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[VIDEO] "Our batting has gone to another level, fielding has been very disappointing": Mickey Arthur

Mickey Arthur presser quotes after the series against England:

"Mohammad Amir trained yesterday, it was the first time he was allowed to train. He had another one today. If selected, he'll be ready"

"In terms of selection, Inzi and I will talk tomorrow to finalise the squad"

"We've got until the 23rd to finalise the squad"

"At the moment, Abid Ali is in the squad and he's the reserve opener and wicket-keeper"

"Fielding has been very disappointing, it's been the massive difference between the two sides"

"At Southampton and Nottingham, going into the last 5 overs it was anyone's game. We competed really well and the one difference was our fielding which is a worry. We're putting a hell of a lot of effort into it and there's not a massive amount of reward. We'll keep knocking away just to make sure that we get it up to speed"

"You don't want to single out players but we have a couple of young, new players who weren't part of that regime and we're trying to equip them and bring them up to speed as quickly as we can"

"Grant Bradburn is doing a wonderful job. We always say fielding is about attitude, and wanting to get out there and get it done. Our boys' attitude has been outstanding through the series and for the years before, they know where they're short and they're working damn hard at it"

"We were beaten at Edgbaston hands down at the CT in the group stage and I didn't know where to turn that day. We sit here today having taken a huge amount of positives out of the series. I thought our batting has gone to another level, I thought we batted extremely well. Our bowling has been average at best, and our fielding has been average but we've batted well so there's a lot of positives"

"People coming to England said we were a 280 team, we've dispelled that. That's given our batting unit a massive amount of confidence. I'm taking a fair amount of positives out of that department from the series"

"We've played against a team that's #1 in their own conditions"

"We've got a couple of days to regroup, 2 warmup games and then we go. I'm very confident with the players we've got. We need to sharpen up on a couple of disciplines but we'll get there, we'll be good"

"All I know is that the players are very determined to do well. The players play for 210 million people every time they go out there. We all take defeats in a disappointing way as our supporters do. The players are good, we'll be ready come the first game against WI. I'm as confident that we'll do well as I've ever been"
 
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It’s the truth! If we had fielded well the result would have been much different.
 
England effectively killed the game with those two run outs and a fluke catch from Rashid.

Pakistan has been below average. Probably just a bit better than a club side.
 
Well that's what happens when you compromise on fitness just to accommodate your favourites like Imad even if they're ridiculously immobile.
 
We've tried to rectify this for decades and nothing's changed. Pak players have a mindset that they don't need to work hard outside of batting and bowling.
 
Some one's reading PP threads.

Fielding was the biggest difference. However bowling was a big difference too. So was batting.
 
Fielding was the biggest difference. However bowling was a big difference too. So was batting.

Mickey focusing on the positives. You know he's a half glass full person.

the 3rd odi we should have won, imam should never have come back to bat. another 10 runs would have done it.

Umpiring has been below standards and went against pak in this series.
 
The bowling with the new ball was also a big difference. Unacceptable today, and it has been pretty poor at the death as well. So yeah perhaps a slight exaggeration to say fielding was the only difference.
 
the 3rd odi we should have won, imam should never have come back to bat. another 10 runs would have done it.

Umpiring has been below standards and went against pak in this series.

Inzi called up micky to send imam while another phone call was made to maj ghafoor to assign imam with a nishaan e haider medal for his bravado on making 5 off 18 balls. Afterall its the intent that counts... results can go for a toss
 
Lol Mickey Arthur as usual just talking good but having nothing to show for it.
 
We've tried to rectify this for decades and nothing's changed. Pak players have a mindset that they don't need to work hard outside of batting and bowling.

To be honest i think the players do their best but after a long schedule the lack of fitness, stamina and a sporting culture catches up.
 
Fielding has always been poor in my 40 years of watching them apart from a brief period where Rixon worked some magic.

However in the past we made up for it with wicket taking bowling. The current bowling line-up is truly abysmal and embarrassing. Amir will not improve things - although marginally better with the new ball, and with the arrival of Shadab may make us a bit better all round.

No idea why Hasnain was picked in the WC squad and people like Raees & Shinwari were not. Utter claptrap.
 
In the commentary box, Bumble was laughing at our fielding and running between the wickets 20-25 years ago and today he was still laughing. :maqsood
 
Our fielding was crap but please Mickey bhai don't act like our bowling which your harp on about was any good.
 
The bowling with the new ball was also a big difference. Unacceptable today, and it has been pretty poor at the death as well. So yeah perhaps a slight exaggeration to say fielding was the only difference.

Agreed it's just criminal to concede 95 runs in the first powerplay.
 
Added presser quotes in OP. Mickey impressed with the batting, not with the other facets though.
 
