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[VIDEO] Unpopular opinion: let’s not be so quick to assassinate Haris Rauf’s character

i dont know why people making fuss of this? with or without haris we are losing 3-0. Plus after getting a phainty of his life in both asia cup and world its time to drop haris from all formats and look for other options
 
Yeah I generally agree. Rauf also has had that right flank injury a couple of times recently, including when he could not complete his quota of overs against India in the Asia Cup - before that point he was the best bowler in the tournament.
 
He should stick to LOIs. He doesn’t have enough experience to be playing 5 day cricket.

We have made earning a test cap dirt cheap in Pakistan. It used to mean something as it does in Australia, India, England, NZ etc.

Now if you bowl well for 4 overs in a game you get a test cap. Come on now.
 
On this , I agree with Rauf. He has not played much red ball cricket and other than pace , he has no other skill which a fast bowler requires to be successful in test cricket. We all criticized ( most of us ) when he was included in test squad and now he is opting out of test cricket so nothing wrong with that . He still has something to offer in WBC, particularly in T20 and we should use him smartly. Riaz is a nutcase to me.
 
He should be praised actually to stand-up and decline to be the squire peg in a round hole. I don't know how much he can earn from BBL (& BPL if it takes place this year), but for sure he could have played those after travelling with PAK and earn a good money from PCB as well. It's not about money, rather guy understood he is not made for Test cricket and it'll be better for PAK Cricket if it's selectors also understand basic cricket, like not picking an officially 30+ fast bowler with a grand total of 9 FC games (one of them a Test) for AUS tour. Haris should focus completely on white ball - T20 mainly and selectively for ODIs. His skills are with old ball and thumping thunderbolts in 4 overs game, once Naseem returns, PAK's new ball problem could be reduced and Haris can be used for 10 overs of last 30 (In ODIs, competing with Wasim), and the premium T20 bowler for 2/3 separate spells as per need.
 
It’s a fair point, and also, even if it was the way wahab said, there’s no need to go public with it. Creates unnecessary controversy.

The correct thing to do is not to rush to judgement and see what unfolds. Unfortunately though people do rush to judgement and once it’s been revealed like this, it’s very hard to undo that judgement no matter what he says after.
 
I just saw Wahab's press conference.

Wow, he completely threw Rauf under the bus.

It's an interesting topic and I understand Rauf's concerns too. However, this all goes out the window when you're more than happy to go and play PSL matches and various T20 leagues without skipping a single game. Your body doesn't suddenly become superhuman for those formats.

Of course, Rauf shouldn't even be in the Test squad but that's a separate point.
 
kingusama92 said:
I just saw Wahab's press conference.

Wow, he completely threw Rauf under the bus.

It's an interesting topic and I understand Rauf's concerns too. However, this all goes out the window when you're more than happy to go and play PSL matches and various T20 leagues without skipping a single game. Your body doesn't suddenly become superhuman for those formats.

Of course, Rauf shouldn't even be in the Test squad but that's a separate point.
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Wahab did seem legitimately upset about it. I understand transparency, but perhaps he could have left it at Haris was going to be selected but he made himself unavailable.

I understand serving your country, but the horses for courses mantra still holds true. His refusal in Test cricket should not affect his selection in the T20 format where he is an absolutely gun player although I fear with the comment Wahab made about prioritizing players who sacrifice for Pakistan that he won’t select Rauf again.
 
He knows he would be eaten alive and that the entire squad is going to be cursed at after their inevitable failures; he doesn't want to be an apart of that. NGL, it's a smart move on his end because after a historically sh*t World Cup performance and then following that up with getting smashed around all parts for days on end, he would have never been picked to play for Pakistan again. He's only prolonging his career.
 
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Haris wouldn't do well in tests anyway. He will get injured there though.

It's probably the best policy not to play any of our genuine fast bowlers in tests that are automatic selections in LOI. It's the harsh reality of tests fading away, but have to be realistic. A lot of these guys wont even do well in tests, they don't practice it much and bowl in a way suited for LOI.

What we need are slower bowlers who can focus more on tests, who have great control and skill. Find another Abbas or Asif. Or we play someone who's slow and injury free enough that he can play all three formats without too much problems like Hazelwood.

It's funny because Riaz (and Hasan Ali) are examples who were played in tests at the latter part of their career simply because they lost favour in LOI, and the main LOI bowlers didn't want (or were preserved) to play tests.
 
