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[VIDEO] Is Iftikhar Ahmed the finisher Pakistan needs?

Lol guess there's no middle ground with you :))

Iftikhar ain't Jos Buttler and he wasn't bad in the past 3-4 months. He's the closest thing to a power hitter that Pakistan needs, and internationally he's been decent. Not amazing, just decent.

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yeah because he managed to produce 2 flukes and you forget his whole career as a mediocre hack. Even Asif manages to hit few once in a while and this guy consistently has failed. Please don't tell me he played a good knock on Aus soil which involved half of runs scored through edges. He is a pure garbage and no surprise has a Misbah backing him. Misbah has always backed mediocre players.
 
Much better than asif ali who is garbage

They are both garbage with zero future. Need to invest on some youngsters instead of wasting time with these ttfs who can't work hard to be consistent performer. Very lazy and mediocre cricketers.
 
So if Babar's performances for the next 3-4 months becomes garbage, would you call for his head as well?

Baber has shown 2 years consistency and what does this hack has? Other than a good knock comprising on 5 edges. lool
 
yeah because he managed to produce 2 flukes and you forget his whole career as a mediocre hack. Even Asif manages to hit few once in a while and this guy consistently has failed. Please don't tell me he played a good knock on Aus soil which involved half of runs scored through edges. He is a pure garbage and no surprise has a Misbah backing him. Misbah has always backed mediocre players.

Who else is there then? I highly doubt there's a quality power hitter for Pakistan's lower order that you can name.

Iftikhar, based on recent international LOI outings, has at the very least done enough to maintain his place for the time being. Are his performances top notch, world class? No. All I'm saying is that amongst the players available, he's a decent enough hitter to be part of the team.
 
Baber has shown 2 years consistency and what does this hack has? Other than a good knock comprising on 5 edges. lool

I'm not comparing Babar and Iftikhar as batsmen. I'm just pointing out the 3-4 months logic.
 
Who else is there then? I highly doubt there's a quality power hitter for Pakistan's lower order that you can name.

Iftikhar, based on recent international LOI outings, has at the very least done enough to maintain his place for the time being. Are his performances top notch, world class? No. All I'm saying is that amongst the players available, he's a decent enough hitter to be part of the team.

This is one of the most pessimistic excuse. If one doesn't have the ability or consistency even on these phatta wickets of Pakistan how is he going to do well on Int stage with quality bowling line ups. He is just not good enough. Even Shan Masood has out batted him as a batsman than him.

Please remember he is not a power hitter but a hack. There is a big difference between a power hitter and legside hack like him and Asif. Power hitters are batsmen who can hit big. Hack like him can come and close eyes and slog is the only one way he knows how to play. He can't read situations properly or wait for bad balls and find gaps;.
 
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This is one of the most pessimistic excuse. If one doesn't have the ability or consistency even on these phatta wickets of Pakistan how is he going to do well on Int stage with quality bowling line ups. He is just not good enough. Even Shan Masood has out batted him as a batsman than him.

Please remember he is not a power hitter but a hack. There is a big difference between a power hitter and legside hack like him and Asif.

That still begs the question, who else is there then?

You have to have someone to fill in the power hitter shoes as much as possible, and in my opinion, for now, it's gotta be Iftikhar. We can agree/disagree all we want here, debating whether he merits a place or not. All I'm saying is that the WT20 is a couple of months away and Iftikhar's shown some semblances of performance in the lower order recently (internationally, of course). I highly doubt that team management is gonna drop him, if I'm being honest.
 
What's happened to Chacha Ifti? not firing at all.
 
Thank Allah Ifti is not putting a case to be included for world cup. Asif and him should not be in the team. Hafeez and or Malik can take his place and if they would have been included anyhow then Khushdil not very good but woild do better job than Iftikhar.
 
Category C for Iftikhar Ahmed! Seems Misbah has a lot of hopes for him.
 
I have a question.
Why is he called a hack?
He has a better technique than most of the current batsmen. Even scored runs in Aus, which would be a dream for Malik, Hafeez.
 
I have a question.
Why is he called a hack?
He has a better technique than most of the current batsmen. Even scored runs in Aus, which would be a dream for Malik, Hafeez.

Agreed much better than asif ali and khushdil
 
And Ifti is in the 29-man squad - the faith in him is interesting.
 
