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A Black man was hospitalized in serious condition after police shot him several times in the back as he opened the door of a parked vehicle in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Graphic video of the shooting emerged on social media late Sunday, sparking angry protests that prompted the city to declare an emergency curfew.

The man was later identified as Jacob Blake, 29, according to Governor Tony Evers, who said Blake was "shot in the back multiple times, in broad daylight."

"While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country," Evers said in a statement.


Police in Wisconsin shoot Black man in back multiple times, sparking protests

By Jordan Freiman, Justin Carissimo

Updated on: August 24, 2020 / 11:09 AM / CBS News

A Black man was hospitalized in serious condition after police shot him several times in the back as he opened the door of a parked vehicle in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Graphic video of the shooting emerged on social media late Sunday, sparking angry protests that prompted the city to declare an emergency curfew.

The man was later identified as Jacob Blake, 29, according to Governor Tony Evers, who said Blake was "shot in the back multiple times, in broad daylight."

"While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country," Evers said in a statement.
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The shooting, which is now under investigation by the Wisconsin Department of Justice, occurred around 5 p.m. Sunday when officers responded to calls of a domestic incident. Video shows Blake walking away from officers who are pointing their weapons at him. He approaches an SUV, opens the driver's side door when an officer grabs his shirt, and then fires at least seven shots into Blake's back.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenosh...hoot-jacob-blake-black-man-protesters-gather/

This is worse than Floyd imo, cold blooded murder in front of others in broad daylight.

2nd Wave of protests or will this not get the same attention?
 
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Wow!

This is not good. I hope no more protest. Last protests have devastated many small businesses.
 
Lets wait for the full details.

Hundreds of black people get shot everyday by their fellow brothers. Yet we see no protests. But if law enforcement does that, the whole country burns.
 
Lets wait for the full details.

Hundreds of black people get shot everyday by their fellow brothers. Yet we see no protests. But if law enforcement does that, the whole country burns.

A black person shot a small child in the head point blank in front of other children for riding his bike on the shooters lawn in broad daylight. Nothing.
 
Lets wait for the full details.

Hundreds of black people get shot everyday by their fellow brothers. Yet we see no protests. But if law enforcement does that, the whole country burns.

There is a video available.

There can be no context to this, the chap was stopping a fight between two women. Police arrived, the victim went to his car and was shot multiple times without any danger to the racist cops, no gun and no weapon was found.
 
Jacob Blake hasn't died, he is in intensive care.

I'd be shocked if he survives, no man can survive so many shots at such a close range.

BLM movement is political propaganda and also to cause race issues, divide but this shooting is something out of a Nazi type movie.
 
A black person shot a small child in the head point blank in front of other children for riding his bike on the shooters lawn in broad daylight. Nothing.

Are you happy black people are being murdered by police in the US? You think they deserve this?
 
What drugs are you taking, why would I be happy anyone is killed.

Not what you take.

Thanks for the clarification. It was a question due to your history of supporting Israeli terrorism and you not condeming this shooting but instead attacking some black person who shot a baby, which has swee fa to do with this thread.
 
There is a video available.

There can be no context to this, the chap was stopping a fight between two women. Police arrived, the victim went to his car and was shot multiple times without any danger to the racist cops, no gun and no weapon was found.

Was there a warrant for this person and was he resisting arrest when shot in the video?.
 
A black person shot a small child in the head point blank in front of other children for riding his bike on the shooters lawn in broad daylight. Nothing.

That was a horrible crime but the shooter was arrested and charged pretty much immediately . What did you want people to protest about?
 
Lets wait for the full details.

Hundreds of black people get shot everyday by their fellow brothers. Yet we see no protests. But if law enforcement does that, the whole country burns.

Most of that is due to gang violence and obviously that needs to stop and is a massive problem. However are you shocked that people hold cops to higher standards then gangsters?
 
Most of that is due to gang violence and obviously that needs to stop and is a massive problem. However are you shocked that people hold cops to higher standards then gangsters?

What a racist thing to say, blacks are no more likely to be involved in gang violence than any other minority.
 
Was there a warrant for this person and was he resisting arrest when shot in the video?.

The victim arrived to break up a girl fight. He was unarmed , not wanted but his crime was he was black.

Have you watched the video?

Why are you finding it hard to condemn such a brutal cop shooting?
 
thats just crazy, what training sets you up to shoot a dude getting into a car multiple times in the back, makes no sense. literally no value to anyones life.
 
Antifa and BLM must be licking their lips.

Antifa is a violent group. They are anarchists.

BLM is fine but they should stop unreasonable demands like "defund the police".

Cops need more training. They also need more armors so that they don't pull triggers out of fear.
 
From your link

I was wrong about that and edited my post shortly after. If CNN reported it late for political reasons then that’s wrong. But still don’t see how it links to the BLM protest.

The major reason for those protests was the fact the killers weren’t even charged. In the case you were talking about , the killer was charged shortly after. Not sure what the protest would be for.
 
The victim arrived to break up a girl fight. He was unarmed , not wanted but his crime was he was black.

Have you watched the video?

Why are you finding it hard to condemn such a brutal cop shooting?


I read some obviously fake news that he had a warrant out for his arrest for sexual offences and drawing a weapon on someone.

So he did not resist arrest and the police just walked up and shot him, once again I read some fake news that said he was resisting arrest.

Thats why I dont just condemn without getting all the facts, if I didnt get the facts from you I would have thought he was resisting arrest and had a warrant out for sexual and firearm offences but now you have explained that he didnt have a warrant and the police just shot him without any reason they should be jailed for life,.
 
Very tragic indeed and police has to be held accountable.

On the other hand, some common sense seems to lack here on behalf of the victim. Or was it just arrogance?

When police points it's weapons towards you and orders you to stop or raise your hands, YOU DO THAT!
It's called cooperation with the law enforcement. You follow the order and VERBALLY communicate your position if there is a need. THIS IS THE WAY TO GO!

Instead, he ignores all warnings, walks up to his vehicle, opens the door and seems to be reaching out for something in the car. Not a very smart idea, my friend.

Police by training, will take it as if he was reaching out for a weapon in the car. There is no stopping here for police.
 
I read some obviously fake news that he had a warrant out for his arrest for sexual offences and drawing a weapon on someone.

So he did not resist arrest and the police just walked up and shot him, once again I read some fake news that said he was resisting arrest.

Thats why I dont just condemn without getting all the facts, if I didnt get the facts from you I would have thought he was resisting arrest and had a warrant out for sexual and firearm offences but now you have explained that he didnt have a warrant and the police just shot him without any reason they should be jailed for life,.

Stop reading Donald Trump or his racist sons twitter. Stay away from the right wing and you might learn something.

Very tragic indeed and police has to be held accountable.

On the other hand, some common sense seems to lack here on behalf of the victim. Or was it just arrogance?

When police points it's weapons towards you and orders you to stop or raise your hands, YOU DO THAT!
It's called cooperation with the law enforcement. You follow the order and VERBALLY communicate your position if there is a need. THIS IS THE WAY TO GO!

Instead, he ignores all warnings, walks up to his vehicle, opens the door and seems to be reaching out for something in the car. Not a very smart idea, my friend.

Police by training, will take it as if he was reaching out for a weapon in the car. There is no stopping here for police.

There was no weapon.

