Usman Qadir, son of Abdul Qadir applies for South African nationality

[saeed5646]

Usman Qadir is a PakistanI cricketer. He is son of former Test cricketer Abdul Qadir .Usman is leg spinner and left arm batsmen who has played two Under-19 World Cups for Pakistan and became a centrally contracted player in 2010. In 2012, he took a five-wicket haul against Sri Lanka Under-23s in the ACC Emerging Players tournament in Singapore and was poised to make the senior team for a limited-overs tour of West Indies in 2013, but wasn't picked.

Lack of opportunities in the first-class circuit as well drove Usman into thinking about life outside Pakistan. Although he played eight games for National Bank of Pakistan in his debut season in 2013, he got to bowl only 84 overs. He was not used at all in his final four-day match, against Port Qasim Authority in December 2014 and hasn't played a domestic game since.

Another factor that has contributed to Usman's troubles is a perception of nepotism. His father Abdul is considered one of the finest legspinners in the history of cricket. Rather than that being a benefit, Usman felt persecuted by those who believed he was handed a place in the XI because of his father.

 

[dashing_man]

We have so many varieties in bowling so it won't affect PCB.

 

[big_gamer007]

Good for him I guess.. Wish him luck for his future

 

[saeed5646]

We have so many varieties in bowling so it won't affect PCB.

He is very talented and also a decent batsmen which is very rare we have as a leg spinner
after imran tahir another great one for south africa

 

[Khizr96]

He is very talented and also a decent batsmen which is very rare we have as a leg spinner
after imran tahir another great one for south africa

But PCB and Pakistan Cricket are not to blame
Even Ajji got an opportunity in 2008 after Saqlain retired
We have a variety of spin bowlers and don't need him
In legspin we have Karamat Ali,Yasir Shah and Usama Mir.

 

[Ahson8]

To be painfully honest, he doesn't have much of a chance playing for Pakistan. Good luck to him.

 

[Junaids]

But PCB and Pakistan Cricket are not to blame
Even Ajji got an opportunity in 2008 after Saqlain retired
We have a variety of spin bowlers and don't need him
In legspin we have Karamat Ali,Yasir Shah and Usama Mir.

The difference is that Qadir can bat, especially in Australian and South African conditions.

With Mushy as coach he should have been taken everywhere for the last 18 months as an understudy to watch and bowl with Yasir Shah in the nets and to get experience batting against the best Pakistani bowlers.

This is a waste of talent.

 

[Pete Rose]

So basically if I have read it correctly, he is leaving because of a lot of reasons which are other people's faults, right?
Never heard that one before.....

 

[#GreenRoars]

Ok, good luck then

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Surprised as he hasn't even played a full FC season yet. But this might be good for him as it might get him a quick entry into international cricket.

 

[Junaids]

To expand upon my earlier point, I think it's reasonable to think that Usman Qadir could average 30 with the bat in Test cricket and around 37 with the ball.

That means that he was not good enough to be in the team as a specialist spinner but that for any Tests outside Asia he would be the perfect guy to be the only spinner selected and to bat at number 8.

If you think of Pakistan's likely Test team in England in 2018 (when they play 2 Tests) or in South Africa, I would argue that the bottom half of your batting should look like this:

5. Asad Shafiq
6. Aamer Yamin
7. Sarfraz Ahmed (wk)
8. Amad Butt
9. Usman Qadir
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Rahat Ali or Ehsan Adil

That is not your greatest ever bowling line-up, but it's the shortest tail that Pakistan will ever have.

A tail capable of turning 170-5 into 400 all out.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

The difference is that Qadir can bat, especially in Australian and South African conditions.

With Mushy as coach he should have been taken everywhere for the last 18 months as an understudy to watch and bowl with Yasir Shah in the nets and to get experience batting against the best Pakistani bowlers.

This is a waste of talent.

This guy hasn't even played a full FC seaon yet. Pretty unfair to blame the PCB on this one.

 

[KyoOne]

Imran Tahir's was a love story. He's just opportunist

 

[KyoOne]

To expand upon my earlier point, I think it's reasonable to think that Usman Qadir could average 30 with the bat in Test cricket and around 37 with the ball.

That means that he was not good enough to be in the team as a specialist spinner but that for any Tests outside Asia he would be the perfect guy to be the only spinner selected and to bat at number 8.

