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I had the pleasure of watching this game in Toronto - amazing bowling by Waqar - what an incredible bowler in his pomp. Did make SRT look very ordinary.

Although in the final analysis, SRT's 89* won the game for India but this bit of bowling was excellent.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...pakistan-1st-odi-pakistan-tour-of-canada-1996

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The umpire is Lloyd Barker, one of the worst umpires I've ever seen.
 
Fantastic stuff by Waqar. The irony is that this was not even the peak Waqar. He was bowling with the new ball and to get the little master out half a dozen times in two overs was no mean feet.

Haters will still hate though (and they know who they are).
 
If there was some doubt about the first two shouts then fair enough but the final two were plumb

Missing off and leg and hitting middle twice
 
Two plumb lbws, and another one hitting leg stumps.
Waqar's inswing was deadly, i haven't seen many videos of him bowling outswingers, we usually see those inswinging banana yorkers or just straight up pace bowling with no movement.

He certainly benefited from ball tampering but still an ATG and a cut above shami, gillespies, Johnson etc.
 
Nothing wrong with that, Sachin’s in great company in terms of fine batsmen over the years who have been made to look ordinary by world class fast bowlers - just look at what happened to Hafeez against Steyn.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Two plumb lbws, and another one hitting leg stumps.
Waqar's inswing was deadly, i haven't seen many videos of him bowling outswingers, we usually see those inswinging banana yorkers or just straight up pace bowling with no movement.

He certainly benefited from ball tampering but still an ATG and a cut above shami, gillespies, Johnson etc.
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Nicely done with the reference to ball tampering to please a few - but think about this spell and the fact that ball is new. Think.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Two plumb lbws, and another one hitting leg stumps.
Waqar's inswing was deadly, i haven't seen many videos of him bowling outswingers, we usually see those inswinging banana yorkers or just straight up pace bowling with no movement.

He certainly benefited from ball tampering but still an ATG and a cut above shami, gillespies, Johnson etc.
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Nicely done with the reference to ball tampering to please a few - but think about this spell and the fact that ball is new. Think.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Two plumb lbws, and another one hitting leg stumps.
Waqar's inswing was deadly, i haven't seen many videos of him bowling outswingers, we usually see those inswinging banana yorkers or just straight up pace bowling with no movement.

He certainly benefited from ball tampering but still an ATG and a cut above shami, gillespies, Johnson etc.
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Coincidently...Sachin was caught tampering the ball way before Sachin was so please shut up.
 
That was excellent. No shame for SRT, that's the name of this game. No matter how great, you will get beaten.

I thought 2.3 was out, and would want to see 2.4 in slo mo.

Majid Khan said:
Nothing wrong with that, Sachin’s in great company in terms of fine batsmen over the years who have been made to look ordinary by world class fast bowlers - just look at what happened to Hafeez against Steyn.
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:))
 
MenInG said:
Nicely done with the reference to ball tampering to please a few - but think about this spell and the fact that ball is new. Think.
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I wasn't talking about this particular match, isn't it obvious.
He used a tampered ball many times not everytime.
 
Side fact - Waqar and Tendulkar debuted in the same Test Match - Tendulkar ended up with a bloody nose.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Side fact - Waqar and Tendulkar debuted in the same Test Match - Tendulkar ended up with a bloody nose.
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Another side fact. Tendulkar was 16. And it was actually 16. Not 'Shahid Afridi 16'.

But I'm sure internet champions here were a lot more successful when they were 16.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Side fact - Waqar and Tendulkar debuted in the same Test Match - Tendulkar ended up with a bloody nose.
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Interviewed Waqar about his debut alongside Sachin. It will be available soon.

Some interesting thoughts.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
Another side fact. Tendulkar was 16. And it was actually 16. Not 'Shahid Afridi 16'.

But I'm sure internet champions here were a lot more successful when they were 16.
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Not that waqar was 40. He was 18 and playing his 1st match.So fair competition.No point crying out loud.
 
waqar was one of the greatest bowler to play the game. His strike rate shows that.LOL at Indians saying bad things about him. India can only dream of producing someone like him and he completely schooled this Sachin guy. amazing bowler.
 
