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What a load of bull. They had zero association with Pakistan.
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US sends back 205 illegal Indian immigrants aboard US Air Force’s C-17 Aircraft, tariff whip next
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What does 9/11 have to do with illegal Indian immigrants???
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Indians are getting chained in aeroplanes.
Indians are rushing to try and get c section risking the lives of their unborn babies to remain in America.
It is a sad situation but most would rather fantasize about Bangladesh and imagine the Muslim reaction in a hypothetical deportation exercise.
It's a bit weird.
Indians are rushing to try and get c section risking the lives of their unborn babies to remain in America.
It is a sad situation but most would rather fantasize about Bangladesh and imagine the Muslim reaction in a hypothetical deportation exercise.
It's a bit weird.
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A bit weird? It's totally whack. Nothing makes sense with Indians.
With the exception of a few sane Indians here, the rest of them know deep down that we've nailed the realities of India to the crucifix.
Did you hear about an infamous X user who was stirring racial hatred in western communities? Exposed as a Hindutva cult member Indian. His monkier - Inevitable West.
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This guy spent 40 lakhs INR to enter into USA illegally. 
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Yeah lol I was gna post it here but then thought that it wouldn't have any effect on the Indians here anyway.
Radiogenoa is also one of them.
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Panjabis as usual playing victimhood, if you are paying 42 lakhs to go to US/Canada illegally you arent eating less lol.
Give 42 lakhs to a baniya and see it getting multiplied, Panjab has gone to dogs, rightly all the victims are being exposed on reels.
Give 42 lakhs to a baniya and see it getting multiplied, Panjab has gone to dogs, rightly all the victims are being exposed on reels.
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Who are they paying 40 lakhs to ? Traffickers ?
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Yeah.. multiple people in the middle. I do agree government should find them but this one is more of a fault of the one utilising the services.
40 Lakhs is enough for masters in North America.. they pay illegally because they want to go there without any hardwork.
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What about him?
He got his formal training and radicalization while in Kuwait. Nothing to do with Pakistan or if he was Pakistani. None of the hijackers were Pakistanis. They all got their training in Afghanistan.
Go spread your Indian propaganda somewhere else
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Go easy on him bro, he may be jet lagged.
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When I first moved to the US decades ago, yes this was before 9/11 — I used to order pizza from this pizza joint which was cheaper than the rest. It was owned and run by three Sikh brothers. I struck a friendship with them. They told me they had illegally come to the states in the late 80s through guetamala and Mexico.
A lot of Indians are trekking in this way. There is a process already in place for Latinos who want to cross over. There are coyotes who you pay and they will help you cross over. It’s not easy by any means but people that that chance. They get visas for guetamala then cross into Mexico or if they get visa for Mexico it’s even easier.
Of course this traffic has picked up in recent years and after 9/11 the Americans have made it more difficult but they are still coming through.
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Goes to show not everyone willing to go is a poor laborer starving in India. Many dole out 10-20 lakhs to traffickers to reach North America and Europe.One of them paid nearly 1 crore.
As long a traffickers exist, there will always be fools falling for their promises.
With 1 crore or even 10 lakhs, a person can live happily in a small town or a village. But the greed and mostly fake stories of some dude from their town or city who made it big will serve as an inspiration for many more.
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Is he a Pakistani or not?
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Yup.
Pretty stupid if you think about it.
But, then again, should we expect anything better?
It’s hilarious to see opposition leaders poring in their outrage over the handling of Indian illegals in handcuffs when they arrived. They are giving interviews left and right to journalists and losing their head over the treatment of illegals.
Seems the politicians forgot that the illegals broke the law and made a mockery of the visitors visa they got by overstaying and working in US illegally and not paying any taxes.
It’s a criminal offense to evade taxes and considered fraud in US. First enter illegally and on top of that not pay taxes. Double whammy. They forgot that US laws are strict and are actually implemented.
Seems the politicians forgot that the illegals broke the law and made a mockery of the visitors visa they got by overstaying and working in US illegally and not paying any taxes.
It’s a criminal offense to evade taxes and considered fraud in US. First enter illegally and on top of that not pay taxes. Double whammy. They forgot that US laws are strict and are actually implemented.
Multiple reasons for voting for Trump. And also MAGA folks are nothing like what CNN or MSNBC show, maybe 1% or less but that goes for anything I guess. Reasons :
Illegal immigration - unchecked borders, Biden border policy was a disaster, millions poured in illegally causing huge issues in bigger cities with homelessness, petty crime , abusing the healthcare ER system without paying a penny for it, Biden gov giving funds to these illegals for expenses etc
Birthright citizenship - should be banned for folks who are in the US illegally. No automatic birthright c'ship for them period.
Tariffs - China is the biggest threat for US not Russia like all the Dems and some Reps like to peddle. Folks dont realize how big a threat China is with their economic financial takeover approach, more like East India Company. And no copyright laws in China with blatant copying. They only know the stick approach. Also Trump was the 1st rez to go on the offensive against China in 2016 and Biden actually continued it and even Dems now are against China. He shifted the thinking towards China
Foreign aid - No aid to Ukraine. Such a waste of US tax payer money. Why should the US fund Ukraine war ? Close to $300 billion as of today. 300 Billion ?? Sorry but no.
Wokism - stupid wokism Dem policies which even the Dem voters reject.
LGBT at schools and Government institutions - you are free to practice what you want in private but cant normalize LGBT stuff with kids. Vast majority oppose this incl Dem voters as well. No transgender people in girls locker rooms. No Transgenders in womens sports - that is so stupid . Good thing Trump is banning it now. No trans surgeries for illegals - again stupid wasting taxpayers money
Gaza war - Whatever the outcome, Trump will try to get a resolution for Gaza popular or not
NO starting a war - big big thing. Only prez not to start a war, very anti war. Bashed Bush and Clinton Biden on it . Against sending US soldiers into stupid foreign wars which cost money and take a toll on human life and suffering.