Whilst he should not play Tests he still should have made himself available for selection aslong as he isn't injured.
 
160KPH said:
Wahab did seem legitimately upset about it. I understand transparency, but perhaps he could have left it at Haris was going to be selected but he made himself unavailable.

I understand serving your country, but the horses for courses mantra still holds true. His refusal in Test cricket should not affect his selection in the T20 format where he is an absolutely gun player although I fear with the comment Wahab made about prioritizing players who sacrifice for Pakistan that he won’t select Rauf again.
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Yeah, he really went into the details.

I think one valid point Wahab made was you can't sign a central contract, take the money, and then refuse to play while being 100% fit. It's borderline dishonesty/fraud by the player.

In that way, Haris is completely in the wrong.

I don't think Wahab will drop Haris from the T20 squad because his own job is going to be on the line and Rauf is a top-class T20 bowler. It's pretty much impossible to drop someone of that caliber unless he's injured.
 
Haris Rauf is a T20 player only.....
he should never have played on odi cricket
Not good at all in test cricket....

after the debacle in world cup he should never be picked for Pakistan again in T20s either fullstop
 
kingusama92 said:
Yeah, he really went into the details.

I think one valid point Wahab made was you can't sign a central contract, take the money, and then refuse to play while being 100% fit. It's borderline dishonesty/fraud by the player.

In that way, Haris is completely in the wrong.

I don't think Wahab will drop Haris from the T20 squad because his own job is going to be on the line and Rauf is a top-class T20 bowler. It's pretty much impossible to drop someone of that caliber unless he's injured.
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I did not consider the central contract angle, but that is very true. He should have made himself available in that case and if not should provide an adequate reason. I can imagine that part of it is simply due to overall physical and mental fatigue after having such a horrible ODI WC. Must be damaging to his confidence as well to have played so bad in a format he is not as good at just to be once again thrown into a format he has little experience in.
 
Boycottisno2 said:
Haris Rauf is a T20 player only.....
he should never have played on odi cricket
Not good at all in test cricket....

after the debacle in world cup he should never be picked for Pakistan again in T20s either fullstop
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How is a fast bowler a "T20 player only". This makes no sense. If he can bowl 4 overs, he can bowl 10. If he can bowl 10 overs he can bowl 30.

We need to find new pacers who are 20 years old with ambition to become a world class bowler like Shaheen not accomodating a brainless work shy 30 year old who got compeltely found out in a WC.
 
I agree but Wahab needs to make a stand. Haris is not a test bowler and probably would not have been selected for the playing 11 even if he was part of the squad. But saying you're fatigued but then would be suddenly available for the BBL which takes place when the test team are touring Australia leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Now Haris has the prospect of not having a NOQ for the BBL as he is a contracted player He might then retire from international cricket to play in the T20 leagues like Amir.
 
After a miserable WC, Rauf had no place in test team anyway , and now he is being treated as some kind of Malcolm Marshal or Waqar Younis who is desperately needed by the team he is not willing to go. Leave the poor man alone . Even ODIs are too long a format for him and Wahab wants to make him a test bowler.
 
PakHammer said:
I agree but Wahab needs to make a stand. Haris is not a test bowler and probably would not have been selected for the playing 11 even if he was part of the squad. But saying you're fatigued but then would be suddenly available for the BBL which takes place when the test team are touring Australia leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Now Haris has the prospect of not having a NOQ for the BBL as he is a contracted player He might then retire from international cricket to play in the T20 leagues like Amir.
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Or Like Trent Boults , play for country when they need you and you're available .
 
Its simple, Haris cannot bowl 10 overs in ODIs because of his lack of control. how can he bowl 15 overs in a day? He isn't atest bowler, this is more on Wahab than Haris. Who is their right mind would pick Haris Rauf for tests.
 
It's pretty clear that Wahab holds a grudge against Rauf and even if he offered him a spot in test squad, it was only to ensure that Rauf misses out on BBL this year. I still can't imagine how appointing a 3 months old retired cricketer, who would have friends and foes in the current team, being made the chief selector makes any sense.
 
This is 2023 and this medieval mindset has no place in a setup like PCB.

This guy is not effective at anything more than 4 overs as he has shown time and again and you want him to play a format where he has to bowl 18 overs a day, while hitting a length all day?

Why ruin a T20 bowler by increasing his workload and making him play a format where he is 100 % guaranteed to be a match loser?
 
I don’t understand Pakistani fans. They are even worse than Indian fans.

