[VIDEO] Shaheen Shah Afridi - continues to impress - every time he bowls!

[MenInG]

Look at where he got Rory Burns!

Shaheen Shah Afridi - star for Pakistan in the World Cup in 2019 in England and looks a million dollars once again.

What lies for him in the future? How good can he become?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

What a cricketer

 

[Ab Fan]

Impressive really. I have been saying this from that NZ ODI series.

 

[sweep_shot]

He has set the tone today. Got rid of Burns in the very first over.

Great bowler.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

He has been down on pace and along with naseem has not bowled to potential so far. Definitely short of match practice.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan's most reliable bowler. His improvement shows his drive and willingness to improve. The fact he can swing it in both directions at will has made him the complete bowler unlike Amir who only bowls inswing and full to the right hander and Wahab who just pushes it across the right hander in a one dimensional fashion.

 

[aloo paratha]

ATG material. Needs to keep working hard.

 

[NauV]

Fantastic bowler! Fantastic prospect . . and the best thing is he is clearly willing to learn! I don't remember him swinging the ball back in . . he has learned that recently!

One clear area of improvement is his patience and temperament in my opinion! Not going to get a wicket every ball . . coming around the wicket, then back over, then around . . don't see any good left armers doing that! Once the ball stops swinging, they work the angles and lengths (which Shaheen should have an advantage on due to his height) . . Go around the wicket when nothing is happening or you're getting the ball to reverse . . Patience is key in test cricket . . I am sure he will come around there as well!

But, I think as long as he keeps working hard and keeps his feet on the ground . . big future for him!

 

[shamaan]

He has been down on pace and along with naseem has not bowled to potential so far. Definitely short of match practice.

Naseem has been down on pace hes bowling at 89mph.

If you want to talk about being down on pace look at archer

 

[Shazzam]

He is easily the best fast bowler we have currently.

 

[kingusama92]

Him and Naseem are high-quality young bowlers.

Pakistan is lucky to have them both around the same age ensuring their peaks will arrive at the same time (if they're developed properly).

You can see how having guys like this changes the dynamics of your final XI.

 

[Major]

Him and Naseem are high-quality young bowlers.

Pakistan is lucky to have them both around the same age ensuring their peaks will arrive at the same time (if they're developed properly).

You can see how having guys like this changes the dynamics of your final XI.

I doubt naseem will last. He is very injury prone, has had a few injuries until now.

Lets see if he can save or use his body well. But to be very honest i think he will be dropped eventually due to an injury cause of his small body and that action and bowling speed of his

 

[Usman Chadda]

I doubt naseem will last. He is very injury prone, has had a few injuries until now.

Lets see if he can save or use his body well. But to be very honest i think he will be dropped eventually due to an injury cause of his small body and that action and bowling speed of his

Which is why PCB/team management should take care of Naseem Shah, and not run him into the ground. He has the potential to be a high quality test-class pace bowler, and he needs proper guidance.

 

[Mueez]

Shaheen is just so good.

 

[Saj]

Wasim Akram earlier saying he shouldn't overdo the bowling round the wicket too early in the innings.

 

[Major]

Which is why PCB/team management should take care of Naseem Shah, and not run him into the ground. He has the potential to be a high quality test-class pace bowler, and he needs proper guidance.

I dont understand what people mean by pcb should take care of so and so.
That would mean modifying the action into something thay doesnt put too much stress on the body. And posters and fans dont like that, cause bowlers lose pace that way.

If you rest him in series, than thats now beneficial for pakistan. Even during the psl when he was not fully fit but was still being played, people were angry why quetta was playing him. Quetta did at the end of the bought the player to be played.
In that case i wonder if pcb could intervene or not.

Point being, eventually you will have to play him and when he does play he looks fragile and could break anytime. You cant shield someone without making modifications.

If naseem continues to generate this pace with this body, i doubt he will last long in cricket. Once hes injured, pakistan team will choose some other u19 star or someone else from domestic. He would be long gone.

