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[VIDEO] "There's a close resemblance between a young Starc and Shaheen Shah Afridi" : Mickey Arthur

Mickey Arthur at a presser after PZ beat KK in Eliminator 2 of PSL 2018:

"Don't think you can blame those two batters in isolation, I thought they played well but we were chasing 20 too many."

"I thought we bowled well in the first four overs but they got the momentum after Shinwari's over. Amir bowled his four overs for just 16 and did a really good job."

"We had to get 8 overs out of the 2 spinners and Ravi, so we clearly missed Afridi and Imad today. You put them in there and it looks like a pretty useful bowling unit."

"Kamran Akmal player very well today. To play international cricket, you've got to do well in three different disciplines. He's batted outstandingly and is a really good batsman. But the same thing as last time, where does he field? Sarfaraz is the keeper. He was poor in the field in West Indies and I'm not sure too much has changed."

"There's no conflict of interest, I work with young Pakistan players and have seen young players come through."

"We've batted first the whole competition but we fielded first because there was some rain expected later. We would have been in control had that happened and I think Zalmi would've done the same."

"You can't look into a crystal ball and know when a batsman is and isn't going to get out. We knew the top five batsmen would have to take the game deep. Joe and Babar played well. We probably didn't, and couldn't accelerate at the end and the bowling was particularly good. Had we bowled and kept to our plans, we would've been chasing 20 less."

"Hasan Mohsin was close to playing the last game against Islamabad. In terms of our emerging player, we went with Irfan jr and he turned it some fairly good performances earlier in the competition. We tried to back him and stay consistent with selections. I think we were ravaged by injuries, the injuries to Afridi and Imad are massive. When we sat down and made plans, we picked them to control the middle over and for Imad to bowl a couple of overs in the powerplay so we lost two massive international players and that scuppered our plans a bit."

"I wanted to give Mohammad Amir some responsibility. I think part of the PSL is about producing Pakistan cricketers and part of it is about producing Pakistani leaders. By giving Amir an opportunity, I felt we gave an opportunity to another Pakistani player to lead a team and perhaps we'd find something there in terms of his character that we can take forward."

"One of the reasons I'm coaching a PSL team is that I get to see good youngsters at very close quarters. I thought Hussain Talat played some very good innings. Asif Ali has shown to be a very explosive hitter and we need to take a closer look at him. Agha Salman I thought played very well for Lahore."

"That's besides the massive talent of Shaheen. I think he's going to be a very good bowler and he's a guy we need to get into our emerging system so that we can work hard with him. If we can put a couple of years into him, he is going to be very exceptional. I had the privilege of seeing Mitchell Starc when he was very young and there is a very close resemblance between the two of them. Shaheen just needs the right guidance and training and he's going to be a star."

"I've never seen Mukhtar play before today and the intelligence that I got from the team was that he was the right option today."
 
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I can honestly see where he is coming from here. Nothing about unnecessary hype.

I hope Shaheen Shah starts bowling 150-155ks by the time he is 20
 
The best part is he has highlighted the emerging performers from this PSL. Mickey needs to be involved to have a good hard luck at some of these lads. Hussain Talat is sure to make a debut for Pakistan very soon.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur regarding Shaheen Shah Afridi "I had the privilege of seeing Mitchell Starc when he was very young and there is a very close resemblance between the two of them. Shaheen just needs the right guidance and training and he's going to be a star" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/k56GK0KXDy">pic.twitter.com/k56GK0KXDy</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/976572375507570688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Hope he commentates during the final. Always interesting to hear Mickey's thoughts.
 
Hope he commentates during the final. Always interesting to hear Mickey's thoughts.

It be like listening to a hypothetical ATG match.

"There is Starc bowling to Tendulkar...it's in the air...aand Klusner takes the catch!"

"And it looks like Kohli is coming to bat next"

:ma
 
On the serious side, I hope he does commentate. It's always intersting listening to his thoughts.
 
