(Video) Mohammad Amir criticizing Waqar Younis's coaching and comparing him to Aaqib Javed

[Savak]

Watch from 27:00 onwards. He makes the following comments

- He bowled well in that ODI in 2009 where he troubled Shane Watson and Ricky Ponting with his pace, late inswing and got praised by Aussie Commentators, Media for the talent he displayed. Even though the other bowlers didn't bowl that well, Waqar didn't have the guts to take them to task and instead gave him a lashing in the dressing room because he was a young junior.

- He says he listened to Waqar's instructions about pitching the ball up in the next game to Shane Watson and he got smashed by Watson. Afridi then came up to Amir and told him to just bowl whatever he felt was right given the match situation and ignore whatever Waqar told him in the dressing room. He highlighted that these ex legends were always stubborn who refuse to acknowledge that they can be wrong as well. The moment i adjusted and resorted to the short of a length stuff i got 4 wickets.

- All the tricks of the trade in bowling, i learnt from Aqib Javed. He was my U19, NCA, Academy coach and he taught me all the different grips for bowling. Wahab then further states that all his bowling, he has been taught by Aqib Javed and claimed that he doesn't really get the credit he deserves.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

By praising Aqib it proves he is following an agenda. Has weaken argument by praising Aqib who is well known to have destroyed several budding fast bowling careers. Also holds record for being worst coach in t20 franchise cricket history (in terms of % of losses)

 

[ElRaja]

i dont think there is any doubt that waqar was an appalling coach, but amir just comes across bitter.

 

[hitthestump]

Obviously don't trust a word that is coming out of his mouth. Aqib has been heavily ridiculed in other spaces.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Aqib may have been a good technical bowling coach but has always been a foul mouthed individual.

Amir has no credibility. Expect him to say anything if you give him the right amount.

Saleem Malik, another wretched individual who won't ever be allowed to hold any post in PCB or any board linked to ICC.

The thing about Wahab working with Aqib since his start has been a known story. And Wahab has worked hard. But then again, he has spent all his career without being able to swing the new ball. Wahab isn't a poster boy for a coach considering he's had a pretty average international career.

Waqar may have been a bad bowling coach, similar to Aqib.

Mohammad Asif was mostly a self taught bowler and the skills he had can't really be acquired by anyone.

Shoaib Akhtar has way more credibility than Amir, Saleem and Wahab even though Shoaib himself isn't someone to be taken seriously.

 

[Rana]

Sir Aqib Javed

Legend

 

[Rana]

Aqib Javed’s revolutionary/visionary statements>>>Misbah+Waqar coaching achievements

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Aqib was a laughing stock for most his career, regularly labeled as a stupid individual and was a figure of ridicule on this forum.

Now that he is the pied piper of the anti babar movement he seems to have assembled followers who dance to his tune.

 

[TheSultan]

Aqib may be a destroyer of actions, but he knew how to bowl conventional swing a lot better than Waqar. So I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to benefit guys like amir and Wahab from that perspective.

Waqar had destructiveness. It required the God given gift of pace and the one art he mastered - reverse swing. He didn’t really need to study and learn all the subtleties of bowling because the couple of things he had were enough. It didn’t require any subtlety of conventional swing, seam, change of pace etc. Aqib had to learn that because he didn’t have the destructive pace of Waqar. So biased as Amir may be (btw wahab is corroborating what Waqar said too and I don’t think he has much of an axe to grind with Waqar), it is perfectly plausible for Amir and Wahab to learn these wrist positions from Aqib. And that is all they are talking about.

I have no reason to doubt this.

 

[Zaz]

Aqib may be a destroyer of actions, but he knew how to bowl conventional swing a lot better than Waqar. So I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to benefit guys like amir and Wahab from that perspective.

Waqar had destructiveness. It required the God given gift of pace and the one art he mastered - reverse swing. He didn’t really need to study and learn all the subtleties of bowling because the couple of things he had were enough. It didn’t require any subtlety of conventional swing, seam, change of pace etc. Aqib had to learn that because he didn’t have the destructive pace of Waqar. So biased as Amir may be (btw wahab is corroborating what Waqar said too and I don’t think he has much of an axe to grind with Waqar), it is perfectly plausible for Amir and Wahab to learn these wrist positions from Aqib. And that is all they are talking about.

I have no reason to doubt this.

Waqar developed into a decent new ball swing bowler post his pace loss

If you watch his bowling from 2001 and especially the england odi series where he took 6fer and 7fer onwards you will see he was playing as a fast medium swing bowler taking wkts upfront with new ball and swing so no i dont think aaqib knew more about swing and seam than waqar did

 

[TheSultan]

Waqar developed into a decent new ball swing bowler post his pace loss

If you watch his bowling from 2001 and especially the england odi series where he took 6fer and 7fer onwards you will see he was playing as a fast medium swing bowler taking wkts upfront with new ball and swing so no i dont think aaqib knew more about swing and seam than waqar did

Yes I agree Waqar was a very good outswing new ball bowler towards the end of his career.

But my point is for Waqar it came later. For Aqib is was his bread and butter for his whole career. He had to work out it’s intricacies in a lot more detail.

If you were going to learn something from Aqib, then outswing and seam etc were the things to learn. Could Waqar teach it better - maybe, but Aqib was the NCA coach for a long time so I have no reason to doubt this story.

 

[saeedhk]

Being a good bowler doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be a good coach. Waqar has been with the pakistani set up for at least 10 years and he has done absolutely nothing. When he got kicked out last time, he made a 26-page report about the issues and improvements needed for Pak cricket despite being the coach! One thing Amir is absolutely correct is that our ex-players have a massive ego and hate to be proven wrong. Same is happening with Babar as he doesn’t want Haris to open and in case he scores, Babar is proven wrong. I’m not taking Aqib Javed’s side because even he hasn’t done much.

 

[Major]

Aqib was a laughing stock for most his career, regularly labeled as a stupid individual and was a figure of ridicule on this forum.

Now that he is the pied piper of the anti babar movement he seems to have assembled followers who dance to his tune.

Oh yes I remember during the good old days in 2010. Aqib Jared was a laughing stock, he was changing bowlers action.

Waqar was praised by Wahab to an extent that Wahab calls him his father.

Anyways, Amir has his own issues. Basically waqar emphasizes on fitness which amir hated.

When Pakistan qualified for semis amir was visibly unhappy and kept saying that its due to the Dutch and he sprouted every stupid reason he could give.

I'm hoping rameez raja places a bad on him from psl or he gets caught in a spot fixing gig so that his career ends forever