Maybe Misbah sees a little of himself (age wise) in Iftikhar? What other reason is here there? All these fancy domestic tournaments and we dont have another player like Iftikhar to offer?
 
Seems to be Misbah's go-to guy for all series.

Time to deliver.
 
Another one of Misbahs favourite players but again hopes aren’t high for him lets see what he can do this time.
 
List A avg of 50+ and FC avg of 40. Been at the top of the charts in the last couple of years and has power-hitting ability too. So I'm not too concerned about the thing that Misbah likes him.
Misbah also liked Asif Ali. Where is he now?
 
I'd like to see Khushdil and Ifti to duke it out for that lower order power hitting spot.

For me though for us to be successful we need a good pace trio and mine is

Naseem Shah, Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf (provided Rauf is fit else i'll take Hassnain)
 
Another one of Misbahs favourite players but again hopes aren’t high for him lets see what he can do this time.

Once team take him seriously and do proper analysis he will find very hard to survive in international cricket .
 
List A avg of 50+ and FC avg of 40. Been at the top of the charts in the last couple of years and has power-hitting ability too. So I'm not too concerned about the thing that Misbah likes him.
Misbah also liked Asif Ali. Where is he now?

Which charts are you talking about ?.
 
Training today.

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Iftikhar not included in the list of 20 for the Test series against England
 
Lets see how he perfroms in this series!
Was good in australia , can become a good utility t20 cricketer
 
I'd have ifti over hafeez and Malik anyday

Its their best format if there is one. Personally I’d go with Malik if its out of these three.

He’s feasted a lot on his comeback in this format. The underlying stats need to be looked at.
 
Its their best format if there is one. Personally I’d go with Malik if its out of these three.

He’s feasted a lot on his comeback in this format. The underlying stats need to be looked at.

Yes in asian conditions but in sena I'd pick both ifti or hafeez over Malik
 
Yes in asian conditions but in sena I'd pick both ifti or hafeez over Malik

Maybe but he's not played a lot away from Asian conditions. He's had a 49 against South Africa only last year at SR 158.

Ideally, all three should be retired by now because you want to see fresh new talent in your T20 teams not TTF's, but that's Pak planning for you.
 
Maybe but he's not played a lot away from Asian conditions. He's had a 49 against South Africa only last year at SR 158.

Ideally, all three should be retired by now because you want to see fresh new talent in your T20 teams not TTF's, but that's Pak planning for you.

I agree this is perfect time to get rid of hafeez and malik for sure as the t20 Compition isnt happening this year
 
I agree this is perfect time to get rid of hafeez and malik for sure as the t20 Compition isnt happening this year

Not gonna happen unfortunately, Hafeez wants to play the next T20 WC whenever it happens.
 
This is hilarious. Thought maybe one or two out of Malik, Ifti or Hafeez would get in bit all three have made it!
 
They've got to give Khushil a chance over Ifti with the wc coming up. I do not understand the thinking.
 
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Such a simple chance too.

Perfect height and it wasn't going too quickly either.

Almost cost us the game.

Wonder what makes him a choice for slips? Is it because of fitness?
 
Dude wasn't even fit enough to take a dolly catch at slip. Can't believe we have all these jokers in the team, well actually I can. :salute
 
Dude wasn't even fit enough to take a dolly catch at slip. Can't believe we have all these jokers in the team, well actually I can. :salute

Video of that catch - what was he thinking!

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Video of that catch - what was he thinking!

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Lol, and what must have Shaheen been thinking 0:06.
 
Ifti deserves to be in the side. He proved his worth in the series in Australia. Pakistan need a finisher like him in the white-ball sides badly. Someone who can come in at No. 6 and finish off the innings. And right now he seems like the best candidate for that position. He has been scoring a bucket of runs in List A for quite a few seasons and he has definitely earned his spot.

I think the real mystery is what his real age is. I would like to know just for the sheer satisfaction of solving this mystery. I mean he could be anywhere between 35 and 45.
 
Ifti deserves to be in the side. He proved his worth in the series in Australia. Pakistan need a finisher like him in the white-ball sides badly. Someone who can come in at No. 6 and finish off the innings. And right now he seems like the best candidate for that position. He has been scoring a bucket of runs in List A for quite a few seasons and he has definitely earned his spot.

