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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This kids fault was that despite being his name is Asif and he was drinking water at a Temple.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IslamphobiaInIndia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IslamphobiaInIndia</a> <a href="https://t.co/M2Ly31E5UZ">pic.twitter.com/M2Ly31E5UZ</a></p>— Muhammad (@MohdBM793) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohdBM793/status/1370430819530121229?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is one of the reasons why fascism and ignorance is a very terrible combination for a society.


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In a shocking case from Ghaziabad, Uttar Pradesh, a young boy was assaulted by a man for allegedly drinking water from a temple. In a video that has now gone viral, a man can be first seen asking the boy’s name and then assaulting him when he identifies himself as a Muslim. The Ghaziabad police have taken cognizance of the video and the man seen in the video has been arrested and booked under relevant sections. Watch the full video for all the details.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/vide...r-at-temple-man-arrested-101615621113048.html
 
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It's normally futile to outrage over inter-religion fights or attacks because filth exists everywhere and videos can be selectively picked and shared to drive an agenda.

But this particular one was a hard watch because the kid was smiling initially. For some reason, he had been led to believe they were shooting a friendly, chatty video.
 
This guy is tough, beating up a kid.

Savages. I hope he gets what's coming to him.
 
Absolute madness.

Totally agree with [MENTION=139758]pillionrider[/MENTION].

India is in the middle of an internal war and anyone who denies that is either delusional or a flat out idiot.

Social media and propaganda has ensured selective local issues gain national coverage resulting in normalizing hatred for minorities.
 
Lol and they want these kids to learn about Bhagvad Gita and Ramayana in Madrassas? How about we teach these to hindu students first so they do not beat young muslim kids in Temples after growing up. Bunch of illiterates ruining this country. :inti
 
Another hard video to watch. I wont be surprised if the usual Indian bigots find an excuse or loophole. Joshilla seems to be trying already, next will be itachi.
 
WhenSultansBowled said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This kids fault was that despite being his name is Asif and he was drinking water at a Temple.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IslamphobiaInIndia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IslamphobiaInIndia</a> <a href="https://t.co/M2Ly31E5UZ">pic.twitter.com/M2Ly31E5UZ</a></p>— Muhammad (@MohdBM793) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohdBM793/status/1370430819530121229?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is one of the reasons why fascism and ignorance is a very terrible combination for a society.
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The person got arrested. Don't be so much blind to spread the agenda that you fail to fact check and come to conclusion which is far from reality.
 
It seems this sicko has made many vile videos before this one and there has been no action.

Some on twitter saying his videos are shared on WhatsApp quite regularly. Is this true?

Arrested isn't enough. let's keep an eye to see how soon he is released.
 
Itachi said:
The person got arrested. Don't be so much blind to spread the agenda that you fail to fact check and come to conclusion which is far from reality.
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Yogi's govt has been strict on those who break law. He is 100 times better than modi. Criminals in UP don't want to get bail and want to remain in jail, as they are more safe there. And they don't want the police to carry them in their vans, they prefer walking.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It seems this sicko has made many vile videos before this one and there has been no action.

Some on twitter saying his videos are shared on WhatsApp quite regularly. Is this true?

Arrested isn't enough. let's keep an eye to see how soon he is released.
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Depends on the charges. This won't count as attempt to murder. If no major injuries, the punishment will be less.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He has history of harassing Muslims, I think in modern India he won't even be charged.
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As if in the pre modern area, they would be charged? Things are better now in UP. In other states police look the other way depending on the govt. Like in Rajasthan, where a muslim guy was harrassing a hindu girl and the police didn't take action despite complaints. Later he shot her dead, caught on camera and the case is still being delayed, thanks to political influence.

Yogi's govt is nothing like that. You break the law, the law will catch you, no matter which religion you come from.
 
I wish I was born in Uttar Pradesh. Seems like a lovely place.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
The art of missing the point. :))

He's arrested so all is good.
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You can't control people so that such incidents doesn't happen. There'll always be people like this.

What you can do is, take the appropriate actions so that further such actions could be mitigated.

Let me ask this. What should have govt done if not arrest the culprit?
 
Itachi said:
You can't control people so that such incidents doesn't happen. There'll always be people like this.

What you can do is, take the appropriate actions so that further such actions could be mitigated.