Black people are scared to be taken away by racist white cops. I'll give you one guess as to why?
 
There was no weapon.

If you were a trained cop in the dangerous streets putting your life online for $60,000 a year, you wouldn't think like this.
See the issue here?

Black people are scared to be taken away by racist white cops. I'll give you one guess as to why?

Perhaps a more provoking thought is,

"Are some of these blacks really that stupid to put themselves in danger after all that has happened?"
 
If you were a trained cop in the dangerous streets putting your life online for $60,000 a year, you wouldn't think like this.
See the issue here?



Perhaps a more provoking thought is,

"Are some of these blacks really that stupid to put themselves in danger after all that has happened?"

You are just guessing and being an apologist for this brutal shooting.

Police can only use deadly force if they are sure a deadly weapon is being prepared to be used against them or if they feel their lives are in danger. No weapon was ever seen, no cop was ever in any danger. Yet they shot a man 7 times in the BACK. Try using some common sense, they shot him from behind, thats how much of a danger he was.

Upto 500 blacks were murdered while in custody. These are just official numbers, the actual numbers will be much much higher. You cant blame them for not wanting to be taken away from these racist scm cops.

If you're going to debate on here and defend something please make it worth my while.
 
If they kept physically fit cops they should have subdued him without shooting him.

I got pulled over in NYC by a 4'8" woman cop once. Seriously NYPD ?
 
You are just guessing and being an apologist for this brutal shooting.

Police can only use deadly force if they are sure a deadly weapon is being prepared to be used against them or if they feel their lives are in danger. No weapon was ever seen, no cop was ever in any danger. Yet they shot a man 7 times in the BACK. Try using some common sense, they shot him from behind, thats how much of a danger he was.

Upto 500 blacks were murdered while in custody. These are just official numbers, the actual numbers will be much much higher. You cant blame them for not wanting to be taken away from these racist scm cops.

If you're going to debate on here and defend something please make it worth my while.

Nope.
Read my first post again. It's post # 25.
The very first sentence, if you understand basic English, should yield it to you that I held police accountable for this tragic act.

So no, it's not an apologetic excuse.

My opinion addressed both sides of the coin. (Hint: Read post # 25)

And no, police does not get trained as per YOUR understanding and as per YOUR knowledge on how things should work.

Police does *NOT* wait to actually *SEE* a weapon in the hands of a suspect. Reaching your hands to your pockets, when police is pointing a gun at you, is signing your death certificate.

Perhaps you live in another country and judging the norms for your country with how police encounter works in United States?

If yes, here is a friendly suggestion if you ever visit the U.S., and find yourself, police pointing a gun at you. FOLLOW AS YOU ARE TOLD by the cops. It's a wise thing to do.
 
Nope.
Read my first post again. It's post # 25.
The very first sentence, if you understand basic English, should yield to you that I held police accountable for this tragic act.

So no, it's not an apologetic excuse.

My opinion addressed both sides of the coin. (Hint: Read post # 25)

And no, police does not get trained as per YOUR understanding and as per YOUR knowledge on how things should work.

Police does *NOT* wait to actually *SEE* a weapon in the hands of a suspect. Reaching your hands to your pockets, when police is pointing a gun at you, is signing your death certificate.

Perhaps you live in another country and judging the norms for your country with how police encounter works in United States?

If yes, here is a friendly suggestion if you ever visit the U.S., and find yourself, police pointing a gun at you. FOLLOW AS YOU ARE TOLD by the cops. It's a wise thing to do.
I do realise Yanks are trigger happy. It's in their culture, which is why they have bombed, invaded and murdered millions in the last few decades. Not to mention the bloody history of America. If one nationality was the most violent in modern history, it would be the Yanks.

I have no desire to visit the US unless it's for sport. So why dont you copy and paste the exact official guidance and training the cops recieve when it comes to using a deadly weapon on a suspect?
 
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If they kept physically fit cops they should have subdued him without shooting him.

I got pulled over in NYC by a 4'8" woman cop once. Seriously NYPD ?

This is a good point. Every nation has strange looking cops but America has some real midgets and fat coppers who wouldnt pass a fitness test at primary school.
 
Do you think it will be a good idea to use something like laughing gas against resisters? Better than using gun.
 
I do realise Yanks are trigger happy. It's in their culture, which is why they have bombed, invaded and murdered millions in the last few decades. Not to mention the bloody history of America. If one nationality was the most violent in modern history, it would be the Yanks.

I have no desire to visit the US unless it's for sport. So why dont you copy and paste the exact official guidance and training the cops recieve when it comes to using a deadly weapon on a suspect?
The question then is, what is the reason?

You may think, it's primarily because of race.

I; however, opine that it's the numbers that create stereotyping and injustice against blacks.

Lets quickly look at numbers.

13% of total black population is responsible for about 80% of crimes in USA
50% of homicides in the USA are committed by blacks.
Since 1930, there have been 19,300 rapes of white women by black men in United States. Guess how many cases of a white man raping a black woman been reported for the same time period? ZERO!

And for all those blacks who are rioting, looting and burning the public property? Don't even start me on writing some numbers that expose the black on black crime rate in USA.


The fact is, human brain works in certain ways, and numbers don't lie.
When we see these numbers, automatically, and rightly so, human brain associates high crime with a certain race.

Whether it's right or wrong, is not the question here.

The question is, it's a game of probabilities when you are out there as a policeman working in these crime ridden and drug rampant streets.
You make the judgement call base on your training and that typical function of human brain where numbers push us to associate crime with race.
One split of a second delay or wrong judgement will either end your life or someone else's life. Unfortunately, this is now it is in the streets.

Does this mean, ALL blacks are criminals? NO! Absolutely NOT!

There are many, many peaceful, hard working and tax paying black citizens; however, the large number of criminal population in blacks simply over shadows the good black citizens.

I am friends with many, and have a great work colleague who is black. I have had black team members who report to me, and never for once I had a problem with any.

Does that mean, all white men are angles? Absolutely not.
The pedophilia and drugs seems common in white race. Whites are also high on other crimes.

The question is; what to do about this current chaos?

I think it's not black lives matter. It's INNOCENT life matters regardless of the race.

So far as issues with black races go,

In my opinion, together with better police training (which is an absolute must), black race MUST help it's own self if they really want to fix it. No one is going to come from outside and help them.
 
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There have been clashes for a second night in Wisconsin, with buildings and cars set alight, following the police shooting of a black man on Sunday.

Jacob Blake, 29, is reportedly in a stable condition after he was shot several times as he went to a car and opened its door in the city of Kenosha.

Governor Tony Evers has called up the National Guard to aid local police.

The killing of black man George Floyd in Minnesota in May led to protests against racism and police brutality.

Demonstrations across the US and in many cities internationally put a spotlight on the treatment of African-Americans by US law enforcement and prompted a wider reflection on racism in society.

A curfew has been in effect in Kenosha from 20:00 local time (01:00 GMT) and will last until 07:00 on Tuesday but has been defied by some protesters.

In a press release, Governor Evers said the "limited mobilisation" of the National Guard - made at the request of local officials - was to help law enforcement "protect critical infrastructure" and make sure people could demonstrate safely.

"Every person should be able to express their anger and frustration by exercising their First Amendment rights and report on these calls to action without any fear of being unsafe," he said.