He will have to modify his action to survive in this game. You can play domestic for 15 years atleast if you dont get injured.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I dont understand what people mean by pcb should take care of so and so.
That would mean modifying the action into something thay doesnt put too much stress on the body. And posters and fans dont like that, cause bowlers lose pace that way.

If you rest him in series, than thats now beneficial for pakistan. Even during the psl when he was not fully fit but was still being played, people were angry why quetta was playing him. Quetta did at the end of the bought the player to be played.
In that case i wonder if pcb could intervene or not.

Point being, eventually you will have to play him and when he does play he looks fragile and could break anytime. You cant shield someone without making modifications.

If naseem continues to generate this pace with this body, i doubt he will last long in cricket. Once hes injured, pakistan team will choose some other u19 star or someone else from domestic. He would be long gone.

He will have to modify his action to survive in this game. You can play domestic for 15 years atleast if you dont get injured.

Simple - don't run him into the ground. Which is why I believe the likes of Hasnain and Musa are being developed for Test cricket, even though they are nowhere near the level of either Shaheen or Naseem.

 

[Local.Dada]

This guy is genuinely someone who deserves the hype he gets here. Pak fans and I will admit Our fans as well tend to Overhype any youngster with some talent but this guy is truly deserving of that.

While Naseem Shah might have potential, if you read posts here seems he picked 100 wickets in 10 tests already.

On the other hand a guy like Abbas is ignored because he is considered a trundler here.

 

[Third Man]

I dont understand what people mean by pcb should take care of so and so.
That would mean modifying the action into something thay doesnt put too much stress on the body. And posters and fans dont like that, cause bowlers lose pace that way.

If you rest him in series, than thats now beneficial for pakistan. Even during the psl when he was not fully fit but was still being played, people were angry why quetta was playing him. Quetta did at the end of the bought the player to be played.
In that case i wonder if pcb could intervene or not.

Point being, eventually you will have to play him and when he does play he looks fragile and could break anytime. You cant shield someone without making modifications.

If naseem continues to generate this pace with this body, i doubt he will last long in cricket. Once hes injured, pakistan team will choose some other u19 star or someone else from domestic. He would be long gone.

He will have to modify his action to survive in this game. You can play domestic for 15 years atleast if you dont get injured.

Look at this biomechanics expert. What's wrong with Naseem's body and action? Everything's been fairly effortless so far. Fast bowlers will get injured from time to time and that's where good fitness regimen and workload management come in. Enough with these alarmist armchair theories.

 

[Ismailtoca]

Look at this biomechanics expert. What's wrong with Naseem's body and action? Everything's been fairly effortless so far. Fast bowlers will get injured from time to time and that's where good fitness regimen and workload management come in. Enough with these alarmist armchair theories.

holding on TV loved Naseem's body/action. He twists both his upper and lower body - which means the chance to injury is reduced.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Look at this biomechanics expert. What's wrong with Naseem's body and action? Everything's been fairly effortless so far. Fast bowlers will get injured from time to time and that's where good fitness regimen and workload management come in. Enough with these alarmist armchair theories.

He's got no idea what he is talking about. Dude thinks that a side-on action causes injuries.
Naseem's back troubles were a result of a mixed action which he has gotten rid of now. I will do a post on that, to explain some of the lesser informed people around here.

 

[Mamoon]

Clearly the best pacer in the country at the moment. Along with Babar, he is the only good thing about Pakistan cricket these days.

 

[shamaan]

Clearly the best pacer in the country at the moment. Along with Babar, he is the only good thing about Pakistan cricket these days.

Better than archer

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Naseem has been down on pace hes bowling at 89mph.

If you want to talk about being down on pace look at archer

Archer's is a well known case now. I have already commented about his struggles as far as sustaining is pace is concerned.
However, naseem seemed to be off rhythm in the spell he bowled.
He usually maxes out at 148,149 and gets swing both ways. All these were missing. Also his control over length wasn't there.
Hopefully, it will come back the more he bowls.

