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Over 900 FC dismissals for Kamran Akmal....
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Over 900 FC dismissals for Kamran Akmal....
Deserves three chances. Better than Rizwan as a batter and the unreliable openers. Will atleast make 30+ runs in an innings.
Haha, how many chances has he been given since this thread began?
KARACHI: Many consider sidelined Kamran Akmal as a spent force; but the wicket-keeper is alive and kicking in the current domestic season.
The most experienced wicket-keeper in the current Pakistan lot has regained his batting form, making vital contributions for his department — the National Bank of Pakistan (NBP) in the ongoing President’s Cup One-Day Trophy.
Kamran, who has played 53 Tests, 154 One-Day Internationals (ODI) and 50 Twenty20s, was dropped following last year’s Champions Trophy due to persistent batting failure.
Even though the player had been preferred due to his batting skills, he scored only 238 runs from 13 ODI matches at an average of just 18 last year, before being dropped.
However, he has started scoring runs and has so far made 251 from seven innings including a century and a half century in the One Day Cup for his side.
When questioned about the change in form, he replied to The Express Tribune and said, “The batting order. I am an upper-order batsman in ODIs and T20s. Unfortunately, I did not get enough of a chance to bat due to the relegation in my batting order [in the national squad].
“I’ve proven this with my performance as an opener in the domestic circuit. I was successful in showing my skills as a batsman in the past because the previous captains [Inzamamul Haq, Shoaib Malik and Shahid Afridi] used me as an opener.
“It’s not justified to expect the same from me while batting at number seven or eight.”
The wicket-keeper further stated that he needed just three chances to prove his mettle.
“I am playing well. Just give me three chances as an opener and if I fail to deliver, then I will have no complaints even if I’ll be dropped permanently,” said the wicket-keeper before adding that he was looking to play for Pakistan for the next five to seven years.
‘Umar’s formula not beneficial in longer role’
Kamran, who has undergone 447 dismissals in international cricket, the highest by any Pakistan wicket-keeper, felt Umar Akmal’s dual role was not effective in the longer run.
“Umar is enjoying his new role [wicket-keeper/batsman], but I think it’s not affective for him as well as for the team in the longer run.
“He can play an effective role as a specialist batsman. Umar’s batting will later be affected because of this additional responsibility.”
Published in The Express Tribune, January 13th, 2014.
Lol.
If Shan Masoods can get 32 chances, then why not Kami?
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If Shan Masood had already gotten 250 prior chances while averaging 25, he probably wouldn't still be getting more chances![]()
I know. I wasn't serious.
But for World t20, if we're not able to find someone decent, I'm not sure who else we can resort to. Don't need accumulators there.
I really, genuinely don't get it? Where does the entitlement come from? Nobody has a God given right to be picked for their country at the highest level, and it's certainly not a humiliation if you're not picked.
Does this guy have ability. Yes. Can he score at a brisk rate once every three at the highest level. Maybe. When the team toured the Windies in early 2017 his scores were 22, 0, 48 and 20. He didn't set the World alight against a Windies team without it's T20 stalwarts. What was noticeable was that he did score boundaries but did not rotate strike, a longstanding Pakistan batting issue.
Since then, he has gotten two years older and his reactions as a keeper would have slowed down further. And let's remember that this is a guy wasn't a great keeper to begin with. I take [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] 's point on him having the most dismissals, but that is in first class mode, where the intensity is much lower than an international T20.
Does Kami have ability. Yes. Can he score at a brisk rate once every three at the highest level. Maybe. When the team toured the Windies in early 2017 his scores were 22, 0, 48 and 20. He didn't set the World alight against a Windies team without it's T20 stalwarts. What was noticeable was that he did score boundaries but did not rotate strike, a longstanding Pakistan batting issue.
Since then, he has gotten two years older and his reactions as a keeper would have slowed down further. And let's remember that this is a guy wasn't a great keeper to begin with. I take [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] 's point on him having the most dismissals, but that is in first class mode, where the intensity is much lower than an international T20.