Let me ask this. What should have govt done if not arrest the culprit?
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You are still missing the point. People are talking about the mindset of that individual which led to beating that muslim boy for drinking water in temple. :inti
 
Itachi said:
You can't control people so that such incidents doesn't happen. There'll always be people like this.

What you can do is, take the appropriate actions so that further such actions could be mitigated.

Let me ask this. What should have govt done if not arrest the culprit?
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The false narrative that one section is oppression another. when in india it is an equal opportunity oppression, and nothing like what happens elsewhere. for example, I can show many examples of hindus wouning/killing/harrassing muslims and I can also show examples of muslims doing the same to hindus. And this is where india differs. Find me cases in pakistan where an ahmadi shot dead a sunni doctor, or a hindu killed a pathan muslim, adjusting for the demography percentage. I have seen police records in UP, and cases of muslims against hindus are more than demography percentage. So the issue is mostly political will. If there is political will, it can be contained. Yogi is doing the right thing here. Has made life tough for criminals, whatever their religion may be.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You are still missing the point. People are talking about the mindset of that individual which led to beating that muslim boy for drinking water in temple. :inti
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Hatred for the other, that is hardly new. This mindset led to the creation of india and pakistan. Looks like some people were born yesterday if they find this mindset new and shocking.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You are still missing the point. People are talking about the mindset of that individual which led to beating that muslim boy for drinking water in temple. :inti
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Yup. Individuals like this exists. In an ideal world, people should have been empathic but the world isn't perfect and there will be some individual with criminal mindset. If we are talking about fascism as stated in OP, then how the action taken up by the govt points towards it?
 
CricketCartoons said:
Hatred for the other, that is hardly new. This mindset led to the creation of india and pakistan. Looks like some people were born yesterday if they find this mindset new and shocking.
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That's what surprised me. What people do expect?

Do people expect that somehow a miracle will happen and all crimes will become zero? It's like the wish of a child.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Hatred for the other, that is hardly new. This mindset led to the creation of india and pakistan. Looks like some people were born yesterday if they find this mindset new and shocking.
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Yeah just because this mindset is old it is ok for incidents like these to happen? :inti
 
Itachi said:
That's what surprised me. What people do expect?

Do people expect that somehow a miracle will happen and all crimes will become zero? It's like the wish of a child.
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It is fine if one feels extra pain when the victim belongs to your community and feel nothing at all when it belongs to the Other. But people should at least be aware (they have the right to choose whom to sympathize with). I mean, be biased if you will, but at least have the knowledge.
 
CricketCartoons said:
It is fine if one feels extra pain when the victim belongs to your community and feel nothing at all when it belongs to the Other. But people should at least be aware (they have the right to choose whom to sympathize with). I mean, be biased if you will, but at least have the knowledge.
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Yeah you would have seen a lot more replies, reactions and statements from people here and at other places had any Muslim guy beaten a Hindu guy for drinking water in Mosque. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Yeah you would have seen a lot more replies, reactions and statements from people here and at other places had any Muslim guy beaten a Hindu guy for drinking water in Mosque. :inti
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No, I think there would have been more replies if it was a hindu dominated forum. And that is fine. My point is people should be aware at least , and not act like fools that this mindset is new or shocking, as if they were born yesterday.
 
Itachi said:
You can't control people so that such incidents doesn't happen. There'll always be people like this.

What you can do is, take the appropriate actions so that further such actions could be mitigated.

Let me ask this. What should have govt done if not arrest the culprit?
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You are asking the wrong question ignoring the larger issue.

Today we hav a climate where one community is being alienated and cast as villains by govt, news media, it cell, social media warriors, etc.

Thid has resulted in general populace viewing everything through Hindu vs Muslim prism...an us vs them war.

In all this, basic human decency and respect gets lost which is why you see so many people defend the indefensible with whataboutery and deflection rather than confronting the real issue at hand.

People here are commenting about the larger issue about muslim hatred.

You can deny it all you want but when you start receiving venomous forwards from docile uncles about muslim being evils...you know the nation is screwed up.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Hatred for the other, that is hardly new. This mindset led to the creation of india and pakistan. Looks like some people were born yesterday if they find this mindset new and shocking.
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Nah .....just goes to show even the great CC with all his knowledge (no sarcasm) can be completely oblivious to the point being raised.