What's the latest from Kenosha?
Hundreds of protesters began a march at about 19:00 local time on Monday evening. It was largely peaceful, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported, but tear gas was fired after water bottles were thrown at police.

After the protests past the curfew they turned more violent, with fireworks thrown and police responding with smoke bombs and flash-bang grenades.

By 23:00 several structures - including a Department of Corrections building - were on fire, along with a number of cars, the Sentinel said, with one reporter witnessing looting.

Reports suggest up to 200 members of the National Guard have been deployed.

Earlier in the day some protesters tried to force their way into Kenosha's public safety building, demanding that the officers involved in the shooting be arrested. A door was broken off its hinges before officers in riot gear used pepper spray to disperse the crowd.

Hundreds of people had marched on police headquarters on Sunday night to demonstrate against the shooting.

Governor Evers has said there will be a special session of the state legislature on 31 August to discuss a package of laws announced earlier this year on accountability and transparency of the police.

Mr Evers announced the legislation in the wake of the police killing of Mr Floyd.

Lawmakers had "failed to act" in the two months since he announced the "commonsense policies", the governor tweeted.

What do we know about the shooting?
Kenosha Police Department said the "officer involved shooting" happened shortly after 17:00 on Sunday. It added that officers had provided "immediate aid" to Mr Blake, who was taken to a hospital in Milwaukee in serious condition.

In video footage taken from across the street and shared on social media, three officers can be seen pointing their weapons at a man identified as Mr Blake as he walks around a parked SUV.

As he opens the door and leans into the car, one officer can be seen grabbing his shirt and opening fire. Seven shots can be heard in the video, as witnesses shout and scream.

The police said officers had been responding to a "domestic incident" but gave no details about what led to the shooting. It is so far unclear who called police and what happened before the video recording began.

Police in Kenosha do not have body cameras, although they do have microphones.

Civil rights lawyer Ben Crump, who represents the families of George Floyd and others pursuing actions against the police, has announced he is representing Mr Blake's family.

In a statement released on Twitter he said the 29-year-old father "was helping to de-escalate a domestic incident" at the time.

Mr Crump said the officers' "irresponsible, reckless and inhumane actions nearly cost the life of a man who was simply trying to do the right thing".

Mr Blake, who works as a security guard, is now out of surgery and improving.

Wisconsin's Department of Justice is investigating the incident in Kenosha, a city of about 100,000 on the south-western shore of Lake Michigan.

The officers involved have been placed on administrative leave and a petition calling for them to be charged has garnered tens of thousands of signatures.

The Kenosha County district attorney said his office would work as quickly as possible but "these kinds of huge decisions... are not decisions that can be made in haste".

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Monday released a statement calling for a "full and transparent investigation" of the shooting.

Governor Evers also condemned the shooting, saying Mr Blake was "not the first black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country."

But the Democratic governor has faced criticism for this response.

Pete Deates, head of Kenosha's police union, said Mr Evers' statement was "wholly irresponsible" and said people should wait until all facts were known.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53897641
 
The question then is, what is the reason?

You may think, it's primarily because of race.

I; however, opine that it's the numbers that create stereotyping and injustice against blacks.

Lets quickly look at numbers.

13% of total black population is responsible for about 80% of crimes in USA
50% of homicides in the USA are committed by blacks.
Since 1930, there have been 19,300 rapes of white women by black men in United States. Guess how many cases of a white man raping a black woman been reported for the same time period? ZERO!

And for all those blacks who are rioting, looting and burning the public property? Don't even start me on writing some numbers that expose the black on black crime rate in USA.


The fact is, human brain works in certain ways, and numbers don't lie.
When we see these numbers, automatically, and rightly so, human brain associates high crime with a certain race.

Whether it's right or wrong, is not the question here.

The question is, it's a game of probabilities when you are out there as a policeman working in these crime ridden and drug rampant streets.
You make the judgement call base on your training and that typical function of human brain where numbers push us to associate crime with race.
One split of a second delay or wrong judgement will either end your life or someone else's life. Unfortunately, this is now it is in the streets.

Does this mean, ALL blacks are criminals? NO! Absolutely NOT!

There are many, many peaceful, hard working and tax paying black citizens; however, the large number of criminal population in blacks simply over shadows the good black citizens.

I am friends with many, and have a great work colleague who is black. I have had black team members who report to me, and never for once I had a problem with any.

Does that mean, all white men are angles? Absolutely not.
The pedophilia and drugs seems common in white race. Whites are also high on other crimes.

The question is; what to do about this current chaos?

I think it's not black lives matter. It's INNOCENT life matters regardless of the race.

So far as issues with black races go,

In my opinion, together with better police training (which is an absolute must), black race MUST help it's own self if they really want to fix it. No one is going to come from outside and help them.

ive read some brainless drivel on PP many a time but this one takes the cake...
 
Lets wait for the full details.

Hundreds of black people get shot everyday by their fellow brothers. Yet we see no protests. But if law enforcement does that, the whole country burns.

Because its the POLICE. Its a state authority that is expected to do their job without differentiating between race. But it is proven that the proportion of Deaths/Encounters with the police is much more likely if you are black vs if you are white.

Also, are you suggesting that the death of Floyd and the shooting of this guy was valid?

As for people commenting on black on black murders. Murder of any kind is a crime, and the murderers need to be (and are) prosecuted. Where as police officers get off scot free or with minor charges. The cops should be held to higher standards than general population.
 
The question then is, what is the reason?

You may think, it's primarily because of race.

I; however, opine that it's the numbers that create stereotyping and injustice against blacks.

Lets quickly look at numbers.

13% of total black population is responsible for about 80% of crimes in USA
50% of homicides in the USA are committed by blacks.
Since 1930, there have been 19,300 rapes of white women by black men in United States. Guess how many cases of a white man raping a black woman been reported for the same time period? ZERO!

And for all those blacks who are rioting, looting and burning the public property? Don't even start me on writing some numbers that expose the black on black crime rate in USA.


The fact is, human brain works in certain ways, and numbers don't lie.
When we see these numbers, automatically, and rightly so, human brain associates high crime with a certain race.

Whether it's right or wrong, is not the question here.

The question is, it's a game of probabilities when you are out there as a policeman working in these crime ridden and drug rampant streets.
You make the judgement call base on your training and that typical function of human brain where numbers push us to associate crime with race.
One split of a second delay or wrong judgement will either end your life or someone else's life. Unfortunately, this is now it is in the streets.

Does this mean, ALL blacks are criminals? NO! Absolutely NOT!

There are many, many peaceful, hard working and tax paying black citizens; however, the large number of criminal population in blacks simply over shadows the good black citizens.

I am friends with many, and have a great work colleague who is black. I have had black team members who report to me, and never for once I had a problem with any.

Does that mean, all white men are angles? Absolutely not.
The pedophilia and drugs seems common in white race. Whites are also high on other crimes.

The question is; what to do about this current chaos?

I think it's not black lives matter. It's INNOCENT life matters regardless of the race.

So far as issues with black races go,

In my opinion, together with better police training (which is an absolute must), black race MUST help it's own self if they really want to fix it. No one is going to come from outside and help them.


So you've typed out pages of content to support the police shooting, and then you totally override everything you said by saying they MUST have better training.
 
If you were a trained cop in the dangerous streets putting your life online for $60,000 a year, you wouldn't think like this.
See the issue here?

