[VIDEO] Was the catch to dismiss Babar Azam in the 3rd T20I vs England taken fairly?

[MenInG]

Taken right next to Ramiz Raja - even he had a look!

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But was it fair?

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Rameez called it a fair catch.

Good enough!

 

[Rana]

100% out

England cricketers would signal it themselves if they touched the rope!

 

[Savak]

They should have double checked on replay.

 

[MenInG]

100% out

England cricketers would signal it themselves if they touched the rope!

Sometimes players dont realize. This is where the umps come in.

 

[Marooned]

I honestly thought he touched the rope.

But the way every one went about it without any fuss made me think otherwise.

Weird that they didn't check it.

 

[Slim]

I think it should have been checked by the third umpire. Looks not out to me.

 

[Kroll]

Does look a bit dodgy but you need a side on view to reach a conclusion.

 

[sweep_shot]

Not conclusive.

Whatever the soft signal is should be the verdict.

 

[Marooned]

Not conclusive.

Whatever the soft signal is should be the verdict.

There was no soft signal here. Not even a routine replay check.

That's the weird part.

 

[Rana]

There is no way the bowler didn’t know especially with the chairman of the PCB right behind him.

It’s a gentleman’s game. The wicket stands. Babar was out. He stood no chance anyways today as the bowling was 15mph quicker than the MCC bowlers he had faced from the night before

 

[thespian]

There is side angle, without that it is difficult to judge. A lot of times the umpires take the word of the fielder. Should have checked,

 

[MenInG]

There is no way the bowler didn’t know especially with the chairman of the PCB right behind him.

It’s a gentleman’s game. The wicket stands. Babar was out. He stood no chance anyways today as the bowling was 15mph quicker than the MCC bowlers he had faced from the night before

Sorry you are not making sense.

You are more interested in this as your objective was to show that Babar failed.

Divorce yourself from your personal agenda, and think.

A catch is taken so close to the boundary, a check is the most intelligent thing to do.

If there was a gentleman in this whole thing, it was Babar who didnt stand his ground and go up to the umpire to ask for a check.

 

[Zaz]

Shouldve definitely been checked Umpires failed here

 

[Rana]

Sorry you are not making sense.

You are more interested in this as your objective was to show that Babar failed.

Divorce yourself from your personal agenda, and think.

A catch is taken so close to the boundary, a check is the most intelligent thing to do.

If there was a gentleman in this whole thing, it was Babar who didnt stand his ground and go up to the umpire to ask for a check.

Babar was well within his rights to stand his ground and the umpires would have checked

He didn’t. I think he was too scared of Wood and just wanted to go back

 

[Bilal7]

Babar was well within his rights to stand his ground and the umpires would have checked

He didn’t. I think he was too scared of Wood and just wanted to go back

What an embarassing comment.

 

[MenInG]

Babar was well within his rights to stand his ground and the umpires would have checked

He didn’t. I think he was too scared of Wood and just wanted to go back

Poor comment about a Pakistan captain. Shameful to say the least. This thread is not about you or your hate of Babar.

No more such comments on this thread as it will derail. Thanks

 

[IAJ]

Babar stopped just before crossing the rope towards pavilion. There was definately something going on, but after stopping for a few seconds he continued his march, I thought they checked potential no-ball as I was busy working.

And lol at saying Babar was afraid of such pace. He is used to play 150 kph bowlers and ball raises away like a bullet from his bat. Openers fail, whole team fails. Entire team rely on the openers. That’s a fact whether you like it or not.

 

[PakPremi]

There is no way the bowler didn’t know especially with the chairman of the PCB right behind him.

It’s a gentleman’s game. The wicket stands. Babar was out. He stood no chance anyways today as the bowling was 15mph quicker than the MCC bowlers he had faced from the night before

The 15mph quick bowler went for two boundaries in one over from lesser batsman than Babar. Please do not make Wood into some demoen bowler, Pakistan had already lost the match in the field before stepping onto bat. Openers were unlikely to repeat tgeir heroics twice in consecutive days.