This was probably the last year when Waqar was bowling at a dangerous speed. From 1997 onwards his pace started to decline especially with the older ball and by Jan 1999 he was finished.

Terrific over though
 
Technics 1210 said:
Side fact - Waqar and Tendulkar debuted in the same Test Match - Tendulkar ended up with a bloody nose.
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And still went on to score a 50. That match was the birth of two legends. It's a pity we didn't see more sachin vs Pak bowlers in his prime
 
Lovely inswing.

Not very often do you see SRT struggle so much against one spell. Most of the deliveries were identical - swinging in from a similar length to hit the top of middle/leg stump, yet SRT was unable to make adjustments.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
That was excellent. No shame for SRT, that's the name of this game. No matter how great, you will get beaten.

I thought 2.3 was out, and would want to see 2.4 in slo mo.



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Yes, it was out as clean as you can get. Utterly poor umpiring.
In Toronto, I remember it used to swing a lot and Waqar exploited the condition very well.
 
ChennaiFan said:
Yes, it was out as clean as you can get. Utterly poor umpiring.
In Toronto, I remember it used to swing a lot and Waqar exploited the condition very well.
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Are you aware about Sourav Gangully's bowling record in Toronto
 
Tendulkar's batting as captain was nothing like when he played as an individual player. However all those lbw's were out, the umpire should be investigated for corruption
 
Savak said:
Tendulkar's batting as captain was nothing like when he played as an individual player. However all those lbw's were out, the umpire should be investigated for corruption
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This is true. Tendulkar's batting was seriously affected by his captaincy. He seemed to be bogged down by responsiblity

In 1997 Tendulkar scored just 2 ODI centuries ( while he was captain ). In 1998 he was stripped of captaincy & he scored 9 ODI hundreds that year !
 
Indiafan said:
ICC cleared sachin of ball tampering though
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“Jagmohan Dalmiya demanded Denness be removed from the final Test“ - from the leading cricket website. Google and you shall find out the details. Or watch the video lol. Sachin tampered with the ball and BCCI in its usual way started crying out loud and the players threatened to not take field. Quit crying because that’s all you guys ever do.
 
It was the fact that the swing was so late that troubled batsmen.

Add to that the pace and accuracy.

Champion bowler.
 
Walawalkar said:
Are you aware about Sourav Gangully's bowling record in Toronto
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I haven't checked Ganguly's record. But, I know he bowled well there. I remember a match where he and Mohanty got a lot of wickets. The ball was moving well.
 
ChennaiFan said:
I haven't checked Ganguly's record. But, I know he bowled well there. I remember a match where he and Mohanty got a lot of wickets. The ball was moving well.
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Per all the Indians as evident in this thread...it must’ve been “all the tampering with the ball”
 
sshakir411 said:
Per all the Indians as evident in this thread...it must’ve been “all the tampering with the ball”
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I believe you misunderstood what I said. The conditions in Toronto were so good swing bowling. When a bowler like Mohanty was able to take many wickets, Waqar, a world class speedster could exploit the conditions even better. He was a master of it.

Similarly, in a spin aiding pitch, a champion spinner can make a champion batter look silly. In a batting paradise, some of these bowlers would be dominated by the batsmen. All said, the conditions and the skill set of a player to exploit them make them look lot better than their opponents.
 
Love the way our friends have tried to move discussion away from Waqar's brilliance.

Shameful.
 
Waqar usually bowled outswing with the new ball and inswing with the old one.

In Toronto where the ball swung appreciably, he seem to have changed his usual tactics and bowled inswingers here. But tbh this spell holds little water to his devastating spells in England,NZ.

Coming to his ball tampering thing, well why doesn't everyone tamper the ball and avg 23 in tests? Because only a gem can be polished to shine, rough stones break on polishing.
 
Excellent spell by Waqar. But if I look at the end result, it reads

Sachin Tendulkar 89*
Waqar Younis 6-0-30-1

Given that India won the match and Sachin played yet another match winning inning, the outcome of this spell goes in vain.
 
