[VIDEO] Same situations, but different responses; Why India fears China more than any other nation?

[The Bald Eagle]

China-India Border Conflicts and stark comparison with India's attitude towards Pakistan:

India and China have fought a full-fledge war in 1962 and have been involved in multiple skirmishes too like 1967 Nathu La clashes, 1987 Sumdorong Chu standoff, 2017 Doklam plateau tensions and 2020 Galwan Valley Clash. But never have they dared to conduct a "surgical strike" there and never have they dared to challenge their occupation at Akshai Chin (post 1962 wars).

But when it comes to Pakistan, the Indian media goes bonkers and keep on pushing the incumbent government for a violent face off. So the question is why journalists like Arnab Goswami favors for the same style war against Pakistan as they love to conduct against China....

 

[sweep_shot]

India is no match to China econmically or miltarily.

A strike inside China can be the literal end of India and I think Indians know it deep down.

 

[Bhaijaan]

You can call it hypocrisy, doglapan, cowardice and whatever but we are pragmatic about not antagonizing a nation with deeper pockets and better war readiness than us. China’s time will also come one day. We have to settle many scores with them. We didn’t split ourselves up in half in some misadventure with China like some nations.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You can call it hypocrisy, doglapan, cowardice and whatever but we are pragmatic about not antagonizing a nation with deeper pockets and better war readiness than us. China’s time will also come one day. We have to settle many scores with them. We didn’t split ourselves up in half in some misadventure with China like some nations.

Well I appreciate your pragmatism , but a sincere advice for your country....Don't rely on USA for any future misadventure with China.

 

[sweep_shot]

Well I appreciate your pragmatism , but a sincere advice for your country....Don't rely on USA for any future misadventure with China.

Agree.

USA has a track record of stabbing allies in the back.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

India is no match to China econmically or miltarily.

A strike inside China can be the literal end of India and I think Indians know it deep down.

Chinese are relentless force, they will die but not cede an inch and some nations know this very well

 

[ElRaja]

well, if one wanted to be conspiritorial about it, one could say that any escalation that entangles china in any way, even at the expense of india, would work out very well for the USA.

 

[cricketfan24]

India loves to flex its muscles in front of smaller countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh, but when it comes to dealing with someone their own size, they suddenly go quiet.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

India loves to flex its muscles in front of smaller countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh, but when it comes to dealing with someone their own size, they suddenly go quiet.

A simple but nice explanation

 

[LordJames]

well, if one wanted to be conspiritorial about it, one could say that any escalation that entangles china in any way, even at the expense of india, would work out very well for the USA.

China will likely not intervene between India and Pakistan in a surgical strike situation but Link 17 of PAF uses BeiDou Navigation Satellite System for the past few years and Chinese will continue to support it. Indian S-400 batteries to counter PAF and China are already locked and able to be targeted and China already shares this.

In a land invasion scenario we can summarize as the vectors for Indian Ground invasion as follows:

Naval Blocked of Pakistan sea lanes: CERTAIN and it was strategic mistake to slow down CPEC because if Chinese shipments are threatened it would have been a different ballgame.

1. (Lower) Thar: Too hot for men and machine
2. (Upper) Cholistan (Rahimyar Khan or Bahawupur): Challenging for all variants for Indian Arjun Tanks and older Soviet inventory but possible but it will be ferocious for Indian Army machines
3. Shakar Garh: More possible but how will they go to Kashmir and GB from here?
4. Sialkot: Likely but how will they go to Kashmir and GB from here?
5. Kashmir: Terrain makes it difficult and India won't be able to commit heavy numbers and machines but it is the only pathway to GB for Indian Army

In 3 & 4, Indian Army has its presence in hostile Indian Punjab so they will have to keep an eye on their own citizens.

China will most certainly intervene in 5.

 

[LordJames]

@ElRaja

Forgot to add.

In the event of Indian invasion from any sector, Chinese grey zone activities across LAC will increase forcing Indians to critically think about deploying their Assets and splitting them between LOC and LAC.

Nothing to do with Pakistan, it will be foolish for Chinese to not push the Indian military in a confrontation.

In addition, Chinese will gain valuable intelligence from any confrontation particularly in the space, and cyberspace domains.

 

[LordJames]

@ElRaja

Forgot to add.

In the event of Indian invasion from any sector, Chinese grey zone activities across LAC will increase forcing Indians to critically think about deploying their Assets and splitting them between LOC and LAC.

Nothing to do with Pakistan, it will be foolish for Chinese to not push the Indian military in a confrontation.