 

[shamaan]

Archer's is a well known case now. I have already commented about his struggles as far as sustaining is pace is concerned.
However, naseem seemed to be off rhythm in the spell he bowled.
He usually maxes out at 148,149 and gets swing both ways. All these were missing. Also his control over length wasn't there.
Hopefully, it will come back the more he bowls.

Max 148 in t20s or odis dont think we can expect him to bowl that fast maybe odd delivery or 2 if he bowls 88 89 I'd be happy with that.

Yes he struggled for rhythm but thier was no swing after about 10 overs shaheen moved it abit but wr gotta remember hes raw he will bowl world class spells but also few not so need to be patience like archer fans r

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Max 148 in t20s or odis dont think we can expect him to bowl that fast maybe odd delivery or 2 if he bowls 88 89 I'd be happy with that.

Yes he struggled for rhythm but thier was no swing after about 10 overs shaheen moved it abit but wr gotta remember hes raw he will bowl world class spells but also few not so need to be patience like archer fans r

Dude, I have got all the patience for him. I rate him very highly, but he didnt bowl well, given the ability he has. Just merely pointing that out. We can put it down to nerves, lack of match practice or just trying to strive.
I really want him to use this tour to announce himself like Amir did in 2010, although not completely like Amir of 2010, if you know what i mean.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Max 148 in t20s or odis dont think we can expect him to bowl that fast maybe odd delivery or 2 if he bowls 88 89 I'd be happy with that.

Yes he struggled for rhythm but thier was no swing after about 10 overs shaheen moved it abit but wr gotta remember hes raw he will bowl world class spells but also few not so need to be patience like archer fans r

and yes, he does get up to 147/148 even in tests.
He lacked speed in his run up today. That just shows he was lacking rhythm

 

[shamaan]

and yes, he does get up to 147/148 even in tests.
He lacked speed in his run up today. That just shows he was lacking rhythm

Good stuff

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

and yes, he does get up to 147/148 even in tests.
He lacked speed in his run up today. That just shows he was lacking rhythm

It would be a waste if he bowls that fast with that height anyway. should bowl in mid to high 130s. With his height, bowling 90miles means he'll be too good for batsmen to get a nick. So he should bowl 85-86 to get those nicks.

 

[The Viper]

Guys keep the discussion just on Shaheen please, you can use other threads to discuss Naseem.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Wasim Akram earlier saying he shouldn't overdo the bowling round the wicket too early in the innings.

He started doing that too early in his spell especially only in his 4th or 5th over where he was being driven down the ground comfortably. Even I was quite surprised to see so quick the change of angle.

Wasim was right as it's just too early for him to do so unless he's making the ball to go away from them as in outswing but he was just getting it to shape back in which was easy to play from round the wicket.

 

[Junaids]

He's got no idea what he is talking about. Dude thinks that a side-on action causes injuries.
Naseem's back troubles were a result of a mixed action which he has gotten rid of now. I will do a post on that, to explain some of the lesser informed people around here.

Great post.

We have had decades of successful, fit side-on bowlers.

By the way, every time I watch Shaheen Shah Afridi bowl with a red ball I think "this is what you would get if you transplanted a brain into Mitchell Starc's empty head".

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

one of the future greats... if he can sustain his fitness and hunger, should have 400 test wickets minimum.

 

[MenInG]

And they love him in the Pakistan team!

 

[Bhaijaan]

Years and years if watching Cricket has made.me understand that one must never judge quality of a fast bowler based on performances in England. Full respect to SSA but tougher tests await in other less friendly conditions.

The Duke ball, the overcast conditions, the whole vibe of playing test cricket in England. A fast bowler cannot ask for more.

No doubt he has the potential to be a great. We wish him well.

 

[Grunge101]

I dont think his rhythm was there yesterday.. He bowled decent lines and lengths but he wasnt at his best. Quite a bit down on pace too, he should be around the 85 to 90 mph range instead of 80 to 85...
Hes easily our best bowler right now. Decent control and skill at such a young age

 

[shaz619]

And they love him in the Pakistan team!

