US Elections 2020 : Who will be the next President of the United States?

[MenInG]

November 3rd, 2020.

Candidate 1:

Joseph R. Biden Jr., 77

Former vice president; former senator from Delaware

Democrat

“If we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation, who we are, and I cannot stand by and watch that happen.”
Has run for president twice before.

Is known for his down-to-earth personality and his ability to connect with working-class voters.

His eight years as Barack Obama’s vice president are a major selling point for many Democrats.

SIGNATURE ISSUES: Restoring America’s standing on the global stage; adding a public option to the Affordable Care Act; strengthening economic protections for low-income workers in industries like manufacturing and fast food.


Candidate 2:

Donald J. Trump, 74
U.S. president; real estate developer; reality television star

Republican

“Considering that we have done more than any administration in the first two years, this should be easy. More great things now in the works!”

Main legislative accomplishment as president: a sweeping tax cut that chiefly benefited corporations and wealthy investors.

Has focused on undoing the policies of the Obama administration, including on health care, environmental regulation and immigration.

Was impeached by the House of Representatives for seeking to pressure Ukraine to smear his political rivals, but was acquitted by the Senate.

SIGNATURE ISSUES: Restricting immigration and building a wall at the Mexican border; renegotiating or canceling international deals on trade, arms control and climate change; withdrawing American troops from overseas.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think it should be much closer than last election.

Biden is not perfect but he has better popularity than Hillary.

It is 50-50 right now and it can go either way.

 

[IMMY69]

My money would be on Biden winning the popular vote, probably with a bigger margin then Clinton did, but losing the election.

 

[Technics 1210]

If you haven't seen it, then watch "Whose vote counts" on Netflix. The entire voting system in the USA is rigged. Gerrymandering and electoral college system to blame. Remember, voting is not a right in the USA.

https://www.netflix.com/title/81304760?s=a&trkid=13747225&t=wha

If you believe the polls, then you have learned nothing from the past 5 years.

I couldn't care less who won, but for sheer entertainment value - Trump to win! 4 more years of liberal tears!

 

[KingKhanWC]

Biden will win.

Black people will vote in record numbers

Many Republicans dont like Trump

Trump just shot himself in the foot by this testing positive stunt.

Its what happens after the election which will be entertaining.

 

[El Generico]

If polls are anything to go by then it should be Biden.

 

[Kroll]

I couldn't care less who won, but for sheer entertainment value - Trump to win! 4 more years of liberal tears! ��

Have to agree, Trump begins a sense of theatre to the proceedings.

 

[James]

Biden is a near certainty to win.

Whether or not Trump would accept such a result (and the constitutional/legal wrangling that could ensue) is another matter altogether!

 

[Savak]

Trump was trailing in the opinion polls last time as well but he pulled a surprise on election day. Opinion polls are misleading, Trump has many hardcore supporters and a lot of them are very silent.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Trump was trailing in the opinion polls last time as well but he pulled a surprise on election day. Opinion polls are misleading, Trump has many hardcore supporters and a lot of them are very silent.

Biden is far ahead of what Clinton was.

Remember so many Americans hated Clinton, email scandal etc but Biden has no such issues, unless Trump can pull out something he's done to also make him look crooked.

Trump will argue against the loss which will see his hardcore supporters no longer silent.

 

[IMMY69]

Trump was trailing in the opinion polls last time as well but he pulled a surprise on election day. Opinion polls are misleading, Trump has many hardcore supporters and a lot of them are very silent.

It was like Brexit...
General lethargy amongst the voters partly due to the quality of candidates meant so many people took it for granted.

 

[Bigboii]

It was like Brexit...
General lethargy amongst the voters partly due to the quality of candidates meant so many people took it for granted.

Geez I wonder if people took it for granted why Clinton managed to win the popular vote?

People in blue states voted in droves last time around one of the most highly anticipated election but people took it for granted?

 

[IMMY69]

Geez I wonder if people took it for granted why Clinton managed to win the popular vote?

People in blue states voted in droves last time around one of the most highly anticipated election but people took it for granted?

I already said in an earlier thread that Trump lost the popular vote.

 

[Bigboii]

Trump was trailing in the opinion polls last time as well but he pulled a surprise on election day. Opinion polls are misleading, Trump has many hardcore supporters and a lot of them are very silent.

And add to that it's rare for a decent or even average president to loose an election for his second term

If GWB can win after the Iraq, Afghanistan war, signs of a struggling economy shown by "In the 2000 election, only 13 percent of voters leaving the polls said that the nation's economy was not good or poor. In 2004, more than half of voters (52 percent) rated the economy not good or poor, giving the Kerry campaign an important opening."