In addition, Chinese will gain valuable intelligence from any confrontation particularly in the space, and cyberspace domains.

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Chinese grey zone activity has already started, Chinese don't need to intervene kinetically...

 

[sweep_shot]

@ElRaja

Forgot to add.

In the event of Indian invasion from any sector, Chinese grey zone activities across LAC will increase forcing Indians to critically think about deploying their Assets and splitting them between LOC and LAC.

Nothing to do with Pakistan, it will be foolish for Chinese to not push the Indian military in a confrontation.

In addition, Chinese will gain valuable intelligence from any confrontation particularly in the space, and cyberspace domains.

China can do subcontinent a great service if they manage to balkanize India.

The weaker and smaller India become, the better it is for peace in the region.

 

[The_KING]

India can only pick on weaker and smaller nations like Pakistan. They crap themselves against superpowers like China. India are a typical bully.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Well I appreciate your pragmatism , but a sincere advice for your country....Don't rely on USA for any future misadventure with China.

It’s a great advice dear brother.
it won’t happen. Although every extra penny spent on our defense arsenal is with an eye on China (not Pakistan anymore). Their time will come. Tibet will be freed too. It will all happen. At the right time. Godless China cannot withstand Timeless Sanatan. We are inevitable. The fire of Dharma burns strong in descendants of ancient sages.

 

[JaDed]

I think it will be hard for even Indian posters to comment on all Indian threads here, hopefully it’s for Pakistani posters consumption.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

It’s a great advice dear brother.
it won’t happen. Although every extra penny spent on our defense arsenal is with an eye on China (not Pakistan anymore). Their time will come. Tibet will be freed too. It will all happen. At the right time. Godless China cannot withstand Timeless Sanatan. We are inevitable. The fire of Dharma burns strong in descendants of ancient sages.

But please beware the dragon has deadly fangs...and need to break it's partnership with Pakistan first

 

[Stewie]

We all know the answer to this question. Its hatred sowed by the Brits. Indians (and Pakistanis) get more riled up and excited when its the other side, no matter how insignificant and minor the issue.

Whether its Modi or the Pakistani establishment, the best way to raise your popularity is by picking a fight with your neighbor to the west or east respectively. China could take their lunch, breakfast, dinner, all the sacred cows and India wont say anything.

Same with Pakistan, US could drone the heck out of their people along the Afghan border but we wont lose any sleep over that.

It is all rather ridiculous or appalling, depending on how you look at it.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

We all know the answer to this question. Its hatred sowed by the Brits. Indians (and Pakistanis) get more riled up and excited when its the other side, no matter how insignificant and minor the issue.

Whether its Modi or the Pakistani establishment, the best way to raise your popularity is by picking a fight with your neighbor to the west or east respectively. China could take their lunch, breakfast, dinner, all the sacred cows and India wont say anything.

Same with Pakistan, US could drone the heck out of their people along the Afghan border but we wont lose any sleep over that.

It is all rather ridiculous or appalling, depending on how you look at it.

But it's true that the size of enemy matters...Indian soldiers fear Chinese as some Dagestanians

 

[Stewie]

But it's true that the size of enemy matters...Indian soldiers fear Chinese as some Dagestanians

Its natural, they have won against us, but never beat China, I believe. I could be wrong though. Have they ever won any battles or wars against China?

Its quite natural to fear someone like that. Also if I understand correctly, India's military enrollment is facing a severe shortage of manpower. The overall enlistment is significantly down. The defense budget is also not something to write home about.

There are already complaints and uproar over how the tragedy at Pehelgam could have been avoided if they had sufficient manpower around.

China on the other hands is a massive self sustained military industrial complex now. They have the tech and stuff the world has not even seen or heard of if you believe the whispers going around. Their cyber offense capabilities are giving Americans sleepless nights and they have no shortage of money, resolve, or threat of internal dissent like most democratic nations.

 

[sweep_shot]

Its natural, they have won against us, but never beat China, I believe. I could be wrong though. Have they ever won any battles or wars against China?

Its quite natural to fear someone like that. Also if I understand correctly, India's military enrollment is facing a severe shortage of manpower. The overall enlistment is significantly down. The defense budget is also not something to write home about.

There are already complaints and uproar over how the tragedy at Pehelgam could have been avoided if they had sufficient manpower around.

China on the other hands is a massive self sustained military industrial complex now. They have the tech and stuff the world has not even seen or heard of if you believe the whispers going around. Their cyber offense capabilities are giving Americans sleepless nights and they have no shortage of money, resolve, or threat of internal dissent like most democratic nations.

