Use Batting Average of last 3 years from Pakistan FC domestic (Grade A) for picking out batsmen

[srh]

Inzi bhai,

Please use moving average calculation of batting average in last 3 years FC domestic (Grade A) for national team selection. [Last 3 years rule will make sure that a batsman is experienced enough to be ready for international cricket].

So suppose a batsman X average 45 in Year 1, 35 in Year 2 and 40 in Year 3 then his moving average is 40. Now compare him with other batsmen and most likely he would not make the national team on merit.

Now suppose batsman X average 60 in Year 4. Now his moving average in last 3 years is 45. Now compare him with other batsmen and most likely he would still not make the national team on merit.

Now suppose batsman X average 55 in Year 5. Now his moving average in last 3 years is ~52. Now compare him with other batsmen and most likely he will make the national team on merit.

Dont select batsmen with inferior batting averages in FC domestic (Grade A) and expect them that they will overachieve in test matches. Thats just plain wrong.

 

[Convict]

Batting averages are one of the worst metrics for measuring a players ability.

Even wagon wheels are superior.

 

[Syed1]

Batting averages are one of the worst metrics for measuring a players ability.

Even wagon wheels are superior.

So a guy who scores 10 runs but hits it to all parts is better than a guy who scores 40 runs but only hits it to one part of the ground?

 

[Convict]

So a guy who scores 10 runs but hits it to all parts is better than a guy who scores 40 runs but only hits it to one part of the ground?

Well comparing from one game is useless. Obviously a guy needs to be able to score runs at that level.

Looking at various wagon wheels for a player gives you an idea of what kind of player they actually are though.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

We'd be left with Fawad, the Khurram's and what have you. No thanks.

We need to invest in technically sound batsmen who're capable of scoring fluently.

 

[itsme]

Selectors have to watched the matches for a change

 

[srh]

We'd be left with Fawad, the Khurram's and what have you. No thanks.

We need to invest in technically sound batsmen who're capable of scoring fluently.

Those technically sound batsmen who are capable of scoring fluently have to score runs first in domestics before being considered for national team selection. All Pakistani batsmen greats used to average very high in domestic cricket.

 

[Pete Rose]

We'd be left with Fawad, the Khurram's and what have you. No thanks.

We need to invest in technically sound batsmen who're capable of scoring fluently.

Any analysis that throws up fawad khurrum or farhat at the top is clearly worthless.
I would go as far as to ignore kamran akmal as well: not because he is a poor player but because his mental weaknesses are well established

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Those technically sound batsmen who are capable of scoring fluently have to score runs first in domestics before being considered for national team selection. All Pakistani batsmen greats used to average very high in domestic cricket.

Those guys played county cricket

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Shouldn't pay too put attention to stats in our domestic cricket where limited batsmen rule

 

[ExplicitAI]

It's quite rare to see a batting talent come straight out of domestic cricket and become a solid member of our ODI team, only have a few like Babar and Haris.

 

[Kakar]

Khurram Manzoor averages 37 for the record. Don't know why people are mentioning him. Only here people take exception as a rule. Oh look Farhat averages high in domestic cricket. Domestic average is no indication of international performance. Who cares if there are 10 others whose domestic performances corroborate with their international performances. Graeme Hick averaged 50+ in county cricket and 31 in test cricket. So, county cricket is poor and shouldn't be taken as a standard for selecting a player? Michael Bevan averaged 53 in first class cricket but 29 in test cricket. I guess Shield cricket is poor too and shouldn't be considered while selecting a player?
More often than not, first class performances give a fair indication of performances at international stage. If someone has a solid technique, he will perform at domestic stage too. If someone is performing at domestic stage and appears to have technical deficiencies, it is possible that his technique is more unorthodox than faulty. A few exceptions shouldn't lead to disregarding whole system.

 

[srh]

If a batsman with good technique cannot average even 40 in Pakistan domestic cricket, why Inzi thinks he will average 40+ in international cricket?

The only way it can happen is if international cricket is inferior to Pakistan domestic cricket which is crazy to even think this way