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Who is a better candidate for Pakistan? Am hearing that the Pakistani govt privately wants the Trump administration to be re-elected.
 
Got a feeling that Trump will lose the popular vote again, but will edge the electoral vote (closer than last time) and remain as President. Biden seems a polite enough chap, but a bit too weak and old for a presidential candidate.
 
Who is a better candidate for Pakistan? Am hearing that the Pakistani govt privately wants the Trump administration to be re-elected.

These clowns dont set important foriegn policies, they just do what they are told unless it will lose them power.

The whole so called democratic system is a corrupt and decietful. Donors choose who is elected and set out the policies. If the public in the west ever used a brain cell, they would see this and demand change.
 
Who is a better candidate for Pakistan? Am hearing that the Pakistani govt privately wants the Trump administration to be re-elected.

GOP is always on good terms with republicans

Most bad things happen to Pak under Democratic administration

For Pak americans it's a different story
 
Yea for foreign policy GOP is probably a better bet for Pakistan , same can be said about other Muslim countries. For domestic its a toss up
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/30/inshallah-biden-debate-trump-taxes/

‘Inshallah’: The Arabic ‘fuggedaboudit’ Biden dropped to blast Trump on tax returns

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Best moment of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Debate2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Debate2020</a> /yelling fest, is Joe Biden dropping Arabic word “Inshallah” (God willing). <br><br>When Trump said “you’ll get to see” his taxes, Biden: “when? inshallah”(meaning never) <a href="https://t.co/6J18Rgn4pL">pic.twitter.com/6J18Rgn4pL</a></p>— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1311133827104935937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


didn't notice it during the debate.. haven't seen it used in this context though..
 
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‘Inshallah’: The Arabic ‘fuggedaboudit’ Biden dropped to blast Trump on tax returns

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Best moment of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Debate2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Debate2020</a> /yelling fest, is Joe Biden dropping Arabic word “Inshallah” (God willing). <br><br>When Trump said “you’ll get to see” his taxes, Biden: “when? inshallah”(meaning never) <a href="https://t.co/6J18Rgn4pL">pic.twitter.com/6J18Rgn4pL</a></p>— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1311133827104935937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


didn't notice it during the debate.. haven't seen it used in this context though..

It's commonly used in this context, it's like a sarcastic no.
 
It's commonly used in a sarcastic context among Muslims to mean "never" or "maybe no".

I mean it's not sarcasticlly used but people do unfortunately use it to say no (even though the literal meaning of the word is different)
 
It's commonly used in a sarcastic context among Muslims to mean "never" or "maybe no".

I say it to my kids all the time when they ask for something. You shut them up with "Inshallah". That closes the argument.

The younger one then goes into a temper tantrum "No Inshallah!, I want this now :D"
 
I mean it's not sarcasticlly used but people do unfortunately use it to say no (even though the literal meaning of the word is different)

It closes the argument. When you say Inshallah, it mean God Willing. If it is meant to happen, it will happen. But if it doesn't, it is not my fault.

I had a friend from Egypt, they had a term I.B.M. --- Inshallah, Bookrah, Maalish.

When you go over to a government office to get something done, the guy will say come back tomorrow and Inshallah we will take care it very courteously. When you go over tomorrow, he will be a little curt and say bookrah which roughly translates tomorrow. When you show up on the third or fourth day he says Maalish very disdainly. I was told an Egyptian Gov. Employee's memory goes back 2 days. Anything beyond that is lost :). So Inshallah Bookrah Maaslish takes care of the issue :P
 
I mean it's not sarcasticlly used but people do unfortunately use it to say no (even though the literal meaning of the word is different)

I say inshallah when someone asks me to do something I don’t want to do or won’t do but cannot explicitly say no to :)))
 
The commission that oversees US presidential debates says it will change the format to ensure the remaining two encounters between Donald Trump and Joe Biden are more orderly.

One new measure could be to cut the microphones if the candidates try to interrupt each other, US media report.

The announcement follows Tuesday's ill-tempered debate that descended into squabbling, bickering and insults.

President Trump's team has already criticised the commission's plans.

The tone and tactics of the first presidential debate were criticised across the US and around the world.
 
Presidential debate: Rules to change after Trump-Biden spat

The commission that oversees US presidential debates says it will change the format to ensure the remaining two encounters between Donald Trump and Joe Biden are more orderly.

One new measure could be to cut the microphones if the candidates try to interrupt each other, US media report.

The announcement follows Tuesday's ill-tempered debate that descended into squabbling, bickering and insults.

President Trump's team has already criticised the commission's plans.

The tone and tactics of the first presidential debate were criticised across the US and around the world.

The fallout, however, has also been dominated by Mr Trump's refusal in the debate to explicitly condemn a far-right group called the Proud Boys.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54366618
 
Trump hasn't committed any tax fraud. He just hasn't paid his business taxes, but this is due to tax credits and business tax deferral which is perfectly legal under IRS rules and is common practise. Warren Buffet and Jeff Bezos et al do the same.

Trump just gets the extra attention because the media and democrats have been agasint hime since day one. No one is talking about Trump giving up his 400K annual Presidential salary, which is more than what Biden has paid in Taxes (300K).

Read this up. According to the Ex-Watergate prosecutor who investigated Nixon, Trump is not just being creative in Tax avoidance but committing tax fraud.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-ivanka-trump-tax-fraud_n_5f7292dfc5b6f622a0c375f9
 
Read this up. According to the Ex-Watergate prosecutor who investigated Nixon, Trump is not just being creative in Tax avoidance but committing tax fraud.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-ivanka-trump-tax-fraud_n_5f7292dfc5b6f622a0c375f9

NYtimes surely with its due diligence were careful about their wording, do you think NYtimes wouldn't had said it as tax evasion if they could? They have the source... what do you think stopped them from going that far?
 