If you think of Pakistan's likely Test team in England in 2018 (when they play 2 Tests) or in South Africa, I would argue that the bottom half of your batting should look like this:

5. Asad Shafiq
6. Aamer Yamin
7. Sarfraz Ahmed (wk)
8. Amad Butt
9. Usman Qadir
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Rahat Ali or Ehsan Adil

That is not your greatest ever bowling line-up, but it's the shortest tail that Pakistan will ever have.

A tail capable of turning 170-5 into 400 all out.

Ehsan Adil is a rubbish bat

Amir has not shown any signs of his previous batting ability after come-back. It's just like playing two Imran Khans (ii)

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Let's be honest here.

He is a very decent allrounder and did exceptionally well in Grade 2 cricket in Australia.

He did not get opportunities at Pakistan Fc cricket. Leg Spinners need competitive cricket to develop and mature their skills especially Fc cricket. Same difficulty is being faced by Usama Mir.

I won't be surprised if Usman replaces retiring Imran Tahir in the South African team.

It won't be a blow provided Usama Mir and Shadab Khan are developed and nurtured properly in Pakistan.


I also feel that Yasir is not a limited overs bowler and we must rope in Usama for Odi cricket only (currently) while Asghar should be with Pakistan team in all 3 formats.


Yasir's fitness will determine whether he plays for Pakistan for 2 more years or 10 more years. If he works hard on his fitness than he may play for pakistan for 6-10 years otherwise it may end very soon.

 

[Pete Rose]

Let's be honest here.

He is a very decent allrounder and did exceptionally well in Grade 2 cricket in Australia.

He did not get opportunities at Pakistan Fc cricket. Leg Spinners need competitive cricket to develop and mature their skills especially Fc cricket. Same difficulty is being faced by Usama Mir.

I won't be surprised if Usman replaces retiring Imran Tahir in the South African team.

It won't be a blow provided Usama Mir and Shadab Khan are developed and nurtured properly in Pakistan.


I also feel that Yasir is not a limited overs bowler and we must rope in Usama for Odi cricket only (currently) while Asghar should be with Pakistan team in all 3 formats.


Yasir's fitness will determine whether he plays for Pakistan for 2 more years or 10 more years. If he works hard on his fitness than he may play for pakistan for 6-10 years otherwise it may end very soon.

If Pakistan score 270 regularly and yasir comes on to bowl with the opposition 2 wickets down, he will be effective. The ideal kind of situation for him to show impact is like the final of the Pakistan cup. It doesn't matter which leg spinner Pakistan use, as long as they can't post 270 or chase 270 they will be looking for magical legspinners who can defend sub- 250 totals, which don't happen in modern limited overs cricket

 

[dashing_man]

I don't think he will even be selected for playing XI in domestic

 

[Hasan123]

Hopefully it won't come back to haunt us I wish him the best of luck, don't understand why he needs to make this headline news. Should just do it and not alert the media.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

The way Abdul qadir is treated even after what he done for his nation I don't blame usman whatsoever

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

If Pakistan score 270 regularly and yasir comes on to bowl with the opposition 2 wickets down, he will be effective. The ideal kind of situation for him to show impact is like the final of the Pakistan cup. It doesn't matter which leg spinner Pakistan use, as long as they can't post 270 or chase 270 they will be looking for magical legspinners who can defend sub- 250 totals, which don't happen in modern limited overs cricket

You are right that we must score 270 plus for our leggie to have some chance but still Yasir won't be fit for Odi cricket unless he improves drastically in limited overs formats.

Issues :

1. He does not spin the ball much.

2. His Googly neither turns much nor he has control over it

3. He fears fighting the ball. Whenever he flights the ball he bowls in the fuller length range where batsman can easily hit it for 4 or 6 without taking much risk.



When the batsman are trying to attack you and play aggressively than as a legspinner either you have to deceive them by your variety or you have to turn the ball sharply in order to get outside edge of modern day bats. Yasir lacks in both these aspects.


Hence Usama Mir or Shadab Khan can be a better investment (if any) in Odi or T20 cricket. While Asghar (spinner) along with Kamran (allrounder) or Amad (allrounder) will be better options.


We have given too many zabardasti k chances to Yasir in Odi & T20 cricket just based on his test performances and he has only given 1 match winning performance against very very weak Zim side and 1 good performance against another team. Otherwise he has been below par in all other matches.