What do we think he means by emerging system? And what should the plan be for young Shaheen?
I understand he has a BPL contract, and Big Bash teams are interested in him. I also saw reports that he may be working with MCC. Can Saj confirm this?

I personally think he should go to BPL, Big Bash, and PSL, but should prioritise the work with the MCC, and perhaps try to get a county contract, even if it means playing in Division 2, or playing for a 2nd XI.
Can't believe that Yasir Jan managed a stint with them, when there were people much more deserving of the opportunity...
 
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It's apparent because Sarfraz has the Wicket keeper slot locked down, Mickey is not going to approve of Kamran's selection.
 
Very good comments from Mickey, I like his big picture approach which is very different from local coaches who only think short term wise. Also like the fact that he mentioned that PSL is also about developing Pakistani young talent and leaders.
 
PAK team's stock is hiking with every day. More or less, in his 25 years of coaching career, whatever Mickey has seen (& being impressed with) present in his current team (by potential) - Tendulkar, Kohli, Klusner, Strac .......... only needs a Warne & Gilchrist. Shadab is there; only had Kamran been 15 years younger .....
 
It's apparent because Sarfraz has the Wicket keeper slot locked down, Mickey is not going to approve of Kamran's selection.

I think Sarfraz is good enough to get in as a batsman into this team really. Has played more matchwinning, clutch knocks than the other two despite shifting around in position in recent years.

Even if Kamran did keep and say Sarfraz didn't captain, I still wouldn't drop Sarfraz. Sarfraz just needs to bat up the order that's all, 4 or 5 really.
 
PAK team's stock is hiking with every day. More or less, in his 25 years of coaching career, whatever Mickey has seen (& being impressed with) present in his current team (by potential) - Tendulkar, Kohli, Klusner, Strac .......... only needs a Warne & Gilchrist. Shadab is there; only had Kamran been 15 years younger .....

Even if Kami had just lost his belly and become agile he could have had a chance. That's the only thing Mickey asks of him besides some hitting here and there in T20.
 
Even if Kami had just lost his belly and become agile he could have had a chance. That's the only thing Mickey asks of him besides some hitting here and there in T20.

Kamran is a very poor keeper. And on International standards you will do much worse than what you are doing in a t20 tournament. Sarfraz doesn't take PSL seriously because he is the captain of all 3 formats and is playing cricket much more frequently than Kami is. Kamran might do well in the shorter formats, his keeping/ground fielding will always be the issue at the International level
 
I think Sarfraz is good enough to get in as a batsman into this team really. Has played more matchwinning, clutch knocks than the other two despite shifting around in position in recent years.

Even if Kamran did keep and say Sarfraz didn't captain, I still wouldn't drop Sarfraz. Sarfraz just needs to bat up the order that's all, 4 or 5 really.

I do agree that Sarfraz can make the team as a batsman. He does need to perform more on the international circuit though. At the very least kamran should make the team as a backup keeper. I say keep Sarfraz as captain and wicket keeper, give Kakmal a go as an opener and see whether he has worked on his fielding.
 
I think Sarfraz is good enough to get in as a batsman into this team really. Has played more matchwinning, clutch knocks than the other two despite shifting around in position in recent years.

Even if Kamran did keep and say Sarfraz didn't captain, I still wouldn't drop Sarfraz. Sarfraz just needs to bat up the order that's all, 4 or 5 really.

What exactly Sarfraz has done as a batsman?? - He is a terrible player of pace bowling, even in PSL he cannot boss the pace. 3 PSLs, how many matches are won by Sarfraz?? Forget about Pakistan.

He cannot bat at 5,6 because he cannot boss the seamers, same reason he cannot bat at 1,2,3. What is left there, hardly 4. He is not well rounded batsman. If our standard is Azhar, Sarfraz, Hafeez, Malik, even Babar, we will never break into top 4. They are all pathetic and sarfraz is not the best one among this lot. He is below Malik and Hafeez in banging even spinners, pacers non of them can handle :facepalm:
 
Babar is Sachin, Ashraf is stokes and Shaheen is Starc.