Watched this back a second time today, and it wasn’t as much of a train wreck as it felt the first time (although still bad). Biden did probably come across better on the whole, and in the last third of the debate he became quite articulate. Trump just rambled all the way through as per usual.
 
It closes the argument. When you say Inshallah, it mean God Willing. If it is meant to happen, it will happen. But if it doesn’t, it is not my fault.

I had a friend from Egypt, they had a term I.B.M. — Inshallah, Bookrah, Maalish.

When you go over to a government office to get something done, the guy will say come back tomorrow and Inshallah we will take care it very courteously. When you go over tomorrow, he will be a little curt and say bookrah which roughly translates tomorrow. When you show up on the third or fourth day he says Maalish very disdainly. I was told an Egyptian Gov. Employee’s memory goes back 2 days. Anything beyond that is lost :). So Inshallah Bookrah Maaslish takes care of the issue :P

I can confirm that your Egyptian friend was right :inti
 
US Vice-President Mike Pence and his Democratic challenger Kamala Harris will be separated by plexiglass during their head-to-head debate this week.

The candidates will also be seated at least 12ft (3.6m) apart for Wednesday's event in Salt Lake City, Utah, to help limit the risk of Covid transmission.

It comes after President Donald Trump and several others close to him tested positive for coronavirus.

Both vice-presidential candidates have recently tested negative.

Information about the event released by the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) on Monday said "plexiglass will be used as part of the CPD's overall approach to health and safety".



https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54430227
 
Biden and Trump set for election rematch after securing party nominations

US President Joe Biden and his predecessor Donald Trump have both passed the delegate thresholds to clinch their parties' nominations for the election in November.

Four states, one American territory and Democrats living abroad held their primaries on Tuesday.

The result means US voters face a rematch of the 2020 presidential election in eight months' time.

The nominations will be made official at party conventions this summer.

The 81-year-old president said on Tuesday evening that he was "honoured" voters had backed his re-election bid "in a moment when the threat Trump poses is greater than ever".

Citing positive economic trends, he asserted the US was "in the middle of a comeback" but faced challenges to its future as a democracy, as well as from those seeking to pass abortion restrictions and cut social programmes.

"I believe that the American people will choose to keep us moving into the future," Mr Biden said in a statement from his campaign.

Incumbency gave Mr Biden a natural advantage and he faced no serious challengers for the Democratic nomination.

Despite persistent concerns from voters that his age limits his ability to perform the duties of the presidency, the party apparatus rallied around him.

Meanwhile, Mr Trump, 77, remains very popular with the Republican voter base, which has propelled him to victory in primary after primary over well-funded rivals.

His campaign for a second term in the White House has zeroed in on stricter immigration laws, including a pledge to "seal the border" and implement "record-setting" deportations.

Mr Trump has also vowed to fight crime, boost domestic energy production, tax foreign imports, end the war in Ukraine and resume an "America first" approach to global affairs.

Tuesday night's results do not come as a shock, as both men have dominated their races so far.

Both their re-nominations seemed all but predetermined, despite polling that indicates Americans are dissatisfied with the prospect of another showdown between Mr Biden and Mr Trump in November.

The US presidential primaries and caucuses are a state-by-state competition to secure the most party delegates.

The Democrats and the Republicans have slightly different rules for their primaries, but the process is essentially the same.

Each state is allocated a certain share of party delegates, which are awarded either as a whole to the winning candidate or proportionally, based on the results.

A Republican candidate must secure at least 1,215 of their party's delegates during the primary season to win their presidential nomination, while a Democrat must secure 1,968.

On Tuesday, Republicans held primaries in Mississippi, Georgia and Washington State, and a caucus in Hawaii.

Democrats, meanwhile, held primaries in the states of Georgia, Washington and Mississippi, as well as in the Northern Mariana Islands and for Democrats living abroad.

Mr Biden and Mr Trump's main competitors had dropped out before Tuesday's primary contests, so the results had been all but certain.

Former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley, Mr Trump's last remaining rival, dropped out earlier this month after losing 14 states to Mr Trump on Super Tuesday.

Though several more states have yet to hold their primary contests, with Mr Trump and Mr Biden over the delegate threshold, the 2024 general election is now effectively under way.

The US presidential election will be held on 5 November 2024.

BBC
 
Biden roasts Trump at Washington press dinner

US President Joe Biden joked about Donald Trump and his own age at an annual media dinner on Saturday — before unloading deadly serious criticisms of his rival in November’s election.

“One candidate’s too old and mentally unfit to be president,” the 81-year-old Democrat quipped at the Gridiron Club in Washington. “The other guy’s me.”

Democrat Biden was making his first speech as president at the annual white tie gala for the US media and political elite, an event that Republican former president Trump addressed in 2018.

Biden is trailing in a number of polls and faces voters concerns about his age, which he has tried to address by highlighting 77-year-old Trump’s recent verbal slip-ups.

In his remarks, Biden took a swipe at Republicans in Congress who have launched an impeachment inquiry into his son’s business dealings, saying they would “rather fail at impeachment than succeed at anything else.”

He added that Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar, sitting at the head table with Biden on the eve of St. Patrick’s Day “took one look at Congress and he asked for another Guinness.”

Varadkar and Biden both pushed during a meeting at the White House on Friday for Republicans in Congress to stop blocking military aid for Ukraine to fight Russia’s invasion.

But Biden then returned to Trump, saying that the Democrats’ election campaign would show how they rebuilt the US economy after the Covid-19 pandemic “without encouraging the American people to inject bleach.”

He was referring to an incident when Trump, as president, asked a top medical adviser whether virus victims could be injected with disinfectant to cure them.

“Look, I wish these were jokes, but they’re not,” added Biden.

