[VIDEO] How have Pakistan managed to produce Babar Azam?

[Captain caveman]

Good post.
Babar plays more different types of shots in odis then in tests.
The flick of his hips which he played in the first innings, even mickey arthur said on straight drive, when babar plays that shot i know he is in form i.e. he does play that shot but not that often, only when he is in form.
The back foot pull shot against the spinners, i have already credited him for and Abdullah bhai has shown that he plays it occassionally against a poor long hop delivery by pacers as well, but not against a good short ball from a pacer which requires more skill and timing.
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The flick through mid wicket is a shot he plays quite well and is one of the rare on side shots he plays apart from pulling poor balls from spinners and pacers.
The backfoot shot behind point is another shot he plays but not that often.
So you have listed shots that babar either plays only when he isvin form(flick of the hip) or shots he plays to bad deliveries(pull and flicks to mid wicket).
I accept your assessment, but still maintain that babars only main shot to a GOOD DELIVERY is the off drive. He occassionally plays other shots but only if he is in form or to bad deliveries.

Yes i also accept that most batsman have their favourite shot, thats only natural.
But i think babar relies more heavily on his favourite shot than most top players.

Babar canot play hook or pull against
good deliveries by pacers.

Babar cannot sweep or reverse sweep spinners.

Babar is vey poor on square cuts or horizontal bat shots, he plays mostly with a vertical bat( which is a good thing as he doesnt hit the ball in the air that much but still is a limitation in his shot arsenal).

Babar is predominantly a off side player with only flicks and pulls to poor balls on the leg side, but not too many drives to mid on region.

Babar has no power game(more important in white ball games) but warner showed that a power game in tests can take the game away from the opposition

Babar lacks stamina, gets tired and cannot score big dady hundreds let alone double centuries , which was required in these tests in australia from our best batsman.

Babar has a weakness on fifth stump line, because the ball is too wide to drive and he does not posses a square cut shot.
Babar has failed when the pressure is on eg this second test innings in australia.

Overall, i maintain that babar is a limited technical batsman who relies,in tests, mainly on off drives, which he plays beautifully and fools people into thinking he has all the shots in the book . Yes he also plays some flicks, but he is mostly a one trick pony. Any opposing captain who sets the off side field correctly against babar will dry up his run scoring ability. I am pretty sure kohli would do this if we ever played test, which is highly unlikely any time soon.

All that said, babar is the best bat in pakistan and a top 10 bat in tests in the world, this rubbish about him being top 5 is just overhype.

 

[Captain caveman]

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The flick through mid wicket is a shot he plays quite well and is one of the rare on side shots he plays apart from pulling poor balls from spinners and pacers.
The backfoot shot behind point is another shot he plays but not that often.
So you have listed shots that babar either plays only when he isvin form(flick of the hip) or shots he plays to bad deliveries(pull and flicks to mid wicket).
I accept your assessment, but still maintain that babars only main shot to a GOOD DELIVERY is the off drive. He occassionally plays other shots but only if he is in form or to bad deliveries.

Yes i also accept that most batsman have their favourite shot, thats only natural.
But i think babar relies more heavily on his favourite shot than most top players.

Babar canot play hook or pull against
good deliveries by pacers.

Babar cannot sweep or reverse sweep spinners.

Babar is vey poor on square cuts or horizontal bat shots, he plays mostly with a vertical bat( which is a good thing as he doesnt hit the ball in the air that much but still is a limitation in his shot arsenal).

Babar is predominantly a off side player with only flicks and pulls to poor balls on the leg side, but not too many drives to mid on region.

Babar has no power game(more important in white ball games) but warner showed that a power game in tests can take the game away from the opposition

Babar lacks stamina, gets tired and cannot score big dady hundreds let alone double centuries , which was required in these tests in australia from our best batsman.

Babar has a weakness on fifth stump line, because the ball is too wide to drive and he does not posses a square cut shot.
Babar has failed when the pressure is on eg this second test innings in australia.

