4 passengers & a 32 years old rookie in line-up; bashing Asad hardly helps when even Babar played the worst shot of the game - got stumped on a walking shot being set for 3 hours!!!!! And some fanb*y levels Rizwan was world class😍
 
Finally an inning which was not useless one by Shafiq. The runs you get in first inning is of value.
 
He played well today. The likes of Haris and Rizwan probably robbed him of a hundred.
 
Asad Shafiq is a selfish player plays for himself.

Pakistani cricket has gone so pathetically low because of these losers Misbah, Azhar and Shafiq, most have forgotten how Pakistani batsmen used to carry the innings when faced with batting with the tail. Likes of Mohammad Yousuf just about 10 years back.

Pakistan wins or loses Shafiq has earned the spot with a selfish innings. Rewarding selfish players has led to this disaster where we are now where no one wants to watch this team.
 
He has had an average career but really cant bash him , he has been our 2nd best batter this year with 5 fifties in 9 innings. One would expect him to convert a couplw of them to 100s though.
 
Even if he is batting on 60 you have this feeling he will get out on the next ball. Shoaib Actor is right on his assessment of Shafiq. He is a buzdil cricketer.
 
He has had an average career but really cant bash him , he has been our 2nd best batter this year with 5 fifties in 9 innings. One would expect him to convert a couplw of them to 100s though.

50s are nothing in test cricket.
 
Test (min 3000 runs)
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[tr][td]Player [/td][td]Span [/td][td]Mat [/td][td]Runs [/td][td]Ave [/td][td]100 [/td][td]50 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Javed Miandad (PAK) [/td][td]1976-1993 [/td][td]124 [/td][td]8832 [/td][td]52.57 [/td][td]23 [/td][td]43 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) [/td][td]1998-2010 [/td][td]90 [/td][td]7530 [/td][td]52.29 [/td][td]24 [/td][td]33 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Younis Khan (PAK) [/td][td]2000-2017 [/td][td]118 [/td][td]10099 [/td][td]52.05 [/td][td]34 [/td][td]33 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Inzamam-ul-Haq (ICC/PAK) [/td][td]1992-2007 [/td][td]120 [/td][td]8830 [/td][td]49.6 [/td][td]25 [/td][td]46 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK) [/td][td]2001-2017 [/td][td]75 [/td][td]5222 [/td][td]46.62 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]39 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Saeed Anwar (PAK) [/td][td]1990-2001 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]4052 [/td][td]45.52 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]25 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Zaheer Abbas (PAK) [/td][td]1969-1985 [/td][td]78 [/td][td]5062 [/td][td]44.79 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]20 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hanif Mohammad (PAK) [/td][td]1952-1969 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]3915 [/td][td]43.98 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Saleem Malik (PAK) [/td][td]1982-1999 [/td][td]103 [/td][td]5768 [/td][td]43.69 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]29 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Azhar Ali (PAK) [/td][td]2010-2019 [/td][td]77 [/td][td]5767 [/td][td]42.09 [/td][td]15 [/td][td]31 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mushtaq Mohammad (PAK) [/td][td]1959-1979 [/td][td]57 [/td][td]3643 [/td][td]39.17 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]19 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Asad Shafiq (PAK) [/td][td]2010-2019 [/td][td]73 [/td][td]4528 [/td][td]39.03 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]26 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Majid Khan (PAK) [/td][td]1964-1983 [/td][td]63 [/td][td]3931 [/td][td]38.92 [/td][td]8 [/td][td]19 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Asif Iqbal (PAK) [/td][td]1964-1980 [/td][td]58 [/td][td]3575 [/td][td]38.85 [/td][td]11 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mudassar Nazar (PAK) [/td][td]1976-1989 [/td][td]76 [/td][td]4114 [/td][td]38.09 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]17 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Imran Khan (PAK) [/td][td]1971-1992 [/td][td]88 [/td][td]3807 [/td][td]37.69 [/td][td]6 [/td][td]18 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Ijaz Ahmed (PAK) [/td][td]1987-2001 [/td][td]60 [/td][td]3315 [/td][td]37.67 [/td][td]12 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Mohammad Hafeez (PAK) [/td][td]2003-2018 [/td][td]55 [/td][td]3652 [/td][td]37.64 [/td][td]10 [/td][td]12 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

Pretty inconsistent batsman with good performances from time to time.
 