This guys clutching at straws his job is hanging by a thread- trying to fool the public so what if you scored 300 odd even ire afgh bang would have comfortably got 320 on those road pitches.

Main objective was to restrict eng between 280-310 in which pak failed miserably at!
 
DOes he seriously believe all the batsmen dramatically improved their batting standard in a single series? I mean even the tailenders of Pakistan looked really good? Does that also mean bowling standard significantly went for a toss? He is trying to stay positive i understand. Scotland scored 365 runs against England.
 
Abid isn’t going anywhere because he is the only reserve wicket-keeper in the squad.

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Imam ul Haq
3) Abid Ali
4) Haris Sohail
5) Babar Azam
6) Sarfraz Ahmad
7) Muhammad Hafeez
8) Asif Ali
9) Shadab Khan
10) Muhammad Amir
11) Shaheen Shah Afridi
12) Hasan Ali
13) Muhammad Hasnain
14) Shoaib Malik
15) Usman Khan Shinwari

Have a feeling they will drop Junaid and Faheem Ashraf.
 
Abid isn’t going anywhere because he is the only reserve wicket-keeper in the squad.

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Imam ul Haq
3) Abid Ali
4) Haris Sohail
5) Babar Azam
6) Sarfraz Ahmad
7) Muhammad Hafeez
8) Asif Ali
9) Shadab Khan
10) Muhammad Amir
11) Shaheen Shah Afridi
12) Hasan Ali
13) Muhammad Hasnain
14) Shoaib Malik
15) Usman Khan Shinwari

Have a feeling they will drop Junaid and Faheem Ashraf.

Lmao you really think Imad's gonna be dropped eh
 
True, batting has improved a lot but shocking to see a Pak line up without a single world class bowler.
 
Need good bowlers. Batting is okay, Sarfaraz at 4 and Hafeez at 6 will work well. Fielding is fixable as it depends on luck as well.
 
From my experience of watching pakistan cricket for decades, i dont believe they are going to make any major changes by calling up anyone new from pakistan. They have selected 15 playets for the wc and in addition amir and asif. It will be only these players getting selected no one else i.e. no wahsb, no shinwari, no umar akmal, no umer khan, no haris rauf etc.
I think junaid and abid sli will get dropped for amir and asif ali.
 
DOes he seriously believe all the batsmen dramatically improved their batting standard in a single series? I mean even the tailenders of Pakistan looked really good? Does that also mean bowling standard significantly went for a toss? He is trying to stay positive i understand. Scotland scored 365 runs against England.

Maybe for you it was just this series, but fact is that batting has shown improvement even before this series.Someone like Rizwan with two tons against Aus couldn't even get a spot.Our batters are still not comparable to that of Eng,Aus,Nz and ind, but they are much much better than what we had in past.
 
Maybe for you it was just this series, but fact is that batting has shown improvement even before this series.Someone like Rizwan with two tons against Aus couldn't even get a spot.Our batters are still not comparable to that of Eng,Aus,Nz and ind, but they are much much better than what we had in past.
Pitches have been flat this series and that makes them ideal for batting and playing your shots. UAE pitches are low and slow. Not ideal for shot making , so your batting wont improve. Batsman trust these type of pitches and will play their shots and will bcome better players for it. So yes i think the batsman have improved. Scoring 340+ runs is no easy fete!
 
Pitches have been flat this series and that makes them ideal for batting and playing your shots. UAE pitches are low and slow. Not ideal for shot making , so your batting wont improve. Batsman trust these type of pitches and will play their shots and will bcome better players for it. So yes i think the batsman have improved. Scoring 340+ runs is no easy fete!

Flat or no flat, i'm comparing the current batters with what we used to have. Fakhar/Imam are way better than Shahzad/jamsed. Likewise Babar,Harris,Hafeez,Asif are much better than Younis,Misbah,Akmal,Maqsood.I know that the batters of misbah 11 would have been scoring 260-275 on these types of wkts.
 
Flat or no flat, i'm comparing the current batters with what we used to have. Fakhar/Imam are way better than Shahzad/jamsed. Likewise Babar,Harris,Hafeez,Asif are much better than Younis,Misbah,Akmal,Maqsood.I know that the batters of misbah 11 would have been scoring 260-275 on these types of wkts.
I completely agree with you!
Fakhar, imam, babar and haris are arguably the strongesr top 4 we have ever had in odis.
 
you can't gain much athleticism once you are an adult. Anything you do gain is only slight and based on your determination, not your body's ability. If you are a child however, playing multiple athletic sports at a young age helps to grow your body into an agile, flexible and powerful machine. Pakistani's do not have this in their culture.