Stupid BLM, nonsense - why only BLM ? All lives matter period. Blacks have so many resources at their disposal, lot of benefits and subsidies. But no, they dont want to study , go to college etc. Indulge in crimes and then claim being victims. Racism is so overblown. Obama won with 40% plus whites voting for him but close to 95% blacks voted for him. Is that not racism ? If all whites vote for Reps, then no Dem will ever win an election for along long time.
Against Trump : abortion. One negative thing that Trump did. Roe vs Wade abortion ban. Should not have touched it. Even Republican men and women support abortion unanimously. Good thing its back to the states now and also there are multiple ways around with with after day pills, Plan B etc.
So tell me - Am I wrong in voting for Trump based on the above as a US citizen ?
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2nd flight with Indians deported from US to land in Amritsar on Saturday: Sources
A second flight carrying Indian immigrants deported from the United States is set to land in Amritsar on February 15, sources said, adding that another flight of deported Indians is expected to arrive after that. This follows the arrival of a US military aircraft carrying 104 deported migrants in Amritsar on February 5, marking one of the largest deportation operations under President Donald Trump's administration.
The decision to land the flight in Amritsar has sparked controversy, with Punjab Finance Minister Harpal Cheema alleging that the BJP-led central government is deliberately targeting Punjab.
"The government wants to defame Punjab by ensuring that aircraft carrying deported Indians land in Amritsar. Why not Haryana or Gujarat? This is clearly an attempt by the BJP to tarnish Punjab's image. This aircraft should land in Ahmedabad instead," Cheema said.
Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri had earlier confirmed that the US has notified India about "487 presumed Indian nationals" who have been issued removal orders. The deportees, who had attempted to enter the US through unauthorised means, alleged that they were subjected to inhumane treatment during their journey, with their hands and legs shackled throughout the flight and unshackled only after landing.
On the issue of mistreatment, Misri called it a "valid concern" and assured that the Indian government would raise the matter with US authorities.
External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar, addressing the Rajya Sabha, informed that deportations of Indian immigrants from the US have been ongoing for years, with 15,668 illegal Indian immigrants deported since 2009. He emphasised that while the process is not new, the government remains committed to ensuring the fair treatment of its citizens.
2nd flight with Indians deported from US to land in Amritsar on Saturday: Sources
A second flight carrying Indians deported from the US is likely to land in Amritsar on February 15. Sources said that another flight carrying illegal Indian immigrants is likely to arrive after that.
Good, No place for illegals in the US. If you are here illegally, then you have yo be prepared for the consequences. Finally , a US prez who is doing his job. Still a drop in the bucket. Millions of illegals here mostly from Mexico and C.America.2nd flight with Indians deported from US to land in Amritsar on Saturday: Sources
A second flight carrying Indian immigrants deported from the United States is set to land in Amritsar on February 15, sources said, adding that another flight of deported Indians is expected to arrive after that. This follows the arrival of a US military aircraft carrying 104 deported migrants in Amritsar on February 5, marking one of the largest deportation operations under President Donald Trump's administration.
The decision to land the flight in Amritsar has sparked controversy, with Punjab Finance Minister Harpal Cheema alleging that the BJP-led central government is deliberately targeting Punjab.
"The government wants to defame Punjab by ensuring that aircraft carrying deported Indians land in Amritsar. Why not Haryana or Gujarat? This is clearly an attempt by the BJP to tarnish Punjab's image. This aircraft should land in Ahmedabad instead," Cheema said.
Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri had earlier confirmed that the US has notified India about "487 presumed Indian nationals" who have been issued removal orders. The deportees, who had attempted to enter the US through unauthorised means, alleged that they were subjected to inhumane treatment during their journey, with their hands and legs shackled throughout the flight and unshackled only after landing.
On the issue of mistreatment, Misri called it a "valid concern" and assured that the Indian government would raise the matter with US authorities.
External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar, addressing the Rajya Sabha, informed that deportations of Indian immigrants from the US have been ongoing for years, with 15,668 illegal Indian immigrants deported since 2009. He emphasised that while the process is not new, the government remains committed to ensuring the fair treatment of its citizens.
2nd flight with Indians deported from US to land in Amritsar on Saturday: Sources
A second flight carrying Indians deported from the US is likely to land in Amritsar on February 15. Sources said that another flight carrying illegal Indian immigrants is likely to arrive after that.www.indiatoday.in
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Indian Man In US Arrested Over Charges Related To Sexual Assault
Trump administration officials have swiftly moved to strip temporary protections for migrants and delegate more authority to federal and state partners.New York:
An Indian national is among four persons arrested by US immigration authorities over charges related to sexual assault.
Jaspal Singh, 29, a citizen of India was arrested on January 29 in Tukwila, Washington.
Singh is charged with “assault with sexual motivation”, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Seattle said in a release last week.
The other individuals arrested are citizens of Mexico, Guatemala and El Salvador. All four will remain in ICE custody pending removal proceedings.
“Protecting our communities, and preventing further victimisation is of paramount importance to ICE throughout the Pacific Northwest,” said ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations Seattle Field Office Director Drew Bostock.
“These arrests reinforce the message that the presence of illegal criminal threats will not be tolerated.” President Donald Trump kicked off his second term in office with an ambitious immigration agenda, promising to deport millions of undocumented immigrants and seal off the US southern border.
Since then, Trump administration officials have swiftly moved to strip temporary protections for migrants and delegate more authority to federal and state partners.
More than 8,000 people have been arrested by federal immigration authorities since Trump's inauguration. Administration officials have not shared exactly how many undocumented immigrants they're aiming to arrest this year, but daily apprehensions have already surpassed last year's daily average under President Joe Biden, CNN reported.
Source: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...ver-charges-related-to-sexual-assault-7661770.
And your reply to this ??