Perhaps a more provoking thought is,

"Are some of these blacks really that stupid to put themselves in danger after all that has happened?"

They can obey the police and be polite and respectful and get shot dead anyway, like that poor man with his wife and baby in the car.
 
The question then is, what is the reason?

You may think, it's primarily because of race.

I; however, opine that it's the numbers that create stereotyping and injustice against blacks.

Lets quickly look at numbers.

13% of total black population is responsible for about 80% of crimes in USA
50% of homicides in the USA are committed by blacks.
Since 1930, there have been 19,300 rapes of white women by black men in United States. Guess how many cases of a white man raping a black woman been reported for the same time period? ZERO!

And for all those blacks who are rioting, looting and burning the public property? Don't even start me on writing some numbers that expose the black on black crime rate in USA.


The fact is, human brain works in certain ways, and numbers don't lie.
When we see these numbers, automatically, and rightly so, human brain associates high crime with a certain race.

Whether it's right or wrong, is not the question here.

The question is, it's a game of probabilities when you are out there as a policeman working in these crime ridden and drug rampant streets.
You make the judgement call base on your training and that typical function of human brain where numbers push us to associate crime with race.
One split of a second delay or wrong judgement will either end your life or someone else's life. Unfortunately, this is now it is in the streets.

Does this mean, ALL blacks are criminals? NO! Absolutely NOT!

There are many, many peaceful, hard working and tax paying black citizens; however, the large number of criminal population in blacks simply over shadows the good black citizens.

I am friends with many, and have a great work colleague who is black. I have had black team members who report to me, and never for once I had a problem with any.

Does that mean, all white men are angles? Absolutely not.
The pedophilia and drugs seems common in white race. Whites are also high on other crimes.

The question is; what to do about this current chaos?

I think it's not black lives matter. It's INNOCENT life matters regardless of the race.

So far as issues with black races go,

In my opinion, together with better police training (which is an absolute must), black race MUST help it's own self if they really want to fix it. No one is going to come from outside and help them.

Do you have a link for these stats? :inti

I requested you provide me a the training protocol of the police in the US in regards to the use of a deadly weapon. E.g When can they use it to potentially kill the suspect.
 
So you've typed out pages of content to support the police shooting, and then you totally override everything you said by saying they MUST have better training.

Yes, there is a great room of improvement in how police should handle such cases.
One would be, perhaps user taser guns instead of bullets?

But then this could also happen.

 
Do you have a link for these stats? :inti


Such stats should be available on the department of justice and FBI's website. You should look for it and you will find it. I also know that a couple of them have been removed due to current atmosphere; however, if you search for it, you will find it.

Here is an example.
52% of homocides were comittmed by black offenders.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

Read through this PDF and see the stats of black men raping white woman and vice a versa.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus/previous/cvus08.pdf

I requested you provide me a the training protocol of the police in the US in regards to the use of a deadly weapon. E.g When can they use it to potentially kill the suspect.

I am sure you perfectly understand that these training protocols are not available to the public, and I am also sure that you don't have any documented evidence to support your own ideology that police should use firearms ONLY after they SEE a weapon in the suspect's hands.

Well, not sure what world do you live in but this is what happens when we actually deploy your philosophies to the test.

 
They can obey the police and be polite and respectful and get shot dead anyway, like that poor man with his wife and baby in the car.

Which is obviously wrong. And justice should be served regardless of if the person is wearing a police uniform and/or regardless of what the color of the suspect's skin is.

If a few police officers do something wrong then they must be brought under the weight of law. What's so hard to understand here? We have a thousands of great police officers who patrol our streets for our safety. And we should also appreciate those (besides condemning and raising our voice against bad ones).

But what you are making it sound like, as if, ALL police officers are devils and ALL black population is innocent angles in every single encounter?

OK this should be an interesting scenario for you to decipher.

 
Such stats should be available on the department of justice and FBI's website. You should look for it and you will find it. I also know that a couple of them have been removed due to current atmosphere; however, if you search for it, you will find it.

Here is an example.
52% of homocides were comittmed by black offenders.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

Read through this PDF and see the stats of black men raping white woman and vice a versa.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus/previous/cvus08.pdf

Sadly you've lost all credibility in my eyes with a ridicolous stats.

You wrote

"Since 1930, there have been 19,300 rapes of white women by black men in United States. Guess how many cases of a white man raping a black woman been reported for the same time period? ZERO!

"Guess how many cases of a white man raping a black woman been reported for the same time period? ZERO!"

There was no need to guess as this alone is so daft.

I can give you many cases but one will be sufficient, an old case since you mentioned 30's.

Recy Taylor, an African-American woman from Abbeville, Alabama, whose abduction and rape by six white men in 1944 made national headlines, died Thursday morning, her brother Robert Corbitt told NBC News.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/recy-taylor-alabama-woman-raped-six-white-men-dies-97-n833336








I am sure you perfectly understand that these training protocols are not available to the public, and I am also sure that you don't have any documented evidence to support your own ideology that police should use firearms ONLY after they SEE a weapon in the suspect's hands.

Well, not sure what world do you live in but this is what happens when we actually deploy your philosophies to the test.

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In the UK it's public knowledge as the police are serving the public.

Here.

https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/si...esearch-learning/BMRB_use_of_force_report.pdf

Dont worry, I know there is a protocol. Its best you debate with someone else on this.
 
Yes, there is a great room of improvement in how police should handle such cases.
One would be, perhaps user taser guns instead of bullets?

But then this could also happen.


Police are scared to arrest. They never know what the suspect is carrying. When the suspect does not obey the orders and instead resists and tries to reach in their pocket, that is when deadly force is used.

Time for Machines to take over the law and order.
 
Sadly you've lost all credibility in my eyes with a ridicolous stats.

You wrote

"Since 1930, there have been 19,300 rapes of white women by black men in United States. Guess how many cases of a white man raping a black woman been reported for the same time period? ZERO!

"Guess how many cases of a white man raping a black woman been reported for the same time period? ZERO!"

There was no need to guess as this alone is so daft.

I can give you many cases but one will be sufficient, an old case since you mentioned 30's.



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/recy-taylor-alabama-woman-raped-six-white-men-dies-97-n833336








I am sure you perfectly understand that these training protocols are not available to the public, and I am also sure that you don't have any documented evidence to support your own ideology that police should use firearms ONLY after they SEE a weapon in the suspect's hands.

Well, not sure what world do you live in but this is what happens when we actually deploy your philosophies to the test.


In the UK it's public knowledge as the police are serving the public.

Here.

https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/si...esearch-learning/BMRB_use_of_force_report.pdf

Dont worry, I know there is a protocol. Its best you debate with someone else on this.


The PDF data link I provided is not made by myself. It is posted on the us govt's website. Could it have a minor error here and there? YES INDEED!
But if you fail to get the idea, then obviously, I can't help you.


So far as the police protocol goes, you posted one from UK's govt website; and it may say that police should use weapons only when they *SEE* a weapon in the suspect's hands (please read through it and see if actually says what you wish to believe.); however, we are talking about police training in USA, and NOT UK.

Here is one I searched online, go ahead read through it if you like, and you can also send your suggestion to The White House or Department of Justice that police should use weapons only if they see a weapon in the suspects hands in a country where we hardly have any gun control in the streets. You will probably be given some sort of award, who knows?