The recently concluded World Cup showed Haris Rauf doesn’t have the fitness/skills required to even ball 10 overs, all the fans were calling him T20 player.

Now he did the right thing and declared himself unavailable for the test series, still the fans are complaining and calling him traitor.

What’s the point of him playing in the test series when his fitness/skill levels are not fit to play tests?

He would have made Pakistan lose the test series single handedly by being 1 bowler short.

Haris Rauf did the right thing here and fans should appreciate him for not hogging on to a place in test team without the skills required.
 
big_gamer007 said:
I don’t understand Pakistani fans. They are even worse than Indian fans.

The recently concluded World Cup showed Haris Rauf doesn’t have the fitness/skills required to even ball 10 overs, all the fans were calling him T20 player.

Now he did the right thing and declared himself unavailable for the test series, still the fans are complaining and calling him traitor.

What’s the point of him playing in the test series when his fitness/skill levels are not fit to play tests?

He would have made Pakistan lose the test series single handedly by being 1 bowler short.

Haris Rauf did the right thing here and fans should appreciate him for not hogging on to a place in test team without the skills required.
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I disagree.

One day you will need him in the right format and he will act up again. Then we will wonder why he's doing so and it will be because he got away with it before.

Or perhaps another player will look at this and do the same. Maybe someone like a Shaheen or a Naseem who are important Test players.

You don't just let your players do things like this because it sets the wrong precedent and there's a hierarchy for a reason. Yes, Haris Rauf doesn't deserve a spot in the Test squad nor should he be playing this format but if you're asked to play, you should be playing.

Otherwise, he shouldn't have signed his central contract.

I have a feeling he doesn't trust them not to overwork him (leading to potential injury) and wants to stay fit for that PSL check. I can understand his concerns after seeing what happened to Naseem/Shaheen but Naseem was also overdoing it with the T20 leagues before his injury.
 
No matter what you guys say or think, a player of a team just can't decide when and where he wants to play. The problem here is that he was fine and gave his ok for this tour, only to change his mind a day later. Totally unacceptable
 
Nice @Asad T !

My only issue with Haris is that the Pakistan team is not a training ground for players who want to 'have a go' at Test cricket and see 'how it goes'

The PCB needs a firm commitment in the player contracts to put in penalty clauses when players don't abide by their responsibilities.
 
Amazing hypocrisy shown here by Wahab.

Pakistan invested a decade in him by playing him in test matches, and he himself ran away from the Australian tour when the management was begging him to stay. He threw young debutants like Naseem, Musa to the wolves on the Australia tour

Haris has played just 9 FC matches at 30 years of age (his body, his game will almost never be for Test matches, its just too late for him)

Wahab became famous because he went to the best school, colleges in pakistan, he came up through the ranks, was selected for Test matches, ODIs, and due to pakistan's system and efforts he became known worldwide

Haris is a tape ball player, who forged his own path, he became popular not due to pakistan cricket, he was playing grade cricket in Australia in the lower divisions meant for sunday cricketers, he strived with Lahore qalanders, and due to that was picked up for BBL before being picked for Pakistan.

I would expect a player who owes everything to Pakistan (Wahab) to first put his country before T20 leagues before I expect a player like Rauf (Who has never played longer format ever in his life). How are you going to call him out in a press conference like that citing moronic physios who have destroyed Naseem, Hasnain, Shaheen, Ihsanullah all in the space of a year.

What else can you expect from these Pakistani players. Jokers.
 
As for the contract and its stipulations. I agree, only players willing to play in all formats should be given the highest contracts.

We need to stamp out, players backing out of ODIs and test tours when it suits them. At the same time, you can't live in lala land and pigeon in players clearly not suited to other formats.

Come up with a long term pool of players suited to the longer formats and rewards them, and adjust new upcoming players accordingly like Australia does.
 
Haris is simply not fit for selection in tests. He was all over the place in the recently concluded world cup. cannot even bowl 6 deliveries in 1 spot. He is inconsistent and cannot bowl lengthy spells which is one of the requirements of test cricket. It is good that he knows his limits and opted not to play this series. He would have been poor on this tour and would have attracted more criticism.
 
Let’s not sugarcoat it.

Rauf is a coward who buckles under pressure, who cannot handle it when he is up against alpha batsmen and who is only aggressive and hostile in his comfort zone.

I always knew the Rauf drama will blow up in pieces and he will get exposed like no tomorrow and I was right as usual.