“Democracy and freedom are literally under attack. Putin’s on the march in Europe. My predecessor bows down to him and says, ‘Do whatever the hell you want.’“

Noting that Estonia’s Prime Minister Kaja Kallas, a strong critic of Russia, was also at his table, he added “We will not bow down, they will not bow down and I will not bow down.”

Biden added that Trump’s false claims to have won the 2020 election, and the January 6 2021 Capitol assault by pro-Trump rioters, showed there was “poison coursing through the veins of our democracy.”

He also backed journalists whom Trump has repeatedly attacked, adding: “You are not the enemy of the people. You are a pillar of any free society.”

In his own appearance at the Gridiron Club six years ago, Trump did trade unusually playful digs with the Washington press corps and also joked about North Korea and his own leadership style.

The Gridiron dinner — held behind closed doors with no photos allowed — sees Washington’s elite unwind for a night of self-deprecatory humor which includes costumed members performing a song.

SOURCE: https://www.arabnews.com/node/2478021/world
 
Trump accuses Biden of running 'Gestapo administration'

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump accused Democratic rival President Joe Biden of running a "Gestapo administration" in a private address to donors in which he also attacked prosecutors involved in his criminal indictments, according to a recording heard by U.S. media outlets.

Trump, whose own rhetoric has drawn accusations of fascist tendencies from civil rights groups and other critics, made the comparison with the Nazi police in Germany's World War Two regime at a donor retreat Saturday night at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida.

The comments came after Trump reprised his complaint that the multiple indictments against him were politically motivated. He had just concluded 11 days of a New York hush money trial in which he is charged with falsifying business records to cover up a $130,000 payment made to a porn star.

"These people are running a Gestapo administration," Trump said, according to an audio recording heard by the New York Times and the Washington Post. "And it’s the only thing they have. And it’s the only way they’re going to win, in their opinion, and it’s actually killing them. But it doesn’t bother me."


 

Biden, Trump agree to presidential debates in June, September​


President Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, are set to face off in presidential debates in June and September -- hours after Biden on Wednesday challenged the former president to two debates, which Trump said he was "ready and willing" to do.

CNN announced it will host the debate on June 27 in Atlanta, Georgia at 9 p.m. It's the first of at least two debates Biden pushed for under new terms that deviate from ones set by the Commission on Presidential Debates. Both have agreed to an ABC News debate on Sept. 10.

On Wednesday morning, Biden shared he had accepted CNN's invitation to debate on June 27 -- challenging Trump to join. In accepting the CNN debate invitation, Trump's campaign pushed for more than two debates.

"We propose a debate in June, a debate in July, a debate in August, and a debate in September, in addition to the Vice Presidential debate," said Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles, with the Trump campaign, said in a memo. "Additional dates will allow voters to have maximum exposure to the records and future visions of each candidate."

Biden announced through his campaign that he is bucking the decades-old tradition of fall meetings organized by the bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates -- and instead called on Trump to join him for two televised presidential debates in June and September organized by news organizations.

"Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then, he hasn't shown up for a debate," Biden said in a video message his campaign posted to social media. "Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal."

Trump, who skipped all four Republican National Committee-sanctioned 2024 primary election debates and pulled out of one of his three debates with Biden in 2020, said in response that he was willing to debate Biden during the proposed dates, but said there should be more than two debates.

"I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September. I would strongly recommend more than two debates," Trump posted on his social media platform.

He added, "Just tell me when, I'll be there. 'Let's get ready to Rumble!!!'"

The Biden campaign outlined some conditions for the debates -- though it is not yet clear if all will be adhered to for the CNN debate in June.

The campaign said that the first debate should be hosted by "any broadcast organization that hosted a Republican Primary debate in 2016 in which Donald Trump participated, and a Democratic primary debate in 2020 in which President Biden participated -- so neither campaign can assert that the sponsoring organization is obviously unacceptable," Biden Campaign Chair Jen O'Malley Dillon wrote in a letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates, obtained by ABC News.

Also, "the moderator(s) should be selected by the broadcast host from among their regular personnel, so as to avoid a 'ringer' or partisan."

The Biden campaign said debates have been "structured like an entertainment spectacle and not a serious exchange of ideas that reflect the enormous stakes of the election." With that in mind, the campaign said the debate should not have an in-person audience full of "raucous or disruptive partisans and donors, who consume valuable debate time with noisy spectacles of approval or jeering," Dillon wrote in the letter.

"As was the case with the original televised debates in 1960, a television studio with just the candidates and moderators is a better, more cost-efficient way to proceed: focused solely on the interests of voters," Dillon wrote.

The Biden campaign said all debates should be 1:1 -- meaning it would bar Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., an independent candidate, from participating.

Addressing one of their cited issues with the Commission on Presidential Debates, the campaign said, "There should be firm time limits for answers, and alternate turns to speak -- so that the time is evenly divided and we have an exchange of views, not a spectacle of mutual interruption," and that a candidate's microphone should only be on when it is their turn to speak.

Both the Trump and Biden campaigns has expressed concern with the organization of the debates by the Commission on Presidential Debates -- one slated for September and two planned for October -- saying that the scheduled debates don't conclude until well after early voting has already started.

Earlier this month, the Commission on Presidential Debates pushed back, saying that, "as it always does, the CPD considered multiple factors in selecting debate dates in order to make them accessible by the American public," including religious and federal holidays, early voting, and the dates on which individual states close their ballots.

On Sept. 16, the day of the first debate, Pennsylvania voters can receive, complete and return ballots at their county boards of elections, CPD notes. Minnesota is one of the first states to offer in-person early voting, and voters there can begin to cast ballots on Friday, Sept. 20.

Additionally, the Biden campaign proposed a vice-presidential debate in late July after the Republican National Convention.

 
Scenez from the must awaited debate between the 2 potential candidates to be the president of US.