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[MightyObnoxious]

This makes perfect sense. Abdul Qadir was advocating for life ban on Yasir Shah, but sadly for him, Yasir got away with 6 months. Which means, no chance for his son so applying for Sa nationality.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

This makes perfect sense. Abdul Qadir was advocating for life ban on Yasir Shah, but sadly for him, Yasir got away with 6 months. Which means, no chance for his son so applying for Sa nationality.

On what grounds will he get SA nationality unless he becomes relative of Imran Tahir or any other SA national in SA ?

Can he get nationality only as a professional cricketer aspiring to play Fc cricket in SA ?

 

[Pete Rose]

You are right that we must score 270 plus for our leggie to have some chance but still Yasir won't be fit for Odi cricket unless he improves drastically in limited overs formats.

Issues :

1. He does not spin the ball much.

2. His Googly neither turns much nor he has control over it

3. He fears fighting the ball. Whenever he flights the ball he bowls in the fuller length range where batsman can easily hit it for 4 or 6 without taking much risk.



When the batsman are trying to attack you and play aggressively than as a legspinner either you have to deceive them by your variety or you have to turn the ball sharply in order to get outside edge of modern day bats. Yasir lacks in both these aspects.


Hence Usama Mir or Shadab Khan can be a better investment (if any) in Odi or T20 cricket. While Asghar (spinner) along with Kamran (allrounder) or Amad (allrounder) will be better options.


We have given too many zabardasti k chances to Yasir in Odi & T20 cricket just based on his test performances and he has only given 1 match winning performance against very very weak Zim side and 1 good performance against another team. Otherwise he has been below par in all other matches.

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Maybe, there are other guys worth trying, but as we agree the fault for a lot of our issues (including the confidence of the bowlers) lies with us being a poor batting unit. So it's difficult to judge fairly any of our legspin options in Odis

 

[Kakar]

Can't blame the system here. In the 8 games that he played, he hardly gave performances to warrant selection again. With the amount of teams in our domestic system, he should have tried his luck for any other department or even a region. Instead, he has just complained about the system, without looking at his performances. Might become good some day for South Africa, but didn't have much of a hope here.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Very easy to blame system, favorite punching bag.

 

[Deewana]

So he thinks he will play over Tahir Bhai?

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[Syed1]

Might improve in the South African system just like Tahir did.. Unfortunately presently he is not good enough for the national side.

Should have been selected for A tours to find out what he is made off.

 

[Pete Rose]

Might improve in the South African system just like Tahir did.. Unfortunately presently he is not good enough for the national side.

Should have been selected for A tours to find out what he is made off.

You have to earn a selection to the A side

 

[Markhor]

Surprised how little he's featured domestically given how weak some domestic attacks are. I remember his name being brought up a lot after his U19 days as a future Pakistan player around 2011-2013ish.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

1. We love being Judgemental

2. We also love " Bhairh Chaal " aswell as Truck ki Batti k peechay lagna


The kid has just begun his domestic career and we are giving certificates about his ability.


8 Fc matches only that too on wickets which mostly assist seamers and seamers who take 80 % of wickets.


Shane Warne averaged 102 with the ball in his first first class season taking only 1 wicket.

Discounting Usman's first season where he only bowled 1 over , Usman took 7 Fc wickets in his second season at an average of 47.



Shane Warne took only 21 wickets in his first 2094 Fc deliveries at an Average of 46 and a Strike Rate of 100.

Whereas Usman has only bowled 510 deliveries in Fc cricket averaging 47. So what is the big deal here ?

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[Sandeep]

Good for that guy! With South Africans looking to enforce a new quota system, he might even get selected in their team..

 

[Junaids]

But PCB and Pakistan Cricket are not to blame
Even Ajji got an opportunity in 2008 after Saqlain retired
We have a variety of spin bowlers and don't need him
In legspin we have Karamat Ali,Yasir Shah and Usama Mir.

I don't think you understand.

In Tests outside Asia a spinner is effectively a specialist batsman in the first three innings of the match. A leggie capable of averaging 30 with the bat is like Gold.

As an Under-19 international in South Africa four years ago, Usman Qadir was on a different level up with Quinton De Kock and Ehsan Adil. The PCB should force teams to select such players.

 

[MMHS]

I don't think you understand.