He is a rubbish bowler who is also mentally weak. He is a gone case and should be dropped for good from all formats.

The next myth that will get burst is the narrative that he is a great bowler with the old ball and a great bowler in T20s. No he is not - he is terrible at everything.
 
He should not have refused to tour.

He was better off traveling with the squad, complaining about fitness/fatigue and sitting on the bench as a result…or playing a game or two.

You simply cannot refuse to tour as a central contract player.
 
kingusama92 said:
I disagree.

One day you will need him in the right format and he will act up again. Then we will wonder why he's doing so and it will be because he got away with it before.

Or perhaps another player will look at this and do the same. Maybe someone like a Shaheen or a Naseem who are important Test players.

You don't just let your players do things like this because it sets the wrong precedent and there's a hierarchy for a reason. Yes, Haris Rauf doesn't deserve a spot in the Test squad nor should he be playing this format but if you're asked to play, you should be playing.

Otherwise, he shouldn't have signed his central contract.

I have a feeling he doesn't trust them not to overwork him (leading to potential injury) and wants to stay fit for that PSL check. I can understand his concerns after seeing what happened to Naseem/Shaheen but Naseem was also overdoing it with the T20 leagues before his injury.
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And that is exactly the problem I am talking about with fans.

Haris knows he is not fit to play test cricket, he should just come out and retire from the format in comings weeks and focus on shorter version.

If the selectors wanted to play Haris in the test team then they are the most clueless selectors ever.

Accepting your limitations and playing to your stronger suite is a concept which is aliens to most desis.
Haris has played tests before, he knows where he stands in that format and knows he will do more detriment to the team than any good.

Had he got the work ethic like Kohli he would be the first name of the squad. But he’s been playing for Pakistan for last 6-7 years, everyone knows what kind of player he is and what fitness level he has.
Just accept that and use him where he will give you results in T20s.

How difficult concept it is to grasp?
 
Mamoon said:
Let’s not sugarcoat it.

Rauf is a coward who buckles under pressure, who cannot handle it when he is up against alpha batsmen and who is only aggressive and hostile in his comfort zone.

I always knew the Rauf drama will blow up in pieces and he will get exposed like no tomorrow and I was right as usual.

He is a rubbish bowler who is also mentally weak. He is a gone case and should be dropped for good from all formats.

The next myth that will get burst is the narrative that he is a great bowler with the old ball and a great bowler in T20s. No he is not - he is terrible at everything.
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Why would any selector want to even select Haris for tests and that too in a country like Australia where you actually need to bend your back and hit the deck hard to be effective.

Whether Haris is coward or genius is a separate questions: the question should be how incompetent is Wahab Riaz to actually even be thinking of selecting Haris for test matches.
 
Realistically Harris should just retire from Test and ODI.

He knows his friend Shaheen is the captain of ODI so he’s trying to hang on to ODIs so that he can play in the 2025 champion’s trophy. But in all fairness he isn’t doing justice because to become a good longer spell bowler, he must play red ball cricket in order to learn how to actually bowl.

If he doesn’t want to learn how to bowl in the longer format…needs to be discarded. Shadab also.
 
big_gamer007 said:
And that is exactly the problem I am talking about with fans.

Haris knows he is not fit to play test cricket, he should just come out and retire from the format in comings weeks and focus on shorter version.

If the selectors wanted to play Haris in the test team then they are the most clueless selectors ever.

Accepting your limitations and playing to your stronger suite is a concept which is aliens to most desis.
Haris has played tests before, he knows where he stands in that format and knows he will do more detriment to the team than any good.

Had he got the work ethic like Kohli he would be the first name of the squad. But he’s been playing for Pakistan for last 6-7 years, everyone knows what kind of player he is and what fitness level he has.
Just accept that and use him where he will give you results in T20s.

How difficult concept it is to grasp?
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I agree. Fans cannot take it when he is selected for a test squad, he is not fit for that format. But when Haris himself apologizes to join and accepts the fact that he is not fit for the test format, people are bashing him again. LOL
 
Rana said:
Realistically Harris should just retire from Test and ODI.

He knows his friend Shaheen is the captain of ODI so he’s trying to hang on to ODIs so that he can play in the 2025 champion’s trophy. But in all fairness he isn’t doing justice because to become a good longer spell bowler, he must play red ball cricket in order to learn how to actually bowl.

If he doesn’t want to learn how to bowl in the longer format…needs to be discarded. Shadab also.
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For that, he can just play domestic games. Why is he not playing QEA?
He can play that and improve his line and length and make himself capable enough to be selected for ODIs.
 