India have never won any battle against China and probably never will.

China is far superior to India in terms of military strength.

For the record, China annexed 2000 sq km of territory from India since 2020. India could do nothing about it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

India loves to flex its muscles in front of smaller countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh, but when it comes to dealing with someone their own size, they suddenly go quiet.

The whole situation summed up in one concise sentence.

 

[ElRaja]

@ElRaja

Forgot to add.

In the event of Indian invasion from any sector, Chinese grey zone activities across LAC will increase forcing Indians to critically think about deploying their Assets and splitting them between LOC and LAC.

Nothing to do with Pakistan, it will be foolish for Chinese to not push the Indian military in a confrontation.

In addition, Chinese will gain valuable intelligence from any confrontation particularly in the space, and cyberspace domains.

im not sure how china would want to play this, they can test all they want via Pakistan as a proxy, given the short durations of the previous altercations it wouldnt give china much time to do anything

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Last time India and China had an altercation the Chinese literally cooked them alive and rumours are they are them too.

When Pakistan and India has an altercation we gave them soldier some tea and sent him home.

If you were an Indian and had to pick a fight who would you pick?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Last time India and China had an altercation the Chinese literally cooked them alive and rumours are they are them too.

When Pakistan and India has an altercation we gave them soldier some tea and sent him home.

If you were an Indian and had to pick a fight who would you pick?

Lol Brother @DeadlyVenom the answer of your question is too obvious that I am sure no Indian would answer it.

 

[Justcrazy]

India is afraid because there is a reason for that. It is not cowardice , it is awareness.
India right now does not have good relations with any of its neighbors.

You cannot afford a full fledged war , because If China also starts advancing , India cannot fight from multiple frontiers. Wars in real life are not like what is shown in movie , that hero goes and fights the whole of Pakistan. Bombing or using missiles will not win you war , you have to come down and take control , which is a very difficult thing to do.

 

[straighttalk]

China-India Border Conflicts and stark comparison with India's attitude towards Pakistan:

India and China have fought a full-fledge war in 1962 and have been involved in multiple skirmishes too like 1967 Nathu La clashes, 1987 Sumdorong Chu standoff, 2017 Doklam plateau tensions and 2020 Galwan Valley Clash. But never have they dared to conduct a "surgical strike" there and never have they dared to challenge their occupation at Akshai Chin (post 1962 wars).

But when it comes to Pakistan, the Indian media goes bonkers and keep on pushing the incumbent government for a violent face off. So the question is why journalists like Arnab Goswami favors for the same style war against Pakistan as they love to conduct against China....

Let China sponsor terrorist ..kill innocent's in the name of religion..then we are talking about same situation ..they are a old civilizations...world's second most powerful country with whom we have significant trade...we are rivals competitors and may not like each other but we don't go and kill innocent people. We have arguments and fights and everything.

I have been to China for work and I accept I was customer but I was highly impressed by their people their development and their progress as well as the people over there.

 

[straighttalk]

Well at least we don't let a helicopter raid to come in .take our VIP guest..kill him and leave without any repercussions.we may not attack China but we push them away and make them come to negotiation table and leave without any land gain...our army stands eye to eye...what say your Pak army..anyone can walk over you...

 

[straighttalk]

Its natural, they have won against us, but never beat China, I believe. I could be wrong though. Have they ever won any battles or wars against China?

Its quite natural to fear someone like that. Also if I understand correctly, India's military enrollment is facing a severe shortage of manpower. The overall enlistment is significantly down. The defense budget is also not something to write home about.

There are already complaints and uproar over how the tragedy at Pehelgam could have been avoided if they had sufficient manpower around.

China on the other hands is a massive self sustained military industrial complex now. They have the tech and stuff the world has not even seen or heard of if you believe the whispers going around. Their cyber offense capabilities are giving Americans sleepless nights and they have no shortage of money, resolve, or threat of internal dissent like most democratic nations.