 

[PakPremi]

Topleydragged his feat forward after catching it,it looked to me at the time of the catch back of his foot touched the rope. Anyway its history now.

 

[jnaveen1980]

They go by skirt movement i think.

 

[t_kaay]

There was another angle shown on the broadcast that shows his foot near the boundary marker but elevated and not touching, although very very close. It warranted a check by the umpires and I was surprised when they didn't check it, especially as they tend to check everything else thats not as close. However, I think it was a clean catch.

 

[Zaz]

Babar was well within his rights to stand his ground and the umpires would have checked

He didn’t. I think he was too scared of Wood and just wanted to go back

Stop embarrassing yourself Youre plunging lower depths day by day

Babar is probably the best batsman in the world To say the above shows youre just a blind hater

 

[adzzy786]

Babar was well within his rights to stand his ground and the umpires would have checked

He didn’t. I think he was too scared of Wood and just wanted to go back

Have you ever played cricket in your life? You’d know as a batsman you can’t see the foot position of the fielder on the boundary line.

 

[Mamoon]

Have you ever played cricket in your life? You’d know as a batsman you can’t see the foot position of the fielder on the boundary line.

Which is exactly why Babar should have stood his ground and asked the umpire to check. It seemed that he was in a hurry to leave the pitch, he was a rabbit in headlights against Wood today.

It was a huge chase and the only glimmer of hope that Pakistan was to have Babar bat deep, so it was completely baffling that Babar did not request the umpire to take a closer look.

The only logical and reasonable conclusion was that he was scared of facing Wood today.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

The way people are hyping Wood it seems like he is the new Malcolm Marshall.

Don't even remember how many times I have seen him getting totally owned, actually he usually gets hammered.

On topic, Can't say on basis of one frame.

 

[gazza619]

I think it should have been checked by the third umpire. Looks not out to me.

Absolutely. Match fees need to be deducted of these sleeping lazy umpires.

 

[Bilal7]

Which is exactly why Babar should have stood his ground and asked the umpire to check. It seemed that he was in a hurry to leave the pitch, he was a rabbit in headlights against Wood today.

It was a huge chase and the only glimmer of hope that Pakistan was to have Babar bat deep, so it was completely baffling that Babar did not request the umpire to take a closer look.

The only logical and reasonable conclusion was that he was scared of facing Wood today.

)

An international top-order batsman (not to mention that said batsman is the best in the world) was scared of facing a fast bowler, after scoring a century in his last match, driving the same bowler for four in the same over and the scary dismissal being a slash/upper-cut that almost went for six.

Another absolute gem.

 

[t_kaay]

Which is exactly why Babar should have stood his ground and asked the umpire to check. It seemed that he was in a hurry to leave the pitch, he was a rabbit in headlights against Wood today.

It was a huge chase and the only glimmer of hope that Pakistan was to have Babar bat deep, so it was completely baffling that Babar did not request the umpire to take a closer look.

The only logical and reasonable conclusion was that he was scared of facing Wood today.

Ridiculous comment. It was umpires job to decide if they needed any clarification, not the batsmans. IF he had stood his ground, no doubt you would have slated him for that.

 

[Bilal7]

The reason Babar did not stand his ground is because it is pointless. The third umpire would have informed the umpires if the fielder's foot was close to the ropes.

The angle that we have makes it appear as if it was taken right on the boundary but in truth, he was well in. However, had the fielder not been positioned there by Moeen Ali, that would have been a six.

So a potential 10 runs in three balls by Babar against a bowlers that he was "scared" of.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

The reason Babar did not stand his ground is because it is pointless. The third umpire would have informed the umpires if the fielder's foot was close to the ropes.

The angle that we have makes it appear as if it was taken right on the boundary but in truth, he was well in. However, had the fielder not been positioned there by Moeen Ali, that would have been a six.

So a potential 10 runs in three balls by Babar against a bowlers that he was "scared" of.

Ridiculous comment.

Lets not place the fielders in the outfield and then judge how much the batsmen score.