Pak to dominate cricket for the next 10 yrs.
 
Kami against express pace is a walking wicket, teams like Australia, New Zealand, SA and England usually get him out in the first few overs flashing outside off or pulling
 
Love Mickey.

Good comments.

Very impressed with the move of giving Amir the captain's armband.
 
Good comments but he could have avoided the comparisons between Shaheen and Starc. I am kind of surprised that Arthur does is so often with all the players in the Pakistan team.
 
Very impressed with Shaheen Shah Afridi’s performance so far. You can tell a star when you see one. This kid is special and will be key for Pakistan’s 2019 World Cup campaign.
Solid XI

Fakhr
Farhan
Babar
Harris
Sarfaraz
Talat
Faheem
Shadab
Amir
Hassan Ali
Shaheen
 
He has compared a young Shaheen with a young Starc when he was a nobody. To be honest, I get the same vibe watching Shaheen bowl. If groomed properly, he can be a very good bowler.
 
A young Starc is a good comparison.

At the time, Starc was touching 143 KPH and still working on his craft. Over time, he got stronger and refined his action causing him to touch the speeds he does now.

He's a solid role model for Shaheen.
 
New comparison from :ma

Shaheen Starc Afridi :starc

Let's how this talented youngster lives up to the expectations of coach!
 
PAK team's stock is hiking with every day. More or less, in his 25 years of coaching career, whatever Mickey has seen (& being impressed with) present in his current team (by potential) - Tendulkar, Kohli, Klusner, Strac .......... only needs a Warne & Gilchrist. Shadab is there; only had Kamran been 15 years younger .....

Just curious question ..was :ma was always like this comparing youngsters to greats in coaching stints.

Is it new thing :ma started after taking over PAK team? Not followed his career much before ...
 
I think Mickey makes these comparisons just to boost the player's confidence. Nothing wrong with it, honestly.
 
Just stop Shaheen playing this rubbish T20 leagues around the world. A BBL contract will not do him any good. He needs to be playing 4 day cricket day in day out. That's where you learn the art of bowling. That's where he'll develop the stamina to bowl longer spells. That's the place where he will learn how to setup batsmen. In BBL and T20 leagues, all he's going to learn is how to bowl 4 economical overs. What we need is strike bowlers. Please play 4 day cricket all the time and occasional ODI tournaments.
 
Mickey Arthur at a presser after PZ beat KK in Eliminator 2 of PSL 2018:

"One of the reasons I'm coaching a PSL team is that I get to see good youngsters at very close quarters."

He actually meant:

"The major reason I'm coaching a PSL team is so that I can earn as much money as possible. Morals and concepts such as conflict of interest be damned!"
 
I think Mickey makes these comparisons just to boost the player's confidence. Nothing wrong with it, honestly.

well they have almost ALWAYS backfired

Shafiq's been batting like a tailender ever since the comparison was made

Babar has been disappointing since the Kohli comparison was made
 
I think Mickey makes these comparisons just to boost the player's confidence. Nothing wrong with it, honestly.

Totally agree

If he had chastised his players in public, there would be a posse being organized to lynch him
 
well they have almost ALWAYS backfired

Shafiq's been batting like a tailender ever since the comparison was made

Babar has been disappointing since the Kohli comparison was made


He made the Kohli comes after the England tour. Babar scored 3 centuries in 3 games after his Kohli compairson. Try again :))) :)))
 
He made the Kohli comes after the England tour. Babar scored 3 centuries in 3 games after his Kohli compairson. Try again :))) :)))

Please stop lying.

The comments were made in November/December 2016 following on from a 90 in NZ.

Babar went into a prolonged slump after these comments doing jack all in Aus tests

Shame you have to lie
 
PAK team's stock is hiking with every day. More or less, in his 25 years of coaching career, whatever Mickey has seen (& being impressed with) present in his current team (by potential) - Tendulkar, Kohli, Klusner, Strac .......... only needs a Warne & Gilchrist. Shadab is there; only had Kamran been 15 years younger .....