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Houston Islamic Religious Leader Arrested For Alleged Sexual Assault And Indecency With Children
Houston Islamic Religious Leader Arrested For Alleged Sexual Assault And Indecency With Children | Houston Public Media
Fort Bend County Officials believe there are more victims than the four who have come forward.
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Another US Flight Carrying 119 Illegal Indian Immigrants Likely To Land In Amritsar Tomorrow
The second batch of 119 illegal Indian immigrants in the US is likely to be deported in a US plane at Amritsar airport on February 15, as part of a massive crackdown by the Donald Trump administration, according to sources.
This comes days after the first batch of 104 Indian immigrants were flown back to India in a US military aircraft last week. The deportees were handcuffed during the flight which created an uproar in the country, including in the political corridors.
Sources said that the plane is expected to arrive at the airport at around 10 pm on Saturday.
Among the 119 illegal immigrants, 67 belong to Punjab, 33 from Haryana, 8 from Gujarat, 3 from Uttar Pradesh, 2 each from Goa, Maharashtra, and Rajasthan, and 1 each from Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir.
Another plane with the deportees onboard is likely to land on February 16.
After Trump’s inauguration on January 20 this year, his administration has launched a massive crackdown against illegal immigrants.
Several Indians who entered the US through “donkey routes" – an illegal method used by the migrants to get entry into the US and other countries – are being deported.
Several political leaders in Punjab had questioned the landing of a US aircraft in Amritsar.
“The BJP-led Central government wants to defame Punjab. Why does it not land in Gujarat, Haryana or Delhi?" Punjab Finance Minister Harpal Singh Cheema said on Thursday while replying to a question on the likely arrival of another US plane carrying illegal immigrants.
Notably, the Punjab government had recently formed a special investigation team to probe the issue of illegal human trafficking following the deportation of Indian citizens domiciled in Punjab from the US.
The SIT has so far registered 10 FIRs against fraudulent immigration consultants on the statements of deportees, said a senior police official.
www.news18.com
The second batch of 119 illegal Indian immigrants in the US is likely to be deported in a US plane at Amritsar airport on February 15, as part of a massive crackdown by the Donald Trump administration, according to sources.
This comes days after the first batch of 104 Indian immigrants were flown back to India in a US military aircraft last week. The deportees were handcuffed during the flight which created an uproar in the country, including in the political corridors.
Sources said that the plane is expected to arrive at the airport at around 10 pm on Saturday.
Among the 119 illegal immigrants, 67 belong to Punjab, 33 from Haryana, 8 from Gujarat, 3 from Uttar Pradesh, 2 each from Goa, Maharashtra, and Rajasthan, and 1 each from Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir.
Another plane with the deportees onboard is likely to land on February 16.
After Trump’s inauguration on January 20 this year, his administration has launched a massive crackdown against illegal immigrants.
Several Indians who entered the US through “donkey routes" – an illegal method used by the migrants to get entry into the US and other countries – are being deported.
Several political leaders in Punjab had questioned the landing of a US aircraft in Amritsar.
“The BJP-led Central government wants to defame Punjab. Why does it not land in Gujarat, Haryana or Delhi?" Punjab Finance Minister Harpal Singh Cheema said on Thursday while replying to a question on the likely arrival of another US plane carrying illegal immigrants.
Notably, the Punjab government had recently formed a special investigation team to probe the issue of illegal human trafficking following the deportation of Indian citizens domiciled in Punjab from the US.
The SIT has so far registered 10 FIRs against fraudulent immigration consultants on the statements of deportees, said a senior police official.
Another US Flight Carrying 119 Illegal Indian Immigrants Likely To Land In Amritsar Tomorrow - News18
The development comes days after 104 illegal Indian immigrants were deported to India in shackles, creating an uproar in the political corridors in the country.
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More and more Indian asylum seekers to US are speaking a different tongue
The times they are a changin, and that's true for the illegal immigration trend in the US too. While Punjabi-speaking asylum-seekers formed 66% of all Indian illegal immigrants in the US from 2001 to 2022, Hindi-speaking undocumented Indians have surged past them in recent years.
An analysis by two Johns Hopkins University researchers found that around 66% of all asylum petitions filed from 2001 to 2022 by Indian nationals came from Punjabi speakers. In that time period, the share of Hindi-speakers among Indian illegal immigrants was 14%. However, between 2017 and 2022, the number of Hindi-speaking undocumented citizens in the US grew by 30%.
Punjabi-speaking individuals have consistently been the most dominant among Indian asylum seekers for over 20 years, according to court records accessed through Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC).
The Johns Hopkins study was released on February 10, and coincided with the deportation of illegal immigrants from the US to their home country.
On February 5, 104 undocumented immigrants were deported to India. Another flight from the US is expected to land in Amritsar with 119 such Indians on February 15. A third such plane with deportees is slated to land on February 16.
There are around 6,75,000 undocumented Indian immigrants in the US, according to a Pew Research report. The number of total Indians in the US is 5.1 million.
Indians' asylum claims increased from 6,000 in 2020 to more than 51,000 in 2023, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). This is an eightfold increase in their migration numbers. The total number of Indian asylum seekers in the US has increased by 470% in the past 5 years.
Between 2001 and 2022, around 66% of all asylum petitions filed by Indian nationals came from Punjabi speakers, suggesting that a large portion of these individuals likely hailed from Punjab or nearby states like Haryana.
A significant rise is also seen in the rise of Hindi-speaking undocumented immigrants in the US.
Traditionally, Hindi speakers made up about 14% of Indian asylum cases. However, data by TRAC shows that between 2017 and 2022, this share has nearly doubled to 30%.
This trend suggests a growing diversity among Indian migrants, with more people from Hindi-speaking regions now seeking asylum in the US.
Other language groups are not far behind.
English speakers contributed to around 8% of asylum cases, followed by Gujarati speakers at 7%.
The number of petitions heard by these Indian language groups is also fairly larger than other language groups.