BouncerGuy said:
For that, he can just play domestic games. Why is he not playing QEA?
He can play that and improve his line and length and make himself capable enough to be selected for ODIs.
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I would also like to ask…why isn’t Rizwan playing QEA? Since he was dropped against New Zealand…what red ball cricket has he been playing to merit a place in the squad?

If he is exempt, you can’t blame Rauf for being exempt too.
 
moghul said:
Or Like Trent Boults , play for country when they need you and you're available .
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But Trent Boult has earned that right having given New Zealand his best years as a bowler in all formats. So NZ are therefore lenient towards him at the back end of his career.

What has Rauf done in 3 years to earn the same privilege?
 
Rana said:
I would also like to ask…why isn’t Rizwan playing QEA? Since he was dropped against New Zealand…what red ball cricket has he been playing to merit a place in the squad?

If he is exempt, you can’t blame Rauf for being exempt too.
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Rizwan has already established his place in the team. Even though I am not a fan of these guys not playing QEA. Babar and company should play the domestic red ball game, but they are more than established already. Haris is all over the place. Cannot ball 6 balls on the same line and length. He can learn this art and can be prolific in both Odis and t20 where he can succeed.
 
I think Harris rauf must be worried that he will be grinded to dust in aus series. He may have to bowl 30 overs per match, another 15 overs in practice match. His USP is speed and he may not be willing to sacrifice for the known result .officially he is 30 and may be 2 years older . he may have at best another 2 years in the tank as a speedster. With his brainless bowling, he will not be at threat at 140plus.
 
100% agreed. we are getting a hiding to nothing in Australia, so Afridi and Rauf both have had a long world cup and should be rested from the tests.
 
Rana said:
But Trent Boult has earned that right having given New Zealand his best years as a bowler in all formats. So NZ are therefore lenient towards him at the back end of his career.

What has Rauf done in 3 years to earn the same privilege?
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Plus he is hogging a central contract spot and then dictating when he wants to play for his country. Retire from tests or leave your contract
 
BouncerGuy said:
Rizwan has already established his place in the team. Even though I am not a fan of these guys not playing QEA. Babar and company should play the domestic red ball game, but they are more than established already. Haris is all over the place. Cannot ball 6 balls on the same line and length. He can learn this art and can be prolific in both Odis and t20 where he can succeed.
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How could you establish a place in the team…get dropped…your replacement proves that it was right for you to be dropped…sit on the bench for months and reestablish your place on the team playing no red ball cricket?
 
kingusama92 said:
I just saw Wahab's press conference.

Wow, he completely threw Rauf under the bus.

It's an interesting topic and I understand Rauf's concerns too. However, this all goes out the window when you're more than happy to go and play PSL matches and various T20 leagues without skipping a single game. Your body doesn't suddenly become superhuman for those formats.

Of course, Rauf shouldn't even be in the Test squad but that's a separate point.
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I believe, Wahab lost his place in PAK T20 team with the emergence of Rauf - my memory tells, Wahab played last time probably around 2020 end or early 2021, Rauf debuted at similar time. May be pay back time …. But, Rauf guy is smart - knows his limitations and avoided the quicksand. His Test performance in Australia could have cost his white ball selection.
 
Asad T said:
One from yours truly. How can we trust what the officials are saying when they have such a bad track record of managing players' injuries?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1726688970082517053
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You just showed another side that we might not have been thinking about. Well, yes, maybe he is exhausted after having a bad World Cup campaign because he conceded over 500 runs in a single edition. Needs some time and rest.
 
This is a win win, no need for us to be more indignant. Wahab used him as sacraficial lamb to ensure actual test players also don't get any ideas.

Haris has no business playing tests we all know this. Just let him play T20s keep his form up and see if he is good for 4 overs a game for next world cup.
 
Haris is nothing but a tape ball baller. No skills, just a pace merchant. He isn’t good enough for international cricket. Only in Pakistan would such a rubbish cricketer get so much hype because Pakistanis are blindly obsessed with pace.
 
Mamoon said:
Let’s not sugarcoat it.

Rauf is a coward who buckles under pressure, who cannot handle it when he is up against alpha batsmen and who is only aggressive and hostile in his comfort zone.

I always knew the Rauf drama will blow up in pieces and he will get exposed like no tomorrow and I was right as usual.