Here...some categorical neutral information for ya

Nathu La and Cho La clashes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

China is a powerful country...both militarily and economically..more than India...war against China will be catastrophic for India but we are their second biggest rival after USA...however we are not a strategic enemy of China..we squabble but are far behind Taiwan US South China Sea and their historic grievances against Korea and Japan...so only reason they fight with us is because of IndonUS alliance

 

[straighttalk]

Chinese are relentless force, they will die but not cede an inch and some nations know this very well

nothing against China. They are power ful country but just pointkng out the fallacy in your statement...also they gave up lot of gains after Galwan..agreed we also gave up land we gained ..so contrary to how Pak let's us bomb and kill Osama..we don't let China walk all over us...but we agree they are a much powerful country than India...thanks to Himalayas though .they can't use their tanks or their jets over India and they are not USA to challenge India on our waters ..so really they can't do much ..bcos of the Himalayas..and we can screw their supply of and when US gets into hot war with China...that is Chinas issue with India...alliance with USA

 

[Rajdeep]

The reason(s) are very simple.

1. China dont send terrorists in India to kill Indian citizens.

2. China dont fund insurgency in Aksai Chin and support secessionist movement.

3. China or Chinese people dont hate India for being hindu majority

4. China was never a part of India and wanted to break out due to religion

5. China dont protect and shelters Indias most wanteds and D gang members

India's issue with China is for the supremacy in Asia. It is totally different equation with Pakistan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The reason(s) are very simple.

1. China dont send terrorists in India to kill Indian citizens.

2. China dont fund insurgency in Aksai Chin and support secessionist movement.

3. China or Chinese people dont hate India for being hindu majority

4. China was never a part of India and wanted to break out due to religion

5. China dont protect and shelters Indias most wanteds and D gang members

India's issue with China is for the supremacy in Asia. It is totally different equation with Pakistan.

Strange how you left out the two most obvious reasons.

1. China would wipe the floor with India.

2. See above.

 

[Rajdeep]

Strange how you left out the two most obvious reasons.

1. China would wipe the floor with India.

2. See above.

It is not as obvious as you make it to be. If China and India gets into a war, many other nations will get involve as well. Just like how Russia is not able to defeat much inferior Ukraine. Entire NATO and USA will side with India, Russia will remain neutral, Israel may support India as well but doubtful and Turkiye will side with China.

So China wiping the floor maybe a good segment in ARY news for its delusional Falze Felag audiences but reality is different.

 

[Kianig89]

The issues in Arunachal Pardesh will rise if India stands up against China , so silently they are weighing the situation

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It is not as obvious as you make it to be. If China and India gets into a war, many other nations will get involve as well. Just like how Russia is not able to defeat much inferior Ukraine. Entire NATO and USA will side with India, Russia will remain neutral, Israel may support India as well but doubtful and Turkiye will side with China.

So China wiping the floor maybe a good segment in ARY news for its delusional Falze Felag audiences but reality is different.

Now you are relying on Big Daddy USA coming to India's rescue. I think we are looking too far ahead, India never had any intention of fighting China, that is why they were producing verdicts of Pakistan hand involved before the first body had hit the ground.

 

[sweep_shot]

India is afraid because there is a reason for that. It is not cowardice , it is awareness.
India right now does not have good relations with any of its neighbors.

You cannot afford a full fledged war , because If China also starts advancing , India cannot fight from multiple frontiers. Wars in real life are not like what is shown in movie , that hero goes and fights the whole of Pakistan. Bombing or using missiles will not win you war , you have to come down and take control , which is a very difficult thing to do.

If a full-blown war breaks out and China get involved, I hope China will neutralize India decisively.

India has been a menace to the region. A defeated/weakened/balkanized India is exactly what is required in the region.

Majority of the issues in subcontinent revolves around India.

 

[Rajdeep]

Now you are relying on Big Daddy USA coming to India's rescue. I think we are looking too far ahead, India never had any intention of fighting China, that is why they were producing verdicts of Pakistan hand involved before the first body had hit the ground.

I have never said otherwise. It is you brought the topic that China would wipe the floor with India and I just reminded you it is more difficult than you think.

 

[LordJames]

I have never said otherwise. It is you brought the topic that China would wipe the floor with India and I just reminded you it is more difficult than you think.

Rajdeep,

I would like you to carefully consider the points I'm making.

Many Indian posters on this forum (and elsewhere) argue that India can defeat Pakistan due to its stronger economy and larger military. However, if this logic holds true, then China—being significantly ahead of India in virtually every measurable metric—should also be able to defeat India with ease.

If the counterargument from Indian posters is that, despite China's superiority, India would still resist and inflict damage on China, then by the same logic, Pakistan could also resist and hurt India—regardless of the disparity in capabilities.

Similarly, if the argument is that China has more to lose economically in a war with India, making such a conflict costly for Beijing, then the same reasoning applies to India in a conflict with Pakistan. War would also be economically damaging for India, and it too would have a lot to lose.