63% OF PUNJABI-SPEAKING, 25% GUJARATI PETITIONERS GRANTED ASYLUM
The US immigration judges have granted 63% of cases involving Punjabi speakers and 58% of cases involving Hindi speakers, but only 25% of cases petitioned by Gujarati speakers were granted.
These disparities make one question whether different groups were being treated equally under the existing asylum procedure.
Research by Budiman and Kapur states that economic factors are a major reason behind immigration. It highlights the data from the 2019-2022 American Community Survey (ACS), that amongst all Indians living in the US, those who speak Punjabi at home have the lowest average income, around USD 48,000.
In comparison, Gujarati speakers earn about USD 58,000 on average. This difference in income suggests that economic struggles in places like Punjab push people to migrate in search of better financial opportunities.
COST OF MIGRATING TO US 100 TIMES AN AVERAGE INDIAN'S INCOME
The cost of migrating is also extremely high, often ranging from 30 to 100 times India’s average income per person.Because of these high costs, only people with significant assets, like land, can afford to start the process.
More people are asking for asylum in the US as immigration rules change rapidly. At the same time, the government is trying new ways to stop illegal border crossings.
For example, in the first week of President Trump's second term, the U.S. government closed the CBP One app—a tool that had helped thousands of migrants schedule appointments for their asylum cases.
This shutdown cancelled almost 300,000 migrant appointments, including many asylum cases.
Recent studies on asylum claims show a complicated situation. Even as Trump enforces stricter immigration rules, the number of formal asylum applications keeps rising—mainly from Punjabi speakers, with a growing number of Hindi speakers.
As immigration policies focus on both border security and humanitarian considerations, the experiences of these migrants highlight the economic factors that contribute to global migration today.
More and more Indian asylum seekers to US are speaking a different tongue
Punjabi speakers formed 66% of all asylum-seekers from India from 2001 to 2022, according to an analysis by Johns Hopkins University researchers. However, the five years from 2017 to 2022 saw a 30% rise in asylum petitions being filed in the US by Hindi-speaking Indians.
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Stop coming into the US illegally if you don’t want to be packed and sent back in a military plane. Period. It’s a crime and any criminal must face the punishment befitting the crime.
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More and more Indian asylum seekers to US are speaking a different tongue
The times they are a changin, and that's true for the illegal immigration trend in the US too. While Punjabi-speaking asylum-seekers formed 66% of all Indian illegal immigrants in the US from 2001 to 2022, Hindi-speaking undocumented Indians have surged past them in recent years.
An analysis by two Johns Hopkins University researchers found that around 66% of all asylum petitions filed from 2001 to 2022 by Indian nationals came from Punjabi speakers. In that time period, the share of Hindi-speakers among Indian illegal immigrants was 14%. However, between 2017 and 2022, the number of Hindi-speaking undocumented citizens in the US grew by 30%.
Punjabi-speaking individuals have consistently been the most dominant among Indian asylum seekers for over 20 years, according to court records accessed through Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC).
The Johns Hopkins study was released on February 10, and coincided with the deportation of illegal immigrants from the US to their home country.
On February 5, 104 undocumented immigrants were deported to India. Another flight from the US is expected to land in Amritsar with 119 such Indians on February 15. A third such plane with deportees is slated to land on February 16.
There are around 6,75,000 undocumented Indian immigrants in the US, according to a Pew Research report. The number of total Indians in the US is 5.1 million.
Indians' asylum claims increased from 6,000 in 2020 to more than 51,000 in 2023, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). This is an eightfold increase in their migration numbers. The total number of Indian asylum seekers in the US has increased by 470% in the past 5 years.
Between 2001 and 2022, around 66% of all asylum petitions filed by Indian nationals came from Punjabi speakers, suggesting that a large portion of these individuals likely hailed from Punjab or nearby states like Haryana.
A significant rise is also seen in the rise of Hindi-speaking undocumented immigrants in the US.
Traditionally, Hindi speakers made up about 14% of Indian asylum cases. However, data by TRAC shows that between 2017 and 2022, this share has nearly doubled to 30%.
This trend suggests a growing diversity among Indian migrants, with more people from Hindi-speaking regions now seeking asylum in the US.
Other language groups are not far behind.
English speakers contributed to around 8% of asylum cases, followed by Gujarati speakers at 7%.
The number of petitions heard by these Indian language groups is also fairly larger than other language groups.
63% OF PUNJABI-SPEAKING, 25% GUJARATI PETITIONERS GRANTED ASYLUM
The US immigration judges have granted 63% of cases involving Punjabi speakers and 58% of cases involving Hindi speakers, but only 25% of cases petitioned by Gujarati speakers were granted.
These disparities make one question whether different groups were being treated equally under the existing asylum procedure.
Research by Budiman and Kapur states that economic factors are a major reason behind immigration. It highlights the data from the 2019-2022 American Community Survey (ACS), that amongst all Indians living in the US, those who speak Punjabi at home have the lowest average income, around USD 48,000.
In comparison, Gujarati speakers earn about USD 58,000 on average. This difference in income suggests that economic struggles in places like Punjab push people to migrate in search of better financial opportunities.
COST OF MIGRATING TO US 100 TIMES AN AVERAGE INDIAN'S INCOME
The cost of migrating is also extremely high, often ranging from 30 to 100 times India’s average income per person.
Because of these high costs, only people with significant assets, like land, can afford to start the process.
More people are asking for asylum in the US as immigration rules change rapidly. At the same time, the government is trying new ways to stop illegal border crossings.
For example, in the first week of President Trump's second term, the U.S. government closed the CBP One app—a tool that had helped thousands of migrants schedule appointments for their asylum cases.
This shutdown cancelled almost 300,000 migrant appointments, including many asylum cases.
Recent studies on asylum claims show a complicated situation. Even as Trump enforces stricter immigration rules, the number of formal asylum applications keeps rising—mainly from Punjabi speakers, with a growing number of Hindi speakers.