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/105574.pdf
 
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Do you have a link for these stats? :inti

I requested you provide me a the training protocol of the police in the US in regards to the use of a deadly weapon. E.g When can they use it to potentially kill the suspect.

These are FBI Stats. Staggering to see how many black on black crimes happen. Compared to this less than 10 deaths per year happen due to Police killing black suspects.

Police violence is overblown and the conspiracy to paint USA as some kind of racist hellhole is not backed up by stats.

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https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls
 
The lawyers for the family of a black man shot in the back by police in the US state of Wisconsin say he will need a "miracle" to walk again.

Jacob Blake, 29, was shot several times opening the door of his car in Kenosha.

At least one of the bullets went through his spinal cord, lawyers said.

The shooting of Mr Blake has sparked protests, which at times have turned violent. The governor of Wisconsin is sending more National Guard troops to Kenosha.

As a result of the partial or complete severing of his spinal cord, Mr Blake is paralysed, with doctors unsure if he will recover the use of his legs.

What we know about Jacob Blake's shooting

"His family believe in miracles, but the medical diagnosis right now is that he is paralysed and, because those bullets severed his spinal cord and shattered some of his vertebrae, it is going to take a miracle for Jacob Blake Jr to ever walk again," lawyer Ben Crump told a press conference on Tuesday.

The 29-year-old, shot as his young sons sat in the car, was also left with holes in his stomach, an arm injury and damage to his kidney and liver. Most of his colon and small intestine had to be removed, his lawyers told reporters.

His mother Julia Jackson told the press conference her son had been "fighting for his life", but said if he "knew what was going on as far as that goes, the violence and the destruction, he would be very unpleased".

Buildings and cars have been left damaged following protests over the shooting in the city of about 100,000 on the south-western shore of Lake Michigan.

On Tuesday, Governor Tony Evers said he would send more National Guard troops to Kenosha to protect state buildings and support first responders and firefighters. A state of emergency has also been declared in Wisconsin, as protesters clashed with police for a third night.

Mr Blake's shooting comes as the US grapples with the treatment of African-Americans at the hands of law enforcement, as well as wider questions about racism in society, since the death in police custody in Minneapolis of another black man, George Floyd, in May.

In her speech, Ms Jackson addressed racism directly and called for "healing".

"Do you understand what is going to happen when we fall - because a house that is against each other cannot stand."

What do we know about the shooting?
Police say they were responding to a domestic incident when they went to the site of Sunday's shooting but have given few other details. So far it is unclear who called the police, how many officers were involved, and what happened before the shooting.

Footage of the incident show Mr Blake opening the door and leaning into the car, at which point one officer grabs his shirt and opens fire. Seven shots can be heard in the video, as witnesses shout and scream.

Mr Blake's fiancée Laquisha Booker, said the children - who witnessed everything as they sat in the back of the car - were screaming as their father was shot.

Lawyers for Mr Blake said he had been trying to "de-escalate a domestic incident". Witnesses said the same to local media.

Court records show there was an open arrest warrant against Mr Blake on sexual assault and domestic abuse charges but police have not said if officers were aware of this when they responded to the call on Sunday.

Wisconsin's Department of Justice is investigating the incident in Kenosha, while the officers involved have been placed on administrative leave. A petition calling for them to be charged has garnered tens of thousands of signatures.

Mr Blake's father has said he does not have confidence in the investigation.

"Anybody that is white, that is doing an investigation about a black young man that was shot seven times in his back, and haven't come up with an answer or a comment at this point, is not welcome," he told reporters.

Within hours of Mr Blake's shooting, hundreds of people had marched on Kenosha's police headquarters. Cars were later set alight, and police urged 24-hour businesses to consider closing because of "numerous" calls about armed robberies and shots being fired.

On Monday, Governor Evers called up the National Guard to aid local police and imposed a night-time curfew on Kenosha.

But some ignored the curfew, and police used tear gas to try to force protesters - some of whom were throwing water bottles - to disperse. Police, backed up by the National Guard, also used rubber bullets and smoke bombs, protesters said.

Some demonstrators were seen attacking cars and property with baseball bats, news agency Reuters reported, while others set cars alight.

Hundreds of protesters also marched through the city on Tuesday. A small group of demonstrators threw fireworks and water bottles at police, who responded with rubber bullets and tear gas.

There are also reports of armed men on the streets vowing to defend private property amid the unrest.

Protests have also spread to a number of other cities, including Portland, Oregon and Minneapolis, Minnesota.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53914027
 
Until and unless guns are outlawed the states will continue to be the Wild West.
 
Two people have been killed and one injured during a third night of unrest in the US city of Kenosha, sparked by the police shooting of a black man.

Police said three people had been shot, but gave no details about who was involved.

Local media reports earlier said the violence was believed to have stemmed from a conflict between protesters and armed men guarding a petrol station.

Unrest broke out after Jacob Blake was shot and injured by police on Sunday.

Video footage showed the 29-year-old being shot a number of times as he leaned into a car. His lawyers said it would take "a miracle" for him to walk again.

People have since defied emergency curfews in the city to join protests, which at times have turned violent.

What we know about Jacob Blake's shooting
In their statement, Kenosha Police said officials responded to "reports of shots being fired and multiple gunshot victims" in the city at about 23:45 on Tuesday (04:45 Wednesday GMT).

"The shooting resulted in two fatalities and a third gunshot victim was transported to a hospital with serious, but non-life threatening injuries," the statement said.

It added that the identities of the victims were still being determined and that no further details would be given at this time. An investigation has been opened.

Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth earlier told the New York Times that an investigation into the shootings would be focused on a group of men armed with guns outside a petrol station.

Footage shared online showed a man with a rifle being chased by a crowd before he fell to the ground and appeared to fire multiple rounds at them. Other video shows armed civilians, many dressed in military fatigues, congregating outside businesses they said they were protecting.

Footage also shows people running through the streets as gunshots ring out, and wounded men on the ground.

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers said on Tuesday he was sending more National Guard troops to the city amid the unrest.

Within hours of Mr Blake's shooting on Sunday, hundreds of people had marched on Kenosha's police headquarters. Cars were later set alight, and police urged 24-hour businesses to consider closing because of "numerous" calls about armed robberies and shots being fired. A night-time curfew was imposed.

On Monday, Governor Evers called up the National Guard to help local police. The forces used tear gas, rubber bullets and smoke bombs, protesters said. Some demonstrators were seen attacking cars and property with baseball bats, Reuters reported.

On Tuesday, hundreds of protesters marched through the city. A small group threw fireworks and water bottles at police, who responded with rubber bullets and tear gas.

In a message posted on Twitter, police urged people in Kenosha, a city of about 100,000 on the south-western shore of Lake Michigan, to "stay off the streets".

Buildings and cars have been burned.

A state of emergency has also been declared in Wisconsin.

Protests have also spread to a number of other cities, including Portland, Oregon and in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where the police killing of unarmed black man George Floyd in May sparked Black Lives Matter protests across the US and globally.

What's the latest with Jacob Blake?
Lawyer Ben Crump told a press conference on Tuesday that doctors said Mr Blake had been paralysed by the shooting.

