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[VIDEO] Afghanistan Mankading Shadab Khan in the 2nd ODI

Your views on the Mankad dismissal of Shadab Khan in the 2nd ODI

  • Totally unnecessary and against the spirit of the game

    Votes: 41 75.9%

  • Was the right thing to do for Afghanistan

    Votes: 13 24.1%
  • Total voters
    54
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Pathetic attempt to finish the game.

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real pathetic stuff. I was supporting Afghanistan, but this act was stupid and ridiculous.

Shadab Khan rightly just walked away he knew arguing with these idiot is stupid
 
Major said:
real pathetic stuff. I was supporting Afghanistan, but this act was stupid and ridiculous.

Shadab Khan rightly just walked away he knew arguing with these idiot is stupid
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I agree, Afghanistan are sore losers, but karma strikes, even with cheating they couldn't win the game 😂😂.
 
Stay in your crease until the ball hasn’t left the bowlers hand HOW hard is that to understand.
 
He almost ran down ¼th of pitch, when batters do this it's part of a game, when bowlers do mankading, it's cheating :facepalm
 
Whats even more pathetic is that Farooqi is a team made of Shadab at Islamabad United. What a way to destroy any camadrie one had. Hopefully United drops this guy.

This was pre planned, as the other pacer Abdul Rehman also pulled out, and at that time we didnt know he was trying to mankadded.

I loved the reaction of Shadab Khan, he quietly just went away didnt turn back or make a request, he was like screw them, because he knows the pathetic attitude of the Afghans. Like come on Gurbaz, this guy is ur team made at Islamabad United, should had stepped in here maybe.

Babar at the end had a word with Nabi, he didnt even go to Hashmat, he went straight to Nabi, and Nabi as usual had his mouth shout and trying to pretend it was nothing major.

Pathetic stuff by these guys always
 
Smbhayi said:
He almost ran down ⅓ of pitch, when batters do this it's part of a game, when bowlers do mankading, it's cheating :facepalm
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where did anyone said they were cheating? maybe reread what is being said here
 
Bewal Express said:
No issues. He was out
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yes he was out, still the way the wicekt is taken and the context of the match. Final over, that is not how you want the game to end.

Plus, if we gonna talk about rules and spirit, than what about the no ball bowled by Abdul Rehman that they got away due to Afghan Umpires.
 
Smbhayi said:
Lol look how far he's gone.. it's actually really pathetic stuff from the batter... Bowlers should encourage to do this often..
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first of all that s a picture not a video. When a bowler is about to deliver his ball, the runner is in motion but hasn't really left the crease. When a bowler stops and a runner runs, offocurse in a picture it looks like the guy has ran half way through. You are ignoring the context where teh bowler has stopped
 
Major said:
I loved the reaction of Shadab Khan, he quietly just went away didnt turn back or make a request, he was like screw them, because he knows the pathetic attitude of the Afghans.
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Or he knew what he had done here was wrong
 
Perfectly legal and the right action. Why was Shadab stealing 5-6 inches on the fielding team before the ball is bowled? If Shadab stands in the middle of the pitch before the ball is bowled, will that be acceptable? Of course not. So it doesn't matter whether you are stealing 5 inches or 30 inches. It's a steal. Well done to Afghanistan for having a good match awareness. Shadab was rightly penalized for his lack of match awareness.
 
Don't blame the bowler. Shadab took 3 steps from the crease to steal an easy run. He should have been more mindful of the situation. It was an easy runout as Shadab did not even bother to get back to the crease. That's how far he had stepped out.
 
Major said:
yes he was out, still the way the wicekt is taken and the context of the match. Final over, that is not how you want the game to end.

Plus, if we gonna talk about rules and spirit, than what about the no ball bowled by Abdul Rehman that they got away due to Afghan Umpires.
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But we know the rules and PK will and should do the same. It was the same with Bairstow in the summer. I have no issues
 
Good analysis at the end.

Basically whats being disucssed that yes you can say its legal. But the thing is why not do it in the 5th or 10th over of the game, why in the final moments?