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Big stakes and high tension as Biden-Trump debate looms

When Donald Trump and Joe Biden take to the debate stage on Thursday night, it will be a reunion of sorts – although not exactly a friendly one.

A current president has never before debated his predecessor, and the bad blood between these two men will be obvious on the CNN debate stage in Atlanta.

Trump never conceded the 2020 election to President Biden and days after his supporters attacked the US Capitol, he broke with tradition by refusing to attend his opponent’s inauguration.

The two men are now facing off again for the presidency and this debate will mark the first time in this election campaign that millions of Americans are sitting up and paying attention.

The stakes are high and the tension in the room will be a notch above past tussles, as both men try to convince US voters that they deserve their ballot in November.

An unusual evening

Thursday’s debate will also mark the first time that Joe Biden and Donald Trump have appeared together since their debates four years ago. The initial encounter in 2020 was an acrimonious affair, punctuated by repeated interruptions and Mr Biden’s frustrated “Will you shut up, man?” demand.

At the start of the second debate that year, delayed by Trump’s Covid diagnosis, the two men did not even shake hands.

This time, both men are out of practice. Neither has participated in any kind of debate in nearly four years, as Trump skipped the Republican primary debates on his way to becoming the party's presumptive nominee earlier this year.

Incumbent presidents frequently come out flat-footed in their opening re-election debate - a common explanation is that they are rusty or unused to being challenged after four years in the White House bubble. In this case, however, both candidates could face that challenge.

Unlike past debates, this one will be conducted in a cable television studio without a live audience to cheer - or groan. That was a request by the Biden campaign, which reportedly was concerned after a raucous Trump town hall forum hosted by CNN last year.

The debate will also feature muted microphones for candidates during their opponent's allotted speaking time, which might prevent it from spiralling into the chaos that characterised the first Trump-Biden debate in 2020. But it also could make this version a less memorable affair.

The expectations game

If one listened only to conservative commentators, President Biden will be lucky to make it through the debate without falling asleep, freezing up or wandering around the stage in confusion.

Republicans, from Trump on down, have characterised the president as senile and infirm, a shell of the man he once was.

While these attacks have played upon very real voter concern about the durability of an octogenarian president, it also has set a low bar for Mr Biden’s performance - an expectation that he has exceeded in the past, including during his energetic State of the Union address in early March.

Trump campaign officials recently tried to nudge that bar higher, noting that Mr Biden proved himself to be very effective during the 2012 vice-presidential debate against then-congressman Paul Ryan. They have also questioned the impartiality of debate host CNN.

“Will CNN decide that they are facilitator, or will CNN become a participant?” Trump campaign manager Chris LaCivita asked on Tuesday.

Trump and his campaign have also spread claims that Mr Biden will need to rely on unspecified “performance enhancing drugs” during the debate. The notion has been vehemently denied by President Biden's team but the seeding of such rumours could lay the ground for post-debate excuses if the president gets the better of his predecessor on Thursday.

Biden campaign spokeswoman Lauren Hitt said the former president was resorting to "lies" because he is “scared of being held accountable for his toxic agenda”.

President Biden may not be the only one with an opportunity to defy expectations, however. Democrats have been warning for more than a year that Trump is obsessed with revenge and retribution, and that he is an aspiring dictator who presents an existential threat to American democracy.

Biden campaign officials have said that Trump “snapped” after his 2020 election defeat and is a different man than Americans elected in 2016.

If the former president can keep his cool for 90 minutes and soften some of his sharper edges, it may help him convince the American public that the dire warnings about a potential second Trump term in office are overblown.

“Biden has got to prove that the perception that he's too old for the job is not true,” Mike Murphy, a long-time Republican political consultant, told Americast, the BBC's podcast on US politics.

“Trump's got to prove that he is not the unlikable madman that half the country thinks he is. So it's an opportunity for both of them - but also the risk is high.”

The issues

Coming into this debate, polling indicated that voters gave Trump better marks on the economy and immigration - two of the top issues for American voters.

Meanwhile, the president was favoured on abortion, healthcare and the environment.

The winner of Thursday night’s debate could well be the candidate who can best land memorable lines on areas of strength while defending his weaknesses.

Can President Biden convince voters that he shares their concerns about a surge in immigration but has been stymied by Republicans in trying to deal with it? Will former president Trump find a way to convince voters another term in office won’t lead to greater restrictions on abortion – particularly given that he appointed three Supreme Court justices who voted to overturn the federal right to the procedure?

Mr Biden has been trying for more than a year to convince the American public that the economy is better than they think it is. He’ll have a chance to make that case again to an audience of tens of millions, but he’ll have to do so in the face of what’s sure to be withering attacks from his opponent, who is expected to focus on the soaring prices and high inflation that Americans have had to live with in recent years.

“We know that Joe Biden is going to try to blame everything on President Trump,” Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller told reporters on Tuesday.

He added: “Americans know the difference between the Trump economy, which was great, where everyone was doing better, and the Biden economy.”

Getting personal

Last week, the Biden campaign launched a new series of advertisements directly attacking Trump for his recent criminal felony conviction in a New York court.

Recent polls have indicated that the guilty verdict has cost Donald Trump support among the independent voters who could prove decisive in this election.

There’s little question that Trump will be asked about the history-making court case at the debate and that President Biden will be poised to strike. If the former president gets drawn into a tirade against corrupt judges and rigged courts, it could further alienate moderate voters.

“If they can get Trump to burn the mic being a madman on neurotic defence, that that is a very good debate thing,” Mr Murphy said.

Meanwhile, President Biden has a court case of his own to deal with. His son Hunter’s conviction on felony firearm charges was also history-making, and the president - while not implicated in the case - was emotionally invested in its outcome.