Asad Shafiq is mostly like boiled white rice you can add it to anything and it will just fill things up enough to be useful and have nothing much to the overall flavor.
 
Asad Shafiq is mostly like boiled white rice you can add it to anything and it will just fill things up enough to be useful and have nothing much to the overall flavor.

But...German food is the worst...
 
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He played well today. The likes of Haris and Rizwan probably robbed him of a hundred.

All those people trolling me on the match thread for saying this, now what you got to say for yourselves, when a heavyweight of pp says the same thing?

Asad has been so unlucky, would have had 2 centuries(gabba and karachi) in 4 matches, had anyone stayed with him
 
People asking to drop him should advise who should replace him? We do not have any world beaters waiting in the wings......
 
Playing 111 innings without being dropped is quite impressive.

Asad Shafiq is the type of player who wouldn't set the world on fire but is useful enough to be in the team. He seems like someone who stays under the radar.
 
I imagine Shafiq this series will have something like:

1st test: 74, 10
2nd test: 0, 15
3rd test: 0, 80

And thus, booking his place for the next test series :shafiq2.
 
Good start in testing conditions today.

Need more than a one or two big scores series from him this time around.

The batting cupboard is bare, no YK or Misbah to lean on.
 
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I imagine Shafiq this series will have something like:

1st test: 74, 10
2nd test: 0, 15
3rd test: 0, 80

And thus, booking his place for the next test series :shafiq2.

Lmao so true.

Or may get a century and 1 50-60 with rest sub 20 scores

Even his centuries are the bare minimum to reach that milestone. No daddy hundreds. If some of his centuries were daddy hundreds then his average may be 45ish.

The number of times he’s scored century and gotten out soon after is embarassing
 
Azhar and Asad are both cut from the same cloth. Both with big flaws in their games, were good (not great) batsmen at their short-lived peaks but reduced to below-average batsmen at best now, and neither has much of a presence even after ~10 years of international cricket

To add, Asad has always been highly inconsistent - an average of below 40 after 70+ tests in 2020 is pathetic. It says a lot about the batting standards in Pakistan when Shafiq is arguably your second best batsmen
 
Azhar is a bigger problem at the moment. Shafiq has not regressed since 2017. He is the same.
 
Asad scored a hundred in warm-up game in Australia as well so this 50 should not fool anyone, it's normal for him to score in warmups and then fail during the actual Test, guy can't take any pressure at all
 
I imagine Shafiq this series will have something like:

1st test: 74, 10
2nd test: 0, 15
3rd test: 0, 80

And thus, booking his place for the next test series :shafiq2.

Spot on He ll avge 40 and do enough to make himself undroppable without setting the world on fire

Even this innings hes turned up in time as always to book himself in for the test series Typical shafiq
 
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Azhar and Asad are both cut from the same cloth. Both with big flaws in their games, were good (not great) batsmen at their short-lived peaks but reduced to below-average batsmen at best now, and neither has much of a presence even after ~10 years of international cricket

To add, Asad has always been highly inconsistent - an average of below 40 after 70+ tests in 2020 is pathetic. It says a lot about the batting standards in Pakistan when Shafiq is arguably your second best batsmen

Just bare in mind the opposition he bats in he normally comes in at 5 or 6 I belive
 
I imagine Shafiq this series will have something like:

1st test: 74, 10
2nd test: 0, 15
3rd test: 0, 80

And thus, booking his place for the next test series :shafiq2.

Good analysis. Those big runs at the end will also likely be in a losing cause.
 