Honestly, there are people at this end of the spectrum and there are others at the other end on this forum..

 

[Bilal7]

Ridiculous comment.

Lets not place the fielders in the outfield and then judge how much the batsmen score.

Honestly, there are people at this end of the spectrum and there are others at the other end on this forum..

Only two fielders can be outside the circle during the PP. The fact that he was placed for the slash/uppercut that got Babar boundaries in the last game is what I am referring to. That showed good captaincy by Moeen.

What it did not prove is that Babar was somehow scared of facing a fast bowler in a T20 match.

Try to keep up, Dr. Spectrum.

 

[da_don]

The number 2 batsman in the world would be scared of a bowler who doesnt appear in the top 10 bowling rankings in any format

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Only two fielders can be outside the circle during the PP. The fact that he was placed for the slash/uppercut that got Babar boundaries in the last game is what I am referring to. That showed good captaincy by Moeen.

What it did not prove is that Babar was somehow scared of facing a fast bowler in a T20 match.

Try to keep up, Dr. Spectrum.

I have never bought the "scared" argument.

However, the fielder is a normal placing in the Power Play.

EVERY side has a 3rd man for the upper cut almost "inevitably".

It was not any genius bit of captaincy.

However, Moeen as a batsman, is so elegant to watch.

And most of his captaincy decisions were spot on today.

 

[Savak]

Had this been a Pakistani fielder, the third umpire would have checked. This should have been checked given how close the fielder is to the boundary line and the importance of that wicket.

 

[Major]

Babar has his issues woth extreme pace. I saw this during the psl he made his debut. Shaun tait made him really uncomfortable.

As for the out, viewers have a right to further angles

 

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

Babar has his issues woth extreme pace. I saw this during the psl he made his debut. Shaun tait made him really uncomfortable.

As for the out, viewers have a right to further angles

Yepp you got him figured out…Oh my God

 

[Slim]

Babar has his issues woth extreme pace. I saw this during the psl he made his debut. Shaun tait made him really uncomfortable.

As for the out, viewers have a right to further angles

Yeah yeah, Steyn tou spinner hai. So is Jofra, Hazelwood and Cummins. Not to mention the same bowler got smashed for 2 4s before the lucky wicket. Shameful comments from the usual suspects.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Its laughable to say Babar has problems against pace.

His major problem is with spin.

The faster the bowler, the more Babar revels in taking him on.

Just ask Steyn.

Wood is a nobody in front of him.

 

[ghaint]

In retrospect Babar or umpires could have asked to see if it was a clean catch. Wood had such an impactful spell, that took Babar and umpiring by surprise

 

[Savak]

Babar was unlucky. Any other day, that would have gone for six over third man.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Babar was reluctant to leave the field. Actually Ramiz signaled it out and umpires didn't bother to recheck

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Babar stopped just before crossing the rope towards pavilion. There was definately something going on, but after stopping for a few seconds he continued his march, I thought they checked potential no-ball as I was busy working.

And lol at saying Babar was afraid of such pace. He is used to play 150 kph bowlers and ball raises away like a bullet from his bat. Openers fail, whole team fails. Entire team rely on the openers. That’s a fact whether you like it or not.

At that pace , that shot should have been gone few rows back in the crowd, poor shot in terms of timing.. Pace is not a problem for Babar, but could be that it surprised him and it didnt connect well enough with the bat..

Babars wicket was at 93mph and Haiders wicket was 97mph (literally hurried to him, nowhere near playing a shot there, should have ducked it)

 

[Mamoon]

Its laughable to say Babar has problems against pace.

His major problem is with spin.

The faster the bowler, the more Babar revels in taking him on.

Just ask Steyn.

Wood is a nobody in front of him.

Steyn was bowling in the mid 80s in that spell. He hasn’t been a consistent 90 mph bowler for years now, injuries took its toll on him.

Facing prime Steyn would have been a monumental challenge for Babar. The Steyn that Babar dominated was not even close to the Steyn that established himself as a one of the greats of all time.