In my view, in the event of a war between India and Pakistan, it is India that stands to suffer far more—and potentially in a very serious way. As I’ve said before, regardless of the war’s outcome, Islam as a faith will endure, while Hinduism may not survive such a conflict.

 

[sweep_shot]

A question that Rajdeep and many delusional Indians avoid --> How can they protect themselves from 130+ nukes that Pakistan possess? What kind of defense mechanism do they have other than bunkers?

The way I see it:
India is likely to turn into a radioactive piece of land if a full-blown war breaks out with Pakistan.
India is likely to turn into a parking lot if a full-blown war breaks out with China.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

nothing against China. They are power ful country but just pointkng out the fallacy in your statement...also they gave up lot of gains after Galwan..agreed we also gave up land we gained ..so contrary to how Pak let's us bomb and kill Osama..we don't let China walk all over us...but we agree they are a much powerful country than India...thanks to Himalayas though .they can't use their tanks or their jets over India and they are not USA to challenge India on our waters ..so really they can't do much ..bcos of the Himalayas..and we can screw their supply of and when US gets into hot war with China...that is Chinas issue with India...alliance with USA

In which delusional world you live, hopefully you are not following any party's WhatsApp university group
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As of 2023, about 2,000 sq km of Indian land has been ceded to China since June 2020. Modi has been criticized for maintaining silence over the territorial loss.In January 2023, a paper presented to the Ministry of Home Affairs, with inputs from Ladakh Police, stated that India had lost access to 26 out of 65 Patrolling Points in eastern Ladakh since June 2020.

 

[Rajdeep]

Rajdeep,

I would like you to carefully consider the points I'm making.

Many Indian posters on this forum (and elsewhere) argue that India can defeat Pakistan due to its stronger economy and larger military. However, if this logic holds true, then China—being significantly ahead of India in virtually every measurable metric—should also be able to defeat India with ease.

If the counterargument from Indian posters is that, despite China's superiority, India would still resist and inflict damage on China, then by the same logic, Pakistan could also resist and hurt India—regardless of the disparity in capabilities.

Similarly, if the argument is that China has more to lose economically in a war with India, making such a conflict costly for Beijing, then the same reasoning applies to India in a conflict with Pakistan. War would also be economically damaging for India, and it too would have a lot to lose.

In my view, in the event of a war between India and Pakistan, it is India that stands to suffer far more—and potentially in a very serious way. As I’ve said before, regardless of the war’s outcome, Islam as a faith will endure, while Hinduism may not survive such a conflict.

Your last line is riddled with delusion, but that’s not surprising coming from someone like you. Hinduism has survived thousands of years of Islamic invasions and is still intact today. Pakistan has fought four wars with India since its formation—not only did they lose all of them, but Hindus still make up 80% of India’s population.

So come down from your bigoted high horse regarding Hinduism as a religion in the event of an all-out war between India and Pakistan. And if you think that if such a war breaks out, the Arab world and the wider Ummah will side with Pakistan and obliterate India and its 80% Hindus, you are highly mistaken. If that were the case, the Ummah would have stopped Israel a long time ago. In fact, your Western Muslim neighbors would spit on your face, let alone supporting you.

In any case, any Ummar or his grandfather will not be able to wipe out Hinduism. Pakistanis like you must understand to keep your religion in your pocket, else you will be taught a lesson. Honestly, I can only laugh at brain-faded individuals like you and the delusions that you carry. The more I read your posts, the more I realize why so many terrorists are so deeply brainwashed.

@Devadwal - Paijaan ki khwahish dekho zara

 

[LordJames]

Your last line is riddled with delusion, but that’s not surprising coming from someone like you. Hinduism has survived thousands of years of Islamic invasions and is still intact today. Pakistan has fought four wars with India since its formation—not only did they lose all of them, but Hindus still make up 80% of India’s population.

So come down from your bigoted high horse regarding Hinduism as a religion in the event of an all-out war between India and Pakistan. And if you think that if such a war breaks out, the Arab world and the wider Ummah will side with Pakistan and obliterate India and its 80% Hindus, you are highly mistaken. If that were the case, the Ummah would have stopped Israel a long time ago. In fact, your Western Muslim neighbors would spit on your face, let alone supporting you.

In any case, any Ummar or his grandfather will not be able to wipe out Hinduism. Pakistanis like you must understand to keep your religion in your pocket, else you will be taught a lesson. Honestly, I can only laugh at brain-faded individuals like you and the delusions that you carry. The more I read your posts, the more I realize why so many terrorists are so deeply brainwashed.

