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Ok so Haider Ali is the next big thing from Pakistan but has played just ONE T20I whilst Shaw is ahead on that count.

However, there is the question of that word = talent.

If we can ignore the international experience of Shaw and concentrate on the domestic/IPL/PSL side of things - which of Shaw or Haider Ali stands out as the better player?


Haider Ali

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Prithvi Shaw

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Young Indian batsmen have advantage of getting a lot of domestic cricket at young age. However, Pakistan side is always in the need of good batsmen so someone like Haider can get more opportunities at top level which can help in the overall growth.

Both are pretty decent young players and both dont mind going aerial as well when bowl is in their zone.

At the moment considering the domestic experience and consistent domestic performances Shaw can be said as ahead in terms of development but, Haider can benefit from international exposure early in his career which can allow him to grow at a good pace. As an example Babar had mediocre FC stats (Good List A stats though) when he debuted for Pakistan (His average was around early 30s) but he showed a really good attitude and responded well.

So its difficult to predict future as of now but, both have enough talent so the difference would be development and overall attitude towards their game.
 
Very hard to compare, these are early days, need to watch more of Haider Ali.

Shaw certainly has a lot of technical flaws but will score in conditions suited to his batting and will score heavily as well.
 
Haider has technical issues from what I have seen. He squares up too much and is therefore vulnerable to a good outswinger.
However, he is extremely young and raw with loads of ability.
I also see a great attitude in him, which should allow him to overcome those issues.
 
Young indian players play more Fc cricket in comparison to its pakistani counterparts who concentrate more on t20s

Hence why they are ahead in development as pritivi shaw is
 
Lol there’s no comparison right now and most likely will be imo. Prithvi Shaw will go right to the very top. Right to the very top. There is no doubt of that unless he just loses focus or suffers from some other problems on mental level and is unable to take the pressure and expectations. His batting game has almost everything and he has been honing his skills at a high level since 13-14 year old.

Haider Ali is a very talented batsman who has all the ingredients of making himself into a top player with proper application and work ethic. However Prithvi Shaw is playing in a different league.
 
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Shaw already has a test century. Once he is again getting a consistent run.. he will go much farther then many other batsmen in the world....let alone Haider.
There is no comparison at this stage.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Shaw already has a test century. Once he is again getting a consistent run.. he will go much farther then many other batsmen in the world....let alone Haider.
There is no comparison at this stage.
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Shaw has a lot of chinks in his technique
 
Shaw has a great future and the positive for him is, he has world class players to guide him and world class coaching for him. That is a safety net which Ali might not have.
Having said that, I would love to see this new Pakistani kid rise up the ranks and challenge Indian batsmen. It will be a good contest then. I pray and hope he lives up to the expectations.
 
zain7077 said:
Shaw has a lot of chinks in his technique
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Lots of young batsmen have chinks.. but he has been scoring runs even with that technique.
But talent is there and a system to back that talent fully.
So unless he goes the Umar Akmal way in the attitude.. i foresee him as a top batsmen in coming times.
 
Shaw looks like a very rash batsman, but that can be very positive, as he can score runs very freely. Will be very interesting to see how he fares in Australia.

Haider has seen very little of international cricket, but he looks to have a very high ceiling and I think he can surpass Shaw, his technique looks a lot more sound for most conditions
 
Impossible to compare too early. However shaw already has a test match 100.
 
I don't really rate Shaw that much, all he does is play shots blindly but he lacks the discipline to reign himself in on difficult pitches or against difficult bowlers or a tough bowling spell.
 
Haider has not even played a single test match against an international quality bowling attack.
At this moment Shaw is ahead.
Let Haider face the variety of attacks e.g West Indies and New Zealand at least. Then we can compare.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Haider has not even played a single test match against an international quality bowling attack.
At this moment Shaw is ahead.
Let Haider face the variety of attacks e.g West Indies and New Zealand at least. Then we can compare.
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And that will remain the case if he is not given chances.

Not included in the 15-member ODI squad for 1st game against Zimbabwe
 
Shaw has potential to be the next shewag. Everyone is writing him off but the kid is a serious talent. He looks like an old uncle with his physique though. Maybe working out will help him.