So it's very hard to remove the president who is running for his second term in office

 

[Technics 1210]

The liberal tears blaming lack of votes. How about no one believes these frauds anymore?

Liberalism is the new cancer. A greater threat than HIV/AIDs/Plague/Capitalism all put together.

Time to destroy the disease.

 

[IMMY69]

[MENTION=38131]BigB[/MENTION]oli

I stand corrected.
It was actually a large turnout in 2016 and lethargy had nothing to do right it...

 

[Bigboii]

I already said in an earlier thread that Trump lost the popular vote.

"General lethargy amongst the voters partly due to the quality of candidates meant so many people took it for granted."

My problem is this statement and by telling that Clinton won the popular vote showing how people in the blue states voted in high numbers and also the anticipation of the election among people showed that no it wasn't anything like the brexit and the lethargy you're making it out to be is simply not true!

 

[IMMY69]

"General lethargy amongst the voters partly due to the quality of candidates meant so many people took it for granted."

My problem is this statement and by telling that Clinton won the popular vote showing how people in the blue states voted in high numbers and also the anticipation of the election among people showed that no it wasn't anything like the brexit and the lethargy you're making it out to be is simply not true!

Yes I already admitted my mistake

 

[Giannis]

Biden is guaranteed to win, Trump surprisingly won a couple swing states but this time I don't see him holding on to all the swing states he had won last time. People always talk about his miracle victory 4 years ago but that was a statistically anomaly, the odds of that ever happening again is like Brian Lara scoring 400 twice in his international career.

 

[Technics 1210]

Biden is guaranteed to win, Trump surprisingly won a couple swing states but this time I don't see him holding on to all the swing states he had won last time. People always talk about his miracle victory 4 years ago but that was a statistically anomaly, the odds of that ever happening again is like Brian Lara scoring 400 twice in his international career.

Would you bet all the money you have Biden to win? No. You wouldn't.

So dont blag Biden's win as a guarantee.

 

[Giannis]

Would you bet all the money you have Biden to win? No. You wouldn't.

So dont blag Biden's win as a guarantee.

I'll bet my whole 401k

 

[Technics 1210]

I'll bet my whole 401k

Sure you would. Do it. Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[James]

Biden now has a 16 point lead in the polls (57-41) which is a notably larger gap than Hillary had mounted at this point in the race. Even with a 5% margin of error on both of these figures, 52-47 would still be a relatively easy Biden win. A cunning businessman and eccentric President he may be, but I can’t see how even Trump wriggles out of this particular predicament.

 

[GenericBrand]

He just halted the stimulation talks til after the elections, this might backfire on him.

 

[Bigboii]

Trump's plan "withdrawing American troops from overseas"

Biden's plan "SIGNATURE ISSUES: Restoring America’s standing on the global stage"

So the Trump's policy is of isolationism where US would slowly retire from world politics while maintaining the economic levels US citizens are used to

But Biden wants to confront the world into acknowledging that US is still the power that be if the world and nothing major in world politics can happen without the US support

This election is very important in terms of where US would go in terms of it's relationship with the world and where the people of the US see than selves in 20 30 years

I think people of US are very happy being alone in the world because country itself is very insular, isolationist in nature (those American geography joke somewhat proves it)

Even till WW2 (decades after US was the number 1 economy in the world) isolationism was a popular selling point supported by both parties

So I there's a demand for this policy that is not being catered to right know (I know Trump hints towards it but it's not his manifasto)

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

Its TRUMP country y'all .The silent majority ( white men ) is with him all the way to the end . I see another 4 years of MAGA

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Biden is a near certainty to win.

Whether or not Trump would accept such a result (and the constitutional/legal wrangling that could ensue) is another matter altogether!

In 2016 elections also Hillary was locked in to win by a big margin. We all know what happened.

Funny thing is, Hillary and Dems could not digest Trump win and made up all sorts of conspiracy theories and did every stunt possible to bring down Trump. What needs to be seen is how BLM and Antifa will react if Trump gets re-elected. They are going to make even bigger fuss and peddle even more conspiracy theories and create more ruckus than what we have seen so far.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Its TRUMP country y'all .The silent majority ( white men ) is with him all the way to the end . I see another 4 years of MAGA

BLM and Antifa have managed to polarize America into White vs Black and Capitalism vs Socialism. Not to forget, all business owners support Trump irrespective of color. Republicans always had the bible belt in their pocket.

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

BLM and Antifa have managed to polarize America into White vs Black and Capitalism vs Socialism. Not to forget, all business owners support Trump irrespective of color. Republicans always had the bible belt in their pocket.