Trump may take a few swipes at Hunter Biden, if not about the gun case then about his upcoming tax evasion trial, which could expose controversial details about the younger Biden's business dealings. Trump will probably attempt to paint Hunter Biden's conviction as evidence of more widespread corruption in what he calls the “Biden crime family”.

A long way to go

This is the earliest presidential debate in modern US history - held before either candidate has become the formal nominee of their party. That means the showdown could set the mood and the measure of the campaign to come, solidifying some loosely held views about the candidates and better defining the issues and stakes around November's vote.

But barring a truly catastrophic mistake by one of the candidates, the early timing could mean that when Election Day arrives, this June event will be a distant memory for the majority of Americans who only sporadically follow politics.

Both candidates will have a chance to reset and rebuild from any damage during their tightly scripted national conventions, which are taking place later in the summer. There's then another debate scheduled in September that could further erase this week from voter memories.

It’s a reality that a senior Biden campaign aide, speaking to the BBC's media partner CBS, acknowledged.

“The June debate is not a moment that we expect to define the trajectory of the election or move poll numbers in the near-term," the advisor said, adding that voters will require “consistent time and effort".

In other words, this debate is the start of a marathon, not the end of the race.

BBC
 

Trump Aide Slams Joe Biden 'Hiding Away in the Woods' Ahead of Debate​


Donald Trump's press secretary slammed President Joe Biden for "hiding away in the woods" ahead of Thursday's presidential debate.

On Thursday, Karoline Leavitt appeared on Fox News' Fox & Friends to speak about the highly anticipated event and detailed how Trump is preparing for it.

"President Trump has met with policy advisers to focus on the issues, again, that voters care about across this great country. Other than that, he's been continuing with his very busy schedule," Leavitt said. "He knows what he wants to say, unlike Joe Biden, who we understand has been hiding away in the woods at Camp David for the past week."

"And I don't think it's getting enough attention, how deeply concerning that is. The fact that the leader of the free world, the president of this country, cannot debate prep and also govern at the same time. We haven't seen Joe Biden in an entire week," she said.

Leavitt's comments came hours before the first debate between Biden and Trump in this year's presidential race. The two candidates, who are their parties' presumptive nominees, have not debated since their 2020 campaigns. Thursday's debate, which is being hosted by CNN, will take place in Atlanta. A second debate, hosted ABC News, is set for September.

Earlier this week, reports said Biden was going to Camp David to prepare for the event.

Trump has harshly criticized Biden during his campaign, calling him "the worst, most incompetent and most corrupt president." But during a recent interview on the All In podcast, he took a different tone.

 
Biden struggles in debate as personal attacks fly

Before Thursday evening, many Americans had expressed concerns about Joe Biden’s age and fitness for office. To say that this debate did not put those concerns to rest may be one of the greatest understatements of the year.

The president came into the debate with a low bar to clear, and he stumbled. He was flat. He was rambling. He was unclear.

Roughly midway through the debate, the Biden campaign told reporters that the president was battling a cold - an attempt to explain his raspy voice. That may be so, but it also sounded like an excuse.

For 90 minutes, more often than not, Joe Biden was on the ropes. Particularly early in the evening, some of his answers were nonsensical. He ended one answer by saying, “We finally beat Medicare” – an odd reference to the government-run healthcare programme for the elderly.

Mr Biden's own former communications director Kate Bedingfield was on CNN immediately after the debate, and she was clear: "There's no two ways about it, that was not a good debate for Joe Biden."

She said his biggest issue was to prove he had the energy and the stamina, and he didn't do that.

As the debate progressed, like a boxer on the ropes, Mr Biden started to take big swings against his opponent in an attempt to change the momentum. A few of those swings may have landed, provoking the former president into angry responses

That the first few topics were on the top voter issues of economy and immigration - which polls suggest Americans trust Donald Trump more on - only made the problem worse for the president.

“I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence, and I don’t think he did, either,” Trump quipped after another Biden response. That line may have summed up the night.

A more focused Trump

The former president largely offered a disciplined, nimble performance. He avoided the kind of interruptions and belligerence that undermined his first debate showing in 2020 and turned the discussion back to attacks on Mr Biden’s record whenever possible.

He repeatedly made assertions that weren't supported by facts as well as outright falsehoods, but Mr Biden largely was unable to corner him on them.

When the topic turned to abortion, for instance, the former president repeatedly shifted attention to what he said was Democratic extremism. He claimed, incorrectly, that Democrats supported abortions after babies are born.

Abortion is an issue that has proven to be a weakness for Trump and Republicans in general since the overturning of Roe v Wade - which had protected the constitutional right to abortion - by the Supreme Court in 2022. But Mr Biden’s attacks in an area where he could have scored points fell flat.

“It’s been a terrible thing, what you’ve done,” the president said.

A fighter on the ropes

At times during this debate, President Biden effectively swung back, provoking former president Trump into angry responses.

In a memorable line, Mr Biden, noting Trump’s conviction on charges that stemmed from an alleged romantic liaison with adult film star Stormy Daniels, said the former president had “the morals of an alley cat”.

“I didn’t have sex with a porn star,” Trump snapped back.

Trump also appeared on the back foot when talking about his response to the 6 January attack on the US Capitol. He initially tried to turn a question about his responsibility for the Capitol riot into a condemnation of Mr Biden’s record, but this time the president wouldn’t let him off the hook.

“He encouraged those folks to go up to Capitol Hill. He sat there for three hours as his aides begged him to do something,” Mr Biden said. “He didn’t do a damn thing.”

What happens next?

This is the earliest debate in modern US history, in part because the Biden team wanted it that way. One reason is they wanted to shift focus to Trump earlier in the campaign season, hoping that American voters would be reminded of the chaotic nature of his presidency.

But more people will be talking about Mr Biden’s performance after this debate than the former president’s.