Simple, because thats when teams panick. Afghanistan panicked thats why they had to resort to do this
 
Bewal Express said:
But we know the rules and PK will and should do the same. It was the same with Bairstow in the summer. I have no issues
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pak doesnt do such things, its only teams that are pathetic or are under pressure that do such things..
I support these guys, but it was pathetic the way they tried to win.
 
Shadab was running half way down b4 ball bowled for the last 5 overs. So no complaints. Though Afghans should have gave him warning 5 overs ago and made him stop doing it… they did it 48 runs too late..
 
Major said:
pak doesnt do such things, its only teams that are pathetic or are under pressure that do such things..
I support these guys, but it was pathetic the way they tried to win.
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We will do if it's required. And if they didn't they would be silly
 
love it how rameez is rubbing it in to them. And shadab got the man of the match..
 
Bewal Express said:
We will do if it's required. And if they didn't they would be silly
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na, Pakistan has never fallen at this level. Pakistan maintains dignity. You can give warning, but doing this in the last over. Like how can a person celebrate such a win.
 
If you pull a pre-meditated mankad on the key batter of the opposition, who you have never beaten and choked against before, in the final over of the match - you better not choke again :ROFLMAO:
 
My take:

Makading is within the rules, this was fair play, and technically not cheating. Shadab was clearly out

BUT

Mankading is weak, soft, and cheap. And dumb, get him out a real way if you can. So glad we got the win since this made it so much more sweet.
 
Major said:
na, Pakistan has never fallen at this level. Pakistan maintains dignity. You can give warning, but doing this in the last over. Like how can a person celebrate such a win.
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I guarantee you that if there was a WC trophy at stake, we would do it like everyone else.
 
Usually it comes with a prior warning. But a lot of desperation on Farooqui's part. Yes it was legal.
So far there's apparent camaraderie between the teams but Afghans have spoilt it
 
Don’t understand why we are the friendliest team in the world? No one is your friend at international level. They all hate us
 
Bewal Express said:
I guarantee you that if there was a WC trophy at stake, we would do it like everyone else.
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nope. Pakistan has never done this in the past. THey have no history of doing such pathetic things.
If you saw the match analysis at the end, it was being discussed that ok mankading is legal, but than why not do it during 5th or 10th over of the game, why do it in the last overs. This shows you are panicking as a team and would do anything to cling to a win. Afghanistan exposed themselves yet again.

naseem probably would had not win it, but the guy got motivated.

Pakistan no matter how desperate, doest do such dumb things. If they wanted they could had done this many times when games were close, but they dont drop to such pathetic levels.
 
What Afghanistan did isn't good sportsmanship, who cares about it being legal? We had every right to take a run due to rashid khan not paying attention in the first odi, but we denied ourselves the run and reverted to getting a dot ball.

Why can't Afghanistan do the same? Is it really too much to ask to have the strength to win on your own?
 
Meh, Shadab was out fair and square but it’s just a bit cheap for the bowler not to warn Shadab in advance
 
Ahmed216 said:
Usually it comes with a prior warning. But a lot of desperation on Farooqui's part. Yes it was legal.
So far there's apparent camaraderie between the teams but Afghans have spoilt it
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funny thing is, Farooqi is a team mate at Islamabad United. These guys lost all respect they had. Gurbaz was so frusturated at losing he threw his helmet in a hissy fit when walking back to the dressing room.

Like i hope the Afghans get their day to win against Pakistan in odis, but atleast do it with dignity.
 
What many people aren't realising is the premeditation. Farooqi had already broken his bowling stride to break the stumps when Shadab was barely an inch out of his crease - they were expecting Shadab to make a dash to get on strike. Of course Shadab was not looking, so he continued to run thinking the ball was bowled and made it halfway down before realising, so the picture in OP looks a lot worse.

It's all very legal no doubt, but it's pretty pathetic that this is what they discussed in the team meeting before the final over.
 
I agree with Major 100%, if we could avoid taking a single for Afghanistan and be friendly towards them, then they can show proper sportsmanship.