@Devadwal - Paijaan ki khwahish dekho zara

No Nation state (Muslim, Arab or otherwise) is likely to fully and overtly support Pakistan in a war against India, I have said this multiple times.

You are stating the opposite of what I am repeatedly saying. What I am saying is that the ultimate outcome of an India-Pakistan war even if both nation states are mutually destroyed is end of Hinduism due to its link with the geography of India.

You have also completely skipped this part of the post because it doesn't suit your narrative.

Many Indian posters on this forum (and elsewhere) argue that India can defeat Pakistan due to its stronger economy and larger military. However, if this logic holds true, then China—being significantly ahead of India in virtually every measurable metric—should also be able to defeat India with ease.

If the counterargument from Indian posters is that, despite China's superiority, India would still resist and inflict damage on China, then by the same logic, Pakistan could also resist and hurt India—regardless of the disparity in capabilities.

Similarly, if the argument is that China has more to lose economically in a war with India, making such a conflict costly for Beijing, then the same reasoning applies to India in a conflict with Pakistan. War would also be economically damaging for India, and it too would have a lot to lose.

Good Luck.

 

[Devadwal]

Your last line is riddled with delusion, but that’s not surprising coming from someone like you. Hinduism has survived thousands of years of Islamic invasions and is still intact today. Pakistan has fought four wars with India since its formation—not only did they lose all of them, but Hindus still make up 80% of India’s population.

So come down from your bigoted high horse regarding Hinduism as a religion in the event of an all-out war between India and Pakistan. And if you think that if such a war breaks out, the Arab world and the wider Ummah will side with Pakistan and obliterate India and its 80% Hindus, you are highly mistaken. If that were the case, the Ummah would have stopped Israel a long time ago. In fact, your Western Muslim neighbors would spit on your face, let alone supporting you.

In any case, any Ummar or his grandfather will not be able to wipe out Hinduism. Pakistanis like you must understand to keep your religion in your pocket, else you will be taught a lesson. Honestly, I can only laugh at brain-faded individuals like you and the delusions that you carry. The more I read your posts, the more I realize why so many terrorists are so deeply brainwashed.

@Devadwal - Paijaan ki khwahish dekho zara

They are the delusional peoples .. Where was the Ummah when china genocide uyhurea Muslim? They must be sleeping ? .

Btw told these delusional peoples , Focus on Balochistan because they are brink of losing the entire Balochistan .

 

[LordJames]

They are the delusional peoples .most terrorist are Islamic terrorist in the world . Where was the Ummah when china genocide uyhurea Muslim? They must be sleeping ? .

Btw told these delusional peoples , Focus on Balochistan because they are brink of losing the entire Balochistan .

Balochistan is not going anywhere. There is a situation which the wrongful policies of Pakistani military has created and it can be countered

 

[Rajdeep]

No Nation state (Muslim, Arab or otherwise) is likely to fully and overtly support Pakistan in a war against India, I have said this multiple times.

You are stating the opposite of what I am repeatedly saying. What I am saying is that the ultimate outcome of an India-Pakistan war even if both nation states are mutually destroyed is end of Hinduism due to its link with the geography of India.

You have also completely skipped this part of the post because it doesn't suit your narrative.

Many Indian posters on this forum (and elsewhere) argue that India can defeat Pakistan due to its stronger economy and larger military. However, if this logic holds true, then China—being significantly ahead of India in virtually every measurable metric—should also be able to defeat India with ease.

If the counterargument from Indian posters is that, despite China's superiority, India would still resist and inflict damage on China, then by the same logic, Pakistan could also resist and hurt India—regardless of the disparity in capabilities.

Similarly, if the argument is that China has more to lose economically in a war with India, making such a conflict costly for Beijing, then the same reasoning applies to India in a conflict with Pakistan. War would also be economically damaging for India, and it too would have a lot to lose.

Good Luck.

Using multiple font colors won’t fool hardcore debaters like me—so first, stop that. The reason I didn’t respond to the rest of your post is because I actually agree with much of it. If a war were to happen in today’s world, given the current state of geopolitics, it wouldn’t be like 1971, where India could obliterate Pakistan in two days. Both countries are now nuclear powers, and eventually, other nations would step in. The same applies to any potential war between India and China.

In a one-on-one battle, India would likely defeat Pakistan, and China would likely defeat India. However, this isn't a WWE match, and the idea of a pure one-on-one conflict with the rest of the world watching passively is unrealistic.