Another reason the Biden team may have wanted an early debate is that it would give their candidate more time to recover from a weak performance. In the end, this may be what gives them comfort after Thursday night.

The Democrats have their convention in August, when they will be able to offer a more scripted vision of a second Biden term for Americans. And there’s another debate scheduled for September, which - if it happens - will be fresher in American minds as they head to the polls in November.

That may be cold comfort for Democrats, though, as they may be wondering whether a second chance at Mr Trump on the debate stage will turn out any different for their man. And some, at this point, may be thinking about how they might get a different nominee at their August convention.

BBC
 

Democrats scramble to limit damage after Biden's wobbly debate showing against Trump​


President Joe Biden's allies scrambled on Friday to contain the fallout from his faltering performance at the first 2024 U.S. presidential debate after he struggled to stem a barrage of attacks and false claims from his Republican rival Donald Trump.

The Biden campaign had hoped that a strong debate would quell concerns among voters that the 81-year-old Democratic incumbent is too old to serve a second four-year term.

Instead, a hoarse-sounding Biden stumbled over his words at times, especially in the early stages of the debate.

One Biden donor, who asked for anonymity to speak freely about the president, called his performance "disqualifying" and predicted that some Democrats would revisit calls for Biden to step aside in favor of another candidate ahead of the party's national convention in August.

Panicking Democrats exchanged messages wondering whether Biden would consider stepping down.

One senior Democratic strategist said that it would be unprecedented for an incumbent to pull out this late in the election cycle, but that there would be calls for Biden to do just that.

Interviews with undecided voters confirmed that it was a bad night for Biden. They described his showing as feeble, embarrassing and difficult to watch.

Two White House officials said mid-debate that Biden had a cold, but that only further reflected his aides' anxiety about his performance.

Vice President Kamala Harris conceded that Biden had a "slow start" but argued that his record over 3-1/2 years as president outweighed one 90-minute event.

California Governor Gavin Newsom - who could be a leading Democratic alternative if Biden stepped aside - dismissed the notion that Biden could be replaced.

Trump, 78, has also faced questions about his fitness for office, given his conviction last month in New York for covering up hush money payments to a porn star, his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and his chaotic term in office.

But despite a litany of falsehoods from Trump during the debate, the focus in the aftermath was squarely on the incumbent.

Neither candidate is popular, and polls show many Americans are dissatisfied with their options. The country is deeply polarized, and a majority of voters have expressed concern that political violence could follow the election.

The debate at CNN headquarters in Atlanta took place far earlier in the campaign than any modern presidential debate, with more than four months - an eternity in U.S. politics - before the Nov. 5 election.

That could mitigate the damage for Biden, as the memory of his performance fades and news events generate fresh headlines.

Trump, for instance, is scheduled to be sentenced in New York on July 11, just days before his party convenes to formally nominate him. He still faces three other criminal indictments, though none appears likely to reach trial before November.

With opinion polls showing the race in a dead heat going into the debate, even a small shift could alter the campaign's trajectory.

At a Waffle House restaurant in Atlanta in the wee hours on Friday, Biden stopped for food on his way back to the campaign trail, telling reporters, "I think we did well."

Asked whether he had any concerns about his performance, he said, "No. It's hard to debate a liar."

Biden was headed for a Friday rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, a state that Democrats hope to win back from Republicans this November, before flying to New York for a fundraiser and the opening of a monument dedicated to the 1969 Stonewall riot for LGBT rights.

Trump will hold a rally on Friday in Virginia, a state he has lost twice but hopes to put into play in November.

The two candidates clashed on Thursday over the economy, abortion, immigration and the wars in Ukraine and Gaza in a debate that included some deeply personal attacks.

Trump unleashed numerous familiar false claims, including that the 2020 election was fraudulent, that Democrats support infanticide and that migrants have carried out a wave of violent crime. He defended his supporters arrested for storming the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, refused to say whether he would accept this year's election results and suggested he might prosecute Biden if he wins.

But Biden struggled to fact-check his predecessor in real time, and CNN moderators Jake Tapper and Dana Bash did not correct Trump on air.

Biden landed some blows during the debate. He called Trump a felon and noted that the majority of Trump's former cabinet have declined to endorse his campaign.

"This guy has no sense of American democracy," Biden said during a segment on the Jan. 6 attack.

Biden also blamed Trump for enabling the elimination of a nationwide right to abortion by appointing conservatives to the U.S. Supreme Court, an issue that has bedeviled Republicans since 2022.

On immigration, Trump's strongest issue, the former president accused Biden of failing to secure the southern U.S. border, ushering in scores of criminals.

But studies show immigrants do not commit crimes at a higher rate than native-born Americans.

The two candidates' intense dislike for each other was in plain view throughout the debate, starting when they did not shake hands as they took the stage.

Biden called Trump a "whiner" and a "child" who, he said, cheated on his wife with a porn star; Trump said Biden was a "disaster" and a "Manchurian candidate" who favored China over the U.S. At one point, the debate devolved into a fight over which man had a better golf game.

The second and final debate in this year's campaign is scheduled for September.

 
That was a train wreck for Biden. Bigger question is how long has he been senile behind the scenes? Who is actually calling the shots and running the country? Why did the Democrats not grow a pair and tell him to step aside much earlier? Why did they not search for an alternative candidate a while back? Do they have any candidate who can counter punch the Trump wave?

In the present state, i don't think Biden can even complete his remaining term let alone run for another 4 years in office.
 
Biden acknowledges age, bad debate performance but vows to beat Trump

RALEIGH, North Carolina, June 28 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden said on Friday he intended to defeat Republican rival Donald Trump in the November presidential election, giving no sign he would consider dropping out of the race after a feeble debate performance that dismayed his fellow Democrats.

"I know I'm not a young man, to state the obvious," an ebullient Biden said at a rally one day after the head-to-head showdown with his Republican rival, which was widely viewed as a defeat for the 81-year-old president.