I imagine Shafiq this series will have something like:

1st test: 74, 10
2nd test: 0, 15
3rd test: 0, 80

And thus, booking his place for the next test series :shafiq2.

The most resilient player we have. And ofcourse always finds it in him to deliver when the match is long gone.
 
Azhar is a bigger problem at the moment. Shafiq has not regressed since 2017. He is the same.
Exactly. He has not stepped up, but he has barely deteriorated.
I imagine Shafiq this series will have something like:

1st test: 74, 10
2nd test: 0, 15
3rd test: 0, 80

And thus, booking his place for the next test series :shafiq2.
Whereas in the last five years of his career, Younis typically delivered:

First Test: 0 and 5
Second Test: 10 and 5
Third Test: 150 and 0

Shafiq fails too often. But not as often as Younis and Misbah did in SENA.
 
Exactly. He has not stepped up, but he has barely deteriorated.

Whereas in the last five years of his career, Younis typically delivered:

First Test: 0 and 5
Second Test: 10 and 5
Third Test: 150 and 0

Shafiq fails too often. But not as often as Younis and Misbah did in SENA.

With due respect, do you really believe that people won't cross check the drivels you post to glorify or disgrace players selectively? I am a fan of YK, even when he is retired, the best that PAK has produced - you won't get away with this one.

Last 5 years of his career (preciously from 11 May 2012 to 10th May 2017), YK has played 42 of his 118 Tests, for 3701 runs at 51.40, with 14 hundreds. That's a bit more than the 28.67 of your typical delivery.

Ok, I understand you later qualified it with "SENA": He has played 22 Tests against SENA in that period for 1913 runs at 49.05 with 8 hundreds in 43 innings. Asad Shafique can play his entire career against BD & ZIM at his home ground of NSK - he won't match this. If I do the final cut - against SENA, in SENA, still that number stands at 12 Tests for 838 runs at 38.09, with 3 hundreds in 23 innings - that's basically matching Asad's overall career.

Now, coming to the record by Test, by which you are trying suggest that YK scored soft runs once the series was over: In these 12 Tests, he has played in 4 series against each of SENA members - this is the stats by Tests

SAF:
1st: 0, 15
2nd: 111, 14
3rd: 33, 11
It was absolute shambolic cricket by PAK to lose that 2nd Test to Robin Pitersen - giving him at least SIX lives, after YK & Asad pulled it from 34/4 to 339

ENG:
1st: 33, 25
2nd: 1, 28
3rd: 31, 4
4th: 218
I hope, you would come back to tell us that, that 218 was one such "soft" example, typical last Test delivery. I really do wish .....

NZL:
1st: 2, 1
2nd: 2, 11

AUS:
1st: 0, 65
2nd: 21, 24
3rd: 175*, 13

Average in 1st Test: 141 @ 17.63
2nd Test: 212@26.50
3rd/4th Test: 485@80.83

Out of these 12 Tests, PAK has won two - his scores are 33, 25, 218 = 276@92.00. Out of these 12, 10 were in active rubber (PAK didn't lose the series yet), his stats stands at 10 Tests, 606 runs at 31.89 with 2 hundreds.

He indeed struggled to acclimatize at the start of the tour but can you please come back with the same set of stats for Asad to prove your statement?
 
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Your numbers for Younis give the game away:

South Africa 12-13: Reached 50 in 1 innings out of 6.

England 2016: once in 7 innings

New Zealand 2016-17: zero times in 4 innings.

Australia 2016-17- 2 times in 6 innings.

So
4 series
23 innings
19 dismissals under 50
4 scores over 50.

So in 19 innings out of 23 he was a burden on his team.
 
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Your numbers for Younis give the game away:

South Africa 12-13: Reached 50 in 1 innings out of 6.

England 2016: once in 7 innings

New Zealand 2016-17: zero times in 4 innings.

Australia 2016-17- 2 times in 6 innings.

So
4 series
23 innings
19 dismissals under 50
4 scores over 50.

So in 19 innings out of 23 he was a burden on his team.