Not a bd way to hype up youngsters so that they are given place in the teamI think Micky is playing mind game??
 
Please stop lying.

The comments were made in November/December 2016 following on from a 90 in NZ.

Babar went into a prolonged slump after these comments doing jack all in Aus tests

Shame you have to lie

To be honest, comparisons can work both ways, some take it as confidence booster and some as burden.

Better to let the youngsters to learn the trade as themselves and achieve something before comparing
to greats. This way youngster will not be getting undue pressure due to high expectations (Umar Akmal, Babar, Faheem etc). Same thing is happening with Hardhik Pandya lot of Indian fans compare him to Kapil :facepalm:

:ma could have said the same thing in team meetings instead of making statements in pressers.

If a particular player doesn't live upto the expectation, he may become target for the undue trolling in social media for not of his fault ..

#JustMyOpinion
 
To be honest, comparisons can work both ways, some take it as confidence booster and some as burden.

Better to let the youngsters to learn the trade as themselves and achieve something before comparing
to greats. This way youngster will not be getting undue pressure due to high expectations (Umar Akmal, Babar, Faheem etc). Same thing is happening with Hardhik Pandya lot of Indian fans compare him to Kapil :facepalm:

:ma could have said the same thing in team meetings instead of making statements in pressers.

If a particular player doesn't live upto the expectation, he may become target for the undue trolling in social media for not of his fault ..

#JustMyOpinion

true. for eg Umar Akmal never compared himself to Sachin but he is butt of all jokes

Ahmed Shehzad is also butt of jokes but he did compare himself multiple times to Kohli, Hayden, Sachin etc so trolling him is justified
 
Fakhar - Warner
Asad - Sachin
Babar - Kohli
Haris
Sarfraz
Malik
Shadab
Faheem - Klusner
Amir - Wasim
Hassan - Waqar
Shaheen - Starc



Wow, that's an ATG team there.
 
true. for eg Umar Akmal never compared himself to Sachin but he is butt of all jokes

Ahmed Shehzad is also butt of jokes but he did compare himself multiple times to Kohli, Hayden, Sachin etc so trolling him is justified

Yea... Some say players won't be affected by social media trolling, thats not completly true.

Even if player avoids social media for good, his family and friends will definitely be affected by such things in public forums !

e.g: Kamran Akmal constant comments to support UA in media.
 
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Not a bd way to hype up youngsters so that they are given place in the teamI think Micky is playing mind game??

He is playing mind game with PP & PAK media - even in BD, coach would have been a laughing stock if he randomly shooted contemporary greats like this. It’s not the reporter of 3 cent tabloid or a key board worrier ......
 
Fakhar - Warner
Asad - Sachin
Babar - Kohli
Haris
Sarfraz
Malik
Shadab
Faheem - Klusner
Amir - Wasim
Hassan - Waqar
Shaheen - Starc



Wow, that's an ATG team there.

Jaques is missing here - uo vi aajayega; Talat hai na.
 
Just curious question ..was :ma was always like this comparing youngsters to greats in coaching stints.

Is it new thing :ma started after taking over PAK team? Not followed his career much before ...

As far I know, it was home work in past...... may be a new thing.

But, it’s been selling well in his new job; only had it worked a bit better. Feeling anxious for the kid, after looking at Asad.
 
As far I know, it was home work in past...... may be a new thing.

But, it’s been selling well in his new job; only had it worked a bit better. Feeling anxious for the kid, after looking at Asad.

Hmm ... Good to know it's working for coach :ma

On topic, as long as comparison doesn't affect growth of Shaheen the young bowler :19:
 
He is playing mind game with PP & PAK media - even in BD, coach would have been a laughing stock if he randomly shooted contemporary greats like this. It’s not the reporter of 3 cent tabloid or a key board worrier ......

Perfect coach we ever had after Woolmer.
 
Perfect coach we ever had after Woolmer.

