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Zaz said:
Saleem Malik and Ijaz are possible contenders too
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Both Malik and Ijaz were miles better test batsmen then Azhar Ali, you dont need to look at stats etc.. anyone who watched cricket since late 80s and early 90s can tell you that.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Both Malik and Ijaz were miles better test batsmen then Azhar Ali, you dont need to look at stats etc.. anyone who watched cricket since late 80s and early 90s can tell you that.
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If let’s say Azhar Ali debuted in 2000, especially when fast bowling+spin was probably at its peak when it came to international standards, he would make the side as an opener over flops like Salman Butt, Imran Farhat and Yasir Hameed. I doubt he would ever be strong enough to displace anyone in the middle order, especially with the amount of imbalance he has as a batsman.

The team post 2003 would be:

1. Taufeeq Umar
2. Azhar Ali
3. Younis Khan
4. Mohammad Yousuf
5. Inzimam ul Haq
6. Kamran Akmal
7. Shahid Afridi
8. Abdul Razzaq
9. Shoaib Akhtar
10. Danish Kaneria
11. Mohammad Asif

No way is Azhar ever going to be playing anywhere besides an opener
 
The title of this thread is a bit misleading and more of an emotional outburst.

No one is denying that Azhar Ali has served Pakistan brilliantly and with integrity.

But sport moves on and so does its personnel. RR has already confirmed that the pitch was setup so that fast bowling was neutered that even your granny would get a ton.

Azhar has already stated that he wants to play on till his mid forties, don’t think we can afford that.

The last thing I want to see is Azhar dragged out kicking and screaming but alas this seems to be the norm with the seniors rather than the exception.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Both Malik and Ijaz were miles better test batsmen then Azhar Ali, you dont need to look at stats etc.. anyone who watched cricket since late 80s and early 90s can tell you that.
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Salim Malik should be very high on the list considering the opposition he played against, played some absolute gems on seaming pitches, never took a step back against pace and destroyed Warne very easily. And if anyone has any doubts about his hitting ability - Nehru Cup 1989.

If he was playing today, he would be one of, if not THE best batsman in the world across all formats.
 
Kroll said:
The title of this thread is a bit misleading and more of an emotional outburst.

No one is denying that Azhar Ali has served Pakistan brilliantly and with integrity.

But sport moves on and so does its personnel. RR has already confirmed that the pitch was setup so that fast bowling was neutered that even your granny would get a ton.

Azhar has already stated that he wants to play on till his mid forties, don’t think we can afford that.

The last thing I want to see is Azhar dragged out kicking and screaming but alas this seems to be the norm with the seniors rather than the exception.
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Completely agree and if we're honest those centuries scored by Azhar, Imam, Shafique et al should count as half centuries (as most).

Batting on this wicket is more than twice as easy than batting on your average deck.
 
TheSultan said:
Salim Malik should be very high on the list considering the opposition he played against, played some absolute gems on seaming pitches, never took a step back against pace and destroyed Warne very easily. And if anyone has any doubts about his hitting ability - Nehru Cup 1989.

If he was playing today, he would be one of, if not THE best batsman in the world across all formats.
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Lets be honest Malik had a very up n down career With enormous peaks and really bad lows

When he was up like the nehru cup or playing warne he looked a million dollars and potentially the best batsman in the world but many other times he was as good as a tailender n went totally missing ie the 1992 world cup or the 1999 world cup where he couldnt buy a run and was totally non existent for games on end

He was never consistent or a top top class batter over a entended period of time He was tho someone who was very silky and easy on the eye when it was his day

Theres also the match fixing allegations that puts a huge qs mark on his stats and his career overall

Would he make a top 15 pakistan batters of all time Maybe considering the era he played but he definietly wasnt in the same league as the top greats such as miandad, inzy and co
 
Zaz said:
Lets be honest Malik had a very up n down career With enormous peaks and really bad lows

When he was up like the nehru cup or playing warne he looked a million dollars and potentially the best batsman in the world but many other times he was as good as a tailender n went totally missing ie the 1992 world cup or the 1999 world cup where he couldnt buy a run and was totally non existent for games on end

He was never consistent or a top top class batter over a entended period of time He was tho someone who was very silky and easy on the eye when it was his day

Theres also the match fixing allegations that puts a huge qs mark on his stats and his career overall

Would he make a top 15 pakistan batters of all time Maybe considering the era he played but he definietly wasnt in the same league as the top greats such as miandad, inzy and co
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Very unfair to include the 1999 World Cup. He should never have been selected for that in the first place. 1992 WC was a real let down for sure, but it was more of a letdown because of how highly rated he actually was. Prior to that World Cup he was along with Dean Jones considered the most dangerous batsman in the world. And there were some real giants in that World Cup.