As immigration policies focus on both border security and humanitarian considerations, the experiences of these migrants highlight the economic factors that contribute to global migration today.
More and more Indian asylum seekers to US are speaking a different tongue
Punjabi speakers formed 66% of all asylum-seekers from India from 2001 to 2022, according to an analysis by Johns Hopkins University researchers. However, the five years from 2017 to 2022 saw a 30% rise in asylum petitions being filed in the US by Hindi-speaking Indians.
Why are people from "5th largest economy" migrating like this? Quite embarrassing.
I never hear any Chinese person migrating like this.
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Because it’s easy to get out of India, but not China. Think of the type of government in each country - democracy vs communism. India is the most populous country in the world and it’s numbers are expectedly higher.Why are people from "5th largest economy" migrating like this? Quite embarrassing.
I never hear any Chinese person migrating like this.
I am sure Trump already spoke to Jai Shankar at the searing in ceremony that his Giverment will be packing all illegal Gujjus and Panjus back to India soon in handcuffs.
Jai Shankar would have said do it as you please. Your country, your rules. That is exactly what Trump did. You break the law, you face the punishment.
In the community I live, one of my acquaintance is a Gujju guy who emigrated in 80’s. Extremely hardworking. His only son is a surgeon and now they are well to do family. He was naturalized eventually. But he came in illegally initially decades ago. His wife is scared that Trump might deport them too. Not sure how this is going to work.
naturalized citizens will be OK. Trump must have evaluated all the options before he moved in. The existing illegals are the one he's after. Illegals who came in decades ago and are naturalized - well it is what is I guess, it was under the previous gov rules. Good that Trump is enforcing all the laws on people who break the law and come in illegally or overstay illegally
Do you how many illegal Chinese are in the US ? Illegal Chinese migrant apartments all over Chinatowns. Know your stuff before you spout your knowledge. Why do the CHinese want to immigrate to the US inspite of being the 2nd biggest economy ? Because US is a developed country with democracy. And to talk of Ban brothers - well better to stay silent I guess LOL ! They immigrate illegally to Ind - that should say it allWhy are people from "5th largest economy" migrating like this? Quite embarrassing.
I never hear any Chinese person migrating like this.
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US aircraft carrying 119 Indian deportees lands in Amritsar
A plane carrying 119 Indian deportees from the United States landed at Amritsar airport on Saturday.
This is the second such batch of Indians to be deported by the Donald Trump administration as part of its promised crackdown on illegal migration.
According to officials, of the 119 deportees, 67 are from Punjab, and 33 are from Haryana.
Eight are from Gujarat, three from Uttar Pradesh, two each from Goa, Maharashtra and Rajasthan, and one each is from Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir.
Earlier on Saturday, Punjab chief minister Bhagwant Mann visited the international airport in Amritsar, and said his government has made arrangements to take the Punjab residents from among the second batch of deportees to their hometowns. "Our vehicles are ready to take them to their places," he said.
A third plane carrying 157 deportees is also expected to land on Sunday, PTI reported, citing unidentified officials.
First flight and handcuff controversy
Earlier, a US Air Force plane carrying Indian deportees arrived in Amritsar on February 5. A total of 104 Indian nationals were on board the plane that landed in Amritsar.
Many deportees claimed that their hands and legs were cuffed throughout the journey and they were unshackled only after landing in Amritsar.
This triggered nationwide outrage, with the opposition demanding Prime Minister Narendra Modi to raise the issue with the US during his visit to Washington.
Congress president Mallikarjun Kharge had alleged that the Indian migrants were treated “even worse than garbage”.
After a widespread outcry in India, New Delhi had conveyed its concerns to Washington about the treatment of deportees.
Punjab CM targets Centre
Ahead of the plane's arrival, Punjab CM Bhagwant Mann targeted the Central government over the landing of US planes Indian deportees at Amritsar airport and asked it not to make the holy city a "deport centre".
Do not make our holy city (Amritsar) a deport centre." There are many airbases in the country and the flight can be landed at any one of them, the Punjab chief minister said.
He said Amritsar is known for the Golden Temple, Durgiana Mandir, Ram Tirath temple, Jallianwala Bagh and Gobindgarh Fort. "Will they allow landing (of deportation flights) at Vatican City, if they (deportees) hail from there?" Mann posed.
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A plane carrying 119 Indian deportees from the United States landed at Amritsar airport on Saturday.
This is the second such batch of Indians to be deported by the Donald Trump administration as part of its promised crackdown on illegal migration.
According to officials, of the 119 deportees, 67 are from Punjab, and 33 are from Haryana.
Eight are from Gujarat, three from Uttar Pradesh, two each from Goa, Maharashtra and Rajasthan, and one each is from Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir.
Earlier on Saturday, Punjab chief minister Bhagwant Mann visited the international airport in Amritsar, and said his government has made arrangements to take the Punjab residents from among the second batch of deportees to their hometowns. "Our vehicles are ready to take them to their places," he said.
A third plane carrying 157 deportees is also expected to land on Sunday, PTI reported, citing unidentified officials.
First flight and handcuff controversy
Earlier, a US Air Force plane carrying Indian deportees arrived in Amritsar on February 5. A total of 104 Indian nationals were on board the plane that landed in Amritsar.
Many deportees claimed that their hands and legs were cuffed throughout the journey and they were unshackled only after landing in Amritsar.
This triggered nationwide outrage, with the opposition demanding Prime Minister Narendra Modi to raise the issue with the US during his visit to Washington.
Congress president Mallikarjun Kharge had alleged that the Indian migrants were treated “even worse than garbage”.
After a widespread outcry in India, New Delhi had conveyed its concerns to Washington about the treatment of deportees.