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I imagine Shahid is his hero ? whatever the view on Shahid he must mean a lot to the pakistani pathans especially

 

[shaz619]

What I found most impressive was his control even after the ball stopped doing a bit and the consistent / persistent line/length but I agree with Wasim he doesn't need to come over the wicket if things are not happening especially so early in the innings, it reduces the chances for new ball lateral movement

 

[topspin]

My favourite player in the team. I don't care how he uses TikTok as long as he continues to bowl like this.

 

[Slim]

I have been his huge supporter and am proud to be so. Pakistan's best bowler and the best young fast bowler in the world. A player with proper ATG potential and one of the hardest working cricketers out there. He has the talent, ability, height, passion and looks. Proper package. Needs to add a bit more of badmashi like Shabby bhai tho, in all seriousness, i saw Shoaib bowling to Langer that day and his body language was like of a Lion.

 

[Slim]

I have been his huge supporter and am proud to be so. Pakistan's best bowler and the best young fast bowler in the world. A player with proper ATG potential and one of the hardest working cricketers out there. He has the talent, ability, height, passion and looks. Proper package. Needs to add a bit more of badmashi like Shabby bhai tho, in all seriousness, i saw Shoaib bowling to Langer that day and his body language was like of a Lion.

[MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] bhai, your views?

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Significantly down on pace. Not as natural a bowler like Naseem, which is why he will need some more mileage under his legs.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Amazing bowler. Decent batsman too. Can defo average 15+ I think.

 

[Manunited18]

Shaheen looks short of a gallop

 

[Grunge101]

Yup, like yesterday, the rhythm isnt there. Hes down on pace, the ball has no real bite, doesnt look threatening at the moment

 

[ChTab]

Would love to see him bowlin NZ, imagine the problems he will create for batters

 

[MenInG]

pitching it up - looking good but no wickets so far.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Absolutely unplayable delivery to get Pope

 

[Saj]

He rarely gives any freebies.

Knows the areas he needs to bowl and is learning so quickly.

A gem of a bowler.

 

[MenInG]

Pope didnt know what hit him

 

[The Viper]

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[Usman Chadda]

Rubbish bowling to Woakes. Long way to go before he is even decent, forget world-class, like so many put it.

Go after him and he loses his mind.

 

[Grunge101]

Pretty unimpressive this whole match. Hes still our best bowler but a really stale performance.

 

[PakFan2010]

Overrated.

Nowhere near the level of Wahab Riaz.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

He's young. He will learn. Cut him some slack.

 

[ShahidDar08]

Ordinary performance in this match

 

[Kingpin786]

Except the first spell of match he was toothless

 

[Majid Khan]

Even with the new ball in this desperate situation where a fast bowlers gives it his all with the last throw of then dice Shaheen just clocked two balls at 79mph and 80mph and then follows up with a no ball, and then a boundary.

I’ve never rated Shaheen as highly as others to be honest , he’s at best going to end up with career bowling stats like those of Umar Gul unless he really works hard on his game.

 

[hitthestump]

Knives already out for Shaheen.

Not sure he asked to be the leader of the Pakistan bowling attack at age 20 with hardly any experience behind him. Ideally him and Naseem would be the 4th/5th option right now.

It's the fans own fault for hyping him up so much. He could potentially be great but all this pressure will probably drag him down before he gets to realise his potential.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Years and years if watching Cricket has made.me understand that one must never judge quality of a fast bowler based on performances in England. Full respect to SSA but tougher tests await in other less friendly conditions.

The Duke ball, the overcast conditions, the whole vibe of playing test cricket in England. A fast bowler cannot ask for more.

No doubt he has the potential to be a great. We wish him well.

Has a lot to prove as a test bowler

 

[Abdullah719]

Even with the new ball in this desperate situation where a fast bowlers gives it his all with the last throw of then dice Shaheen just clocked two balls at 79mph and 80mph and then follows up with a no ball, and then a boundary.

I’ve never rated Shaheen as highly as others to be honest , he’s at best going to end up with career bowling stats like those of Umar Gul unless he really works hard on his game.