Trump polarized America . BLM has been there even before trump . Agree with you regarding businesses and socialism . Thing is that Biden is center right , not the same as Bernie so the socialism thing doesn't apply . If anything he'll be more in the pockets of Big Corporate .

 

[sjahmed23]

I think white people are satisfied with Trump. No one is motivated to vote for biden. We might see another Trump victory and demoralized electorate

 

[El Generico]

Lol at Biden socialist. Going by his policies , in most other countries he would actually be the right wing candidate

 

[Giannis]

I think white people are satisfied with Trump. No one is motivated to vote for biden. We might see another Trump victory and demoralized electorate

Nope I don't see it happening, white people won't be enough to reelect Trump.

 

[moghul]

Only 2nd time since I'm here in USA. I voted Democratic candidate, mailed it yesterday. I hate democrates and not impressed with Biden at all, but other guy is simply crazy, stupid , idiot and heartless.

 

[moghul]

A month ago, elections were tight, but now lazy Joe is running away with the election, his lead is widening. Trump is doing some tricks in desperation, but game is over already.

 

[Robert]

BLM and Antifa have managed to polarize America into White vs Black and Capitalism vs Socialism. Not to forget, all business owners support Trump irrespective of color. Republicans always had the bible belt in their pocket.

BLM and Antifa are results, not causes.

Bannon and Trump are the cause.

 

[Bigboii]

BLM and Antifa have managed to polarize America into White vs Black and Capitalism vs Socialism. Not to forget, all business owners support Trump irrespective of color. Republicans always had the bible belt in their pocket.

BLM is a good cause but ANTIFA is s**** show

 

[Technics 1210]

Trump is a symptom - austerity and liberalism are the causes.

When liberals try to surpress your voice and concerns, then label you, this is what you get. Deservedly.

For the record, Floyds death is what triggered the BLM riots. It wasn't Trump who had his knee on Floyd.

 

[Bigboii]

Trump is a symptom - austerity and liberalism are the causes.

When liberals try to surpress your voice and concerns, then label you, this is what you get. Deservedly.

For the record, Floyds death is what triggered the BLM riots. It wasn't Trump who had his knee on Floyd.

 

[Technics 1210]

Even if Trump loses, American politics has changed forever. My guess is rioting on the streets of USA. Guns galore!

Saying this the one positive aspect if Trump does lose is you'll hear a lot less from liberals. Then again, who are they going to blame? I know, whoever the media commands them to.

 

[Giannis]

Even if Trump loses, American politics has changed forever. My guess is rioting on the streets of USA. Guns galore!

Saying this the one positive aspect if Trump does lose is you'll hear a lot less from liberals. Then again, who are they going to blame? I know, whoever the media commands them to.

Riots are new. They've been happening since the times of MLK, these BLM riots ain't too different from the Rodney King riots of the 90s.

 

[Technics 1210]

Riots are new. They've been happening since the times of MLK, these BLM riots ain't too different from the Rodney King riots of the 90s.

You are refering to race riots. I envisage larger scale rioting from Trump supporters who have stood down, and are standing by!

 

[Bigboii]

You are refering to race riots. I envisage larger scale rioting from Trump supporters who have stood down, and are standing by!

Those fat boys can barely walk to McDonald's and you're expecting than to go full on riot mode

Nah maybe a bit of marching from the neo Nazis but not full scale riots like we saw months ago

Well fed people don't riot and destroy properties cause they have everything to lose only the hungary and neglected with nothing to lose riot!

 

[Technics 1210]

Those fat boys can barely walk to McDonald's and you're expecting than to go full on riot mode

Nah maybe a bit of marching from the neo Nazis but not full scale riots like we saw months ago

Well fed people don't riot and destroy properties cause they have everything to lose only the hungary and neglected with nothing to lose riot!

To be honest anything is possible.

I wouldn't underestimate Trump even after he loses. Most likely his social media following will increase, and he will no doubt be tweeting his feelings on a daily basis without any fear of personal political retribution. He will have nothing to lose which will make him even more fearless.

Who knows, but one thing is for sure, Trump will not go quietly.

 

[Robert]

BLM is a good cause but ANTIFA is s**** show

American Antifas 1944 style....