I think the real mystery is what his real age is. I would like to know just for the sheer satisfaction of solving this mystery. I mean he could be anywhere between 35 and 45.

Agreed I'd have him over hafeez and Malik
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Courtesy Kamran Akmal’s YouTube channel.<br><br>Saeed Ajmal: "Haider Ali MashaAllah is a youngster, but Iftikhar Ahmed used to play alongside my elder brother… he may be new to the Pakistan side but he has been playing First Class since 1974" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/pUlTOIZw4Y">pic.twitter.com/pUlTOIZw4Y</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1299730659041259526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Courtesy Kamran Akmal’s YouTube channel.<br><br>Saeed Ajmal: "Haider Ali MashaAllah is a youngster, but Iftikhar Ahmed used to play alongside my elder brother… he may be new to the Pakistan side but he has been playing First Class since 1974" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/pUlTOIZw4Y">pic.twitter.com/pUlTOIZw4Y</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1299730659041259526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well many have been questioning his age. We can't take Saeed literally here but he clearly says Iftikhar is a lot older than on paper.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Courtesy Kamran Akmal’s YouTube channel.<br><br>Saeed Ajmal: "Haider Ali MashaAllah is a youngster, but Iftikhar Ahmed used to play alongside my elder brother… he may be new to the Pakistan side but he has been playing First Class since 1974" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/pUlTOIZw4Y">pic.twitter.com/pUlTOIZw4Y</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1299730659041259526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's clearly being sarcastic but even for sarcasm this is stretching the limits. At most Iftikhar is Misbah's age.
 
45 not out off 20 balls today in the National T20 Cup.

This guy seems to freeze in international cricket.
 
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45 not out off 20 balls today in the National T20 Cup.

This guy seems to freeze in international cricket.

True. He is a decent hitter but has only played two good knocks in international cricket till now. One was 62* against a good bowling attack of Aus in T20 and 32* to finish the ODI match vs Srl which Pak won by 6 wickets. Does provide a bowling option as well.
 
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45 not out off 20 balls today in the National T20 Cup.

This guy seems to freeze is in international cricket.

'freezes in international cricket' is not the phrase I'd choose. He's not as confident/stylish as others. Is mocked shamelessly by the whole nation.
Makes a comeback and then gets dropped for Ukmal and Shahzad, performs and then is made the scapegoat while Malik continues to hog a place in the team.
It's difficult for a man like him who has great domestic stats but is labelled as a 'parchi'. A man who should be batting in the top 4 or 5 but is instead batting at 6,7 or 8 (even in the PSL) as if he is a slogger.
He needs some continuity, some breathing space.
 
45 not out off 20 balls today in the National T20 Cup.

This guy seems to freeze in international cricket.

Are you referring to his strike rate of 138 in international t20 cricket or his average of 58?

Or his average of 34 in one day cricket (2 dismissals)?

First it was unfounded questions on his age now he’s said to freeze in international cricket. It’s amazing how a negative narrative gets built up against certain players without any basis for it.
 
Are you referring to his strike rate of 138 in international t20 cricket or his average of 58?

Or his average of 34 in one day cricket (2 dismissals)?

First it was unfounded questions on his age now he’s said to freeze in international cricket. It’s amazing how a negative narrative gets built up against certain players without any basis for it.

Agreed, Iftikhar salvaged any remaining respect we had left in the T20’s against Australia, as our entire order crumbled after Babar got out
 
I think he should be front runner to bat at 6 for Pakistan

Cannot believe I'm saying this

Unless Khushdil does something special.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Courtesy Kamran Akmal’s YouTube channel.<br><br>Saeed Ajmal: "Haider Ali MashaAllah is a youngster, but Iftikhar Ahmed used to play alongside my elder brother… he may be new to the Pakistan side but he has been playing First Class since 1974" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/pUlTOIZw4Y">pic.twitter.com/pUlTOIZw4Y</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1299730659041259526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kamran Akmal's YouTube channel is called "Catch and Bat with Kamran Akmal" :91:
 
Pakistanis hate his because he doesnt look 'pakistani' enough. Sarfaraz was same case.
 
He is the best option for a no 6 role of PAK ODI team. Some people need to stop dreaming
 
How do they both not look Pakistani?

We're obsessed with personalties, looks and fake bravado even if the player has limited capability.