I don't really get this decision by PCB to select those two dinosaurs but snubbing the performer Kamran who has performed in every season of PSL. Kamran is younger than both of them and can provide quick start for the powerplay overs.
What can Malik and Hafeez do? Both of them were failures during the WC and the pitches in Australia are even quicker. I don't see them performing well against Starc, Cummins, Boult, Ferguson and even Cottrell.
This is a very very sad situation for Kami.
We brought in the new domestic setup so that it's more reliable and we can pick national team players from it.
If you won't value performances in this domestic setup, then what's its use?
Kamran Akmal is one of the best performers there. He has excellent ability at the top order, particularly as an opener, to smash fast bowlers and give us quick starts.
He's the perfect partner for someone like Sharjeel - both extremely dynamic openers who can change the game in a matter of 5 overs.
Kamran Akmal, Umar Akmal and Sharjeel Khan (provided he performs in the PSL) are a MUST for World T20.
Misbah, you have to pick them! Don't care about our casual cricket fans who just whine and cry whenever they see the name of Akmals. Irrationally.
Please can you answer a question?
If you were the selector of Pakistan and picked a player based on great domestic performances, gave him lots of chances and he performed poorly at the international level. After dropping him, he returned to domestic level, performed brilliantly again, and you selected him again. But he performed in line with his previous standards - ie poor and was dropped. He then returned to domestic and performed amazingly, and was selected. Of course he failed again at the international level.
After how many chances would you stop picking him, given his technique, fitness, footwork, attitude, age etc all seemed to show no improvement. Or would you continue to pick him every time he performed domestically? Refusing to acknowledge that his capabilities might be limited to bashing domestic bowlers.
Good question.
First, Kami has played quite clutch knocks over the years. And has shown that he does have ability. On a good day, he's a game-changer.
Now, after having too many bad days, he got dropped, which is the right thing to do. The cycle continued for a while, I agree.
During that cycle we tried:
-Player A: failed
-Player B: failed
-Player C: failed
-Player D: failed
-Player E: failed
Examples: Ahmed Shehzad, Imam ul Haq, Fakhar, a few others. Meanwhile, we ran out of all the options. There's nobody promising to pick up and replace the failures with.
There's someone who's in red-hot form, playing our top bowlers with ease in our new domestic setup. People get over their past poor form.
Wouldn't you recall him? Who else would you pick? For now we're trying Ahsan Ali, I hope he succeeds, but we need a partner for him, and there's no suitable pick right now.
Good question.
First, Kami has played quite clutch knocks over the years. And has shown that he does have ability. On a good day, he's a game-changer.
Now, after having too many bad days, he got dropped, which is the right thing to do. The cycle continued for a while, I agree.
During that cycle we tried:
-Player A: failed
-Player B: failed
-Player C: failed
-Player D: failed
-Player E: failed
Examples: Ahmed Shehzad, Imam ul Haq, Fakhar, a few others. Meanwhile, we ran out of all the options. There's nobody promising to pick up and replace the failures with.
There's someone who's in red-hot form, playing our top bowlers with ease in our new domestic setup. People get over their past poor form.
Wouldn't you recall him? Who else would you pick? For now we're trying Ahsan Ali, I hope he succeeds, but we need a partner for him, and there's no suitable pick right now.
Ball goes through the legs of Kamran Akmal for four - his keeping skills are seriously degraded nowadays
All the credit to him for his domestic and PSL performances. But these keeping lapses were unacceptable 10 years ago in bilateral test matches, and they certainly have no room in a T20 World Cup where the margins are already too small. Maybe he'll even have one or two good outings with the bat, but the keeping, inconsistency in scoring and his age are too heavy a cost for that one potential inning.
Lost them the game, Ramiz mentioned it in the post match presentation as well.