 

[Bigboii]

Interesting that he is including black musicians, civil rights leaders and athletes into his ad campaign

Is it there to chip away the Biden black vote?
If it is I think it's a mistake blacks hate Republicans even though they're conservative in private life

I think it's there to push back on the white supremacist persona because after floyd's killing white America is finally waking up to the plight of the minority ( hell even Rush limbaugh commented how the cops who killed floyd should be in prison)

So I think the floyd's case braught attention to race in US and it's becoming a popular issue where even centrists are concerned by police brutality

 

[Technics 1210]

Interesting that he is including black musicians, civil rights leaders and athletes into his ad campaign

Is it there to chip away the Biden black vote?
If it is I think it's a mistake blacks hate Republicans even though they're conservative in private life

I think it's there to push back on the white supremacist persona because after floyd's killing white America is finally waking up to the plight of the minority ( hell even Rush limbaugh commented how the cops who killed floyd should be in prison)

So I think the floyd's case braught attention to race in US and it's becoming a popular issue where even centrists are concerned by police brutality

Blacks and Hispanics support Trump in their droves, but the liberals cannot accept it (even in this thread).

Liberal's Hail Mary routine of - Trump is a racist - has fallen on deaf ears. For one liberals have never provided any evidence of Trump's racism, and 2, opportunies for blacks in USA were at an all time high before C19 pandemic. Of course BLM did wonders in exploiting black on black crime. So many black liveihoods destroyed by BLM cult. Tsk tsk.

 

[Bigboii]

Interesting that he is including black musicians, civil rights leaders and athletes into his ad campaign

Is it there to chip away the Biden black vote?
If it is I think it's a mistake blacks hate Republicans even though they're conservative in private life

I think it's there to push back on the white supremacist persona because after floyd's killing white America is finally waking up to the plight of the minority ( hell even Rush limbaugh commented how the cops who killed floyd should be in prison)

So I think the floyd's case braught attention to race in US and it's becoming a popular issue where even centrists are concerned by police brutality

This issue maybe chipping away votes towards Biden

It's not a parliamentary system where fringe ideology can survive so he really needs to back down from the white nationalist stuff and start condemning it

It may have worked in 2016 because US was relaxed about race relations due to a 2 term black president but know the hightened tension around floyd is bringing attention back to race relations

 

[Technics 1210]

This issue maybe chipping away votes towards Biden

It's not a parliamentary system where fringe ideology can survive so he really needs to back down from the white nationalist stuff and start condemning it

It may have worked in 2016 because US was relaxed about race relations due to a 2 term black president but know the hightened tension around floyd is bringing attention back to race relations

Trump has condemend white supremacy and neo nazis in the past. The problem is the media do not run with it.

Guess when Trump said this?

"I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally— but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."

 

[Technics 1210]

Trump condemning white supremacy over 20 times.

https://youtu.be/niY_CiYE4FI

 

[Bigboii]

Trump has condemend white supremacy and neo nazis in the past. The problem is the media do not run with it.

Guess when Trump said this?

"I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally— but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."

Interesting yes media is abusing the white nationalist card tbh

looking around proud boys were termed as white nationalist group in media but that's not entirely true they're a far right group with a black hispanic national leader go figure...



I doubt KKK is excited about a black man joining thier ranks...

Know I am not saying that there are no racists in this group of course not but white nationalism is not the goal of the organization

(just like people in BLM, ANTIFA marches may have cammunists, socialists in tham but that's not the purpose of thier organization so we can't describe tham as "cammunists, socialists)

 

[Robert]

Veep debate tonight.

Expecting an easy victory for the much more capable Harris.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54423497

 

[Technics 1210]

Interesting yes media is abusing the white nationalist card tbh

looking around proud boys were termed as white nationalist group in media but that's not entirely true they're a far right group with a black hispanic national leader go figure...

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I doubt KKK is excited about a black man joining thier ranks...

Know I am not saying that there are no racists in this group of course not but white nationalism is not the goal of the organization

(just like people in BLM, ANTIFA marches may have cammunists, socialists in tham but that's not the purpose of thier organization so we can't describe tham as "cammunists, socialists)

Just goes to prove how gullible the liberals are.

 

[Firebat]

With pandemic dominating U.S. election, older voters turning away from Trump

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Many older Americans have turned away from President Donald Trump this year as the coronavirus ravages the country, eroding an important Republican support base that helped propel him into the White House in 2016, Reuters/Ipsos polling data shows.

Trump and his Democratic opponent Joe Biden now split American voters aged 55 years and older almost evenly: 47% say they are voting for Biden on Nov. 3 while 46% back Trump, according to Reuters/Ipsos national surveys in September and October.

That could be an alarming sign for the president, who trails Biden with 25 days to go before the election.

Republicans have relied on the support of older Americans in national elections for years, routinely benefiting from a demographic that consistently shows up in force on Election Day.