Babar is usually good against pace, but yesterday he was hurried by Wood and his body language wasn’t confident.

 

[MenInG]

Steyn was bowling in the mid 80s in that spell. He hasn’t been a consistent 90 mph bowler for years now, injuries took its toll on him.

Facing prime Steyn would have been a monumental challenge for Babar. The Steyn that Babar dominated was not even close to the Steyn that established himself as a one of the greats of all time.

Babar is usually good against pace, but yesterday he was hurried by Wood and his body language wasn’t confident.

222 to win, which batter's body language would be confident?

 

[Mamoon]

222 to win, which batter's body language would be confident?

Certainly the one whose fans claim that he is the best in the world at the moment. Such targets have been chased before but it seems that Pakistan gave up before their innings started.

I believe that is the difference between a top team and a small team.

 

[MenInG]

Certainly the one whose fans claim that he is the best in the world at the moment. Such targets have been chased before but it seems that Pakistan gave up before their innings started.

I believe that is the difference between a top team and a small team.

Not 2 days in a row. Think about it.

 

[Mamoon]

Not 2 days in a row. Think about it.

What of kind of excuse is that?

The fact that there was no gap between the matches was better for Babar and Pakistan. It meant that the confidence was high, England bowlers were demoralized from last night and Babar was in good touch and rhythm.

From Pakistan’s perspective, it was a plus point. They were already in that zone where they chased 200 just a night before, but Wood took Babar and Rizwan out of that comfort zone who got used to Willey’s buffet bowling and missed his presence.

Wood brought something to the table that they were not prepared for.

 

[Fenrir]

Winning and losing is part of the game.

 

[Major]

Yeah yeah, Steyn tou spinner hai. So is Jofra, Hazelwood and Cummins. Not to mention the same bowler got smashed for 2 4s before the lucky wicket. Shameful comments from the usual suspects.

Steyn is 150+? When he smacked steyn, steyn was on his last legs and was not the same bowler.

Babar is not God. Learn to accept criticism. He is a good player, no one is asking him to be dropped, but he has flaws like every other good batsman has, pointing them out doesnt make a person shameful.

The guy cant play express pace easily and often shows his uneasiness towards it.

Watson and ponting would also found such issues when facing express pace. But what they would do is they would stay in and grind the runs not give up to it easily. There are many youtube videos of ponting staying in their and dealing with the pace even if he was never getting bat on it. Thats what made ponting, Ricky Ponting

 

[Major]

Its laughable to say Babar has problems against pace.

His major problem is with spin.

The faster the bowler, the more Babar revels in taking him on.

Just ask Steyn.

Wood is a nobody in front of him.

No one has said babar has problems with pace.
Babar has problems with very express pace. When its 150kph+ than he feels abit uneasy and gives up easily.

Seen this twice, first Tait early in his career ajd now against Wood.

Steyn was on his last legs during that series.

Even Wahab is a nobody bowler against Watson. But when Watson faced him in the world cup, watson didnt just give up, he dealt the chin music and grinded the runs. It was one of the best watson innings i ever saw because watson likes to strike the ball but that day watson had to adjust himself due to the quality of bowling. At the end watson stayed in and won

 

[MenInG]

What of kind of excuse is that?

The fact that there was no gap between the matches was better for Babar and Pakistan. It meant that the confidence was high, England bowlers were demoralized from last night and Babar was in good touch and rhythm.

From Pakistan’s perspective, it was a plus point. They were already in that zone where they chased 200 just a night before, but Wood took Babar and Rizwan out of that comfort zone who got used to Willey’s buffet bowling and missed his presence.

Wood brought something to the table that they were not prepared for.

A valid one.

World records are not set daily.

 

[Ashmal]

Babar loves pace.

He has played the likes of Nortje, Archer and even Wood with ease in the past.

1 dismissal and we have the 'experts' coming up with some really weird theories.

What if he gets out to Curran next game....then probably 'Babar can't play trundlers' will be the new slogan.