Yes the fixing didn’t help, and it’s a shame he started all that just as he was maturing like fine wine. However, he was a scapegoat. 80% of the team if not the world were involved in match fixing.

Anyone who writes off Salim Malik as top 3-5 Pakistani players clearly has not seen him play or holds something against him for match fixing.
 
There is no denying that he was a limited batsman in terms of his overall skillset but, that cant take away anything from the fact that he knew his own limitations and played exceptionally well under the shadow of them. 19 100s and reaching 7000 test runs (He is currently and 6906) is no mean feat.

As a Pak fan yes there have been multiple occasions where I was slightly frustrated with Azhar's limitation and the pace at which he carries on with the game (Not talking about just SR here, the overall aura around the way his batting is formed) but, at the same time there have been countless occasions where I couldn't restrict myself to admire his determination, grit, resistance and hard work behind the scenes. Whether it was Pakistan's 3rd highest test chase on a 5th day wicket with 102 off 137 balls vs Srl, his 300 vs WI, his 200 in Aus and quite a few such knocks he has done really well for Pakistan's test side.

No one is saying he is an ATG but, denying the fact that he was a really good test player and statistically amongst the best in the last decade or so would be wrong as well.
 
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TheSultan said:
Salim Malik should be very high on the list considering the opposition he played against, played some absolute gems on seaming pitches, never took a step back against pace and destroyed Warne very easily. And if anyone has any doubts about his hitting ability - Nehru Cup 1989.

If he was playing today, he would be one of, if not THE best batsman in the world across all formats.
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You only have to watch Maliks test inns vs england at headingley in 1987 or 1992 on green seamers to see how good he was.

1994 series vs Aussies at home he battered warne all over the place.

He was brave enough to bat against the WI pace attack with a broken arm.

His test record may have had ups and downs but his peak inns were in toughest conditions.
 
Since misbah and younis have retired can anyone remember any match winning knocks from Azhar against decent opposition?

I can certainly think of some pathetic inns like the loss vs NZ in UAE. Also the pathetic snail inns in 1st inns vs Aus in 2018 which ended in a draw.
 
Can bowl some superb leg-spinners too.... :D
 
Azhar Supports raving on like hes improved his batting since his rubbish 2018 and 2019. Brutal facts are he gets 1 good score a series to inflate his average and otherwise fails.

2020

Vs bangla - 34
Vs England - 0, 18, 20, 141, 31 ( 4 failures in 5 inns)
vs NZ - 5, 38, 93, 37 (again 1 good knock in a series)
vs SA - 51, 31*, 0, 33 (pretty poor series with the bat)
vs Might Zimbabwe - 126, 17
vs WI - 17, 23, 0, 22 ( poor series with the bat)
vs Bangla 0, 24, 56* ( again 1 good knock in a series)

yet people will hide behind the stats rather then looking at his over poor contributions per most series in those 2 years.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Azhar Supports raving on like hes improved his batting since his rubbish 2018 and 2019. Brutal facts are he gets 1 good score a series to inflate his average and otherwise fails.

2020

Vs bangla - 34
Vs England - 0, 18, 20, 141, 31 ( 4 failures in 5 inns)
vs NZ - 5, 38, 93, 37 (again 1 good knock in a series)
vs SA - 51, 31*, 0, 33 (pretty poor series with the bat)
vs Might Zimbabwe - 126, 17
vs WI - 17, 23, 0, 22 ( poor series with the bat)
vs Bangla 0, 24, 56* ( again 1 good knock in a series)

yet people will hide behind the stats rather then looking at his over poor contributions per most series in those 2 years.
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Be grateful, he’s a modern day legend.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Azhar Supports raving on like hes improved his batting since his rubbish 2018 and 2019. Brutal facts are he gets 1 good score a series to inflate his average and otherwise fails.

2020

Vs bangla - 34
Vs England - 0, 18, 20, 141, 31 ( 4 failures in 5 inns)
vs NZ - 5, 38, 93, 37 (again 1 good knock in a series)
vs SA - 51, 31*, 0, 33 (pretty poor series with the bat)
vs Might Zimbabwe - 126, 17
vs WI - 17, 23, 0, 22 ( poor series with the bat)
vs Bangla 0, 24, 56* ( again 1 good knock in a series)

yet people will hide behind the stats rather then looking at his over poor contributions per most series in those 2 years.
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That's what these "legends" do , do not miss any opportunity to keep their average pseudo inflated when the going is easy . My gut feeling is he will back to his "normal: game in the 2nd inning of Karachi test when it will be time to save the test , hope he will prove me wrong.
 
moghul said:
That's what these "legends" do , do not miss any opportunity to keep their average pseudo inflated when the going is easy . My gut feeling is he will back to his "normal: game in the 2nd inning of Karachi test when it will be time to save the test , hope he will prove me wrong.
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Mere looking at series average like some Azhar fans do is misleading. A Player can fail pretty much a whole series then have 1 good knock and the average looks great.