Trump won the 55-plus age group by 13 percentage points in 2016, according to exit polls. Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential nominee in 2012, achieved the same margin.

Reuters/Ipsos state polls also show Biden outperforming Hillary Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, among older voters in a handful of battleground states, where seniors make up an outsized proportion of the electorate.

Winning those states will be critical to the outcome of the 2020 race: whoever takes the most battleground states will be on track to win the Electoral College and the White House.

Biden is beating Trump among older voters in Wisconsin by 10 points and drawing about the same amount of support as Trump is with that demographic in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida and Arizona, according to the state polls conducted in mid-September and early October.

Four years ago, Trump won older voters in each of those states by 10 to 29 points.

Half of the older voters in the five battleground states blamed the high number of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the country - nearly 7.6 million cases and more than 210,000 deaths - on “poor leadership and policy decisions from President Trump,” the polls show.

Randy Bode, 59, a Republican in Douglas, Arizona, who voted for Trump in 2016, said he was disappointed with Trump’s suggestion that people could protect themselves from COVID-19 by drinking bleach.

“He shouldn’t be saying the things he’s saying” about the coronavirus, he said.

Bode, who is now undecided, is also concerned about Trump’s efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act and how that would leave millions of Americans without health insurance during a health crisis.

“He’s had four years to come up with a plan, and he hasn’t done it,” he said.

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A DETERIORATING BASE

Trump’s standing with older Americans has deteriorated this year as the novel coronavirus swept the country, closing thousands of businesses and overwhelming the health care system that seniors rely on more than others.

Sixty-one percent said this week in a national Reuters/Ipsos poll that they disapprove of the president’s handling of the coronavirus, up 12 percentage points from May. And Trump’s net approval for his response to the virus dropped among all Americans to its lowest level since Reuters started asking the question in early March.

Among older Americans, 83% were concerned about the threat that the coronavirus poses to their personal health and safety.

“Seniors were much more worried about COVID than younger Americans,” said Alex Conant, a Republican strategist whose firm has spotted a similar trend in its polling data.

Trump’s campaign has been working to stop the bleeding, and last weekend he dispatched Vice President Mike Pence to campaign at The Villages, the conservative retirement community in central Florida.

On Thursday, while still convalescing at the White House from his recent coronavirus infection, the president addressed America’s seniors in a video, calling them his “favorite people in the world” and pledging to make new virus-fighting drugs available to them for free.

“You are vulnerable and so am I,” Trump said. “We’re going to take care of our seniors.”

The Trump campaign pointed to an executive order he signed last year aimed at bolstering Medicare, the national insurance program for Americans 65 and older.

“President Trump and his administration remain laser-focused on protecting our most vulnerable citizens, including our nation’s senior citizens,” said Ken Farnaso, a Trump campaign spokesman.

Biden is also pitching directly to older voters, particularly in Arizona and Florida.

His campaign has been running ads featuring a Florida couple who can’t see their grandchildren because of the pandemic. Other ads have focused on Trump’s threat to eliminate the payroll tax, which funds Social Security.

Conant said Trump needs to figure out how to bring seniors back into the fold - and fast.

“It’s crucial,” he said. “Trump will not win without strong support from senior voters.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-voters-turning-away-from-trump-idUSKBN26U113

 

[James]

Whilst there are no guarantees and no foregone conclusions in politics, it looks increasingly as if Trump’s presidential career is now slowly rotting like a stale carcass in the deepest possible hole. How even this master blagger finds a way out of such a hopeless situation, I am not sure. The end is nigh.

 

[Nadeemp]

He will try to strong arm the election. Suppress vote and take it to courts

 

[IMMY69]

Did I hear right?
Trump talking about California rationing water so the “little fishes” in the Pacific survive...
Or did I just dream it?

 

[MenInG]

He is alive and kicking, he is not going to go down easy.

Will be the most interesting election EVER.

 

[Firebat]

Republicans express fears Donald Trump will lose presidential election

Ted Cruz fears an election “bloodbath”. His fellow top Republican senator Thom Tillis is talking in terms of a Joe Biden presidency. And even Mitch McConnell, the fiercely loyal Senate majority leader, won’t go near the White House over Donald Trump’s handling of coronavirus protocols.

Individually, they could arguably be seen as off-the-cuff comments from Trump’s allies attempting to rally support for the US president just days ahead of a general election that opinion polls increasingly show him losing.

But collectively, along with pronouncements from several other Republicans appearing to distance themselves from Trump, his administration and its policies, it reflects growing concern inside the Republican party’s top tier that 3 November could be a blowout win for Joe Biden and the Democrats.