He is a rubbish bowler who is also mentally weak. He is a gone case and should be dropped for good from all formats.

The next myth that will get burst is the narrative that he is a great bowler with the old ball and a great bowler in T20s. No he is not - he is terrible at everything.
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i dont get you.

You had issue when Rauf played and when Rauf pulls out you still have issue with that?
 
The issue with Rauf, much like the rest of the players, once in they're in the side, they think they have made it. There is no effort to work hard and improve and hence this is why guys like Rauf end up going backwards because other teams work them out.

This is also where the board is IQ lacking. Yes Rauf is off the streets and is primarily a tape ball bowler but the raw ingredients are there but sadly no development system.

You may only see improvement with the very young players but they are expected to get better as a natural progression. Sad to see our pace bowling battery reduced to a laughing stock.
 
While speaking to media in Lahore on Tuesday, Aaqib Javed:

"Haris Rauf has been playing T20 cricket, he hasn't played Test cricket for a year, so how can they play him? Haris played one Test and got unfit. PCB claims they will respect players, on the other hand, they put pressure on them. Right now there is no logic that you are telling Haris to play Test cricket. On what performance are you telling Haris to play in the Australia series?"

"Pakistan teams with big names went to Australia but couldn't win. If Pakistan can avoid a whitewash in this series, it will be a big feat."
 
He is a coward

I remember during 2022 PSL draft, Wasim Akram was asking Haris whether the injury is genuine after Pindi test or he backed out. Rauf was laughing. He is a weak character, couldn't handle the bashing after one test.

He completely loses it after being hit for one over or so in white ball cricket. Players like him should stick to league cricket and earn money for themselves.
 
Too many players whose focus is on the dollar.

Pakistani players priorities are all wrong - ie make as much money as you can in the quickest time.

T20 format is the priority for most, which is frankly sickening.
 
This dude slapped his own teammate for dropping a catch... there's not much he can do to go any lower
 
Saj said:
Too many players whose focus is on the dollar.

Pakistani players priorities are all wrong - ie make as much money as you can in the quickest time.

T20 format is the priority for most, which is frankly sickening.
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He will get a lot of heat now for playing BBL.
 
In terms of the topic at hand- if you are contracted to play all types of cricket- you should always be available for selection unless injured.

We do not know the full story- but if it is just to get the BBL pay day - its horrible by Rauf
If he is genuinely concerned after what happened to him in his only test and the fact that Naseem Ihsanullah Hasnain (and the Shaheen knee saga where he has not comeback the same) have all gone under recently on the watch of our physios and management-then I have some sympathy.

It shouldnt have all been played out in public though
 
He's at the same level as Butt and Amir for me. A completely shameless and disgraceful individual.
 
Suleiman said:
He should stick to LOIs. He doesn’t have enough experience to be playing 5 day cricket.

We have made earning a test cap dirt cheap in Pakistan. It used to mean something as it does in Australia, India, England, NZ etc.

Now if you bowl well for 4 overs in a game you get a test cap. Come on now.
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PCB needs to make sure that their centrally contracted players, play first class cricket. T20 specialists should not be allowed. Players who are good enough to play at test level should get preference. If you are a team only good at T20, then you are on your way out from International cricket, for example West Indies their focus was white ball cricket and now they can't even qualify for the either world cup (failed to make it to T20 and Odi world cups). Only Teams that are good at test cricket will have enduring success.

Haris Rauf almost never plays first class yet plays T20 world over. So when time for national duty came he gets injured like he did in Asia Cup. He has speed but lacks skill set that comes with test level bowling. Look at Siraj, Shami and Bumrah, all test bowlers. And that was why they were superior to Pakistani attack that looked inferior. Either you play test and first class or don't play for Pakistan.
 
Dude never played FC growing up in U-13, U-16, U-19 and literally got selected out of PSL. He only played tape ball.

So for people to think this guy should be playing Test cricket when he's only played a handful of FC matches over so many years throughout his career is absolutely lunacy and the blame shouldn't fall on Rauf, it's on PCB & its entire system. Why was Rauf not discovered by PCB or anyone involved in cricket much earlier in his career where he could have been introduced to FC?

Regardless, it's hilarious for Wahab to be throwing Rauf under the bus for not playing Tests when he himself retired from Tests just before Australia tour last time and let his young teammates & bowlers get absolutely mauled in Australia.

Rauf is simply not a Test bowler and there's no need to force him into one. Maybe try getting him to play some FC matches first and building up his workload before trying to force him into Test matches. It's a demanding job for a fast bowler and they need to built up & prepared for the workload.
 