Keep your head up

Haider impressed me alot in under 19. He hasn't played much so I can't say much about him. Seems impressive in the shorter format.

Shaw is not a good T20 player. He.is fairly good in odi but he has serious potential in tests.
 
MenInG said:
And that will remain the case if he is not given chances.

Not included in the 15-member ODI squad for 1st game against Zimbabwe
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He should have been included. Hopefully gets a chance in this series and becomes a permanent fixture. Saw his batting in QEA match.. he is a real deal. Needs to be given more chances
 
Haider is a middle order batsman who in future will have to grind down scores. Shaw is a swashbuckling opener in the mould of Sehwag. I believe this comparison will make as much sense as Sehwag vs Younis Khan in the future. Not saying these guys will develop into such great players, of course. Just hoping so the rivalry remains intact and both countries can flourish.
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
Haider is a middle order batsman who in future will have to grind down scores. Shaw is a swashbuckling opener in the mould of Sehwag. I believe this comparison will make as much sense as Sehwag vs Younis Khan in the future. Not saying these guys will develop into such great players, of course. Just hoping so the rivalry remains intact and both countries can flourish.
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Haider is a top order batsman
 
Immensely impressed with Haider whom I wish to see as mainstay in Pakistan team.

Shaw is bit flashy which will work in his favour because normal has no place in this Indian team right now with a badly packed middle order.
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
Haider is a middle order batsman who in future will have to grind down scores. Shaw is a swashbuckling opener in the mould of Sehwag. I believe this comparison will make as much sense as Sehwag vs Younis Khan in the future. Not saying these guys will develop into such great players, of course. Just hoping so the rivalry remains intact and both countries can flourish.
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Haider is an opener. Has opened his whole career.
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
Haider is a middle order batsman who in future will have to grind down scores. Shaw is a swashbuckling opener in the mould of Sehwag. I believe this comparison will make as much sense as Sehwag vs Younis Khan in the future. Not saying these guys will develop into such great players, of course. Just hoping so the rivalry remains intact and both countries can flourish.
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Haider needs to play in the top 3 oppening is his preferred position
 
244 today for Shaw from 153 balls in the One Day Cup.

Incredible batting.
 
Wasn't Haider playing for Derbyshire? How has he done there so far is he still playing for them?
 
Saj said:
244 today for Shaw from 153 balls in the One Day Cup.

Incredible batting.
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Yeah props to him. But the way he’s looking, like an overweight middle aged desk jockey, I doubt Shaw will be able to make a long international career.
 
Saj said:
244 today for Shaw from 153 balls in the One Day Cup.

Incredible batting.
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He already has very good list A numbers so this knock although great is not really surprising. But is he good enough for India?? I remain doubtful
 
hes one of the most talented batsman ive seen, seems to have had mental issues dealing with stuff which is his only limitation, as a pak fan im happy he doesnt play regularly for india because his ceiling is significantly higher than any other young indian batsman ive seen since kohli imo.
 
Most of the better county players are playing in Hundred, No?

So he basically bashed a third 11 county team.
 
Shaw is incredibly talented, but seems to want to be Viv Richards on every occasion. If you wanted a mentor for him it would be Dravid but ironically Dravid seems to hate his cricketing guts.
 
Where's Shaw at in terms of national selection?

Looks like Gill has left him behind.
 
It seems both Shaw and Haider Ali have a great ability to bash sub tier domestic bowlers with Shaw being incredibly more potent at this and when they actually face top tier international level players, they both seem to shackle under quality bowling.

Shaw in particularly has this issue, not only does he have grave technical flaws in his batting but he is also gravely unfit and lacks athleticism while fielding. The way he injured himself in the Australia series was an absolute joke! He seems to relish in conditions were trudlers and flat wickets are involved but gets mentally destroyed when any really pressure is put on him. Feel sorry for him though, sometimes too much expectation, over attention and over hype can build pressure and thus cause issues with confidence.

Shubman Gill is far better in terms of technique and fitness but time will tell if he has the mental ability and hunger to make runs at high levels of cricket.
 
Adijazz1706 said:
Whats Haider Ali upto these days? Seems to have disappeared from view
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He's at Derbyshire for the season playing all formats.