Which means Bradman was burden for Australia 39 out of his 80 innings - understood.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], interestingly out of his 21 innings in SENA, Babar was also burden for his team 15 times ...... once you proved that in SENA Umarn Akmal is more productive (less burden) than Javed Miandad, though that time the filter was 40.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], interestingly out of his 21 innings in SENA, Babar was also burden for his team 15 times ...... once you proved that in SENA Umarn Akmal is more productive (less burden) than Javed Miandad, though that time the filter was 40.
Babar only became an accomplished international player in the UK in 2018: his failures were before he learned how to adapt to Test cricket.

Younis failing in 19/23 innings was how age diminishes a batsmen.
 
Babar only became an accomplished international player in the UK in 2018: his failures were before he learned how to adapt to Test cricket.

Younis failing in 19/23 innings was how age diminishes a batsmen.

Then how he could score that 218 - Babar will do well to match that one innings in his entire career. Age indeed diminishes a batsman, but we have to consider which batsman - Younis Khan diminished from his own standard, which I believe is still good enough to make this current PAK squad, if he decides to make a come back after 38 months of retirement and at the official age of almost 43. The point you are trying to feed us here that Asad still deserves to be in this PAK team (which he does on merit - that's the standard of PCT) because he delivers albeit sporadically, while YK was a passenger for five years, because he was out performed by even Asad of recent days - which is absolute nonsense.

And, what about Bradman - did he forgot what he learned in 50% of his career innings ..... thus became burden for Australia?
 
Playing 111 innings without being dropped is quite impressive.

Asad Shafiq is the type of player who wouldn't set the world on fire but is useful enough to be in the team. He seems like someone who stays under the radar.

It’s not impressive at all averaging below 40 and continually being selected isn’t right he will end up playing over 100 tests at this rate averaging 37-38.

Those stats aren’t good enough and batting in the lower middle order where it’s generally easier to bat things get worse.

He played a lot of ODIs aswell with continued mediocre performance having some of the worst stats there aswell somebody somewhere in Pak cricket thought a great batsman was hidden there but it’s never materialised.
 
dont see why people saying he hasnt regressed, 2 hundreds over the last 20 tests, an average of 35 versus 10 hundreds at 40 something before then, but given he averaged 30 over 16/17 and wasn't dropped, don't think hell be dropped anytime soon.

the main issue with shafiq is that he just doesnt convert his starts to match winning innings, even his hundreds are small hundreds, no dismissal in the nineties, but 12 after scoring a hundred just shows he switches off after getting to a hundred.

out of 173 batsmen who have scored 1000 runs in test centuries, shafiq's average is 170th. that says everything.

below is the list for all pak batsmen (min 500 runs qualification)

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Shafiq's a bum who has not worked hard to improve his game or match awareness, should have been kicked out long ago. Instead he continually gets rewarded with free holidays every year.
 
Lmao so true.

Or may get a century and 1 50-60 with rest sub 20 scores

Even his centuries are the bare minimum to reach that milestone. No daddy hundreds. If some of his centuries were daddy hundreds then his average may be 45ish.

The number of times he’s scored century and gotten out soon after is embarassing

Yeah, at the very least it's been a long while since he's scored a significant knock. Even though it was in a losing cause, Brisbane comes to mind as his last innings of significance as his hundred gave us a chance to chase 490.
 
Its funny how junaid compares shafiq to younus output when one avges 50 with 30+ tons And the other doesnt even avge 40 with not even half his 100s
 
Shafiq's a bum who has not worked hard to improve his game or match awareness, should have been kicked out long ago. Instead he continually gets rewarded with free holidays every year.

Technically he is a good player but a big time mental midget, but he got no excuse, they say pak players don't perform due to fear of being dropped every game but this guy had a free meal ticket for a decade. He doesn't have the courage to play Test cricket for his country, it comes down to desire to and putting it all on the line when you're in the trenches, this guy quits every time. Pak are to blame for picking him for so long, such a player would never last in the England set up
 
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