Punjab CM targets Centre
Ahead of the plane's arrival, Punjab CM Bhagwant Mann targeted the Central government over the landing of US planes Indian deportees at Amritsar airport and asked it not to make the holy city a "deport centre".
Do not make our holy city (Amritsar) a deport centre." There are many airbases in the country and the flight can be landed at any one of them, the Punjab chief minister said.
He said Amritsar is known for the Golden Temple, Durgiana Mandir, Ram Tirath temple, Jallianwala Bagh and Gobindgarh Fort. "Will they allow landing (of deportation flights) at Vatican City, if they (deportees) hail from there?" Mann posed.
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Total of around 500 have been deported since Trump took office.
Many more to go. There are over 700K illegal Indians in USA (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...out-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/).
Yes, all need to be deported. And there are close to 10 million Mexican and C.American illegals. Plus hundreds of thousands of Chinese.Total of around 500 have been deported since Trump took office.
Many more to go. There are over 700K illegal Indians in USA (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...out-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/).
Chinese Illegal Border Crossings Spike by 7,000 Percent. Only China Knows Why
The problem with unaddressed crises is that they tend to metastasize. New crises develop within the chaos of the former, and the vicious cycle continues. President Joe Biden’s border crisis has created several other crises, but one issue stands out among the rest. The number of Chinese nationals...
Why are Chinese illegally coming to the US?? They are the 2nd biggest world economy. Care to explain ??
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Yes, all need to be deported. And there are close to 10 million Mexican and C.American illegals. Plus hundreds of thousands of Chinese.
Chinese Illegal Border Crossings Spike by 7,000 Percent. Only China Knows Why
The problem with unaddressed crises is that they tend to metastasize. New crises develop within the chaos of the former, and the vicious cycle continues. President Joe Biden’s border crisis has created several other crises, but one issue stands out among the rest. The number of Chinese nationals...www.hudson.org
Why are Chinese illegally coming to the US?? They are the 2nd biggest world economy. Care to explain ??
I checked the Chinese numbers. It is very negligible (less than 30,000).
Mexico, El Salvador, and India are the top 3 when it comes to illegal migration in USA (each group has over 700K illegal immigrants) --> https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...out-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/.
The Chinese numbers are the illegals that entered in 2023 for 1 yr. Not the overall. This should help :I checked the Chinese numbers. It is very negligible (less than 30,000).
Mexico, El Salvador, and India are the top 3 when it comes to illegal migration in USA (each group has over 700K illegal immigrants) --> https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...out-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/.
Profile of the Unauthorized Population:
United States
| Demographics | Estimate | % of Total |
| Unauthorized Population | 11,047,000 | 100% |
| Top Countries of Birth | ||
| Mexico | 5,313,000 | 48% |
| El Salvador | 741,000 | 7% |
| Guatemala | 724,000 | 7% |
| India | 553,000 | 5% |
| Honduras | 490,000 | 4% |
| Regions of Birth | ||
| Mexico and Central America | 7,381,000 | 67% |
| Caribbean | 327,000 | 3% |
| South America | 907,000 | 8% |
| Europe/Canada/Oceania | 440,000 | 4% |
| Asia | 1,697,000 | 15% |
| Africa | 295,000 | 3% |
For India"s population , the illegal number is pretty low. Check out Asia at 15% which will be dominated by Chinese
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Sikh deportees seen without turbans in viral video, top religious body slams US
A video showing Sikh deportees from the US without turbans (dastar) while they were completing their immigration formalities at the Amritsar airport went viral on social media, drawing condemnation from the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC).
One of the Sikh deportees, who was among the 116 illegal Indian immigrants who landed in Amritsar on a US military aircraft on February 15, claimed they were not wearing turbans. He also said they were asked to remove their turbans when they entered the US illegally.
In the video, a group of men is seen sitting on the floor at the Amritsar airport without their turbans. The illegal immigrants are pictured in front of the arrival gate, which is a glass door.
The SGPC strongly condemned the US authorities' action of allegedly not allowing the Sikh deportees to wear their turbans, a mark of identity for the Sikh community.
SGPC officials, who were deputed for providing langar (community service) and bus service for the illegal Indian immigrants at the Amritsar airport, provided turbans to the Sikh deportees.
One of the deportees also claimed they were in shackles during their journey from the US to India, a concern raised by the Opposition parties. The fresh batch of deportees included 65 immigrants from Punjab, 33 from Haryana and eight from Gujarat.
Reacting to the controversy, SGPC general secretary Gurcharan Singh Grewal said, "It is a matter of regret that deportees were brought in shackles and Sikh deportees were not wearing turbans."
He said the SGPC will flag the issue with the US authorities soon. "Turban is a part of a Sikh," he added.
Shiromani Akali Dal leader Bikram Singh Majithia also condemned the US authorities for allegedly sending the Sikh deportees without their turbans.
He urged the Ministry of External Affairs to immediately take up the matter with the US authorities, saying such incidents should never be repeated in the future.
The matter came to light days after Prime Minister Narendra Modi went to the US and met with President Donald Trump. PM Modi assured that India was willing to take all the verified and undocumented immigrants back amid Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration in his country.
332 ILLEGAL INDIAN IMMIGRANTS BACK HOME ON 3 US FLIGHTS
On Sunday, a US military aircraft carrying 112 Indians living illegally in that country landed at the Amritsar airport. Of the 112 deportees, 44 of them were from Haryana, 33 from Gujarat, 31 from Punjab, two from Uttar Pradesh, and one each from Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh. Among the illegal immigrants were 19 women and 14 minors, including two infants.
The deportees from Punjab and Haryana were taken to their respective destinations around 4.45 am on Monday following the completion of formalities such as immigration, verification and background checks.
On February 5, a US military aircraft carrying the first batch of 104 illegal Indian immigrants landed in Amritsar. Among them, 33 each were from Haryana and Gujarat, and 30 from Punjab.