I'm starting to feel playing Afghanistan is worse then losing to India, India and Pakistan have rivalry but we don't insult or mock each other beyond moqa moqa adds. The players themselves such as virat and Babar are on friendly terms.

Afghanistan players outright insult us and just let their ego's get to them.

I'd rather lose to India then play a game with Afghanistan again. Irrespective of who wins or loses.
 
It was all a bit embarrassing from Afghanistan. I'm glad they lost after pulling that stunt.
 
Allthough it’s deemed legal I don’t want to see a Pakistani bowler do this. It just looks pathetic and not in the spirit of the game.
 
But let’s not start attacking the Afghan player. He didn’t do anything illegal and his team could have won it’s first ODI against Pakistan, they were desperate to win.

We have seen players from bigger teams do that and that really looks silly.
 
Smbhayi said:
So mankading is cheap but stealing few yards is not.. ie the legal one is bad but illegal one is good.. lol
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You have the unspoken rule of warning the batsman also, but if you don’t want to show good sportsmanship, well it’s fine for you, no worries.
 
Nothing wrong with the mankad, if the bowler stopped mid way through his action and waited for Shadab to leave his crease then it would be an issue for me. But, Shadab was already out of his crease before the bowler would have completed his action.
 
IAJ said:
But let’s not start attacking the Afghan player. He didn’t do anything illegal and his team could have won it’s first ODI against Pakistan, they were desperate to win.

We have seen players from bigger teams do that and that really looks silly.
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than who are we suppose to critisize? Offocurse the player in question and his captain will be bashed.

I wonder how the coach JOnathan Trott felt about this. He was chatting in the end with Shadab
 
Major said:
than who are we suppose to critisize? Offocurse the player in question and his captain will be bashed.

I wonder how the coach JOnathan Trott felt about this. He was chatting in the end with Shadab
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Probably felt good about it.

Trott is a natural…. He doesn’t like Pakistan
 
IAJ said:
You have the unspoken rule of warning the batsman also, but if you don’t want to show good sportsmanship, well it’s fine for you, no worries.
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They're playing intl cricket not school cricket.. and these sportsmanship or spirit of game is way way overrated.. most of the times batsman don't walk when they're nicked (including pak players)... Isn't that against sportsmanship too? (I don't have any problem against not walking off)..
 
One of the commies mentioned post game that why doesn't mankading happen in the 5th or 10th over of the innings. In that regard, I can understand why people would have issues here and bring up spirit of the game notion when mankading happens in the last over of a game specifically. But the act itself shouldn't warrant comments like 'cheating' or 'this is against the spirit of the game'.

To be honest, it still baffles me that mankading is still an issue in the cricketing world. If it's fine for a batter to take a headstart in going for a run, why shouldn't the bowler be allowed to run him out in his run up? If mankading is such a massive issue, then get rid of the act entirely from the game itself, while at the same time get rid of the act of batsmen taking headstarts to take a run (to keep things balanced). In this case, if mankading is attempted, it is a dead ball and the bowler should be given a warning and if he does it again, then the bowler is taken out of the match; furthermore, after some time has passed since implementing the rule and the cricketing world as a whole get used to mankading being illegal, if it happens still, then no warning should be given and the bowler is straight taken out of the game.

In this game vs Afghanistan the mankad did come out of nowhere watching this live and there was an air of disappointment, but I can't sit here and complain about spirit of the game and calling this unfair. Gotta call a spade a spade here. Shadab tried to get a headstart and the bowler ran him out. Does it look nice? No. Is the timing nice? No. Is it perfectly legal? Yes. The cricketing world as a whole needs to understand the overall purpose of the existence of mankading. And if it is such a serious problem, then get rid of it entirely and also get rid of batsmen taking headstarts to take runs. I don't think anyone would be complaining if mankading was made illegal in the sport (nor would probably anyone notice).
 
I see a lot of Indians are defending this just because one of their players recently restarted this nonsense.

It’s just nationalistic fever that they defend this. But you need to be objective about the spirit of the game. Mankading has always been against the spirit of the game.