In Tests outside Asia a spinner is effectively a specialist batsman in the first three innings of the match. A leggie capable of averaging 30 with the bat is like Gold.

As an Under-19 international in South Africa four years ago, Usman Qadir was on a different level up with Quinton De Kock and Ehsan Adil. The PCB should force teams to select such players.

Only problem for PCB was this guy or the previous one (Mansoor Amzad) was competing with the Chosen One for that 1 leg-spin all-rounder spot in ODI team. I don't think Usman was ready for Test, still isn't; but could have been a decent No. 8 with his leg spin for LOs. PAK team formation is stuck is 50s, with tail starting from 8 or even 7, but that's not the bigger problem in Test - still you can go with 7+4 formation with someone like Wahab or Aamir batting at 8, if the 4 bowlers are doing their job. Problem is Lala batting at 7 made me nervous - more so was the batsmen to follow him in last 4 years - Wahab, Gul, JK, Irfan, Ajmal, Tanvir, Yasir, Babar .........

 

[The_KING]

Good luck to him.

 

[Statsman]

If he is indeed selected for SA, can we say that England is not the only team poaching players?

 

[Suleiman]

Another one bites the dust along with Immy T.

 

[FreakCricket]

who is this guy, haven't heard of him and why blame PCB when you are not good enough to break into main team

 

[blackanhyellow]

Might improve in the South African system just like Tahir did.. Unfortunately presently he is not good enough for the national side.

Should have been selected for A tours to find out what he is made off.

Imagine he ends up improving like crazy and winning SA their first world cup.

How bad would we feel?

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Imagine he ends up improving like crazy and winning SA their first world cup.

How bad would we feel?

Even though I've never gambled in my life, I am really willing to put up a lot of money on just the mere fact that he ends up representing SA. Your fairly tale notion of him winning them a WC is as far fetched as they come.

Trust me, this ain't happening....... if it does, then clearly SA cricket have much much more bigger problems than some of us think they have.

 

[gazza619]

Thank u Afridi


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[Mainul]

After AFridi retirement Usman could have been tried in LOIs as most are saying that he is a good bat also

 

[Arham_PakFan]

It's his choice.I won't blame the PCB for this.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Even though I've never gambled in my life, I am really willing to put up a lot of money on just the mere fact that he ends up representing SA. Your fairly tale notion of him winning them a WC is as far fetched as they come.

Trust me, this ain't happening....... if it does, then clearly SA cricket have much much more bigger problems than some of us think they have.

Relax dude, it was a hypothetical scenario.

I was more focusing on how bad we would feel if he became successful with SA after he gave up on Pakistan. I used the world cup example to emphasize my point.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Hasn't played for 2 years and it doesn't surprise me at all.

His limited stats of playing just about a year of FC cricket aren't that flattering either as he perhaps hasn't been able to grasp the chances he was given.

He is only 22 and should be playing for South Africa by the time he's around 27-28 after the 4 year period of becoming eligible to play for the national team.

 

[Justcrazy]

He is not that good.

Mansoor Amjad was better but unfortunately did not get enough chances because of

 

[superman]

Is he umar akmals brother in law then?

 

[Abid Z]

Pakistan seem incapable of developing talent.

 

[Belawal2014]

Good luck to him.

 

[hur rizvi]

Is he umar akmals brother in law then?

Yes

 

[anakin]

Guys, the underlying issue is that if a guy can't make it to Pakistan's national team he is leaving the nation to go represent another country. It speaks volume about the domestic structure of Pakistan and the actual cause of downfall in Pakistan cricket. The base needs to be nourished for the top to be outstanding.

Surprised at indifferent attitude towards this departure from posters who keep cribbing about building Pakistani cricket. Fleeing of such cricketers needs to be stemmed or you can't rise.

 

[Pete Rose]

What's there to lament. There is plenty to be critical about with PCB, but every periphery nobody deciding to leave is a non issue. Besides I don't even understand the newsworthiness of this article.

 

[anakin]

1. We love being Judgemental

2. We also love " Bhairh Chaal " aswell as Truck ki Batti k peechay lagna


The kid has just begun his domestic career and we are giving certificates about his ability.


8 Fc matches only that too on wickets which mostly assist seamers and seamers who take 80 % of wickets.


Shane Warne averaged 102 with the ball in his first first class season taking only 1 wicket.