"I don't walk as easy as I used to, I don't speak as smoothly as I used to, I don't debate as well as I used to," he said, as the crowd chanted "four more years."

"I would not be running again if I didn't believe with all my heart and soul that I could do this job. The stakes are too high," Biden said.

Biden's verbal stumbles and occasionally meandering responses in the debate heightened voter concerns that he might not be fit to serve another four-year term and prompted some of his fellow Democrats to wonder whether they could replace him as their candidate for theNov. 5 U.S. election.

Campaign spokesperson Michael Tyler said there were no conversations taking place about that possibility. "We'd rather have one bad night than a candidate with a bad vision for where he wants to take the country," he told reporters aboard Air Force One.

The campaign held an "all hands on deck" meeting on Friday afternoon to reassure staffers that Biden was not dropping out of the race, according to two people familiar with the meeting.


 
Biden falters as Trump unleashes lies during debate

President Joe Biden delivered a shaky, halting performance while his Republican rival Donald Trump battered him with a series of often false attacks at their debate on Thursday, as the two oldest presidential candidates exchanged personal insults ahead of the November election.

The two men traded barbs on abortion, immigration, the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, their handling of the economy and even their golf games as they each sought to shake up what opinion polls show has been a virtually tied race for months.

Biden’s allies tried to put a brave face on the evening, and two White House officials said Biden had a cold. But the president’s poor performance rattled his fellow Democrats and will likely deepen voter concerns that the 81-year-old is too old to serve another four-year term.

One top Biden donor, who did not want to be identified while criticising the president, called his performance “disqualifying” and said he expected a fresh round of calls for him to step aside ahead of the party’s national convention in August.

A hoarse-sounding Biden stumbled over his words on several occasions during the debate’s first half-hour. But he found his footing at the halfway mark when he attacked Trump over his conviction for covering up hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels, calling him a “felon”.

In response, Trump brought up the recent conviction of Biden’s son, Hunter, for lying about his drug use to buy a gun.

Moments later, Biden noted that almost all of Trump’s former cabinet members, including former Vice President Mike Pence, have not endorsed his campaign. “They know him well, they served with him,” he said. “Why are they not endorsing him?”

Trump, meanwhile, unleashed a barrage of criticisms, many of which were well-worn falsehoods he has long repeated, including claims that migrants have carried out a crime wave, that Democrats support infanticide and that he actually won the 2020 election.

Biden and Trump, 78, were both under pressure to display their fitness for office. The two men — who have made little secret of their mutual dislike — did not shake hands or acknowledge each other before or after the debate.

But there were plenty more moments in which their bad blood was evident. Each called the other the worst president in history.

REUTERS
 

Donald Trump criticized for ‘Palestinian’ insult in debate with Biden​


Human rights advocates on Friday condemned former President Donald Trump’s references to Palestinians, and immigrants allegedly taking Black American jobs, during Thursday’s debate with President Joe Biden, calling the remarks racist or insulting.

Biden and Trump had a brief exchange on the war in Gaza but did not have a substantive discussion on how to end the conflict which has killed 38,000 in the enclave, according to the Gaza health ministry, and caused a massive humanitarian crisis with widespread hunger.

The war began when Palestinian Hamas militants attacked Israel on Oct. 7, killing 1,200 people and abducting some 250 others, according to Israeli tallies.

“The only one who wants the war to continue is Hamas,” Biden said. Trump responded by saying Biden has “become like a Palestinian,” which rights advocates said came across as a slur.

“Actually, Israel is the one (that wants to keep going), and you should let them go and let them finish the job. He (Biden) doesn’t want to do it. He’s become like a Palestinian but they don’t like him because he’s a very bad Palestinian. He’s a weak one,” Trump said.

On Friday, Trump again used the term ‘Palestinian’ in a similar way, this time saying in a rally that Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, who is Jewish, was Palestinian. “He’s become a Palestinian because they have a couple more votes or something,” he added.

The Council on American Islamic Relations advocacy group said Biden was wrong to claim that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wants the war to end, while adding it viewed Trump’s Palestinian comment in the debate as a racist insult.

“Former President Trump’s use of ‘Palestinian’ as an insult was racist. President Biden’s touting of his military support for the Israeli government’s genocide in Gaza was callous,” Corey Saylor, research and advocacy director at CAIR, said in a statement. Israel denies allegations of genocide.

“To insinuate that being Palestinian is somehow a bad thing, as former President Trump did when he called President Biden Palestinian, reeks of racism and anti-Arab hatred,” Paul O’Brien, executive director of Amnesty International USA, told Reuters.

Human rights advocates have reported a rise in Islamophobia, anti-Palestinian bias and antisemitism in the US since the latest eruption of conflict in the Middle East.

The war in Gaza and Washington’s support for Israel has also led to months of protests across the United States calling for an end to the conflict.

Trump also faced criticism for using the term “Black jobs” and “Hispanic jobs” while claiming immigrants who were coming into the United States from its border with Mexico were taking away those employment opportunities.

The Trump campaign did not have an immediate comment to the criticism.

Immigration is a key election issue and Trump has claimed Biden has failed to secure the southern US border, ushering in scores of criminals. Studies show immigrants do not commit crimes at a higher rate than native-born Americans.

“The fact is that his (Biden’s) big kill on the Black people is the millions of people that he’s allowed to come in through the border,” Trump said during the debate. “They’re taking Black jobs, and they’re taking Hispanic jobs.”

Civil rights organization NAACP wrote on X: “What exactly are Black and Hispanic Jobs!?!.” It added: “There is no such thing as a Black Job.”

Amnesty International’s O’Brien told Reuters that Trump’s comments on immigration were grounded in white supremacy.