Simplify the argument and ridicule it and wonder why the world around you is so damn stupid. :))
 
CricketCartoons said:
No, I think there would have been more replies if it was a hindu dominated forum. And that is fine. My point is people should be aware at least , and not act like fools that this mindset is new or shocking, as if they were born yesterday.
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You are wrong. Mindset is old but this incident is shocking. I am speaking for myself. I have never heard anything like this in India where a hindu guy is beating a muslim guy for drinking water in Temple. This was a news to me. I would have been equally shocked if this had happened in a Gurudwara because Sikhs welcome everyone in Gurudwaras and let people eat food and drink water. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
You are wrong. Mindset is old but this incident is shocking. I am speaking for myself. I have never heard anything like this in India where a hindu guy is beating a muslim guy for drinking water in Temple. This was a news to me. I would have been equally shocked if this had happened in a Gurudwara because Sikhs welcome everyone in Gurudwaras and let people eat food and drink water. :inti
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If you read more news sections that being aware of latest bollywood gossip and which pakistani cricketer's daughter is getting engaged to whom, then this would not have shocked you. The shock is due to your ignorance and not because any reality has changed.
 
CricketCartoons said:
If you read more news sections that being aware of latest bollywood gossip and which pakistani cricketer's daughter is getting engaged to whom, then this would not have shocked you. The shock is due to your ignorance and not because any reality has changed.
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Since you are so aware of whats happening in India or anywhere else kindly post some links here similar to this news/thread. I am sure you have come across many such incidents where one guy is beating another for drinking water from his religious place. :inti
 
CricketCartoons said:
What is the point being raised?
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Do i really need to spell it out? Lol

Intolerence.

Demonization of muslims as sub humans with ulterior motives.

Massive propaganda justifying and normalizing hatred.

All leading to psychos like these getting more emboldened to carry out such acts with many in the nation openly or secretly supporting him.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Since you are so aware of whats happening in India or anywhere else kindly post some links here similar to this news/thread. I am sure you have come across many such incidents where one guy is beating another for drinking water from his religious place. :inti
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Don't be lazy. Do google search and you will find plenty of religious based violence in india, with varying identities of the religion. I can only show you the path, but you need to move your derriere and walk on it.
 
Looks like the sick freak was arrested and is being condemned by everyone. An attempt to.murder charge should be pursued and the psycho should be behind bars for a considerable period.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Don't be lazy. Do google search and you will find plenty of religious based violence in india, with varying identities of the religion. I can only show you the path, but you need to move your derriere and walk on it.
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As always you are chickening out. It's ok lol. :inti
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Do i really need to spell it out? Lol

Intolerence.

Demonization of muslims as sub humans with ulterior motives.

Massive propaganda justifying and normalizing hatred.

All leading to psychos like these getting more emboldened to carry out such acts with many in the nation openly or secretly supporting him.
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This makes sense of countries like pakistan, but for india this is narrow point, as you are focussing on one side. Eg in Pakistan you wont find cases where an ahmadi shot dead a sunni doctor, or a christian got a sunni muslim in jail blasphemy. There is only one side there.

In india, the side changes depending on the political masters. There are plenty of muslim on hindu crimes as well, in some states more than demography percentage. So focussing on one side is agenda driven. Surprised that you, who is talking of larger point, is focussing on this narrow point. You should talk about the larger picture, otherwise you are part of the problem.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Let this save your time for future. I will always chicken out when you ask me to bring something for you just because you are lazy. You can be victorious and happy.
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Save your time and don't say stuff when you can't back it up. You said I am being ignorant of what's happening around me when I called this particular incident shocking. I asked you about incidents like the one mentioned in the OP which has happened before but you were too lazy to back it up and post the links. Keep running your mouth now. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Save your time and don't say stuff when you can't back it up. You said I am being ignorant of what's happening around me when I called this particular incident shocking. I asked you about incidents like the one mentioned in the OP which has happened before but you were too lazy to back it up and post the links. Keep running your mouth now. :inti
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I will always say what I have to, and I will always decide where to engage you and where to ignore.

Do some google search and tell me some results. If you fail, I can help you with the search terms. But that is as far I will go in helping you.
 
CricketCartoons said:
This makes sense of countries like pakistan, but for india this is narrow point, as you are focussing on one side. Eg in Pakistan you wont find cases where an ahmadi shot dead a sunni doctor, or a christian got a sunni muslim in jail blasphemy. There is only one side there.