Discounting Usman's first season where he only bowled 1 over , Usman took 7 Fc wickets in his second season at an average of 47.



Shane Warne took only 21 wickets in his first 2094 Fc deliveries at an Average of 46 and a Strike Rate of 100.

Whereas Usman has only bowled 510 deliveries in Fc cricket averaging 47. So what is the big deal here ?

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We rarely agree but this!! I am with you 100%.

Players like this leaving is the reason that Pakistan keeps the TTF in a musical chair after every loss and PPers post long *** threads about how nothing will change. and reactions or apparent lack of in this thread, is the proof that PPers are no better than the mismanaged PCB.

 

[786pk]

Hasn't played for 2 years and it doesn't surprise me at all.

His limited stats of playing just about a year of FC cricket aren't that flattering either as he perhaps hasn't been able to grasp the chances he was given.

He is only 22 and should be playing for South Africa by the time he's around 27-28 after the 4 year period of becoming eligible to play for the national team.

Really...he can't represent SA for another 4 years. How come?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Is he umar akmals brother in law then?

No. Just his father in law's son

 

[Runner Up]

Good for him. He also looks like South African.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Just go and play for whatever country you like but dont cry over system in pakistan.

 

[Lords]

Pakistan exports most number of citizens to play for other country.
Abdul Qadir's sons decision was shocking as he is the son of a legend.
Cant wait for the day when Usman bowls against Akmal.

 

[BDwarriors]

Wish he plays in SA national team and pakistans domestic league gets shut down.....

 

[Mamoon]

Firstly, there is no way one can conclude yet that Usman is not (or is) potentially an international class spinner.

He has played very little cricket and his statistics show nothing - the problem with armchair statisticians is that by scurrying to Cricinfo and copy pasting numbers, they think they have a grasp of cricket but they don't - you don't judge a young leg-spinner by his stats based on a handful of games.

However, it is pretty clear that he doesn't have the stomach for a fight. Pakistan's domestic structure is a comprehensive failure and we all know that, but it is what it is; it is reality and we have to live with it.

You have to fight your way through it just like other cricketers. It's not as if he has been languishing in domestic cricket for a decade and has only a few years of cricket left in him. He is only 22 and is at the very start of his career, chances will fall his way in the future and he will have to prove himself.

However, he seems to have made his choice and we ought to respect that - he has decided to chicken out at the age of 22 and it is abundantly clear that he doesn't have value playing for Pakistan as much as some of the other players who have struggled for much longer than he has.

I don't know him personally so I cannot say exactly why, but from the outside, it seems as if he is disheartened by the fact that the road has been too bumpy for him till the the age of 22 even though he is Abdul Qadir's son. If this is true, then Pakistan cricket is better off without such meek characters.

Whatever the reason might be, the fact of the matter is that he has lost the stomach for a fight at the age of 22 and it doesn't say good things about his mental strength and resilience.

Mentally weak, soft and cowardly cricketers is what South African cricket is all about so he should feel at home there. Good luck to him.

 

[rashidumair007]

Wish he plays in SA national team and pakistans domestic league gets shut down.....

What?

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[Hasan123]

Firstly, there is no way one can conclude yet that Usman is not (or is) potentially an international class spinner.

He has played very little cricket and his statistics show nothing - the problem with armchair statisticians is that by scurrying to Cricinfo and copy pasting numbers, they think they have a grasp of cricket but they don't - you don't judge a young leg-spinner by his stats based on a handful of games.

However, it is pretty clear that he doesn't have the stomach for a fight. Pakistan's domestic structure is a comprehensive failure and we all know that, but it is what it is; it is reality and we have to live with it.

You have to fight your way through it just like other cricketers. It's not as if he has been languishing in domestic cricket for a decade and has only a few years of cricket left in him. He is only 22 and is at the very start of his career, chances will fall his way in the future and he will have to prove himself.

However, he seems to have made his choice and we ought to respect that - he has decided to chicken out at the age of 22 and it is abundantly clear that he doesn't have value playing for Pakistan as much as some of the other players who have struggled for much longer than he has.

I don't know him personally so I cannot say exactly why, but from the outside, it seems as if he is disheartened by the fact that the road has been too bumpy for him till the the age of 22 even though he is Abdul Qadir's son. If this is true, then Pakistan cricket is better off without such meek characters.

