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So guys after england beat australia in the 5th odi to seal 5-0 whitewash . Its time to see battle between world two top odi teams now. Can it get more interesting than that ?

Who will will ? India crushed south africa in south africa in last series they played by 5-1 and single handedly won all the matches.
Unfortunately its not 5 match series between india and england. But it would be fun.
 
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England. India are a good ODI side but England is just way too good. If there are flat pitches, I think England will whitewash India, if they're sporting, it'll be very competitive.
 
England are looking unbeatable at the moment.

In India, I would have said India because the likes of Roy, Hales and Bairstow would have found it hard against spin.

In England, it is England all the way IMO.
 
If the pitches are pancakes, England will whitewash India. Otherwise, spinners will win India at least 2 games.
 
2-1 to England. England have the edge due to their explosive batting, and with India struggling from 4-6, England will take 2 games easily.

I see Indian spinners though restricting England to a below par total in one of the matches.
 
The difference between India winning or losing the series is Kohli.
 
babajee said:
The difference between India winning or losing the series is Kohli.
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Kohli is not a factor. Indian spinners are factor. rohit sharma or shikhar dhawan or rahul,dhoni and company are also very competitive.
Although both teams have excellent batting .indians have edge in bowling against england whereas england have edge in batting against india.
 
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akki said:
Kohli is not a factor. Indian spinners are factor. rohit sharma or shikhar dhawan or rahul,dhoni and company are also very competitive.
Although both teams have excellent batting .indians have edge in bowling against england whereas england have edge in batting against india.
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India won’t be winning anything if Kohli doesn’t fire.
 
babajee said:
India won’t be winning anything if Kohli doesn’t fire.
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India batting is not dependent on kohli only. You dnt get n.o 1 ranking in the world for long time ,though its n.o 2 now after england beat australia,by just one batsman performing. India have excellent batting .people have very high standards from indian batting .
Its just england batting is way too explosive and its till n.o 8 or 9. But i am waiting to watch indian bowling especially spinners that how they perform there.
 
akki said:
India batting is not dependent on kohli only. You dnt get n.o 1 ranking in the world for long time ,though its n.o 2 now after england beat australia,by just one batsman performing. India have excellent batting .people have very high standards from indian batting .
Its just england batting is way too explosive and its till n.o 8 or 9. But i am waiting to watch indian bowling especially spinners that how they perform there.
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Indian batting is generally Kohli or bust overseas. Dhawan can step up too if it’s his day.
 
babajee said:
Indian batting is generally Kohli or bust overseas. Dhawan can step up too if it’s his day.
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You should check stats of rohit sharma or dhwan too in overseas odi matches .
While dhoni is not a gone thing. Its just je cant do hitting like he used to do. But its still difficult to get him out. Kl rahul or pandya is also very effective batsman.
So you have rohit sharma ,dhawan ,kohli,kl rahul ,dhoni,pandya. 6 top players who can find place in any odi side in the world.
 
Its gonna be real difficult for India, with the form England currently have they look unbeatable at the moment. Its gonna go down to who has batters perform better.
 
India are a fantastic ODI side with the best batsman in the world. England as shown today, have a long batting lineup that can bail them out of trouble, and they also seem to be taking ODI batting to the next level. So feel England do have the edge although could be a very tightly contested series.
 
England have the edge. They are at home and on flat pitches they will outscore every team.
 
England's batting is a beast but their bowling is equally crap.They let a minnow score over 370 against them.Over-the hill Dhoni and Yuvi made mincemeat of them to score 380 and Jadhav of all guys smoked them to chase over 350 even after losing 4 wickets for 60.If Indian spinners could find some turn and Indian top order could fire with Raina chipping in with some lusty blows, India could win the series.
 
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England will smoke India at their best. Don't see India's inexperienced spinners stopping this juggernaut
 
India will win this 3-0, England doesn't have the bowlers to stop Kohli and he will eat Rashid and Moeen Ali for breakfast! Meanwhile, India's bowling has improved and I'd expect them to put up a good show.
 
Hopefully England will win the series. I think toss could play a big part.
 
Last time in india it was close series where india won at 2-1.
This time I think England will win 2-1.
 
England has superior batting power in terms of power hitters ....but if the scores they put can be chased by any country ....it is India..if they perform 110% of their capability.

I guess the key to matches will be bowlers from both sides...and India may not look to have an intimidating bowling unit...but if they do perform like they did in SA.... even then its 55-45 in England's favor.
 
akki said:
Which side will win ? Who bowl first or bat first ?
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I think both teams would want to bowl first. Both teams have good batting line ups so would back their chances to chase anything down.
 
Indian batting is no match for England's.

Indian bowling is better than English Bowling. Especially the spinners.

It will be a closely fought series with England winning either 2-1 or 3-0. All matches will be very close.

Indian batting might get exposed if Rohit and Dhawan does not provide strong starts. Middle order is still iffy and our lower order hitting is no where as good as England's.
 
England almost chased down 380 against India in India a year back. What makes people think India's bowling is good enough to stop these mad men on their own turf?
 
It could end up 2-1 or 3-0 to either of the two teams. All results are almost equally likely, it is going to be a fascinating encounter.

The two best ODI teams in the world by some distance, and they are the only two sides that can beat each other in a bilateral series at the moment.

India's bowling attack is far better, but England's batting depth is incredible. Ultimately, it will boil down to Kohli's performance. If he carries his South African form into this series, England will struggle.
 
It is a welcome change that for once the Indian team is considered the underdog for this series and rightly so due to the huge wins of the Englishmen.

The two wrist spinners are going to be the key and their performances along with the Indian #4, 5 and 6 is going to decide the series.