“It is disheartening that false narratives grounded in white supremacy and racism about people seeking asylum at the border and immigrant communities in the United States continue to permeate our national discourse,” he added.

Adrianne Shropshire, executive director of BlackPAC, an organization that works to mobilize Black voters, said Trump’s remarks were not true and that Biden should have pushed back harder on such false claims.

“That there are specific Black jobs for Black people that immigrants are coming to take. Utter nonsense,” Shropshire said.

Trump’s campaign has made an effort to court Black voters, with the former president visiting Detroit and Philadelphia in recent weeks.

Some polls have shown a downtick in support for Biden among Black voters, who historically have been among the Democratic Party’s most loyal voting blocs.

 
Biden blames jet lag and travel for poor debate performance

President Joe Biden has blamed his poor debate performance last week on jet lag, telling reporters that he "wasn't very smart" for "travelling around the world a couple of times" before the debate.

"I didn’t listen to my staff... and then I nearly fell asleep on stage,” he said.

Mr Biden, 81, last returned from travel on 15 June, nearly two weeks ahead of the 27 June debate.

Mr Biden's remarks come amid intra-party panic ahead of November's election over his mental fitness, and after a congressman from Texas became the first sitting Democratic lawmaker to call for him to step aside following his debate.

"I am hopeful that he will make the painful and difficult to decision to withdraw," Rep Lloyd Doggett said in a statement on Tuesday.

President Biden appeared to struggle through some responses during a debate with former President Donald Trump last Thursday.

"It’s not an excuse but an explanation,” he said at a private fundraiser in Virginia on Tuesday evening, referring to his travel.

He also apologised for his performance and said it was "critical" that he win re-election, according to ABC News.

Mr Biden made two separate trips to Europe in the span of two weeks last month.

On 15 June, he appeared at a fundraiser alongside former President Barack Obama after an overnight trip from Italy. He returned to Washington DC the following day.

White House officials have previously said Mr Biden's was battling a cold on the day of the debate.

The president did not mention any illness in his remarks on Tuesday. A spokeswoman for the White House said earlier in the day that he was not taking any cold medication during the debate.

Mr Biden also spent six days at Camp David, the presidential retreat outside Washington DC, preparing for his debate against Mr Trump.

The New York Times, citing an unnamed source familiar with Mr Biden's schedule, reported on Tuesday that his days began at 11:00 each morning and that he was given time each day to nap.

The newspaper also reported that he was so exhausted from his travel that his debate preparations were cut short by two days to give him time to rest at his beach house in Delaware.

Andrew Bates, a spokesman for Mr Biden, said the president began "working well before" 11:00, after his exercise routine, during his time at Camp David.

His age has been a long-simmering issue this election, with voters in multiple polls saying they think he is too old to be effective.

Mr Biden is currently the Democratic Party's presumptive nominee for the White House.

He has vowed to stay in the race despite the debate performance.

In his Tuesday statement, Rep Doggett, 77, said the debate solidified his decision to urge Mr Biden to step aside.

"Instead of reassuring voters, the President failed to effectively defend his many accomplishments and expose Trump's many lies," said Rep Doggett, who was sworn in in 1995 and is running for reelection.

He said too much is at stake to risk the president losing to Trump over fears about his age.

"While much of his work has been transformational, he pledged to be transitional," the congressman said of Mr Biden.

"He has the opportunity to encourage a new generation of leaders from whom a nominee can be chosen to unite our country through an open, democratic process."

"My decision to make these strong reservations public is not done lightly nor does it in any way diminish my respect for all that President Biden has achieved," Rep Doggett said.

Mr Biden will give a primetime interview to ABC News' George Stephanopoulos on Friday, his first since the debate.

Some prominent Democratic lawmakers voiced their concerns about Mr Biden's age and stamina this week, but none until Rep Doggett has called for him to move aside as a candidate.

Other top Democrats have acknowledged fears about Mr Biden's ability to win but emphasised that the choice to leave the race is the president's alone.

Several have flocked to liberal-leaning network MSNBC to defend him.

"It's going to be up to Joe Biden" to do what he thinks is best, former US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told MSNBC on Tuesday.

One of President Biden's most important backers, Congressman Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, said he would support Vice-President Kamala Harris as the party's nominee if Mr Biden stepped down.

But he told the network: "I want this ticket to continue to be Biden-Harris."

Congressman Jamie Raskin, a Democrat from Maryland, told MSNBC this weekend that the debate created a "difficult situation".

He acknowledged that there were "very honest and serious and rigorous conversations taking place at every level of our party."

But he added: “Regardless of what President Biden decides, our party is going to be unified and our party also needs him at the very centre of our deliberations in our campaign."

BBC
 
White House bats down reports Biden assessing exit from presidential race

United States President Joe Biden has pledged to stay in the presidential race, despite media reports he was assessing an exit following a dismal debate showing against his Republican challenger, former President Donald Trump, last week.

Biden was resolute when he joined a call with campaign staff on Wednesday, despite growing concern about the 81-year-old’s viability in the race in November against Trump, including from members of his own party.

“I am running,” Biden said during the call, two sources told the Reuters news agency. He added he would not be pushed out as the Democratic Party’s nominee.

White House spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre later echoed the sentiment in comments to reporters, saying that Biden was “absolutely not” considering stepping down.

Jean-Pierre was responding to a slate of reports in US media that Biden had told confidants that he was aware his candidacy had suffered in the wake of his performance in his first live face-off with Trump of the election cycle.

The New York Times and ABC News both reported that Biden had told allies that the next few days will be significant in recovering his standing, although sources speaking to both outlets stressed that he wanted to continue.

At 78, Biden was the oldest person ever sworn into the US presidency following his victory in the 2020 election over Trump. A second victory would see him leave office at the age of 86. If Trump were to win in November, he would also be 78 when he enters office for his second term.


 
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