Ab Fan said:
Excellent spell by Waqar. But if I look at the end result, it reads

Sachin Tendulkar 89*
Waqar Younis 6-0-30-1

Given that India won the match and Sachin played yet another match winning inning, the outcome of this spell goes in vain.
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And the dodgy umpiring?
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
And the dodgy umpiring?
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It definitely tilted favour towards India but these are part and parcel of the game and there have been numerous cases when it has gone against us also. Good that we have referral system now.
 
Ab Fan said:
It definitely tilted favour towards India but these are part and parcel of the game and there have been numerous cases when it has gone against us also. Good that we have referral system now.
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True but you’re talking about this specific match and its specific end result. As far as this match goes, I would consider it a great injustice to quote the final figures and call Tendulkar’s knock a “yet another match winning innings” or that this spell “went in vain”.

(I will say the same for matches Pak has benefited)
 
Catchy title.

Waqar was a great bowler. He will always be hard to deal with in his prime bowling in the right areas.

Tendulkar did give him quite the stick on many occasions though. Probably in the same match too. It wasn't much of a rivalry.
 
Tendulkar has also been given out wrongfully a few occasions vs Pakistan. That's just how cricket is, maybe if things went his way a few other times we would be discussing a few more centuries of his vs Pakistan.
 
But umpiring is very dodgy

In fact I have huge doubts abouth these games in Toronto. I remember 1 game in 1997. India scored just 182 / 6 in 50 overs in what looked like decent batting pitch. Our batters scored so slowly with no real acceleration even with wickets in hand

But worse was to follow. Pakistan went off to flying start & reached 100 in just 18 overs.It looked like they will win very easily. But after that dramatic collapse to of all bowlers Saurav Ganguly who was bowling gentle medium pace. In fact the Pakistani batsman started playing suicidal shots & got bowled out for 148

I am dead sure there were some bookies involved on both sides !
 
There were three such series in Toronto one each in 1996, 1997 and 1998
following are the Bowling Stats for these

1996
Most wickets
Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5
A Kumble (INDIA) 5 5 44.0 2 159 13 4/12 12.23 3.61 20.3 1 0
Saqlain Mushtaq (PAK) 5 5 40.5 1 166 9 3/9 18.44 4.06 27.2 0 0
BKV Prasad (INDIA) 5 5 46.0 3 196 9 3/22 21.77 4.26 30.6 0 0
Mushtaq Ahmed (PAK) 4 4 36.0 2 145 8 5/36 18.12 4.02 27.0 0 1
J Srinath (INDIA) 5 5 43.4 0 188 8 3/23 23.50 4.30 32.7 0 0
Wasim Akram (PAK) 5 5 39.5 5 151 6 4/35 25.16 3.79 39.8 1 0
Saleem Malik (PAK) 5 4 8.2 0 47 3 2/6 15.66 5.64 16.6 0 0
Waqar Younis (PAK) 5 5 35.0 1 160 3 2/51 53.33 4.57 70.0 0 0
SB Joshi (INDIA) 5 5 43.5 4 187 3 1/27 62.33 4.26 87.6 0 0
Azhar Mahmood (PAK) 3 3 18.0 3 85 2 2/38 42.50 4.72 54.0 0 0
SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 5 4 16.0 0 86 2 1/22 43.00 5.37 48.0 0 0
AR Kapoor (INDIA) 3 3 24.0 0 97 2 2/36 48.50 4.04 72.0 0 0
Aamer Sohail (PAK) 5 5 37.0 2 152 2 1/27 76.00 4.10 111.0 0 0
A Jadeja (INDIA) 5 3 8.0 0 58 0 - - 7.25 - 0 0