Whatever the reason might be, the fact of the matter is that he has lost the stomach for a fight at the age of 22 and it doesn't say good things about his mental strength and resilience.

Mentally weak, soft and cowardly cricketers is what South African cricket is all about so he should feel at home there. Good luck to him.

I was annoyed at the fact he needs to inform media about his decision I never thought of it like this. The last part about South Africans made me laugh out loud

 

[Mamoon]

I was annoyed at the fact he needs to inform media about his decision I never thought of it like this. The last part about South Africans made me laugh out loud

I don't think media is much of an issue because it would have been spilled eventually, but the fact that a 22 year old no longer wants to fight the system is quite disheartening.

 

[Ahson8]

Firstly, there is no way one can conclude yet that Usman is not (or is) potentially an international class spinner.

He has played very little cricket and his statistics show nothing - the problem with armchair statisticians is that by scurrying to Cricinfo and copy pasting numbers, they think they have a grasp of cricket but they don't - you don't judge a young leg-spinner by his stats based on a handful of games.

However, it is pretty clear that he doesn't have the stomach for a fight. Pakistan's domestic structure is a comprehensive failure and we all know that, but it is what it is; it is reality and we have to live with it.

You have to fight your way through it just like other cricketers. It's not as if he has been languishing in domestic cricket for a decade and has only a few years of cricket left in him. He is only 22 and is at the very start of his career, chances will fall his way in the future and he will have to prove himself.

However, he seems to have made his choice and we ought to respect that - he has decided to chicken out at the age of 22 and it is abundantly clear that he doesn't have value playing for Pakistan as much as some of the other players who have struggled for much longer than he has.

I don't know him personally so I cannot say exactly why, but from the outside, it seems as if he is disheartened by the fact that the road has been too bumpy for him till the the age of 22 even though he is Abdul Qadir's son. If this is true, then Pakistan cricket is better off without such meek characters.

Whatever the reason might be, the fact of the matter is that he has lost the stomach for a fight at the age of 22 and it doesn't say good things about his mental strength and resilience.

Mentally weak, soft and cowardly cricketers is what South African cricket is all about so he should feel at home there. Good luck to him.

Not just about cricinfo statistics; he was ordinary at the U-19 WCs as well.

 

[Hasan123]

I don't think media is much of an issue because it would have been spilled eventually, but the fact that a 22 year old no longer wants to fight the system is quite disheartening.

Yes I would prefer it to spill than for him just to tell everyone and make people feel sorry for him. I agree he's only 22 as well better of giving chances to people who want to work hard rather than people who give up after a few games.

 

[Mamoon]

Not just about cricinfo statistics; he was ordinary at the U-19 WCs as well.

Which doesn't mean much either. He might be mediocre and he might not be, but his stats at the moment gives us little to no direction.

If you have seen him bowl and think he's not good enough, then it is different. However, I am not sure if most people writing him off have done so.

Leg-spinners take time to develop. A 22 year old leg-spinner is like an 18 year old batsman. Can go anywhere from there.

 

[Ahson8]

Which doesn't mean much either. He might be mediocre and he might not be, but his stats at the moment gives us little to no direction.

If you have seen him bowl and think he's not good enough, then it is different. However, I am not sure if most people writing him off have done so.

Leg-spinners take time to develop. A 22 year old leg-spinner is like an 18 year old batsman. Can go anywhere from there.

I watched him at the U-19 WC and he did look ordinary at the time, but I do agree with you that he can develop overtime

 

[saeed5646]

Looks like he have decided against to go to AUS .the reason might be he knows aus have already found their

better leg spinner than him zampa and swepson.lets see how he performs in PSL

 

[saeed5646]

MY BAD He applied for Southafrican nationality but i think he may have decided against it or it takes time

any one who knows the rule??

 

[srh]

Usman Qadir is a PakistanI cricketer. He is son of former Test cricketer Abdul Qadir .Usman is leg spinner and left arm batsmen who has played two Under-19 World Cups for Pakistan and became a centrally contracted player in 2010. In 2012, he took a five-wicket haul against Sri Lanka Under-23s in the ACC Emerging Players tournament in Singapore and was poised to make the senior team for a limited-overs tour of West Indies in 2013, but wasn't picked.