Don’t worry about Hinduism—it has survived for thousands of years and will continue to do so.

Hum kal bhi the, Aaj bhi hai, Kal bhi Rahenge

Good luck to you too.

 

[Rajdeep]

They are the delusional peoples .most terrorist are Islamic terrorist in the world . Where was the Ummah when china genocide uyhurea Muslim? They must be sleeping ? .

Btw told these delusional peoples , Focus on Balochistan because they are brink of losing the entire Balochistan .

He is easily the most delusional poster here who hide behind lengthy posts using multiple font colours/sizes to make himself look like knowledgeable . Substance wise its that same old thing, Islam will prevail, Hinduism will die etc. Bhai apna religion apne pass rakh yaar.

#OurOwnPaijaan

 

[LordJames]

Using multiple font colors won’t fool hardcore debaters like me—so first, stop that. The reason I didn’t respond to the rest of your post is because I actually agree with much of it. If a war were to happen in today’s world, given the current state of geopolitics, it wouldn’t be like 1971, where India could obliterate Pakistan in two days. Both countries are now nuclear powers, and eventually, other nations would step in. The same applies to any potential war between India and China.

In a one-on-one battle, India would likely defeat Pakistan, and China would likely defeat India. However, this isn't a WWE match, and the idea of a pure one-on-one conflict with the rest of the world watching passively is unrealistic.

Don’t worry about Hinduism—it has survived for thousands of years and will continue to do so.

Hum kal bhi the, Aaj bhi hai, Kal bhi Rahenge

Good luck to you too.

If you are a hardcore debater (and best Hindutva has to offer) then we don't have much to worry about

Phull Sapport, Saar.

 

[Technics 1210]

India fears China because China took Hinduism and created something more respectable out of it; Buddhism, and left India for dust. FACT.

India is metaphor in so many ways. For one, Hindutva is surrounded by Islam and Buddhism.

The cult have no where to run or hide, other than barter their beliefs and identity for a paltry price in the West.

Upcoming Superpower ladies and gentlemen, even India's social and ideological exports have been rejected for 5000 years.

Oh, and China controls parts of Kashmir too.

Yippee!

 

[Justcrazy]

If a full-blown war breaks out and China get involved, I hope China will neutralize India decisively.

India has been a menace to the region. A defeated/weakened/balkanized India is exactly what is required in the region.

Majority of the issues in subcontinent revolves around India.

If there was a full blown war , China is sure to advance , because it knows India cannot handle two frontiers. Also , in that case Bangladesh may also turn more aggressive. If India sends some army units to Bangladesh , in monsoon mobilizing them will be dangerous , because then Pakistan can attack with the air force. Also , keep in mind in order to mobilize the army on multiple fronts you need to access the trucks as well. In Monsoon season you have to look at logistics and transport as well.

 

[straighttalk]

In which delusional world you live, hopefully you are not following any party's WhatsApp university group
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As of 2023, about 2,000 sq km of Indian land has been ceded to China since June 2020. Modi has been criticized for maintaining silence over the territorial loss.In January 2023, a paper presented to the Ministry of Home Affairs, with inputs from Ladakh Police, stated that India had lost access to 26 out of 65 Patrolling Points in eastern Ladakh since June 2020.

I was responding to you or someone saying China is relentless and once they hold land they don't give up. I was pointing out that they did infact gave up land they gained in 1962 and land they captured after Galwan. I didn't say they gave up all the land they gained..but that they vacated land which they captured ...so dnt know Abt your Madrassa education ...must be good..but you and I are talking about two different things...you are saying they captured some land...in saying they returned portion of the said land that they captured...proving that they are not relentless

 

[straighttalk]

Strange how you left out the two most obvious reasons.

1. China would wipe the floor with India.

2. See above.

You do seem to be very smart ..let's ask something ...why isn't your big daddy attacking India and taking over Arunachal Ladakh and Sikkim ....if your theory that they would wipe the floor with India..just why. There are two reasons ..Chinese people are not uncivilized war hungry uneducated jaahils unlike some other countries...and 2. They know that they will lose a lot of people and country if they fight with India ...granted we accept they are a much stronger country than us ....


3. We are not a strategic issue for them .there is Taiwan USA SOUTH China Sea Japan Korea before US.

3. All their strong army and Air Force have massive challenge... Himalayas..and they don't stand a chance if they enter our waters to challenge us in our land.