1997


Most wickets
Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5
SC Ganguly (INDIA) 6 6 48.5 9 160 15 5/16 10.66 3.27 19.5 0 1
Harvinder Singh (INDIA) 6 6 37.2 2 184 9 3/44 20.44 4.92 24.8 0 0
Saqlain Mushtaq (PAK) 6 5 43.0 3 199 8 5/45 24.87 4.62 32.2 0 1
DS Mohanty (INDIA) 6 6 44.0 3 225 8 3/15 28.12 5.11 33.0 0 0
A Kuruvilla (INDIA) 6 6 48.4 3 221 7 2/26 31.57 4.54 41.7 0 0
Azhar Mahmood (PAK) 6 5 43.3 3 138 5 2/27 27.60 3.17 52.2 0 0
Aaqib Javed (PAK) 6 5 44.3 11 177 4 2/39 44.25 3.97 66.7 0 0
Mohammad Akram (PAK) 4 3 24.0 1 96 3 2/28 32.00 4.00 48.0 0 0
Shahid Nazir (PAK) 2 2 16.0 0 104 3 3/38 34.66 6.50 32.0 0 0
RR Singh (INDIA) 6 6 34.0 4 137 2 2/22 68.50 4.02 102.0 0 0
Saleem Malik (PAK) 6 3 8.0 1 47 1 1/26 47.00 5.87 48.0 0 0
Shahid Afridi (PAK) 6 4 25.0 0 114 1 1/43 114.00 4.56 150.0 0 0
Kabir Khan (PAK) 1 1 0.3 0 0 0 - - 0.00 - 0 0
Saeed Anwar (PAK) 5 1 0.4 0 2 0 - - 3.00 - 0 0
Ijaz Ahmed (PAK) 5 1 5.0 0 11 0 - - 2.20 - 0 0
NM Kulkarni (INDIA) 3 1 5.0 0 11 0 - - 2.20 - 0 0
A Jadeja (INDIA) 6 1 2.0 0 13 0 - - 6.50 - 0 0
RK Chauhan (INDIA) 1 1 2.0 0 15 0 - - 7.50 - 0 0
SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 6 2 6.0 0 30 0 - - 5.00 - 0 0





1998


Most wickets
Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5
J Srinath (INDIA) 5 5 50.0 2 244 10 3/37 24.40 4.88 30.0 0 0
Saqlain Mushtaq (PAK) 3 3 26.0 3 101 8 4/67 12.62 3.88 19.5 1 0
AB Agarkar (INDIA) 5 5 49.0 2 278 8 2/47 34.75 5.67 36.7 0 0
Saleem Malik (PAK) 5 3 13.4 0 76 6 4/36 12.66 5.56 13.6 1 0
Aamer Sohail (PAK) 5 3 22.2 0 108 5 2/38 21.60 4.83 26.8 0 0
SB Joshi (INDIA) 5 5 39.0 2 147 5 2/36 29.40 3.76 46.8 0 0
Azhar Mahmood (PAK) 5 5 44.0 5 152 5 2/30 30.40 3.45 52.8 0 0
Abdul Razzaq (PAK) 2 2 20.0 0 101 4 3/48 25.25 5.05 30.0 0 0
Mohammad Zahid (PAK) 5 5 29.2 4 124 4 2/20 31.00 4.22 44.0 0 0
Aaqib Javed (PAK) 5 5 38.0 3 143 4 2/22 35.75 3.76 57.0 0 0
SC Ganguly (INDIA) 4 4 31.0 1 178 4 3/33 44.50 5.74 46.5 0 0
HH Kanitkar (INDIA) 4 4 22.0 1 95 3 2/22 31.66 4.31 44.0 0 0
BKV Prasad (INDIA) 5 5 50.0 1 252 3 1/51 84.00 5.04 100.0 0 0
Shahid Afridi (PAK) 5 5 38.0 2 156 2 1/34 78.00 4.10 114.0 0 0
SS Raul (INDIA) 2 2 6.0 1 27 1 1/13 27.00 4.50 36.0 0 0
Ijaz Ahmed (PAK) 5 1 1.4 0 10 0 - - 6.00 - 0 0
A Jadeja (INDIA) 2 1 1.2 0 10 0 - - 7.50 - 0 0



All of you can judge for yourself, who were the best bowlers in helpful conditions of Toronto
 
great spell. Got used to watching Waqar do stuff like this back in the day. I still remember watching the karachi test of 89 when waqar and sachin both played. Waqar was a force of nature but his back injury took out some of the early pace, and then by around 99 he was a shadow of his former self. The bowling just took a toll on his body.
 
the Great Khan said:
great spell. Got used to watching Waqar do stuff like this back in the day. I still remember watching the karachi test of 89 when waqar and sachin both played. Waqar was a force of nature but his back injury took out some of the early pace, and then by around 99 he was a shadow of his former self. The bowling just took a toll on his body.
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I believe he was just overbowled in his first few years of intnl cricket and county cricket with surrey

Its a credit to waqar he came back remodelled himself and was still effective as a bowler when others finished with injuries
 
cricketjoshila said:
Caught cheating? When? Didn't the ICC exonerate him?