I would have loved to see Indian reaction if this was done to Tendulkar. Oh the rona dhona! This is a nation that were totally against DRS because tendi got caught not walking of edges a couple of times
 
It's a part of the game.

But I love that PAK completed the chase and rubbed it in. 😂
 
I genuinely don't understand why we aren't seeing warnings before a mankad.

After a warning nobody could complain, but to surprise someone with a below the belt move always feels out of line.
 
Obviously its legal but its pathetic sportsmanship.

Pathetic from the Afghans and it shows just how desperate they are to defeat Pakistan.

Glad to see that Afghans were defeated again despite the pathetic sportsmanship on display.

You could probably get all 10 wickets via Mankading if you tried that hard but ofcourse it would be horrible sportsmanship and a meaningless win.

Well done to the Lower order for punishing the Afghans!
 
Smbhayi said:
So mankading is cheap but stealing few yards is not.. ie the legal one is bad but illegal one is good.. lol
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It is cheap. Being legal doesn't mean it's a good thing to do. There are other ways of penalizing the batter like the third umpire watching it and not counting the run. A run out doesn't make sense at all. If a ball hasn't been bowled why should the batsman be run out?
 
Major said:
nope. Pakistan has never done this in the past. THey have no history of doing such pathetic things.
If you saw the match analysis at the end, it was being discussed that ok mankading is legal, but than why not do it during 5th or 10th over of the game, why do it in the last overs. This shows you are panicking as a team and would do anything to cling to a win. Afghanistan exposed themselves yet again.

naseem probably would had not win it, but the guy got motivated.

Pakistan no matter how desperate, doest do such dumb things. If they wanted they could had done this many times when games were close, but they dont drop to such pathetic levels.
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The Afghans have probably never done in the past, Mankad had also never done in the past. Players should play to the law and they did.
 
Smbhayi said:
They're playing intl cricket not school cricket.. and these sportsmanship or spirit of game is way way overrated.. most of the times batsman don't walk when they're nicked (including pak players)... Isn't that against sportsmanship too? (I don't have any problem against not walking off)..
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Well the batsmen should also walk when they know they have kicked. I am all for that as well.
 
IAJ said:
Well the batsmen should also walk when they know they have kicked. I am all for that as well.
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But then you will get tight ones go against you. Umpire is there to make a decision and if he says out, you are out but you can't moan when you get a bad one
 
Shadab and I think Shaheen were constantly stealing twos like this. They noticed it and mankaded Shadab.

Nothing wrong with it.
 
I don't know why we are so upset about this topic. out is out. shadab should just try and get revenge by mankading a couple of afghan batsmen in the next match :ROFLMAO:
 
It's a pathetic lowly way of getting people out. No 2 ways about it. If Pakistan win like this, I'd never be happy.

Indians make every thing a jingoistic argument. These guys are beyond hope.
 
Major said:
Whats even more pathetic is that Farooqi is a team made of Shadab at Islamabad United. What a way to destroy any camadrie one had. Hopefully United drops this guy.

This was pre planned, as the other pacer Abdul Rehman also pulled out, and at that time we didnt know he was trying to mankadded.

I loved the reaction of Shadab Khan, he quietly just went away didnt turn back or make a request, he was like screw them, because he knows the pathetic attitude of the Afghans. Like come on Gurbaz, this guy is ur team made at Islamabad United, should had stepped in here maybe.

Babar at the end had a word with Nabi, he didnt even go to Hashmat, he went straight to Nabi, and Nabi as usual had his mouth shout and trying to pretend it was nothing major.

Pathetic stuff by these guys always
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Well spotted. Now I realise Rehman tried to do the same.
 
Third Man said:
There are other ways of penalizing the batter like the third umpire watching it and nthatot counting the run.
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That means third umpire have to watch every runs they scored except boundaries and extras.. is that practical..? You can avoid mankading by staying on the crease.. that's the good thing to do..
 
TeamPak95 said:
One of the commies mentioned post game that why doesn't mankading happen in the 5th or 10th over of the innings. In that regard, I can understand why people would have issues here and bring up spirit of the game notion when mankading happens in the last over of a game specifically. But the act itself shouldn't warrant comments like 'cheating' or 'this is against the spirit of the game'.