“I think it could be a terrible election. I think we could lose the White House and both houses of Congress, that it could be a bloodbath of Watergate proportions,” Cruz, the junior senator for Texas and former vocal critic of Trump, said in an interview on CNBC’s Squawk Box on Friday.

“I am worried. It’s volatile, it’s highly volatile,” he added, although he did say he also saw the possibility of Trump re-elected “with a big margin”.

Tillis, one of several Trump associates who contracted Covid-19 apparently at a super-spreader White House event two weeks ago, faces a tough fight for re-election as senator for North Carolina, and raised the prospect of a Trump defeat during a debate against Democratic challenger Cal Cunningham.

“The best check on a Biden presidency is for Republicans to have a majority in the senate,” he said, inadvertently suggesting he thought a Democratic victory next month could be a done deal. “Checks and balances does resonate with North Carolina voters,” he added.

Elsewhere, Republican displeasure at Trump is becoming increasingly evident, especially among candidates locked in tight election races of their own.

Martha McSally, the Arizona senator trailing the former Nasa astronaut Mark Kelly by a significant margin, attacked Trump for his repeated attacks on her predecessor, John McCain. “Quite frankly, it pisses me off when he does it,” she said in a debate this week.

The Texas senator John Cornyn slammed Trump this week for “creating confusion” over coronavirus and “letting his guard down” as the pandemic spread across the nation.

McConnell’s comments, meanwhile, about why he has not been to the White House for at least two months could be seen in a different context, given he is 78 and in the same at-risk demographic as the already infected president.

“My impression was that their approach to how to handle this is different from mine and what I suggested that we do in the Senate, which is to wear a mask and practice social distancing,” he said.

But dissent from the staunch Trump ally has been almost unheard of through the four years of the presidency. McConnell’s words seem to reflect the threat that a nationwide backlash to Trump’s pandemic handling poses to the Republican senate majority.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/10/republicans-presidential-election-fears-biden-trump

 

[MenInG]

The US presidential campaign is set to gear up again this week, as President Donald Trump aggressively returns to the trail after his doctor declared him no longer a risk of coronavirus transmission.

In an interview aired on Fox News on Sunday, Trump said he no longer has COVID-19 and declared he was now “immune” from the virus, a claim that was impossible to prove and comes amid a series of outstanding questions about the president’s health.

“I’m immune,” Trump said in an interview on Fox News. “The president is in very good shape to fight the battles.” He did not say whether he had tested negative.

The statement comes a day after Trump’s physician, Dr Sean Conley, said the president had taken a test on Saturday showing he was no longer “a transmission risk to others”, and there was no longer evidence “of actively replicating virus”.

The White House at the time did not say whether Conley’s statement meant Trump had actually tested negative for the coronavirus.

To date, the White House has also not released when Trump last tested negative for the virus before his positive test, making the timeline of his infection unclear.

Later on Sunday, Twitter flagged a tweet by Trump in which the US President claimed he was immune to the coronavirus, saying it violated the social media platform’s rules about misleading information related to COVID-19.

“A total and complete sign off from White House Doctors yesterday. That means I can’t get it (immune), and can’t give it. Very nice to know,” Trump said in the tweet.

The post was flagged by Twitter with a disclaimer.

“This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about spreading misleading and potentially harmful information related to COVID-19,” Twitter’s disclaimer read, adding that it had determined that it may be in the public’s interest for the tweet to remain accessible.

A Twitter spokeswoman told Reuters news agency that the tweet made “misleading health claims” about COVID-19 and that engagements with the post would be “significantly limited,” as is standard in such cases.

Trump has not travelled since he announced on October 2 that he had tested positive for the coronavirus. After leaving Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Monday, the president has remained at the White House, where he held his first event on Saturday since the positive test.

During that speech, Trump addressed Black and Latino members of a conservative foundation from a Rose Garden balcony in what was billed as official White House business, and not a campaign event. He declared that the coronavirus, which has killed more than 210,000 US citizens, was “disappearing”.

The president has repeatedly downplayed the virus since leaving the hospital and has been eager to return to the campaign trail as several polls show Biden widening his lead nationally to double digits. Biden also remains ahead in polling averages of key battleground states, with more than five-point lead averages in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Trump has rallies planned in Florida on Monday, Pennsylvania on Tuesday, and Iowa on Wednesday, despite repeated criticism that such gatherings may further spread the virus.

Biden warns of ‘chicanery’

The Biden campaign, meanwhile, has sought to capitalise on Trump’s absence, visiting Florida, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania last week.