Harsh. He was consistently bowling 140kph+ in Australia, PSL, and the home Tests. Clearly not regained his rhythm just yet. He was bowling really well since the World Cup.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Knives already out for Shaheen.

Not sure he asked to be the leader of the Pakistan bowling attack at age 20 with hardly any experience behind him. Ideally him and Naseem would be the 4th/5th option right now.

It's the fans own fault for hyping him up so much. He could potentially be great but all this pressure will probably drag him down before he gets to realise his potential.

No one is blasting him on that. The way he bowled to Woakes, in the face of some aggression, is downright dumb. He loses the plot too many times once hes attacked. This is not the sign of a world-class bowler, which he has all the ingredients to be. Not even ONE short ball to Woakes, a guy who got banged in the head in the first innings on his third ball. It was all half-volley after half-volley, when the mediocre batsman is ready for exactly that delivery with an open stance and an exposed leg-stump.

Had he bowled well and got hit, we wouldnt be laying into him right now. But two years of international cricket, and you still bowl like an absolute numpty, that's just not good enough.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Sorry,but I don't see no Wasim Akram.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

No one is blasting him on that. The way he bowled to Woakes, in the face of some aggression, is downright dumb. He loses the plot too many times once hes attacked. This is not the sign of a world-class bowler, which he has all the ingredients to be. Not even ONE short ball to Woakes, a guy who got banged in the head in the first innings on his third ball. It was all half-volley after half-volley, when the mediocre batsman is ready for exactly that delivery with an open stance and an exposed leg-stump.

Had he bowled well and got hit, we wouldnt be laying into him right now. But two years of international cricket, and you still bowl like an absolute numpty, that's just not good enough.

It wasn't just afridis fault
Butler and woakes led one of the best counter attacks since the rumble in the jungle
Afridi is not ready to be the leader of the pack yet but he tried to give his all. Cant blame him for any lack of effort

 

[Abdullah719]

No one is blasting him on that. The way he bowled to Woakes, in the face of some aggression, is downright dumb. He loses the plot too many times once hes attacked. This is not the sign of a world-class bowler, which he has all the ingredients to be. Not even ONE short ball to Woakes, a guy who got banged in the head in the first innings on his third ball. It was all half-volley after half-volley, when the mediocre batsman is ready for exactly that delivery with an open stance and an exposed leg-stump.

Had he bowled well and got hit, we wouldnt be laying into him right now. But two years of international cricket, and you still bowl like an absolute numpty, that’s just not good enough.

Very few bowlers are world-class at 20.

 

[Usman Chadda]

It wasn't just afridis fault
Butler and woakes led one of the best counter attacks since the rumble in the jungle
Afridi is not ready to be the leader of the pack yet but he tried to give his all. Cant blame him for any lack of effort

Is giving his all bowling half-volley after half-volley to a guy who is exactly set up for that kind of bowling? Where were the short balls? Where was the plan? Woakes took him on knowing full well what Shaheen was trying to do, and this dumb pacer was not good enough to adjust to that.

I'm fairly certain Shaheen has this massive ego thay just wants to blast the batsman doing the same thing thats getting him smashed, rather than go to Plan B and trust his skills to do something different.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Is giving his all bowling half-volley after half-volley to a guy who is exactly set up for that kind of bowling? Where were the short balls? Where was the plan? Woakes took him on knowing full well what Shaheen was trying to do, and this dumb pacer was not good enough to adjust to that.

I'm fairly certain Shaheen has this massive ego thay just wants to blast the batsman doing the same thing thats getting him smashed, rather than go to Plan B and trust his skills to do something different.