To be honest, it still baffles me that mankading is still an issue in the cricketing world. If it's fine for a batter to take a headstart in going for a run, why shouldn't the bowler be allowed to run him out in his run up? If mankading is such a massive issue, then get rid of the act entirely from the game itself, while at the same time get rid of the act of batsmen taking headstarts to take a run (to keep things balanced). In this case, if mankading is attempted, it is a dead ball and the bowler should be given a warning and if he does it again, then the bowler is taken out of the match; furthermore, after some time has passed since implementing the rule and the cricketing world as a whole get used to mankading being illegal, if it happens still, then no warning should be given and the bowler is straight taken out of the game.

In this game vs Afghanistan the mankad did come out of nowhere watching this live and there was an air of disappointment, but I can't sit here and complain about spirit of the game and calling this unfair. Gotta call a spade a spade here. Shadab tried to get a headstart and the bowler ran him out. Does it look nice? No. Is the timing nice? No. Is it perfectly legal? Yes. The cricketing world as a whole needs to understand the overall purpose of the existence of mankading. And if it is such a serious problem, then get rid of it entirely and also get rid of batsmen taking headstarts to take runs. I don't think anyone would be complaining if mankading was made illegal in the sport (nor would probably anyone notice).
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My sentiments entirely and my nomination for POTW.
 
It's an extremely stupid law and it definitely goes against the spirit of the game.

If I was playing club cricket snd a team member affected a run out like that I would be seriously angry at my team mate...
 
Smbhayi said:
That means third umpire have to watch every runs they scored except boundaries and extras.. is that practical..? You can avoid mankading by staying on the crease.. that's the good thing to do..
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If the third umpire is looking for the no ball anyway, they're already looking at the crease. Besides, it's a world of AI. I'm sure a model can be trained to at least flag the balls it thinks the Ump needs to look at. It should be quite easy in fact, with the amount of footage on hand.
 
Although it is within the rules but it is very unethical and below the belt to get any batsman out at any given position. You may warn the better first if he is leaving the crease early to get extra advantage (chris gayle way) but don't burn the bridges.
 
Third Man said:
If the third umpire is looking for the no ball anyway, they're already looking at the crease. Besides, it's a world of AI. I'm sure a model can be trained to at least flag the balls it thinks the Ump needs to look at. It should be quite easy in fact, with the amount of footage on hand.
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Absolutely, your point is valid. This approach could streamline the process and enhance the accuracy of decision-making in cricket.
 
Anyone saying he was already half way down the pitch needs to have a proper look. Yes he was obviously out of his crease but this was pre meditated by the bowler, Shadab had only left the crease slightly when the bowling began his jump.

It’s a sleazy way to get someone out on my opinion when you’ve pre planned it, and just makes the bowler looks desperate and pathetic. If every bowler tried to do this every time , you’d get Mankads all over the place and it will ruin cricket. It’s just one of those rules you can’t change but most opposition have a class about it . If a batsman really is taking the much just warn him.
 
Nado_ said:
Anyone saying he was already half way down the pitch needs to have a proper look. Yes he was obviously out of his crease but this was pre meditated by the bowler, Shadab had only left the crease slightly when the bowling began his jump.

It’s a sleazy way to get someone out on my opinion when you’ve pre planned it, and just makes the bowler looks desperate and pathetic. If every bowler tried to do this every time , you’d get Mankads all over the place and it will ruin cricket. It’s just one of those rules you can’t change but most opposition have a class about it . If a batsman really is taking the much just warn him.
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Yes, he pre meditated, but let’s say the bowler was about to release the ball after completing his action - Shadab would’ve been probably 3 metres out of his crease so how is that fair? If anyone here has played youth cricket, you’re taught to back up with your bat in the crease and only leave once the ball is released, had the bowler completed his normal action, Shadab would’ve been half way down the pitch.
 
It was nice to see Farooqi bottle his second game against Pakistan with one wicket remaining
 
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