On Saturday, Biden, while speaking in Pennsylvania, said “the only way” he could lose to Trump was through malfeasance at the polls, an apparent reference to the Trump campaign’s plans to deploy thousands of “poll watchers” to sites across the country.

The president has also repeatedly cast doubt on voting by mail, suggesting it is ripe for fraud, despite no evidence to suggest that.

“Make sure to vote because the only way we lose this is by the chicanery going on relative to polling places,” Biden told supporters.

Before leaving the state, Biden later clarified that his comments did not mean he would refuse the outcome of the election. Trump has so far not committed to accepting the results.

“I’m going to accept the outcome of this election, period,” said Biden.

The former vice president will have a Town Hall on Thursday hosted by ABC News in lieu of the second presidential debate.

That debate was cancelled after the Trump campaign refused plans to have the candidates participate remotely.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/11/us-elections-trump-says-looks-like-im-immune-to-covid-19

 

[MenInG]

Early voting for the US election has kicked off in the battleground state of Florida - the BBC is live from Miami

A record 28 million nationwide ballots have already been cast ahead of election day on 3 November

Donald Trump hit the campaign trail hard at the weekend, and today heads to Arizona

Joe Biden - who has a significant lead in most national polls - is prepping for the last presidential debate on Thursday

 

[Technics 1210]

I'm still going for the Trump win, and I'm basing this on his rallies. They're not rallies, they're rock concerts. With 10000s over flowing and lining his motorcade's path!

You got to see it to believe it. Trump is a natural in pulling crowds.

Very exciting times ahead!

 

[James]

I'm still going for the Trump win, and I'm basing this on his rallies. They're not rallies, they're rock concerts. With 10000s over flowing and lining his motorcade's path!

You got to see it to believe it. Trump is a natural in pulling crowds.

Very exciting times ahead!

People said the same with Jeremy Corbyn’s crowd-pulling abilities, but he catered to a very specific political customer.

The wider electorate comprehensively rejected him every time.

 

[Star_Coffee]

December 31st, 2019, Trump was given a perfect opportunity to bag Nov 3rd, 2020 election, he did not avail it, rather catered to only his base. In the US elections nothing is certain until results are announced but it looks increasing difficult for Trump to be re-elected.

 

[Technics 1210]

People said the same with Jeremy Corbyn’s crowd-pulling abilities, but he catered to a very specific political customer.

The wider electorate comprehensively rejected him every time.

Ahhh but the Amreekan voting public are more gullible. [Tongue firmly in cheek].

Corbyn's policies were appealing, they still are, but he lacked the personality and charisma - he was pretty dull. This has been Labour's problem since Neil Kinnock, excluding Blair.

He made attention simply because he was viewed as a socialist.

Plus UK politics is very different to USA. The grand shows, stages, debates, rallies - all missing from UK politics.

I felt Corbyn was perhaps too left, Trump is the opposite. This guy is a vote magnet.

Oh if you havn't seen it, watch Spitting Image.

 

[MenInG]

Trump attacked Dr Anthony Fauci as a “disaster” on a call with campaign staff.

“People are tired of coronavirus,” the president said. “People are tired of hearing Fauci and all these idiots.” The comments came one day after “60 Minutes” aired an interview with Fauci, in which the infectious disease expert said he was not surprised Trump caught coronavirus because of his activities in the days before he developed symptoms.

The supreme court agreed to hear two cases involving Trump’s controversial immigration policy. One case centers on Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” policy, which requires asylum-seekers to stay in Mexico as their claims are processed. The other focuses on government funding of the US-Mexican border wall.

In-person early voting begins today in the crucial swing state of Florida. Democratic vice-presidential nominee Kamala Harris is holding events in Orlando and Jacksonville today.

 

[MenInG]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ls-tracker-who-is-leading-in-the-swing-states

 

[Robert]

I don’t think Biden will be able to turn back the rising tide of fascism in USA in one term. Though no doubt Kamala will do most of the work as de facto President, and start aggressively stamping on fascist groups such as Proud Boys.

 

[Gilly]

I don’t think Biden will be able to turn back the rising tide of fascism in USA in one term. Though no doubt Kamala will do most of the work as de facto President, and start aggressively stamping on fascist groups such as Proud Boys.

I'm a bit confused by your post, can you explain what you call fascism and how the proud boys are fascists.

 

[Gilly]

I don’t think Biden will be able to turn back the rising tide of fascism in USA in one term. Though no doubt Kamala will do most of the work as de facto President, and start aggressively stamping on fascist groups such as Proud Boys.

If you get time Robert watch this video, it shows you how the media manipulate the news to push people to think a certain way.