Someone like Imad Wasim may have a limited skill set, although he provides great utility, but his persona garners him far more fanfare than merited.

Sarfaraz was one of the best cricketing minds in the country and for a time one of the best keeper batsmen we've had but he was never appreciated for the way he spoke or for his lack of aesthetics, though his lax attitude towards his diet was his own fault.

Similarly, Ifti has been hammering in the runs in domestic cricket for years at a far better average than someone like Asif Ali but we played the latter in every game for over a year when he was clearly out of his depth at international level, not that his below average domestic numbers were deserving of a call up to the national side in the first place.

Ifti on the other hand managed to make 62* and 45 against Australia in Australia where every other batsmen apart from Babar failed against the likes of Starc and Cummins. He showcased his ability to play true bounce with Rohit-esque six hitting ability when the rest of the team were collapsing around him. We surely need that in the T20 WC in Aus.

Most people just don't want him in the team because he's facially not aesthetically pleasing to them and looks older than his official age would suggest but if he's pulling short balls for 4's and 6's in Australia of all places then clearly age hasn't affected his reflexes yet and until we find a player who can play a similar role down-under we must persist with him.

Every time he gets a chance he's dropped a game later for someone like Malik. The only players worth trying in this role are Ifti, Khushdil or going back to Sohaib Maqsood because they actually have the numbers in domestic cricket to back it up. We need to stop selecting players like Asif Ali just because he looks like a Punjabi pehlwan
 
Should get kicked out, absolute terrible fielder and fitness.
 
We're obsessed with personalties, looks and fake bravado even if the player has limited capability.

Someone like Imad Wasim may have a limited skill set, although he provides great utility, but his persona garners him far more fanfare than merited.

Sarfaraz was one of the best cricketing minds in the country and for a time one of the best keeper batsmen we've had but he was never appreciated for the way he spoke or for his lack of aesthetics, though his lax attitude towards his diet was his own fault.

Similarly, Ifti has been hammering in the runs in domestic cricket for years at a far better average than someone like Asif Ali but we played the latter in every game for over a year when he was clearly out of his depth at international level, not that his below average domestic numbers were deserving of a call up to the national side in the first place.

Ifti on the other hand managed to make 62* and 45 against Australia in Australia where every other batsmen apart from Babar failed against the likes of Starc and Cummins. He showcased his ability to play true bounce with Rohit-esque six hitting ability when the rest of the team were collapsing around him. We surely need that in the T20 WC in Aus.

Most people just don't want him in the team because he's facially not aesthetically pleasing to them and looks older than his official age would suggest but if he's pulling short balls for 4's and 6's in Australia of all places then clearly age hasn't affected his reflexes yet and until we find a player who can play a similar role down-under we must persist with him.

Every time he gets a chance he's dropped a game later for someone like Malik. The only players worth trying in this role are Ifti, Khushdil or going back to Sohaib Maqsood because they actually have the numbers in domestic cricket to back it up. We need to stop selecting players like Asif Ali just because he looks like a Punjabi pehlwan

This is a good post. Iftikhar just isn’t popular opinion. He’s more than a handy bowler who doesn’t chuck the ball unlike Hafeez and Malik who are just bowling pies now that their actions have been called out
 
Then so should have the team we no baring shadab babar hassan ali when he was fit are terrible fielders and fitnes

I have advocated for a lot of the others to get kicked out but Ifti is another Misbah favourite.
 
I have advocated for a lot of the others to get kicked out but Ifti is another Misbah favourite.

That's the thing if one isnt fit you can drop them but then u have to drop the rest who ain't fit cant have 1 rule for 1 and 1 rule for another
 
That's the thing if one isnt fit you can drop them but then u have to drop the rest who ain't fit cant have 1 rule for 1 and 1 rule for another

I've given Ifti due credits for his performance against Australia but I think we should be moving on from journey men and implementing some proper players.

I do get he's still a youngster but really we should look elsewhere.
 
I've given Ifti due credits for his performance against Australia but I think we should be moving on from journey men and implementing some proper players.

I do get he's still a youngster but really we should look elsewhere.

Haha lol most of the youngesters want to play top order wg haider Abdullah zeeshan malik zeeshan Ashraf from what I can see khushdil azam khan lol maqsood can only play down the order unless you no anyone ?
 
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