Mamoon said:
Let’s not sugarcoat it.

Rauf is a coward who buckles under pressure, who cannot handle it when he is up against alpha batsmen and who is only aggressive and hostile in his comfort zone.

I always knew the Rauf drama will blow up in pieces and he will get exposed like no tomorrow and I was right as usual.

He is a rubbish bowler who is also mentally weak. He is a gone case and should be dropped for good from all formats.

The next myth that will get burst is the narrative that he is a great bowler with the old ball and a great bowler in T20s. No he is not - he is terrible at everything.
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You knew nothing and this is not a myth. He is a gun T20 bowler and have performed in world cup matches against India and all other big teams. The only problem here is that you have been proven wrong and you just can't take it.
 
Caved12 said:
You knew nothing and this is not a myth. He is a gun T20 bowler and have performed in world cup matches against India and all other big teams. The only problem here is that you have been proven wrong and you just can't take it.
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More like a water gun or a toy gun.

Posters like you who don’t know anything about cricket or how to interpret performances catch up but only when it is too late.

First Rauf was a great bowler, then he became a great white ball bowler, then he became a great ODI bowler who was misused (asked to bowl with the new ball etc.), and now he is a great T20 bowler.

This drama of him being a great T20 bowler will also end up in tears just like everything else. His destruction by Kohli in the T20 World Cup last year will remain his legacy.

He is a tape ball bowler who got fast-tracked and got hyped as the next Shoaib Akhtar but in reality, he is a poor man’s Wahab.

He will be history in all formats within 2 years and no one will remember him while he will spend the rest of his career as a T20 journeyman in low quality leagues.

Luckily he will not play IPL because if any IPL team is dumb enough to pick him, he will get smashed so badly by the Indian batsmen that his franchise cricket career will also end.

I’m never wrong. I’m just three steps ahead of everyone else and this is why I always end up having the last laugh.
 
Mamoon said:
More like a water gun or a toy gun.
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Water gun or toy gun can't bowl at the speed of 150kph.
Mamoon said:
Posters like you who don’t know anything about cricket or how to interpret performances catch up but only when it is too late.
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You know nothing about cricket and get trigered so easily, This is the reason why you are always targeting our fans and telling them that they know nothing about cricket, when in reality it is you who has trouble figuring our how this game is played. I only stated facts because you were talking nonsense and trying to prove that he is a nothing T20 bowler which is not true at all.
Mamoon said:
First Rauf was a great bowler, then he became a great white ball bowler, then he became a great ODI bowler who was misused (asked to bowl with the new ball etc.), and now he is a great T20 bowler.
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What nonsense? He is a great T20 bowler and everyone speaks so highly of him except you.
Mamoon said:
This drama of him being a great T20 bowler will also end up in tears just like everything else. His destruction by Kohli in the T20 World Cup last year will remain his legacy.
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lmao He is a great T20 bowler and it has not ended up in tears. He bowled great against India in the only world cup win against them. I know you forget things and lose it completely.
Mamoon said:
He is a tape ball bowler who got fast-tracked and got hyped as the next Shoaib Akhtar but in reality, he is a poor man’s Wahab.
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All these guys started as tape bowlers. Like I said you know nothing about cricket and come out to repeat the same thing again and again.
Mamoon said:
He will be history in all formats within 2 years and no one will remember him while he will spend the rest of his career as a T20 journeyman in low quality leagues.
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By then he will have played 100 plus T20I games and will continue to perform in the shortest version of this game. Nothing wrong with having a bowler who is a T20 specialist.
Mamoon said:
Luckily he will not play IPL because if any IPL team is dumb enough to pick him, he will get smashed so badly by the Indian batsmen that his franchise cricket career will also end.
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Where did IPL come from? Have you lost your mind again? What is the point of talking about a league where our players will never get a chance. But if he does, I am sure he will prove you wrong like he has always done in the shortest format of this game.
Mamoon said:
I’m never wrong. I’m just three steps ahead of everyone else and this is why I always end up having the last laugh.
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That's not true at all. Posters here prove you wrong all the time. You just run away when Pakistan team is doing well and come out only when they lose. Or bring out your favourite word "fluke" when Pakistan win big.
 
Mamoon said:
More like a water gun or a toy gun.

Posters like you who don’t know anything about cricket or how to interpret performances catch up but only when it is too late.