As for the fans, they should not be too focused on the results and should support the team to get their combination right especially with the world cup now not even an year away.
 
akki said:
You should check stats of rohit sharma or dhwan too in overseas odi matches .
While dhoni is not a gone thing. Its just je cant do hitting like he used to do. But its still difficult to get him out. Kl rahul or pandya is also very effective batsman.
So you have rohit sharma ,dhawan ,kohli,kl rahul ,dhoni,pandya. 6 top players who can find place in any odi side in the world.
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Who are you trying to fool here? Kohli is the main man when it comes to playing outside India.
 
I would only care about a test series win. India have been pretty poor overseas since the 2011 WC win. So, it is time to win something big in test cricket.
 
As someone said, people are underestimating the Indian batting lineup. And that all three results are possible.

I do think people are forgetting that England haven't scored big runs against quality spin and that at the end of the day, they don't have the world's best batsman in their side.
 
There is a big difference between a batting line up of Head,Finch,Stoinis,Marsh,Carey and Paine and a line up of Rohit Dhawan Kohli KLR Dhoni and co.
 
Usman Chadda said:
England almost chased down 380 against India in India a year back. What makes people think India's bowling is good enough to stop these mad men on their own turf?
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We didnt have chahal and kuldeep in ODI back then.English struggled against Chahal in the subsequent T20 series.Also we have chased down 350 plus against England in the same series even after 60/4.So anything is possible.
 
The thing about 3 match ODI series is that, there is very little room for error and even toss can play a big role. Even though one team might win the series, it will still be quite difficult to tell which team was better as the competition between two high class teams can not be sufficiently measured in a 3 match series. Although the only thing England need to do is to get through to India's middle order and make some seaming tracks to counter Rohit and Kohli's threat a little. With their bowling attack, it's difficult for them to get Kohli out. Plus I believe England batters especially Roy, Morgan and Hales will be susceptible to Kuldeep and Chahal. I believe in these two areas will the series be decided.
 
This series is between English batting and Indian bowling specially two wrist spinners. I hope this series is exciting and not some one sided dull series we just had between Eng and Aus.

I also Hope Kohli and co finds form that can help them to perform better in test cricket.
 
The only edge in this series will be that of kohlis bat as he edges the ball to the slip cordon :rondu
 
Chahal & kuldeep are big threats this time for England.
From if tom curran gets fit then he should play ahead of willy or wood.
 
England are clear favourites to win the ODI series. India’s top order will have to fire every time for us to win. The middle order is still a mess. England on the other hand have a well settled side and their batsmen seem to be in good form.
 
It is definitely going to be a tightly fought series.

Both these teams are so equally benefited with good talented cricketers. Now, this is what was missing in cricket for a long time. The battle between two equally motivated teams.

No matter who wins, these matches are going to be a real treat for Cricket fans. End of the day, the game Cricket is the ultimate Winner.

1. The Battle for No.1 Position in ODIs.
2. The Possibilities of ODI Records can be broken with these flat pitches and exciting players in both the sides.
3. The Battle between leggies and brutal English batting line-up.
4. A Rehearsal tournament to World Cup 2019.
5. 10000 Runs possibilities for MSD & Virat is in line.
 
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Lefthanded said:
As someone said, people are underestimating the Indian batting lineup. And that all three results are possible.

I do think people are forgetting that England haven't scored big runs against quality spin and that at the end of the day, they don't have the world's best batsman in their side.
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I would argue that on current form Bairstow is the work’s best ODI batter, while Kohli averages 32 in England with four scores below 10 out of ten innings.
 
Robert said:
I would argue that on current form Bairstow is the work’s best ODI batter, while Kohli averages 32 in England with four scores below 10 out of ten innings.
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It's not that easy to become world's best batsman, bairstow has a long way to go before he even gets near kohli.
And these stats won't take much time to change on english pattas.
 
Robert said:
I would argue that on current form Bairstow is the work’s best ODI batter, while Kohli averages 32 in England with four scores below 10 out of ten innings.
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You're right. Bairstow is batting unbelievably, but current form of a newish ODI batsman can't be grounds to draw a comparison.

I'm sure at some point, Lance Klusener's form was better than Brian Lara's. That didn't mean he was better than Lara.

Let's see how the series goes. Maybe England will become the dark spot on his CV, but leaving either of us aside, I think that the England fielding side is going to be nervous about getting him to average 32.
 
Im going to the t20 in old trafford and unfortunately got a few spare tickets

Im really looking forward to 2 big limited overs team fighting it out And at the moment cant see beyond england with their current form

Should be a cracker tbh
 
England will win the LO series. I think their batting depth will prove to be far too strong for India. India seem very reliant on the top 3. Doesn't look like KL will play a part to strengthen the middle order.
 
India have way too strong bowling line up for england.its not pakistan or australia bowling this time which will let them score 400 plus. Mark my words india will win this series.
Kuldeep , chahal ,bumrah ,these 3 bowlers are world class. ....
 
Indians have a vastly superior bowling attack, while the batting too is pretty good. In India, I would give England zero chance, but in England, they may run India close.
 
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Indians have a vastly superior bowling attack, while the batting too is pretty good. In India, I would give England zero chance, but in England, they may run India close.
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Bumrah and Washington are injured. So now the bowling is a level lower.
 
More the fans badmouth the Indians .... the better they perform when it counts .... will be a real treat to watch ..... can’t wait !!!
 
On current form, England have the edge. Even rankings suggest so.

Matches may not go according to past form or rankings though , but that is another matter.
 
I have a feeling England batting will struggle against the wrist spinners. Mind you England bowling is weak
 
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