Lack of opportunities in the first-class circuit as well drove Usman into thinking about life outside Pakistan. Although he played eight games for National Bank of Pakistan in his debut season in 2013, he got to bowl only 84 overs. He was not used at all in his final four-day match, against Port Qasim Authority in December 2014 and hasn't played a domestic game since.

Another factor that has contributed to Usman's troubles is a perception of nepotism. His father Abdul is considered one of the finest legspinners in the history of cricket. Rather than that being a benefit, Usman felt persecuted by those who believed he was handed a place in the XI because of his father.

Usman Qadir got to play more U-19 world cup matches than the more talented leg spinner Shahzaib Ahmed so yes I believe he was handed a place in the XI because of his father.

 

[saeed5646]

Usman Qadir got to play more U-19 world cup matches than the more talented leg spinner Shahzaib Ahmed so yes I believe he was handed a place in the XI because of his father.

sorry but shehzaib is nothing special and also usman is better batsmen than him

 

[srh]

sorry but shehzaib is nothing special and also usman is better batsmen than him

Shahzaib may not be special now but at time of U-19 world cup he was easily the best young leg spinner of Pakistan and yet team management repeatedly played Usman Qadir over him . In one match they rested Usman Qadir and played Shahzaib and Shahzaib took I think 3 wickets in 5-6 overs and yet still Usman was back next game there is lot of corruption in Pakistan cricket circle.

 

[saeed5646]

Shahzaib may not be special now but at time of U-19 world cup he was easily the best young leg spinner of Pakistan and yet team management repeatedly played Usman Qadir over him . In one match they rested Usman Qadir and played Shahzaib and Shahzaib took I think 3 wickets in 5-6 overs and yet still Usman was back next game there is lot of corruption in Pakistan cricket circle.

oh that is horrible and nepotism at very best

 

[PakLFC]

I don't see him turning out for the RSA, ever.

 

[Rayyman]

If you asked him which country he would rather play for: RSA or Pak? He would probably reply with Pakistan. If that's the case, then he shouldn't playing for another country. I know that international cricket is a profession, but there is something called national pride. Which most expats do not have.

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

If you asked him which country he would rather play for: RSA or Pak? He would probably reply with Pakistan. If that's the case, then he shouldn't playing for another country. I know that international cricket is a profession, but there is something called national pride. Which most expats do not have.

Putting food on the table is more important that national pride. Unless one should yell Pakistan Zindabad to their family when they are not contributing to the household.

 

[Junaids]

I have been saying this for years, but he would have been far more useful in the away Tests in Australia than Yasir Shah was.

We know from Usman Qadir's grade cricket record in Adelaide that he is a highly competent batsman in Australian conditions, which was obviously going to be the case when he was an Under-19 international in South Africa who was the equal of Quinton De Kock and Ehsan Adil.

He could have been the sole spinner in the team, averaging 35 with the bat from Number 8 and bowling something along the lines of 15-5-60-1 each day with the ball.

And it would have forced Misbah not to obey his insane urge to use a spinner as a stock bowler for 35 overs per day Down Under.

 

[Shafi]

Thank God!!! Otherwise he will be forced to select and stay in the team because of his connection

 

[ExpressPacer]

Putting food on the table is more important that national pride. Unless one should yell Pakistan Zindabad to their family when they are not contributing to the household.

I disagree. Whenever you choose a profession, you do your homework. Making the team isn't a joke. He needs to consider the fact that he is trying to play for a country with a 200 million, cricket crazy population.

The only problem here is, people like Usman Qadir are used to have having Biryani and will not accept Daal Chawal for "food on the table" because of their rich daddies.

 

[Ahson8]

I have been saying this for years, but he would have been far more useful in the away Tests in Australia than Yasir Shah was.

We know from Usman Qadir's grade cricket record in Adelaide that he is a highly competent batsman in Australian conditions, which was obviously going to be the case when he was an Under-19 international in South Africa who was the equal of Quinton De Kock and Ehsan Adil.

He could have been the sole spinner in the team, averaging 35 with the bat from Number 8 and bowling something along the lines of 15-5-60-1 each day with the ball.

And it would have forced Misbah not to obey his insane urge to use a spinner as a stock bowler for 35 overs per day Down Under.

Qadir is an ordinary ordinary bowler. He would have had much figures than you're suggesting. If a legspinning allrounder is what you want, Shadab Khan is the answer.

 

[Stumper]

Good luck to him