And to think there are ppl here who try and justify his selection for the national team![]()
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] ‘it could happen to anyone, it’s not important. Anyway that was like 2 hours ago. Why are people always bringing up the past. It makes no sense’
Keep bumping threads after one good or bad performance. Knee-jerks that suit your agenda, doesn't look too good. You then have to get embarrassed when a good performance happens.
Remind me again who is the best opener and/or WK/bat from PAK players at the PSL?
Play him as a batesman?
Keep bumping threads after one good or bad performance. Knee-jerks that suit your agenda, doesn't look too good. You then have to get embarrassed when a good performance happens.
Remind me again who is the best opener and/or WK/bat from PAK players at the PSL?
I just don't see him firing like he does in the PSL or National T20 when he's facing the likes of Cummins, Starc, Bumrah, Shami, Ngidi, Rabada, Mujeeb, Archer etc. Not saying we have openers/top-order lined up ready to take them all on. But are we seriously going to take a near 40-year old as a specialist batsman in Australia? With another World Cup just in the next year? It makes no sense. He's not even having that great of a PSL season.
If we have no one of the very top calibre, then just better to take the next best options and give them the exposure. Also change the line-up so guys like Shadab can get more time at the top. If it works, great, if not we'll know. But it's at least forward-looking experimentation.
It's typical Akmal to score one century and no nothing in the next 8 games. There is a reason he averages 29 something in international cricket. He will always remain like this.
Don't doubt his ability but just not consistent enough for international cricket against better bowlers.
Fair enough. I found myself in the 'give Kamran another chance' camp at the beginning of the PSL but your post sums up why this probably isn't a good idea.
It's not that his performances are bad, he still hits as clean as anyone in Pakistan and we need cricketers like him. However, his age, his dire keeping abilities and the general unlikeability of any cricketer with an Akmal surname will always be an argument against him. All things considered i'm starting to prefer a recall for Safaraz for the WC.
Keep bumping threads after one good or bad performance. Knee-jerks that suit your agenda, doesn't look too good. You then have to get embarrassed when a good performance happens.
Remind me again who is the best opener and/or WK/bat from PAK players at the PSL?
You just shorten the pool too much when you say "WK/bat". If we start off the assumption that he's not really a wicketkeeper at all, and especially not at the international level because he's still as pathetic behind the stumps as he ever was and has only aged, the argument left is him as a batsman.
And for that, there are younger options with whom we can't do worse if not better over the course of a tournament. And they might surprise us once they have that exposure. Akmal has no more surprises left in him.
All the credit to him for his domestic and PSL performances. But these keeping lapses were unacceptable 10 years ago in bilateral test matches, and they certainly have no room in a T20 World Cup where the margins are already too small. Maybe he'll even have one or two good outings with the bat, but the keeping, inconsistency in scoring and his age are too heavy a cost for that one potential inning.
Good sensible post. Kami was always in the team as a wicketkeeper batsman, however everyone, even his die hard fans, accepted he was and is a terrible terrible keeper. So really he's in the team for his batting. And quite frankly, even in this 'outstanding' tournament he is having, it consists of one decent innings during which he was fed some rubbish bowling. In fact he has been outbatted in the tournament by Shadab who has more runs in less innings at the same strike rate and with more 6's.
This is the story of his career. The last good PSL too he failed in most innings except 3.
There is a reason why this guy asks for 3 chances. He knows he has no consistency or ability. He knows this, his fans however don't.
I woulsnt take him 100 percent.give them exposure are stating you want someone who hasnt played international cricket in the squad bro.
Not most of the squad but if they try out someone like Haider Ali and any others after the PSL and before the World Cup, and they make a case for themselves, I mean them. There's a few games and the Asia Cup is also supposed to be right before the World Cup. And rejigging the batting order around. Need to have more firepower in the top 4. Can't have Hafeez etc. coming one or two down.
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Strike hogging in the power play might have cost his team the final