Waqar though was the first cricketer to be banned for ball tampering.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....t-repository-ball-tampering-2000?platform=amp
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Robelinda has a good 15 minute video where Sachin is caught with his pants down tampering the ball and goes on to show the drama pulled by India. Indian players threatened to not take field and call of the tour so Sachin’s exoneration was due to arm twisting in classic BCCI style and not because he was innocent. Fact is, Indian legends have tampered with the ball and I think it’s pathetic that Indians bring this up in every thread related to Wasim and Waqar.
 
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Ball used to swing on and off the pitch back in the day. It was a fair battle between bat and ball. Missed those days..
 
the Great Khan said:
great spell. Got used to watching Waqar do stuff like this back in the day. I still remember watching the karachi test of 89 when waqar and sachin both played. Waqar was a force of nature but his back injury took out some of the early pace, and then by around 99 he was a shadow of his former self. The bowling just took a toll on his body.
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I wish i had seen that.

Everyone in Pakistan must be doubting Sachin then, who is this kid. The commentators were kind to him. Pakistan seemed to have classy commentators back in the day.

He didn't have a great series. Probably that exhibition match helped him carry on with the group.

Also Waqar probably was 21-22 by then? Prime age.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
I wish i had seen that.

Everyone in Pakistan must be doubting Sachin then, who is this kid. The commentators were kind to him. Pakistan seemed to have classy commentators back in the day.

He didn't have a great series. Probably that exhibition match helped him carry on with the group.

Also Waqar probably was 21-22 by then? Prime age.
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Officially 19. But he is around 3-4 years older than his official age.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
I wish i had seen that.

Everyone in Pakistan must be doubting Sachin then, who is this kid. The commentators were kind to him. Pakistan seemed to have classy commentators back in the day.

He didn't have a great series. Probably that exhibition match helped him carry on with the group.

Also Waqar probably was 21-22 by then? Prime age.
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we were very curious he was nt much older than us so it was really interesting. Also many of us hadnt really heard of waqar either so watching him bowl was fascinating. To be honest, waqar really made me stand up against NZ a year later as he was just electric. Sachin looked good and you could tell there was something about him. Waqar was said to be 18 when he started so add a couple more years..probably 20. He came into his own about a year later..total destruction..
 
cricketjoshila said:
Waqar usually bowled outswing with the new ball and inswing with the old one.

In Toronto where the ball swung appreciably, he seem to have changed his usual tactics and bowled inswingers here. But tbh this spell holds little water to his devastating spells in England,NZ.

Coming to his ball tampering thing, well why doesn't everyone tamper the ball and avg 23 in tests? Because only a gem can be polished to shine, rough stones break on polishing.
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It was not only swing but the dip with the deliberate slinging action made him the best in business with the reverse swinging ball.
That is why malinga is very effective in modern era with that dip in LOI cricket.
 
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NishanKonar said:
This is true. Tendulkar's batting was seriously affected by his captaincy. He seemed to be bogged down by responsiblity

In 1997 Tendulkar scored just 2 ODI centuries ( while he was captain ). In 1998 he was stripped of captaincy & he scored 9 ODI hundreds that year !
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Its not the hundreds but how you get them. When he was not captain, he was pulverizing bowling attacks and attacking them, making them feel helpless. For me, though Tendulkar was never the same devastating batsman from 1999 on wards and the one rare occasion he played in that putting the fear of god in the opposition bowling attack was that Centurion game in 2003, where all the bowlers just resigned and game up in the first few overs knowing that he was in that zone today.
 
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