A second US plane carrying 116 illegal Indian immigrants landed at Amritsar airport on February 15, with the men among the deportees claiming they were in shackles throughout the flight and Sikh youths were allegedly without turbans.
Of these 116 deportees, 65 were from Punjab, 33 from Haryana, eight from Gujarat, two each from Uttar Pradesh, Goa, Maharashtra and Rajasthan, and one each from Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir.
The US has deported a total of 332 illegal Indian immigrants on all three flights so far.
The landing of these deportation flights in Amritsar has been questioned by several Opposition leaders, including Punjab Chief Minister Bhagwant Mann, who accused the BJP-led Centre of trying to "defame Punjab as part of a conspiracy".
The BJP hit back, saying the Opposition was blowing the issue out of proportion.
Sikh deportees seen without turbans in viral video, top religious body slams US
A controversy erupted after Sikh deportees from the US were seen without their turbans at the Amritsar airport. The SGPC and Shiromani Akali Dal slammed the US authorities for allegedly not allowing the Sikh deportees to wear their turbans.
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Turban thrown in dustbin, tortured in US detention camp: Deportee recounts horror
Jatinder Singh, who was among the 112 illegal Indian immigrants deported from the US to Amritsar on Sunday, narrated his ordeal about his two-week stay at a detention camp there, saying he was tortured and didn't get proper food. He alleged that the US Army threw his turban (dastar) in the dustbin after forcing him to take it out.
Singh, 23, said he wanted to settle abroad with a job to support his family due to lack of employment opportunities in Amritsar. He also alleged that he was in shackles for around 36 hours on the US military aircraft that brought him and 111 undocumented Indians back to Amritsar on Sunday night.
"I was sent to a detention camp for two weeks after I was caught entering the US border on November 27 last year. I left home on September 12 last year. At the detention camp, they made me remove my turban despite my objection. They said it was their rule and threw the turban in the dustbin," he told India Today TV in an exclusive interview.
He claimed that the US Army turned on the air conditioner at a low temperature and increased the heater power, which resulted in his skin being dry. "I did not have proper food there at all. They only gave me just Lay's chips and Frooti juice two times a day," he said.
Jatinder Singh said he came in contact with an agent in November 2024 on the advice of his friends and paid him Rs 50 lakh after he was promised to take him to the US. "My family sold all the land they had (1.3 acres) and I gave Rs 22 lakh to the agent in advance. I also sold off the jewelleries of my two married sisters and paid the remaining amount to the agent," he said.
He also said that the agent told him that he would enter the US by first covering the jungles of Panama for three days and boarding a plane to Mexico, from where he would enter the US border from Tijuana.
Asked whether he was not aware that undertaking a risky journey to the US would lead to deportation, Jatinder Singh said, "The agent said there would be no issues. He said he had the experience of ensuring illegal immigrants crossed the border safely without being caught."
He stressed that the jungles of Panama were very dense and that he saw the bodies of illegal immigrants, which he said, was a "depressing" sight to watch.
"The agent cheated me and he fled halfway. It took me three days to cross the Panama jungles. When I finally crossed the US border, the border police caught me and kept me in a detention camp where I was tortured," he said.
Jatinder Singh claimed that he was kept in shackles on the US military plane and asserted that men and children were not restrained during the 36-hour flight.
"My hands were handcuffed and legs tied. We faced issues related to food and access to the washroom. They opened our shackles 10 minutes before the flight landed," he said, adding he would now look for a job in India and never go abroad.
Concerns over the treatment of deported Indian immigrants intensified earlier this month after a US Air Force plane carrying 104 deportees landed in Amritsar on February 5. Some of those on board said they were restrained with handcuffs on their wrists and ankles for the duration of the flight and were only freed after arriving in India.
Turban thrown in dustbin, tortured in US detention camp: Deportee recounts horror
A 23-year-old man who was deported from the US to Amritsar along with 111 others on Sunday alleged he faced torture in a detention camp when he was caught entering the US illegally. He claimed he was in shackles on the deportation flight.
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Illegal and unseen: Nine surprising facts about Indians in the US
Donald Trump has made the mass deportation of undocumented foreign nationals a key policy, with the US said to have identified about 18,000 Indian nationals it believes entered illegally.
Last week Narendra Modi said India would take back its nationals who were in the US illegally, and also crack down on the "human trafficking ecosystem".
"These are children of very ordinary families, and they are lured by big dreams and promises," he said during his visit to Washington.
Now a new paper by Abby Budiman and Devesh Kapur from Johns Hopkins University has shed light on the numbers, demographics, entry methods, locations and trends relating to undocumented Indians over time.
Here are some of the more striking findings.
How many illegal Indians are in the US?
Unauthorised immigrants make up 3% of the US population and 22% of the foreign-born population.
The number of undocumented Indians among them is contested however, with estimates varying widely due to differing calculation methods.
Pew Research Center and Center for Migration Studies of New York (CMS) estimate some 700,000 people as of 2022, making them the third-largest group after Mexico and El Salvador.
In contrast, the Migration Policy Institute (MPI) puts the figure at 375,000, ranking India fifth among origin countries.
The official government data from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) offers yet another picture, reporting 220,000 unauthorised Indians in 2022.
The vast differences in estimates highlight the uncertainty surrounding the true size of the undocumented Indian population, according to the study.
Yet numbers have dropped from their peak
Indian migrants make up only a small share of the overall unauthorised migrant population in the US.
If Pew and CMS estimates are accurate, nearly one in four Indian immigrants in the US is undocumented - an unlikely scenario given migration patterns, the study says. (Indian immigrants are one of the fastest-growing groups in the US, surging from 600,000 in 1990 to 3.2 million in 2022.)
The DHS estimated in 2022 that the undocumented Indian population in the US dropped 60% from its 2016 peak, falling from 560,000 to 220,000.
How did the number of undocumented Indians drop so steeply from 2016 to 2022? Mr Kapur says the data doesn't provide a clear answer, but plausible explanations could be that some obtained legal status while others returned, particularly due to COVID-related hardships.