Overall, i maintain that babar is a limited technical batsman who relies,in tests, mainly on off drives, which he plays beautifully and fools people into thinking he has all the shots in the book . Yes he also plays some flicks, but he is mostly a one trick pony. Any opposing captain who sets the off side field correctly against babar will dry up his run scoring ability. I am pretty sure kohli would do this if we ever played test, which is highly unlikely any time soon.

All that said, babar is the best bat in pakistan and a top 10 bat in tests in the world, this rubbish about him being top 5 is just overhype.

Top 10 is being generous and based on his performances in his last 6/7 tests otherwise a top 20 player would be more accurate.

 

[pillionrider]

Ah you have just exposed yourself and your lack of knowledge because a cover drive is a off drive! A drive to the off side.

You briefly had me there cuz I thought, surely the guy must be trolling.

But your later posts show you're just ignorant, and surprisingly, also consider yourself funny. Well, not surprisingly - I guess that's one of the joys of being ignorant. You can shake your shoulders hunched over your keyboard in the cold Delhi winter sniggering at how stupid the rest of the world is

 

[Captain caveman]

You briefly had me there cuz I thought, surely the guy must be trolling.

But your later posts show you're just ignorant, and surprisingly, also consider yourself funny. Well, not surprisingly - I guess that's one of the joys of being ignorant. You can shake your shoulders hunched over your keyboard in the cold Delhi winter sniggering at how stupid the rest of the world is

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Yaar, the pitch is cut in two the off side and the on side (leg side).
Babar plays mostly drives on the off side of the pitch which incldes cover drives and mid off drives!!!
Dont confuse drives to the off side of the field with a mid off drive.

 

[therealAB]

I accept your assessment, but still maintain that babars only main shot to a GOOD DELIVERY is the off drive. He occassionally plays other shots but only if he is in form or to bad deliveries.

What shots do other players play that do well against good deliveries.
Babar has a good strike rate, even against good bowling so he is scoring easily enough. Many on this forum are too keen on intent. Pakistan needs players who will just hang around and fight - BJ Watling would improve your team hugely

 

[therealAB]

Top 10 is being generous and based on his performances in his last 6/7 tests otherwise a top 20 player would be more accurate.

In front as an all conditions batsman:
Smith
Labushagne
Stokes
Root
Kohli
Pujara
Williamson
Watling
Taylor
Faf
Borderline:
Warner
Agarwal
Latham
Nicholls
Sharma
Burns (R)

So 16

 

[Captain caveman]

In front as an all conditions batsman:
Smith
Labushagne
Stokes
Root
Kohli
Pujara
Williamson
Watling
Taylor
Faf
Borderline:
Warner
Agarwal
Latham
Nicholls
Sharma
Burns (R)

So 16

Dont agree with all of the above batsman being better than babar, but in that ball park , top 20, but not top 5.
If he continues to play as he has done for the last 6/7 tests then definetly a top 10 player but still not top 5 player.

 

[therealAB]

Dont agree with all of the above batsman being better than babar, but in that ball park , top 20, but not top 5.
If he continues to play as he has done for the last 6/7 tests then definetly a top 10 player but still not top 5 player.

Agree, certainly has potential to enter top 10

 

[Captain caveman]

What shots do other players play that do well against good deliveries.
Babar has a good strike rate, even against good bowling so he is scoring easily enough. Many on this forum are too keen on intent. Pakistan needs players who will just hang around and fight - BJ Watling would improve your team hugely

Onside drives as well as off side drives. Square drive and square cuts. Pull and hooks. Sweeps and reverse sweeps.
Not just flicks and off side drives.
We need at least 4 new batsman, i only rate babar and shafiq as international standard batsman at test level in our current test side. Both are timid, one is crucified and the other is put on a pedal stool.

 

[Captain caveman]

Thanks folks, now i am leaving this thread before all the babar fans accuse me of being a RAW agent lol!

 

[ataullah]

Who coached babar? Can Haider Ali and Abdullah Shafiq be the next babar azam?

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Who coached babar? Can Haider Ali and Abdullah Shafiq be the next babar azam?

Don’t know about Babar but Abdullah Shafique and Hurraira are both from the same academy and Shafique has gotten a lot of good guidance from renowned batting coach Gio Colussi — Ali Tareen being the mastermind behind this