4. Read about Taiwan crisis and see how China behaved when USA sent its flotilla...


So yes you are right India would be stupid to pick a fight with China but if threatened..China will be bloodied extremely badly and we would perhaps be bloodied more....but what good will j20 do if they can't enter our airspace

 

[straighttalk]

India fears China because China took Hinduism and created something more respectable out of it; Buddhism, and left India for dust. FACT.

India is metaphor in so many ways. For one, Hindutva is surrounded by Islam and Buddhism.

The cult have no where to run or hide, other than barter their beliefs and identity for a paltry price in the West.

Upcoming Superpower ladies and gentlemen, even India's social and ideological exports have been rejected for 5000 years.

Oh, and China controls parts of Kashmir too.

Yippee!

You know how in Cricket you and Bangladesh pray for Australia to beat us... Knowing very well what you can do..it same here..

You know what you can do..so here we have sweepshot cheerleading their master Pakitan and Pakistan cheerleading China...lmao..such a. Defeatist mindset...why not learn from China and build your economy instead of asking for alms bailout and plans....pathetic

 

[straighttalk]

No Nation state (Muslim, Arab or otherwise) is likely to fully and overtly support Pakistan in a war against India, I have said this multiple times.

You are stating the opposite of what I am repeatedly saying. What I am saying is that the ultimate outcome of an India-Pakistan war even if both nation states are mutually destroyed is end of Hinduism due to its link with the geography of India.

You have also completely skipped this part of the post because it doesn't suit your narrative.

Many Indian posters on this forum (and elsewhere) argue that India can defeat Pakistan due to its stronger economy and larger military. However, if this logic holds true, then China—being significantly ahead of India in virtually every measurable metric—should also be able to defeat India with ease.

If the counterargument from Indian posters is that, despite China's superiority, India would still resist and inflict damage on China, then by the same logic, Pakistan could also resist and hurt India—regardless of the disparity in capabilities.

Similarly, if the argument is that China has more to lose economically in a war with India, making such a conflict costly for Beijing, then the same reasoning applies to India in a conflict with Pakistan. War would also be economically damaging for India, and it too would have a lot to lose.

Good Luck.

Who here is arguing that China is less powerful than India..everyone knows that..so chill .you guys are loser..who knows what you can do and are just driving pleasure from what China will do in your dreams and not what is happening. So chill and reflect how big of a loser you guys are. Its like you get in a bar fight and then get abused and say wait and watch when my 600lb gorilla brother comes . But as all the four wars have showed..the gorilla brother isn't coming for ya

 

[straighttalk]

A question that Rajdeep and many delusional Indians avoid --> How can they protect themselves from 130+ nukes that Pakistan possess? What kind of defense mechanism do they have other than bunkers?

The way I see it:
India is likely to turn into a radioactive piece of land if a full-blown war breaks out with Pakistan.
India is likely to turn into a parking lot if a full-blown war breaks out with China.

Same way Pak and China protects itself from our 170 plus nukes...but you Razakar lor should think what will happen if we decide to fart on Bangladesh

 

[globetrotter]

Peoples across the border of India are living under false propaganda… couple of years back China army battalion entered Indian border unauthorisedly, India army kicked the out of our territory. USA behind us and also our old and forever friend Russia always stand with us. China will never go against Russia

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You do seem to be very smart ..let's ask something ...why isn't your big daddy attacking India and taking over Arunachal Ladakh and Sikkim ....if your theory that they would wipe the floor with India..just why. There are two reasons ..Chinese people are not uncivilized war hungry uneducated jaahils unlike some other countries...and 2. They know that they will lose a lot of people and country if they fight with India ...granted we accept they are a much stronger country than us ....


3. We are not a strategic issue for them .there is Taiwan USA SOUTH China Sea Japan Korea before US.

3. All their strong army and Air Force have massive challenge... Himalayas..and they don't stand a chance if they enter our waters to challenge us in our land.


4. Read about Taiwan crisis and see how China behaved when USA sent its flotilla...


So yes you are right India would be stupid to pick a fight with China but if threatened..China will be bloodied extremely badly and we would perhaps be bloodied more....but what good will j20 do if they can't enter our airspace

Why would China want to take over Arunachal Ladakh and Sikkim? Is that Chinese territory that India has taken from China?

 

[sweep_shot]

Why would China want to take over Arunachal Ladakh and Sikkim? Is that Chinese territory that India has taken from China?

I don't know why Arunachal Pradesh went with India in the first place. People over there look Chinese. They don't look Indians.