That's where you need someone to have a word in his ear but with him being the leader of the pack that didn't happen
Either abbas needs to have more of an output or we need to bring in sohail khan or even Haris rauf whose in his mid 20s

 

[Matty]

Dont really rate this guy

Abbas is the bowler who is the main threat

 

[shah_1]

Around the wicket to woakes at the start was the most baffling decision. He loves to drive, over the wicket and angling the ball away would have been perfect

 

[shah_1]

Around the wicket to woakes at the start was the most baffling decision. He loves to drive, over the wicket and angling the ball away would have been perfect

Unless you can bowl conventional/reverse swing like Wasim Akram, or bowl 150kph, I am not really a fan of left arm bowlers bowling around the wicket to right handers

 

[Usman Chadda]

Around the wicket to woakes at the start was the most baffling decision. He loves to drive, over the wicket and angling the ball away would have been perfect

This.

Before doing this, should have tried to set him up with a few short deliveries and pushed Woakes back. What we saw was an embarrassment.

 

[ethan hunt]

He has limitations. Very few left arm fast bowlers end up having great test careers,
That over the wicket angle is just stupid when you don't have the abilityto move the ball away from the right handers at that angle.

A lot to learn for him.

 

[shah_1]

He is not a 23 average bowler imo, will mostly range around 28 to 29

 

[Abdullah719]

Around the wicket to woakes at the start was the most baffling decision. He loves to drive, over the wicket and angling the ball away would have been perfect

What homework did the management do? Surely there were some tactics in place that the bowlers were utilizing.

 

[afridi999]

Absolutely garbage test bowler

 

[shah_1]

What homework did the management do? Surely there were some tactics in place that the bowlers were utilizing.

Shaheen is obsessed with bowling around the wicket yet he is ineffective. The wicket of Pope was due to extra bounce.

 

[Abid Z]

He is Pakistan’s best pacer. But he’s pretty mediocre. I’d say 5 or 6 out of ten. He reminds me of a very early Starc. Completely one dimensional just running in and throwing the ball. I know he’s young and inexperienced and will hopefully improve as he plays more. We thought the same of junaid.

The reason why he is 5/6 is because he can jag the new ball back into the rhb from otw otherwise he’d only be 3 or 4 out of ten. . This is useful but not nearly as useful as being able to move the new ball away from rhb and then also bring it in while hitting a good length. If he can move old ball both ways then he’s almost as good as that other great subcontinental left armer..wots his name ...chaminda Vaasa. He has such a distance to travel in his learning that I wonder wth coaches are doing. He’s been around for a while now and should have developed much more than this. He is in uk bowling under cloudy skies. This should be his amir 2010 moment but I fear he will fizzle out by the end of the series more like junaid or mhd irfan. But there is no better pacer in the squad so I guess he will stay.

I fear our ability to take 20 wickets.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Knives already out for Shaheen.

Not sure he asked to be the leader of the Pakistan bowling attack at age 20 with hardly any experience behind him. Ideally him and Naseem would be the 4th/5th option right now.

It's the fans own fault for hyping him up so much. He could potentially be great but all this pressure will probably drag him down before he gets to realise his potential.

He is Pakistan’s best pacer. But he’s pretty mediocre. I’d say 5 or 6 out of ten. He reminds me of a very early Starc. Completely one dimensional just running in and throwing the ball. I know he’s young and inexperienced and will hopefully improve as he plays more. We thought the same of junaid.

The reason why he is 5/6 is because he can jag the new ball back into the rhb from otw otherwise he’d only be 3 or 4 out of ten. . This is useful but not nearly as useful as being able to move the new ball away from rhb and then also bring it in while hitting a good length. If he can move old ball both ways then he’s almost as good as that other great subcontinental left armer..wots his name ...chaminda Vaasa. He has such a distance to travel in his learning that I wonder wth coaches are doing. He’s been around for a while now and should have developed much more than this. He is in uk bowling under cloudy skies. This should be his amir 2010 moment but I fear he will fizzle out by the end of the series more like junaid or mhd irfan. But there is no better pacer in the squad so I guess he will stay.

I fear our ability to take 20 wickets.

Talk about pessimism.

 

[Mueez]

Can’t believe people are criticizing our most reliable bowler since two years.

You all deserve the likes of Rahat, Ehsan Adil etc.

 

[Saj]

He did well.

He will have learnt a lot from this match.

Yes he could have bowled a bit better today, but can't fault his effort really.