Indeed a fantastic Coach, but a bit loose mouth when it comes to praising players. Don't think encouragement should come in a way that puts extra pressure on young players. May be, I would have rephrased his words like - "Shahin is an amazing talent and blessed with a befitting physic. He has the potential to reach among the elites of fast bowling - at this point, I would say, his idol should be Strac".
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] we are indebted to him for bringing that fast bowlers jazba back intot his team.It was so dull to watch 4 spinners playing in a country with rich fast bowling hisrtory.
I have to wait when he give us another tests bat like woolmer gave us in the form of Yonus ,Yusuf and late resurge of Inzi.
 
Apart from their physiques, there isn't. Their actions are different and Shaheen's seam presentation is better. Gets more bounce as well because he doesn't drop his arm.
 
I think talent wise he might be there but thats only fraction of the equation. Whether he has grit and determination to learn and execute is yet to be seen that is really what decides how far you go.
 
Clearly needs to do a lot of work before he can really be compared
 
I think the best thing for him would be a county season now. That'll mean that he's in England for the series this summer if needed.
 
Clearly needs to do a lot of work before he can really be compared

to current Starc off course

Everyone forgets though that Micky said a young Starc and in that regard Shaheen is ahead of where starc was at the same age.
 
From what I’ve seen from Afridi’s debut, he has some very little mistakes. His biggest mistake is that he trys to copy Hasan Ali and Faheem Ashraf too much, he is tryin to bowl too many slow balls. Shaheen needs to stop bowling slow balls because he doesn’t need them. He is faster than Hasan Ali and Faheem Ashraf, and he needs to utilize his pace. Shaheen has to bowl more bouncers, but not too many and only at the call of the captain and field sets. Shaheen also needs to work on his yorker which is useful 2-3 balls an over. Afridi is amongst the likes of Amir, Stark, and Hazelwood. Afridi is not amongst the likes of Rumman, Faheem, and Hasan. He has a textbook perfect beautiful run up and action by the way. Afridi needs to get rid of the slow ball.
 
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Indeed a fantastic Coach, but a bit loose mouth when it comes to praising players. Don't think encouragement should come in a way that puts extra pressure on young players. May be, I would have rephrased his words like - "Shahin is an amazing talent and blessed with a befitting physic. He has the potential to reach among the elites of fast bowling - at this point, I would say, his idol should be Strac".

That's what he meant. He gave them an idol and said u are exactly where they were when they were your age. Now it's all up to you whether u can utilize your potential.
 
Starc had that natural vicious inswing in the early stages of his career. Seems to have lost that a bit now, but he has developed other varieties which make him one of the most feared bowlers in the world.

Shaheen relies more on his height and quick arm action to deceive the batsmen. Haven't seen much swing from him. But it's only four overs of a T20 game, so you can't really judge him much on this.
 
Kaali Zabaan Mickey Arthur at it again
 
Shaheen looks very ordinary. Gun barrel straight. No swing, nothing.
 
A Starc with two pulled ham-strings and bowling from wrong hand will still out-bowl pathetic Shaheen.
 
Shaheen has regressed under Azhar Mahmood. That’s all there it is to it!
 
Got owned by the Afgani opener.
Man that was brutal, 5 boundries in an over plus that "chal nikal" gesture. Would have hurt his confidence.
 
But but but we would have defended 280 against Australia 8 out of 10 times if Shaheen was playing.
 
It actually looked so silly when he went to 'talk' to Zazai after getting hit for 3 boundaries. Seriously, he needs to be more mature.
 
Arthur and his visions... In Faheem he sees Klusener. In Babar he sees kohli. In Shaheen he sees Starc..

Mickey Please :shhh:shhh:shhh:shhh and do something productive
 
Azhar Mahmood and Mickey are mouses… good coach should have taken rough diamond polished. the system in Pakistan is corrupt there are better bowler who go waste. ODI Sohail khan better then these fellow. Mohammed Irfan he was pretty good.. oops not Mickey Mouse favorite
 
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