"His family believe in miracles, but the medical diagnosis right now is that he is paralysed and, because those bullets severed his spinal cord and shattered some of his vertebrae, it is going to take a miracle for Jacob Blake Jr to ever walk again," he said.

The 29-year-old, shot as his young sons sat in the car, was also left with holes in his stomach, an arm injury and damage to his kidney and liver. Most of his colon and small intestine had to be removed, his lawyers told reporters.

His mother Julia Jackson told the press conference her son had been "fighting for his life", but said if he "knew what was going on as far as that goes, the violence and the destruction, he would be very unpleased".

Mr Blake's shooting comes as the US grapples with the treatment of African-Americans at the hands of law enforcement, as well as wider questions about racism in society, since the death of George Floyd.

In her speech, Ms Jackson addressed racism directly and called for "healing".

"Do you understand what is going to happen when we fall - because a house that is against each other cannot stand."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53917170
 
When the looney left describe cops as state sanctioned killers, you got to wonder who is wearing the tin-foil hat.

Between Lloyd and Blake, there have been additional killings by the US cops, but the news didn't make it to mainstream media because there was no video. You now have Blake's shooting, trial by media based on the second half of the video.

Most of you are getting played, when the reality is something else.
 
These are FBI Stats. Staggering to see how many black on black crimes happen. Compared to this less than 10 deaths per year happen due to Police killing black suspects.

Police violence is overblown and the conspiracy to paint USA as some kind of racist hellhole is not backed up by stats.



https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

You're confusing gangland warfare with civil security forces. You want to compare the rate police officers kill with gangsters? This itself shows you have little faith in the police being civilised and proffesional.
 
Jacob Blake: Trump to send federal officers to Wisconsin protests

President Donald Trump says federal law enforcement will be sent to Kenosha, Wisconsin, following unrest sparked by the police shooting of a black man.

Jacob Blake, 29, was shot and injured by police on Sunday as he leaned into his car as his children watched.

Protests have been ongoing for several nights, and on Tuesday, two people were shot dead and another was injured. A teenager has been charged with murder.

Mr Blake is recovering in hospital and is conscious, his family say.

But his lawyers say it will take "a miracle" for him to walk again.

Announcing his move in a tweet on Wednesday, Mr Trump said: "We will NOT stand for looting, arson, violence, and lawlessness on American streets. My team just got off the phone with Governor Evers who agreed to accept federal assistance (Portland should do the same!)."

Shortly following Mr Trump's tweet, Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers said he had authorised 500 National Guard troops to support law enforcement efforts.

Earlier, police in neighbouring Illinois said they arrested a 17-year-old on suspicion of first-degree murder.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53926277
 
When the looney left describe cops as state sanctioned killers, you got to wonder who is wearing the tin-foil hat.

Between Lloyd and Blake, there have been additional killings by the US cops, but the news didn't make it to mainstream media because there was no video. You now have Blake's shooting, trial by media based on the second half of the video.

Most of you are getting played, when the reality is something else.

Its clearly obvious this race issue is political but this doesn't take away a man being shot 7 times at point blank in his back.

Its a fair generalisation US cops are trigger happy, this is nothing new but on going for decades.

Trump or Biden are no different in reality, both hype up incidents for their own personal agendas.

US is on a path to a race war when the good ol times are over, which will be when the dollar is pretty much dead and buried, leading to mass social issues.
 
BREAKING: Teenager charged with homicide after two shot dead at Jacob Blake protests

A 17-year-old has been charged with homicide after two people were shot dead during a protest over the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Wisconsin.

Kyle Rittenhouse, from Antioch, Illinois, around 15 miles from Kenosha, where Mr Blake and the victims were shot, is described as a "police admirer".

He was arrested in Illinois on suspicion of first degree intentional homicide on Wednesday.

Two people were killed in Kenosha on Tuesday night after a young white man who was caught on mobile phone video, opened fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle.

The identities of the victims have not yet been released, but they were a 26-year-old from Silver Lake and 36-year-old from Kenosha, NBC said, adding that a 26-year-old from West Allis was injured and is expected to survive.

One fatal victim was shot in the head and the other in the chest, Sheriff David Beth told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Video broadcast on The Rundown Live showed a man believed to be the suspect carrying a weapon while acting as part of a militia which was protecting, its members said, a car dealership.

At one point in the video, someone can be heard, but not seen, saying, "I'm Kyle".

Witness accounts and video show the gunman first shot someone at a car dealership, then jogged away, stumbled and fell in the street, and opened fire again as members of the crowd closed in on him.

"I just killed somebody," the gunman could be heard saying at one point during the shooting rampage that erupted just before midnight.

Witness Julio Rosas, said that two people jumped on the shooter when he stumbled and, as they struggled, the man began firing indiscriminately.

The rifle, Mr Rosas said, "was being jerked around in all directions".

According to witness accounts and video footage, police apparently let the young man responsible for the shootings walk past them with a rifle over his shoulder as members of the crowd were yelling for him to be arrested because he had shot people.

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers responded to the killings by drafting 500 members of the National Guard into the Kenosha area to support local law enforcement, doubling the number of troops sent in.

The governor's office said he was working with other states to bring in additional National Guard troops and law officers.

Mr Blake, a black man who was shot seven times in the back by police on Sunday, is recovering in hospital and is conscious, his family has said.

But he is paralysed from the waist down and his lawyers said it will take "a miracle" for him to walk again.

Mr Blake's mother, Julia Jackson, said her son would be "very unpleased" if he could see the violence that had befallen the city since he was shot.

She added: "I'm really asking and encouraging everyone in Wisconsin and abroad to take a moment and examine your heart - citizens, police officers, firemen, clergy, politicians - do Jacob justice on this level and examine your heart.

Mr Evers said in a statement released before charges were announced: "I want to be very clear: we should not tolerate violence against any person.

"I'm grateful there has already been swift action to arrest one person involved. The individual or individuals whose actions resulted in this tragic loss of life must be held accountable.

"A senseless tragedy like this cannot happen again. I again ask those who choose to exercise their First Amendment rights please do so peacefully and safely, as so many did last night.

"We must turn from violence and remember that any single act of injustice against one person is less justice for us all.

"We cannot let the hateful actions of a few designed to create chaos distract us from our pursuit for a more fair, equitable, and accountable state and country for Jacob Blake and the many others who deserve justice."

Kenosha is the latest focus of fury in the US during a summer of racial unrest, sparked initially by the death of George Floyd while being arrested in Minneapolis.

https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-bl...-dead-in-unrest-over-police-shooting-12057307
 
You're confusing gangland warfare with civil security forces. You want to compare the rate police officers kill with gangsters? This itself shows you have little faith in the police being civilised and proffesional.

The link I posted shows which race perpetrates how much violence. They are not gangsters. Your regular civilians doing crazy crimes and homicides.

You seem to have a very low opinion on USA cops. Most of them are very professional and will help as much as they can. The problem arises when the suspect starts to disobey their orders and puts hands in their pockets.
 
The link I posted shows which race perpetrates how much violence. They are not gangsters. Your regular civilians doing crazy crimes and homicides.

You seem to have a very low opinion on USA cops. Most of them are very professional and will help as much as they can. The problem arises when the suspect starts to disobey their orders and puts hands in their pockets.