First Rauf was a great bowler, then he became a great white ball bowler, then he became a great ODI bowler who was misused (asked to bowl with the new ball etc.), and now he is a great T20 bowler.

This drama of him being a great T20 bowler will also end up in tears just like everything else. His destruction by Kohli in the T20 World Cup last year will remain his legacy.

He is a tape ball bowler who got fast-tracked and got hyped as the next Shoaib Akhtar but in reality, he is a poor man’s Wahab.

He will be history in all formats within 2 years and no one will remember him while he will spend the rest of his career as a T20 journeyman in low quality leagues.

Luckily he will not play IPL because if any IPL team is dumb enough to pick him, he will get smashed so badly by the Indian batsmen that his franchise cricket career will also end.

I’m never wrong. I’m just three steps ahead of everyone else and this is why I always end up having the last laugh.
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Unfortunately you are still wrong about Naseem Shah..
 
Mamoon said:
More like a water gun or a toy gun.

Posters like you who don’t know anything about cricket or how to interpret performances catch up but only when it is too late.

First Rauf was a great bowler, then he became a great white ball bowler, then he became a great ODI bowler who was misused (asked to bowl with the new ball etc.), and now he is a great T20 bowler.

This drama of him being a great T20 bowler will also end up in tears just like everything else. His destruction by Kohli in the T20 World Cup last year will remain his legacy.

He is a tape ball bowler who got fast-tracked and got hyped as the next Shoaib Akhtar but in reality, he is a poor man’s Wahab.

He will be history in all formats within 2 years and no one will remember him while he will spend the rest of his career as a T20 journeyman in low quality leagues.

Luckily he will not play IPL because if any IPL team is dumb enough to pick him, he will get smashed so badly by the Indian batsmen that his franchise cricket career will also end.

I’m never wrong. I’m just three steps ahead of everyone else and this is why I always end up having the last laugh.
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Dude thank you. Feels like everyone is so high on Haris Rauf when he's literally a street cricketer. He's a mediocre option at best in t20s where you can just yeet the ball and take wickets, but in a format where you need at least 1% intelligence he's a a flop.

I don't mind if he wants to become a t20 league bowler but he should be nowhere near the ODI or Test team
 
Both sides are correct tbh

Haris Rauf:
Haris Rauf is not a test bowler. Hasn't played any first class cricket for 2 seasons. Feels would get injured/exposed if he plays in Australia.
Would never say no to a white ball series

PCB:
The PCB is paying Haris Rauf money even when he is not playing as he is a centrally contracted player. So have every right to demand that he plays

Best solution is to have different central contracts for white and red ball cricket so that situations like these do not arise in the future
 
Rauf is a terrible test and odi bowler and was one of the reasons why we did not do well in the last two ICC tournaments, but all this does not mean that he is a terrible T20 bowler.

Besides, everyone here is quite upset with him for not performing and then pulling out last minute from the upcoming tour.
 
Saj said:
Category B centrally contracted player.

What are him and Shadab doing in that category!
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Very good

Put them in C or D category

So that they take retirement. And then can play as many leagues as they want. Right now the central contracts binds them into playing only one league and the PSL

Both these players have many takers in leagues around the world

We need to understand that we need Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Naseem, Shadab, Haris Rauf more than they need us with so many different leagues happening now

Thankfully the PCB also realizes this and so is paying them good money
 
he is an employee of pcb and therefore cannot pick and choose to not show up to work.. with a good bowling coach and aussie conditions he might have some good spells in tests which pak will miss out on.. shaun tait was an average bowler but in aussie conditions was lethal
 
saqib.rai said:
Very good

Put them in C or D category

So that they take retirement. And then can play as many leagues as they want. Right now the central contracts binds them into playing only one league and the PSL

Both these players have many takers in leagues around the world

We need to understand that we need Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Naseem, Shadab, Haris Rauf more than they need us with so many different leagues happening now

Thankfully the PCB also realizes this and so is paying them good money
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Unfortunately, rest of the posters here don't. Apparently you are supposed to give up everything to play for your country like its war. It's absurd PCB can demand players to play every format without rest and then completely discard and their careers when they get injured from messing up their medical diagnosis to unneeded surgeries to paying for their own medical bills if they get it done outside of Pakistan. These players already can't play IPL due to PCB and they end up restricted to leagues outside of PSL when they have every right to maximize their earnings in their short careers. It's up to PCB to make sure player's workload is managed accordingly like you see other professional boards do around the world.
 
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