Good opportunity for him, working with Mickey Arthur.

So far, a mixed season really. Some good scores mixed in with some poor ones.
 
125 not out off 76 balls today for Shaw.

Another excellent innings in the One Day Cup from him.
 
Shaw has a long road ahead if he has to play for India. He will not get an opportunity until Rohit retires. Even then, he is in competition with Gill, Jaiswal, Gaikwad etc. Not easy for him. His body shape will also be a detriment for him.
 
Prithvi Shaw has been ruled out of the remainder of his stint in county cricket after injuring his knee while fielding against Durham.

Shaw is currently the leading run scorer in the One Day Cup, having scored 429 runs in four innings.
 
Shaw seems a bit of maverick and I don't think the Ind hierarchy know what to do with him when he fails. But his approach is high risk, high reward but the Inds are moving away from individuals and more about the team. Surely you can strike a balance
 
Shaw is a failed international career. List of openers who have put themselves higher in the reckoning are :

Gill
Jaiswal
Ruturaj
Kishan
 
Prithvi Shaw: Northamptonshire re-sign India batter for most of 2024 season.

Northamptonshire have re-signed Prithvi Shaw for next season, with the India batter to return in June.

Shaw, 23, made a record-breaking impact for Northants in this season's One-Day Cup, hitting a club best 244 against Somerset earlier this month.

He followed that with another century against Durham before a knee injury cut short his stay after four matches.

Shaw will be available for both the County Championship and 50-over format while at Wantage Road.

"We saw the impact Prithvi made in his short stay this year and how well he was received by supporters," chief executive Ray Payne said.
"Even though it was over quickly I really enjoyed my time there," Shaw said.

"It's a great club to be a part of and I felt so welcome by everyone immediately. I can't wait to get back over."

www.bbc.com

Northants re-sign India's Shaw for most of 2024

Record-breaking India batter Prithvi Shaw will rejoin Northamptonshire next season from June.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
I believe Prithvi Shaw possesses a more solid technical foundation compared to Haider Ali.
 
Haider Ali is not even on the map for selection at the moment. But it seems that Prithvi isn't either, due to all the competition of good, young, more reliable Indian openers.

2 irrelevant players right now.
 
Shaw is the closest to Sehwag I've seen. Incredible talent, brilliant hand eye coordination and always looking to dominate the opposition. Probably just needs some mentoring and he does need to be taught to keep his ego in check (something Ponting insinuated to a few years ago)
 
Shaw could not clear that Yoyo test a few years ago. He is not the fittest guy going around. And got injured in the Royal London One-Day Cup as well. Breaking into Indian top 3 is tough. I think Yashaswi and Sai Sudarshan are ahead in the pecking order now once Virat and Rohit are done.

Haider Ali is not as far ahead in his development as he should be for his "actual" age . Also doesn't look particularly fit. If he can't even perform consistently against RLODC bowlers at this stage, PAK are better off looking elsewhere
 
Ab Fan said:
Shaw is a failed international career. List of openers who have put themselves higher in the reckoning are :

Gill
Jaiswal
Ruturaj
Kishan
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Shaw is better than Ruturaj and Kishan even half slept.
In his mind he is playing like Gilly, and the result is a SR of 121 after 29 T20I's.
 
Mobashir said:
Shaw is better than Ruturaj and Kishan even half slept.
In his mind he is playing like Gilly, and the result is a SR of 121 after 29 T20I's.
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Ruturaj is clearly a better batsman than Shaw. His approach and mind is on right direction and has the hunger for runs.

Kishan has technical flaws but being a lefty and a keeper bat, he has some added positives too. Shaw is the Unmukt Chand of this era.
 
Mobashir said:
Shaw is better than Ruturaj and Kishan even half slept.
In his mind he is playing like Gilly, and the result is a SR of 121 after 29 T20I's.
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Reality of today :-

Kishan > Shaw

Kishan and his fans never said anything like that but he is doing the job that he is expected to do. Shaw would have been a walking wicket vs Shaheen/Naseem. Kishan smashed Rauf and then your spinners also in a high pressure situation.
 
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