In india, the side changes depending on the political masters. There are plenty of muslim on hindu crimes as well, in some states more than demography percentage. So focussing on one side is agenda driven. Surprised that you, who is talking of larger point, is focussing on this narrow point. You should talk about the larger picture, otherwise you are part of the problem.
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Your assumption about my thought process is the problem mate.

Firstly, lets ignore Pakistan as the situation is much worse there. I am more concerned about India.

Secondly, you assume I am not aware of crimes on hindus by muslims. That aint true.

These issues have happened, are happening and will happen for the forseeable future. I am all for punishing all the culprits regardless of who they are.

The real problem is when one side creates a narrative out of it with massive budget, political willpower and turn the tables to make it look like one community is evil. Do it long enough and a nation's course gets changed.

Also your interpretation of the larger point is faulty.

You seem to think posters like me are ok with muslims committing crimes but not hindus (or that we are not aware of it).

This is what hardcore right wingers keep bleating about without understanding the other side. The fact that someone of your caliber echoes their hopelessly weak argument is sad.

You also seem to be focused on some false sense of equality based on how things were different for minorities under prev govt (in some regards) and now its the turn of the other side...so in the larger scheme of things it all evens out and its fair cos this is how india has always been.

It aint. The pendulum swinging to either side was pathetic to begin with but now it has shifted too much and is in the danger of toppling everything over.

You might be convinced that people like me are part of the problem....but i would respectfully argue its the other way around.

Instead of calling out the govt for their wrong doings in this regard, you are busy arguing over pointless technicalities while the big picture is as clear as the day.
 
Didn't want to read the lengthy post but on second thought gave it a try to respect the effort. Just telling you that I read it and find pointless to reply. end of.
 
Disgusting, but glad the guy got arrested, was surprised to hear that.
 
Arrested but what next?

He has to have the appropriate punishment surely.

This sort of idiot needs to be slapped around by a few people.
 
#SorryAsif was the number 1 trending topic on Twitter India today. Politicians are actively trying to divide us, but there is hope
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
You are asking the wrong question ignoring the larger issue.

Today we hav a climate where one community is being alienated and cast as villains by govt, news media, it cell, social media warriors, etc.

Thid has resulted in general populace viewing everything through Hindu vs Muslim prism...an us vs them war.

In all this, basic human decency and respect gets lost which is why you see so many people defend the indefensible with whataboutery and deflection rather than confronting the real issue at hand.

People here are commenting about the larger issue about muslim hatred.

You can deny it all you want but when you start receiving venomous forwards from docile uncles about muslim being evils...you know the nation is screwed up.
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That isn't a new issue. This has been ingrained in human society from ancient times. When you create an entity, there will be always the element of "US VS THEM" concept.

Islam has especially created the term "Kafir" in order to propagate us vs them.

If we look from the nationalistic pov, we have India vs rest of the world, Pakistan vs rest of the world.

When Islam wasn' there in anicent india, it was brahmins vs rest etc.

People will always find something to bond with and then label the rest.

You can't eradicate it unless you eradicate the identity itself.
 
Tubs said:
Disgusting, but glad the guy got arrested, was surprised to hear that.
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This is Yogi's govt. Many criminals, which previous govts wouldn't dare to touch, are not just arrested, but their properties have been demolished. This govt is brutal on those who break the law.
 
Saj said:
Arrested but what next?

He has to have the appropriate punishment surely.

This sort of idiot needs to be slapped around by a few people.
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When a coward like him has the audacity to not only attack a defenseless kid, but to record it and upload it on social media, tells you straight up that he has the full backing and protection of local police and law enforcement authorities.

His arrest is only a drama to display the efficiently of the the UP/BJP govt.

Nothing will happen to him, and he will be out soon with more vengeance.
 
Itachi said:
That isn't a new issue. This has been ingrained in human society from ancient times. When you create an entity, there will be always the element of "US VS THEM" concept.

Islam has especially created the term "Kafir" in order to propagate us vs them.

If we look from the nationalistic pov, we have India vs rest of the world, Pakistan vs rest of the world.

When Islam wasn' there in anicent india, it was brahmins vs rest etc.

People will always find something to bond with and then label the rest.

You can't eradicate it unless you eradicate the identity itself.
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Again, you are focused on a tangential argument ignoring the point being raised.