Trying to compete in fielding (athletic based activity) against the likes of Aus, NZ, SA, ENG is useless as these countries cultures are built around athletic sports, e.g Rugby, AFL, Swimming.
 
you can't gain much athleticism once you are an adult. Anything you do gain is only slight and based on your determination, not your body's ability. If you are a child however, playing multiple athletic sports at a young age helps to grow your body into an agile, flexible and powerful machine. Pakistani's do not have this in their culture.

Trying to compete in fielding (athletic based activity) against the likes of Aus, NZ, SA, ENG is useless as these countries cultures are built around athletic sports, e.g Rugby, AFL, Swimming.
True it helps alot if you play sports as a kid with athletism. But these guys are still young in their 20s and if you get a professional trainer and if they are committed, you will see huge improvements in their fitness.
 
True it helps alot if you play sports as a kid with athletism. But these guys are still young in their 20s and if you get a professional trainer and if they are committed, you will see huge improvements in their fitness.

Sadly I think it is too little too late in your 20s. Which is why so many countries focus on children in sports.

Your body drastically slows down in development by the time your 18.
 
Sadly I think it is too little too late in your 20s. Which is why so many countries focus on children in sports.

Your body drastically slows down in development by the time your 18.
I agree with you that its better for fitness if you start early but you can still make substantial fittness gains in your early 20s with the right training and diet. Any improvement will help our players. They may not get to SENA type players level but they will be better than what they are now. One example to inspire would be imran khan who started his career in the 70s looking like a typical non athletic player and transform himslf to an awesome athlete by hard work.
 
I agree with you that its better for fitness if you start early but you can still make substantial fittness gains in your early 20s with the right training and diet. Any improvement will help our players. They may not get to SENA type players level but they will be better than what they are now. One example to inspire would be imran khan who started his career in the 70s looking like a typical non athletic player and transform himslf to an awesome athlete by hard work.

I doubt they were great athletes (when considering fielding) back in the 70s tbh but I get your point.
 
I doubt they were great athletes (when considering fielding) back in the 70s tbh but I get your point.
Check out the great WI team of the 70s!
Better athletes than most of the players now. As for fielding watch king vivs fieling prowess in th wc in i think 79 , the man mov
 
I doubt they were great athletes (when considering fielding) back in the 70s tbh but I get your point.
Check out the great WI team of the 70s!
Better athletes than most of the players now. As for fielding watch a young king vivs fielding prowess in th wc in i think 79 , the man moved like a cheetah, extremely quick and agile. Made i think 4 run outs in 1 game if i remember correctly.
 
Our coaching and management has gone to “another level” too😅😅. Please Mickey enough of these sugarcoated statements, loss after lose and this guy Keep coming up with excuses, he should join politics will be very successful.

#ByeMickey
 
Our coaching and management has gone to “another level” too����. Please Mickey enough of these sugarcoated statements, loss after lose and this guy Keep coming up with excuses, he should join politics will be very successful.

#ByeMickey

What part of it was sugarcoated? The batting was good, bowling was poor and fielding awful. He said as much.
 
PAK has played some good cricket (ODI) in last few months, but somehow it’s not clicking together, hence the W/L record is such. The day batting works, bowlers letting loose or other way and the day both work somehow fielders spoiling it.

In a positive note, it suggests that the team has lot more potential than 9-21 against WC opponents since CT, but concerning that these laps are chronic, often becomes a habit that you start to accept as your destiny.

Now that the XV is finalised, some nerves should be settled now and Arthur needs to motivate team to believe in themselves. I feel confidence of PAK players are probably at all time low now and they are playing with a defeated mentality. There will be many close games in WC and PAK must siege the opportunity and win 50-50 situations lot more than now.
 
No questions about Haris . . I am very curious to know what they make of Haris and his spot at 4 . .

Sarfaraz said prior to leaving Pakistan that Hafeez will bat 4 . . I wonder if they maintain that . .

Hafeez when he comes in after 25 overs vs. Hafeez who comes in teh first 20 overs are two very different batsman and productivity is greatly compromised . . if us fans can see that, why can't they?

Similarly, Sarfaraz's productivity when he comes in, in the first 30 overs vs. when he comes in, in the lsat 20 is there for everyone to be seen . .

these are things that dynamism, data driven approach should be able to show and should be a no brainer . . Everything in todays sport is driven by data (like other industries) as well . .

(btw, the above is also a reason I think no Pakistani coach should become head coach because I see no one as qualified to coach in the age of computers, data, information driven decision making and strategy formation, etc. . . anyway, thats not a discussion for now) . .

Hence, if Haris bats at 4 and Hafeez at 6 with Sarfaraz at 5 . . that would give the best possible output for Pakistan where they would be making full use of resources at their disposal
 
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He always stay positive . which i like about him the most
 
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