Regular civillians doing crime? lol. Regular people dont commit crime esp murder. These are almost all related to some time of criminal activity or have been carried out by those in gangs. Either way it has no relevance to civil law and order police officers, they are supposed to proffesional. They are trained to protect and to serve. To compare these two is a childish, weak argument. In fact it borderling racist.

There is systematic racism in the US police force, only a fool would deny this. Many might be professional but many are also trigger happy clowns who will kill without any reason, as per this case.

You seem to have a problem with black people with such absurd arguments.
 
Regular civillians doing crime? lol. Regular people dont commit crime esp murder. These are almost all related to some time of criminal activity or have been carried out by those in gangs. Either way it has no relevance to civil law and order police officers, they are supposed to proffesional. They are trained to protect and to serve. To compare these two is a childish, weak argument. In fact it borderling racist.

There is systematic racism in the US police force, only a fool would deny this. Many might be professional but many are also trigger happy clowns who will kill without any reason, as per this case.

You seem to have a problem with black people with such absurd arguments.

Very convenient of you to name people as fools who do not believe in BLM and ANTIFA propaganda.

Most criminal activity happens in Ghettos and surrounding areas. These are the people who sell drugs and commit extreme crimes.

Problem is not with black people. Problem is the victim mindset. I am darker than many black people around me. Never faced racism of any sort from any Cop or White America. This 2020 and nobody can stop anyone from growing in America.
 
Very convenient of you to name people as fools who do not believe in BLM and ANTIFA propaganda.

Most criminal activity happens in Ghettos and surrounding areas. These are the people who sell drugs and commit extreme crimes.

Problem is not with black people. Problem is the victim mindset. I am darker than many black people around me. Never faced racism of any sort from any Cop or White America. This 2020 and nobody can stop anyone from growing in America.

If you read above , I dont agree with BLM or any of those politaclly lined groups.

I am saying something very simple.

What black people do to other blacks , has no relevance to how the POLICE(government employees) behave.

Blacks are victims of racism, they have been in the US for hundreds of years. Things have obviously imporved but these random murders or shootings by police when no danger to them, need to stop. Otherwise this hatred will only get worse. Tbh I dont care what happens to America, for all I care it could fall into the sea due to its bloody history and war crimes around the world. I am just discussing the topic and we have to condemn brutal shootings as this, which you have failed to do. If you dont like black people even if you are dark ,just say it.
 
If you read above , I dont agree with BLM or any of those politaclly lined groups.

I am saying something very simple.

What black people do to other blacks , has no relevance to how the POLICE(government employees) behave.

Blacks are victims of racism, they have been in the US for hundreds of years. Things have obviously imporved but these random murders or shootings by police when no danger to them, need to stop. Otherwise this hatred will only get worse. Tbh I dont care what happens to America, for all I care it could fall into the sea due to its bloody history and war crimes around the world. I am just discussing the topic and we have to condemn brutal shootings as this, which you have failed to do. If you dont like black people even if you are dark ,just say it.

I have already posted the link about Cop fatal shootings on various races. Whites are the most people shot by cops. Double the number of blacks almost every year. If you think that Cops are somehow targeting blacks in particular, then you are wrong. Obviously there are some rogue cops and racist cops. But to say that this is systematic is utter lunacy.

The entire left and far left leaning media like CNN, BBC, NBC never report the true stories. They are race baiting left wing outlets who want to pull down Trump at any cost and are ready to pit whites against blacks to achieve their goals.
 
Its clearly obvious this race issue is political but this doesn't take away a man being shot 7 times at point blank in his back.

Its a fair generalisation US cops are trigger happy, this is nothing new but on going for decades.

Trump or Biden are no different in reality, both hype up incidents for their own personal agendas.

US is on a path to a race war when the good ol times are over, which will be when the dollar is pretty much dead and buried, leading to mass social issues.

He was shot 7 times because their instruction is to pretty much to dismantle the target; the cop also thought Blake was reaching for a weapon. Blake wasn't listening, but 99% of the time people would comply with the cops in that situation - it's just common sense. The cops will be investigate etc etc and walk free because they followed protocol.

I don't think there will be a race war, but I do think there will be a rise in black vs black within the political and public sphere.

BLM and ANTIFA should be called out for what they are - lefty terrorists. I don't even think it's fair to call them 'domestic' terrorists because their sanctomonious nonsense has poisoned societies across the globe.

Politicans milk situations all the time, however this time you have an entire woke snowflake generation whose sole aim is to rinse the situation and then brag about it. Utter cringe.

We're going to seem more left vs right wars, and if Trump wins, the USA will erupt.

I understand the game, so I see politics from an entertainment perspective, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the show! :)
 
I have already posted the link about Cop fatal shootings on various races. Whites are the most people shot by cops. Double the number of blacks almost every year. If you think that Cops are somehow targeting blacks in particular, then you are wrong. Obviously there are some rogue cops and racist cops. But to say that this is systematic is utter lunacy.

The entire left and far left leaning media like CNN, BBC, NBC never report the true stories. They are race baiting left wing outlets who want to pull down Trump at any cost and are ready to pit whites against blacks to achieve their goals.

Dont care about left or right, people who choose either side or label themselves have a small brain imo.

Black people being targetted by white racist cops in the US is not a myth, it's a fact. Its clear from your posts you have no issue this black man was shot 7 times at point blank.

He was shot 7 times because their instruction is to pretty much to dismantle the target; the cop also thought Blake was reaching for a weapon. Blake wasn't listening, but 99% of the time people would comply with the cops in that situation - it's just common sense. The cops will be investigate etc etc and walk free because they followed protocol.

Not sure which weapon he was reaching for, when firstly no weapon was see and secondlly the victim had his back to 3 cops. Shooting someone in the back with no weapon in hand is cold blooded & cowardly.

I don't think there will be a race war, but I do think there will be a rise in black vs black within the political and public sphere.

BLM and ANTIFA should be called out for what they are - lefty terrorists. I don't even think it's fair to call them 'domestic' terrorists because their sanctomonious nonsense has poisoned societies across the globe.

Politicans milk situations all the time, however this time you have an entire woke snowflake generation whose sole aim is to rinse the situation and then brag about it. Utter cringe.

We're going to seem more left vs right wars, and if Trump wins, the USA will erupt.

I understand the game, so I see politics from an entertainment perspective, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the show! :)

The Left and Right are both nutbjobs but the right are by far the most violent. There will be a race war, not all blacks v all whites but certain groups going around killing the other.

Im not sure about Trump winning but I agree it will cause issues but Trump being assasinated will give you more entertainment than you can imagine. This is a very real possibility esp if he looks to be winning the election.
 
The point is not whether there was a weapon or not, the point is the cop thought Blake had a weapon, after all Blake turned his backed and casually ignored the cop's instructions. Anyone in the cop's shoes would think Blake was reaching for something.
 
The point is not whether there was a weapon or not, the point is the cop thought Blake had a weapon, after all Blake turned his backed and casually ignored the cop's instructions. Anyone in the cop's shoes would think Blake was reaching for something.

He did have a weapon, Blake had a knife that has been recovered from the car.
 
He did have a weapon, Blake had a knife that has been recovered from the car.

A guy having a knife does not justify shooting him with a gun seven times.

These tragedies might not have anything to do with racism, but with all the victims being black, you would expect the dark skinned people to be upset.
 
A guy having a knife does not justify shooting him with a gun seven times.