To address your point anyway, there will always be us vs them in all community (heck my sub sub caste has it) but there is a difference between natural us vs them and one where propaganda whips up hysteria and fear. If we go by your general definition, even Hitler did nothing wrong as there was always us vs them amongst all communities.

False equivalence.

Anyways, that's besides the point.....
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
BIMARU gonna BIMARU :inti
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Actually you're right. It's just U gonna U. I feel bad dragging the others - even Bihar - through the mud when it's largely one of those ponchos hitting the news every thread, every day.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Again, you are focused on a tangential argument ignoring the point being raised.

To address your point anyway, there will always be us vs them in all community (heck my sub sub caste has it) but there is a difference between natural us vs them and one where propaganda whips up hysteria and fear. If we go by your general definition, even Hitler did nothing wrong as there was always us vs them amongst all communities.

False equivalence.

Anyways, that's besides the point.....
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How do you conclude that it wasn't a natural instinct rather than artificially induced one?
 
Colorblind Genius said:
When a coward like him has the audacity to not only attack a defenseless kid, but to record it and upload it on social media, tells you straight up that he has the full backing and protection of local police and law enforcement authorities.

His arrest is only a drama to display the efficiently of the the UP/BJP govt.

Nothing will happen to him, and he will be out soon with more vengeance.
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You have any proof to back up your claims?
 
Workings of a sick mind and should be punished strongly. And I don't think there is any need to read anymore into this unfortunate incident.
 
Itachi said:
How do you conclude that it wasn't a natural instinct rather than artificially induced one?
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Just look around. News. Social media. Personal circles. Extended circles. Language and tone of people. What they accept and defend.

Btw, I didn't use the word "artificial".
 
CricketCartoons said:
There was a tap just outside the temple. Wait for full details to come. The child may have been the victim of a set up.
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Yep, it was a set up:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SORRY SORRY SORRY EXTREMELY SORRY ASIF. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SorryAsif?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SorryAsif</a> <a href="https://t.co/oA1GOkNdHr">pic.twitter.com/oA1GOkNdHr</a></p>— Vinod Kapri (@vinodkapri) <a href="https://twitter.com/vinodkapri/status/1371051598797967364?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
A poor kid collecting metal scraps in his day to day, son of a daily wager...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asif Narrating his story of getting brutally beaten by Hindutvadi Goons just because he drinks water from Mandir.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SorryAsif?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SorryAsif</a> <a href="https://t.co/O0tpyV1NQp">pic.twitter.com/O0tpyV1NQp</a></p>— Faisal Nadeem (@FaisalNadeemAMU) <a href="https://twitter.com/FaisalNadeemAMU/status/1370800861530583041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
The same guy has assaulted a kid before Asif...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The same guy has Assaulted one more Boy from the minority Community.<br>They are trying to justify this assault by falsely stating that the victim is from Bangladesh and Has been hijacking the job opportunity of Majority Radicalised Society people!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SorryAsif?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SorryAsif</a> <a href="https://t.co/fMbTs4mhzM">pic.twitter.com/fMbTs4mhzM</a></p>— Das Vanthala (@DasVanthala) <a href="https://twitter.com/DasVanthala/status/1370796714806812673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This mentality will be the downfall of India.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Just look around. News. Social media. Personal circles. Extended circles. Language and tone of people. What they accept and defend.

Btw, I didn't use the word "artificial".
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The issue here is, you are claiming that the behavior of this individual is an induced one from which the rest of the argument arises.

The question now is, how you can conclude that, this person isn't a naturally hostile person but rather an induced one? Because if he is naturally hostile, the rest of the argument becomes irrelevant to the subject of the thread.
 
Itachi said:
The issue here is, you are claiming that the behavior of this individual is an induced one from which the rest of the argument arises.

The question now is, how you can conclude that, this person isn't a naturally hostile person but rather an induced one? Because if he is naturally hostile, the rest of the argument becomes irrelevant to the subject of the thread.
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Nope. I didnt claim that.

My point is people like these get emboldened to do it in a particular climate as a general statement.

Like how rowdies get more active during DMK rule.

Even if he is naturally hostile, the rest of the argument hardly gets irrelevant.

Thats why i said you were missing the point...the big picture.

For you, this person did a crime. He got arrested. Its all good cos its always been this way.

Wish things were that simple.
 
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