 

[JaDed]

Looks like Biden for now

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I'm a bit confused by your post, can you explain what you call fascism and how the proud boys are fascists.

Im from the UK, had never heard of them until Trump told them to stand down. Could you explain more about them? Are you a membet?

 

[Nadeemp]

Im from the UK, had never heard of them until Trump told them to stand down. Could you explain more about them? Are you a membet?

Yes they are fascist. Read up on Gavin Mcciness

 

[Gilly]

Im from the UK, had never heard of them until Trump told them to stand down. Could you explain more about them? Are you a membet?

Me a member, I live n Australia. I wouldent even consider being a member due to the fact they carry arms.

It is hard to find information on them and all I can find is they are anti-racist, pro second amendment and believe that the man is the head of the family.

I'm hoping Robert can explain a bit more.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Me a member, I live n Australia. I wouldent even consider being a member due to the fact they carry arms.

It is hard to find information on them and all I can find is they are anti-racist, pro second amendment and believe that the man is the head of the family.

I'm hoping Robert can explain a bit more.

Fair enough. I think a lot of socially conservative groups in the west who genuinely sometimes have policies I can also identify with, do themselves a bit of a disservice by not booting out far-right racists swiftly enough. Perhaps this is why proud boys have gained this reputation.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yes they are fascist. Read up on Gavin Mcciness

I will do. Thanks!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I genuinely think the trump presidency has some positive aspects aside from the purely entertainment ones. His willingness to scale down American military expeditions abroad is one positive as his pursuit of peace with North Korea, offer to bring India & Pakistan to the table over Kashmir etc.

His negatives seem to be the rising polarization in the US often down to him deliberately sitting on the fence when it comes to white racist movements and perceived lack of action over corona. On a wider scale, I think his actions against Iran are not well thought out and risk destabilising the region further. I also disapprove of moving the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem.

However, when you compare his actions to those of his predecessors who dragged my country ( Britain) into wars and subsequently decimated the Islamic world, you realise who the biggest evil is.

 

[Bigboii]

Yes they are fascist. Read up on Gavin Mcciness

So according to him due to inbreeding muslims are getting r*****d generation by generation

His theory look at Iran and Afghanistan perfectly modern countries are know all covered up and follow sharia that show's they're regressing

Yeah go figure...

(Although inbreeding is a huge problem in muslim countries and some type of education is needed to stop this from happening)

 

[Gilly]

I genuinely think the trump presidency has some positive aspects aside from the purely entertainment ones. His willingness to scale down American military expeditions abroad is one positive as his pursuit of peace with North Korea, offer to bring India & Pakistan to the table over Kashmir etc.

His negatives seem to be the rising polarization in the US often down to him deliberately sitting on the fence when it comes to white racist movements and perceived lack of action over corona. On a wider scale, I think his actions against Iran are not well thought out and risk destabilising the region further. I also disapprove of moving the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem.

However, when you compare his actions to those of his predecessors who dragged my country ( Britain) into wars and subsequently decimated the Islamic world, you realise who the biggest evil is.

The rising polarization in america seems to be due to the democrats not accepting the results of the 2016 election. demcrats have refused to work with Trump and have done everything to disrupt everything Trump does.

Trump has repeatedly disavowed white supremacists (over 20 times on record) but the media continually say he refuses to disavow them. How many times have you heard Biden disavow far left violent extremists groups antifa and BLM.

 

[Star_Coffee]

The rising polarization in america seems to be due to the democrats not accepting the results of the 2016 election. demcrats have refused to work with Trump and have done everything to disrupt everything Trump does.

Trump has repeatedly disavowed white supremacists (over 20 times on record) but the media continually say he refuses to disavow them. How many times have you heard Biden disavow far left violent extremists groups antifa and BLM.

White supremacist wants supremacy of whites only

BLM wants equal rights and an end of systemic racism.

The last time Antifa fought against racism and fascist was in WWII.

Rising polarization is not due to Democrats, the rising polarization is due to Republicans.

White supremacy itself is a polarized and fascist ideology.

Not every person who voted for Trump is a racist but every racist did vote for Trump hoping that he would make America White Again.

 

[Gilly]

White supremacist wants supremacy of whites only

BLM wants equal rights and an end of systemic racism.

The last time Antifa fought against racism and fascist was in WWII.

Rising polarization is not due to Democrats, the rising polarization is due to Republicans.

White supremacy itself is a polarized and fascist ideology.

Not every person who voted for Trump is a racist but every racist did vote for Trump hoping that he would make America White Again.

Who is burning down buildings and rioting and looting shops in america?.