These tragedies might not have anything to do with racism, but with all the victims being black, you would expect the dark skinned people to be upset.

Not all victims are black. Your perception is clearly based on the media, and the media has it's own agenda.
 
A guy having a knife does not justify shooting him with a gun seven times.

These tragedies might not have anything to do with racism, but with all the victims being black, you would expect the dark skinned people to be upset.

420 white men have been shot by police this year, how can you say all the victims are black.
 
He did have a weapon, Blake had a knife that has been recovered from the car.

There's also some info on an existing warrant?

People who are defending Blake must answer why he didn't listen to the police. The cop clearly waited till the last possible moment before shooting - clearly not trigger happy.
 
There's also some info on an existing warrant?

People who are defending Blake must answer why he didn't listen to the police. The cop clearly waited till the last possible moment before shooting - clearly not trigger happy.

I think the problem now is some people didn't wait for the whole story and blamed the police straight away and now cannot change their agenda.

He did have a warrant for his arrest for sexual offences, trespass and other minor charges. He was first tasered and struggled against the police, there was a knife on the drivers side floor of the car where he was reaching into.
 
Wisconsin's attorney general has named the officer who shot a black man on Sunday, sparking days of demonstrations.

Josh Kaul told reporters on Wednesday that Rusten Sheskey shot Jacob Blake seven times in the back as he opened the door of his car.

Officers found a knife in Mr Blake's car, he added, but no other weapons.

The shooting has sparked a wave of protests in recent days, some of which have turned violent.

A 17-year-old was arrested on Wednesday after two people were killed another injured amid unrest on Tuesday night.

Mr Blake is recovering in hospital and is conscious, but his lawyers fear it will take a "miracle" for him to walk again.

US President Donald Trump has since sent federal law enforcement to Kenosha, tweeting they were to combat "looting, arson, violence, and lawlessness on American streets".

The Department of Justice has opened a federal investigation into the shooting. It has sent more than 200 FBI agents and US Marshals to the city, according to a spokeswoman.

Shortly following Mr Trump's tweet, Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers said he had authorised 500 National Guard troops to support law enforcement efforts amid concerns about further violence.

Protests have also spread to a number of other US cities, including Portland, Oregon and in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where the police killing of unarmed black man George Floyd in May sparked Black Lives Matter protests across the US and globally.

What did the attorney general say?
On Wednesday, Mr Kaul updated reporters on the ongoing investigation into the shooting.

Officers were called to an address on Sunday evening after a woman reported "her boyfriend was present and was not supposed to be on the premises".

Lawyers for Mr Blake have said he had been trying to "de-escalate a domestic incident" when police drew their weapons.

While there they tried to arrest Mr Blake, initially using a taser against him. After Mr Blake opened his car door, Officer Rusten Sheskey - who has been in the Kenosha Police Department for seven years - fired seven shots into Mr Blake's back.

"No other officer fired their weapon," Mr Kaul said.

Mr Blake has since told investigators that he had a knife in his possession, and Mr Kaul said officers "recovered a knife from the driver's side floorboard" of his car. They found no other weapon in the vehicle.

Wisconsin's attorney general also addressed the recent violence in the city, calling it "despicable".

He said that there are some people "involved in destructive activity who are not from the city of Kenosha or not from the state of Wisconsin".

"All they are doing is creating chaos," he said, adding that the people of Kenosha "deserve to have the opportunity to grieve, protest peacefully [and] call for the change they want to see."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53927756
 
I think the problem now is some people didn't wait for the whole story and blamed the police straight away and now cannot change their agenda.

He did have a warrant for his arrest for sexual offences, trespass and other minor charges. He was first tasered and struggled against the police, there was a knife on the drivers side floor of the car where he was reaching into.

What’s actually a little more ironic is that desi people of indo/Pak origin going after the American police.
Seriously, have we seen how police operates back home in India n Pakistan? lol

Here in United States, yes we have cases of racial profiling and cases of police brutality and yes there is a need of improvement, but even then, this is a world class police force on a whole.

Dial 911 and in a matter of couple of minutes, the police is at your to help you.
Even a misdialed call to 911 results in police calling you back to verify that everything is OK and the call was dialed by mistake?

There are many political hurdles that have tied up police’s hands, otherwise we would have had an even better service.

Here is an example,
These criminal gangs from ghettos and hoods will have a gang member who is just under 16.
So they arrive at the target theft place in an affluent neighborhoods in the middle of the night and let the under 16 guy break in (thru the door or window) or smash the glass of the parked car.

The rest will then quickly move in to loot n steal and/or take the car.
Police arrives and thru the cctv video, they identify the culprit who broke in. They may arrest him but can’t lay full charges because he is a freaking juvenile. So he spends a day or two at the juvenile detention center before he is let free. Police can’t lay any serious charges against other adult thugs because “technically” they didn’t break in. They just saw an open door and stepped in to picked some items that they urgently needed.
That’s political correctness for you..

It has now reached to a point that police is sick n tired of this routine, so they just don’t do anymore arrests in these cases.

They have now simply started to ask the tax paying citizens to protect their homes and properties on their own by double locking the cars and home doors. It’s such a shame

So what happens?
Police officers continuously see a certain race doing these kinda crimes over n over again but they can’t do much about it. They know that their payrolls come out of our taxes but they can’t provide the service to their own communities. And trust me, this causes a lot of frustration in police, and naturally some of them start stereotyping against one particular race.

As I stated earlier, there are many many great black American citizens but on whole if there is a racial divide then in my opinion, if working class whites and Asians stop paying their taxes, the blacks communities would be in much worse shape.

We have a system in America to punish the hardworking tax payer and reward the lazy.
If you visit section 8 housing apartments, you will likely notice young black men wearing brand new Nike shoes and brand name sporting clothes playing basketball all day. He is healthy and fit but he doesn’t have a job and he doesn’t want to have a job. Govt pays for their house rent and drug trade and criminal activities make him great money.

I have personally seen cases where he gets off of a new Mercedes car, he is wrapped in gold and silver chains with a tilted hat. He enters the grocery store n picks up 12 packs of beer and plays $100 worth of lotto scratch tickets - he opens his wallet that is loaded with cash, which he uses to pay beer and lotto bill.
And now, he picks up a loaf bread n a gallon of milk. Guess what? He pulls out a govt issued welfare check card to pay the bill.

I fully stand up with all those who raise their voice against injustice; and I fully support that wrong doers in police should be brought under the weight of law, however, those who talk about defunding the police and go after the entire police department for the bad actions of a few, I tell them to move in with your families and try living in parts of Harlem and Flatbush NY or East St. Louis IL or Camden NJ or South Chicago. It will be a heaven for you because police in general won’t interfere in your business. You will love raising your family n kids a minimal police administered area.



Not fair!

This has to stop!!

Black lives matter!!!!!!!!!!

Police clearly gave him enough opportunity to comply but he chose not to. You have the right to voice your opinion and call it unfair, and I don’t have an issue with it.

But when you say “ Black lives matter” then that’s where I would want some more detail.
By saying “black lives matter”, if we mean that ALL blacks lives matter, then I don’t agree.
I would rather say, “ALL INNOCENT LIVES MATTER REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN”.

Here is an example,
This scumbag is hardly 30 and he already has 60 + arrest records.
His life doesn’t matter to me.

Watch Video below but VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED

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