However, this estimate doesn't reflect a 2023 surge in Indians at US borders, meaning the actual number could now be higher.
Despite rising border encounters, US government estimates show no clear increase in the overall undocumented Indian population from the US financial year (FY) 2020 to 2022, according to the study.
Encounters refer to instances where non-citizens are stopped by US authorities while attempting to cross the country's borders with Mexico or Canada.
Visa overstays by Indians have remained steady at 1.5% since 2016.
The number of Indian recipients of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Daca) has also declined from 2,600 in 2017 to 1,600 in 2024. The Daca programme protects migrants who came to the US as children.
To sum up: the undocumented Indian population grew both in numbers and as a share of all unauthorised migrants, rising from 0.8% in 1990 to 3.9% in 2015 before dropping to 2% in 2022.
A surge - and shifting migration routes
The US has two main land borders.
The southern border along the states of Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas bordering Mexico sees the most migrant crossings. Then there's the US-Canada border spanning 11 states.
Before 2010, encounters involving Indians at the two borders were minimal, never exceeding 1,000.
Since 2010, nearly all encounters involving Indians occurred along the US-Mexico southern border.
In FY 2024, encounters of Indian nationals on the northern border surged to 36% of all Indian crossings, up from just 4% the previous year.
Canada had become a more accessible entry point for Indians, with a shorter visitor visa processing times than US.
Also, there was a surge in attempted border crossings from 2021 onwards, and the encounters at the Mexico border peaked in 2023.
"This is not specific to Indians. It is part of a larger surge of migrants trying to come into the US after Biden was elected. It is as if there was a high tide of migrants and Indians were a part of it," Mr Kapur told me.
Where are the illegal Indians staying?
The study finds that the states with the largest Indian immigrant populations -California (112,000), Texas (61,000), New Jersey (55,000), New York (43,000) and Illinois (31,000) - also have the highest numbers of unauthorised Indian immigrants.
Indians make up a significant share of the total unauthorised population in Ohio (16%), Michigan (14%), New Jersey (12%) and Pennsylvania (11%).
Meanwhile, states where more than 20% of Indian immigrants are unauthorised include Tennessee, Indiana, Georgia, Wisconsin and California.
"We expect this because it's easier to blend in and find work in an ethnic business - like a Gujarati working for a Gujarati-American or a Punjabi/Sikh in a similar setup," Mr Kapur told me.
Who are the Indians seeking asylum?
The US immigration system allows people who are detained at the border who fear persecution in their home countries to undergo credible "fear screenings". Those who pass can seek asylum in court, leading to a rise in asylum applications alongside rising border apprehensions.
Administrative data doesn't reveal the exact demographics of Indian asylum seekers, but court records on spoken languages provide some insight.
Punjabi-speakers from India have dominated Indian asylum claims since 2001. After Punjabi, Indian asylum seekers spoke Hindi (14%), English (8%) and Gujarati (7%).
They have filed 66% of asylum cases from FY 2001–2022, suggesting Punjab and the neighbouring state of Haryana as key migrant sources.
Punjabi speakers from India also had the highest asylum approval rate (63%), followed by Hindi speakers (58%). In contrast, only a quarter of Gujarati speakers' cases were approved.
'Gaming the system' - why asylum claims are rising
US data collected by Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) shows Indian asylum requests in the US have skyrocketed.
The requests jumped tenfold in just two years, rising from about 5,000 in 2021 to over 51,000 in 2023.
While this spike is most dramatic in the US, similar trends are seen in Canada, the UK and Australia, where Indians are among the largest asylum-seeking groups, the study says.
Mr Kapur believes this is "largely a way to game the asylum system rather than an objective fear of persecution, as processing takes years".
Given the large number of Punjabi-speakers who seek asylum, it's unclear what has changed in the northern Indian state ruled by the Congress party (2017-22) and latterly the Aam Aadmi Party (2022–present) to drive this surge.
Under Trump's second presidency, asylum requests are set to plummet.
Within his first week, a key app for migrants was shut down and removed from app stores, cancelling nearly 300,000 pending appointments, including asylum cases already in progress.
What do asylum seekers tell us about India?
US data shows most Indian asylum seekers are Punjabi and Gujarati - groups from India's wealthier states, better able to afford high migration costs.
In contrast, Indian Muslims and marginalised communities and people from conflict zones like the regions affected by Maoist violence and Kashmir, rarely seek asylum, the study says.
So most Indian asylum seekers are economic migrants, not from the country's poorest or conflict-hit regions.
The arduous journey to the US - whether via Latin America or as "fake" students in Canada - costs 30-100 times India's per capita income, making it accessible only to those with assets to sell or pledge, the study says.
Not surprisingly, Punjab and Gujarat - top origin states for unauthorised Indians - are among India's wealthier regions, where land values far exceed returns from farming.
"Even illegality takes a lot of money to pursue," the study says.
What's fuelling illegal Indian migration?
While rising asylum claims may seem linked to "democratic backsliding" in India, correlation isn't causation, the authors say .
Punjab and Gujarat have long histories of emigration, with migrants heading not just to the US but also the UK, Canada and Australia.
Remittances - India received an estimated $120bn in 2023 - fuel aspirations for a better life, driven not by poverty but "relative deprivation", as families seek to match the success of others abroad, the study says.
A parallel industry of agents and brokers in India has cashed in on this demand.
The Indian government, says the study, "has looked the other way, likely because the issue of illegal migration is much more a burden for receiving than sending countries".
How many Indians have been deported?
Between 2009 and 2024, around 16,000 Indians were deported, according to India's ministry of external affairs.
These deportations averaged 750 per year under Obama, 1,550 under Trump's first term, and 900 under Biden.
Indian migrant removals spiked between FY 2023 and 2024, but the peak was in 2020 with nearly 2,300 deportations.
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