A different players example (Brian lara - a true world class legend)

in 2003/04 - He was WI leading scorer in a series they lost 3-0 to england.

He scored 500 runs @ 83 - looks a great stat, surely man of the series and must have been brilliant all series. 400 of those 500 runs came in 1 inns on a road in Antigua. Now is anyone going to say lara had a brilliant series with the bat?

Theres always plenty examples of how one inns can make a series average look great and Azhar is the king of that in last few years.
 
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Amjid Javed said:
Mere looking at series average like some Azhar Fans do is misleading. A Player can fail pretty much a whole series then have 1 good knock and the average looks great.

A different players example (Brian lara - a true world class legend)

in 2003/04 - He was WI leading scorer in a series they lost 3-0 to england.

He scored 500 runs @ 83 - looks a great stat, surely man of the series and must have been brilliant all series. 400 of those 500 runs came in 1 inns on a road in Antigua. Now is anyone going to say lara had a brilliant series with the bat?

Theres always plenty examples of how one inns can make a series average look great and Azhar is the king of that in last few years.
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Thats the difference between players like Younis Khan and Azhar Ali , compared to players of previous generation like Majid and Waseem Raja. Majid and Raja might not have that attractive stats but they were the ones who could score against mighty West Indians and Lille and Thomo and Raja also scored in India . When Majid found an easy wicket at home , he scored a century before lunch against Richard Hadlee . We all know what these "legends" YK and Azhar would do against the likes of Lille , Thommo , Roberts , Croft and Garners .

YK also failed in first 3 test in his last tour to England and then on a flattest English wicket at Oval, he scored big and kept the series average quite decent.
 
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Amazing shot!

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MenInG said:
Amazing shot!

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Dont worry hes scored his 1 decent inns for the series, his series average will look great, these failures like today will be ignored.
 
When the going gets tough he is the first one to bail out. Azhar is even less reliable than Shafiq under pressure.

King of soft runs and even those soft runs come once per series. Probably the least effective batsman ever to play 100 Tests.
 
Mamoon said:
When the going gets tough he is the first one to bail out. Azhar is even less reliable than Shafiq under pressure.

King of soft runs and even those soft runs come once per series. Probably the least effective batsman ever to play 100 Tests.
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Exactly, been sick of this guy.. Wrong batsman backed for decade long and he is been on the decline ever since MisYou retirement .. Cant score against BAN and WI

There are ppl here that simply backs him for no reason.. He has played for 12 yrs of intl test cricket, and he still looks the same old Azhar ali.. Even after facing 500 balls in a test match , he can get out on 501st ball , he bats just like that , zero authority, no range of shots..

Waiting for his days to retire...
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Exactly, been sick of this guy.. Wrong batsman backed for decade long and he is been on the decline ever since MisYou retirement .. Cant score against BAN and WI

There are ppl here that simply backs him for no reason.. He has played for 12 yrs of intl test cricket, and he still looks the same old Azhar ali.. Even after facing 500 balls in a test match , he can get out on 501st ball , he bats just like that , zero authority, no range of shots..

Waiting for his days to retire...
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I don’t think he has declined. He is same the player he has always been but now he cannot hide behind Younis and pretend that he is a youngster who will improve with time.

When Younis retired 5 years ago, Azhar was 32 and he was expected to take his game to the next level and take the mantle as the senior batsman but he failed to do that.

His deluded fans defend him by stating that other batsmen were worse than him in this period.

What they fail to realize that Azhar has more experience and matches under his belt than all other Pakistani batsmen combined, so you expect and demand more from him.
 
For batsmen like Azhar and Imam, as soon as the situation is tough, they are just not good enough. I was reading the also Azhar Ali interview where he was complaining about people expecting Azhar and Asad to take the mantle from Younis and Misbah, and how that hurt him. I find it amusing and sad at the same time. Such a mediocre player who just drains any momentum on a good pitch when the going is easy.
 
moghul said:
Thats the difference between players like Younis Khan and Azhar Ali , compared to players of previous generation like Majid and Waseem Raja. Majid and Raja might not have that attractive stats but they were the ones who could score against mighty West Indians and Lille and Thomo and Raja also scored in India . When Majid found an easy wicket at home , he scored a century before lunch against Richard Hadlee . We all know what these "legends" YK and Azhar would do against the likes of Lille , Thommo , Roberts , Croft and Garners .

YK also failed in first 3 test in his last tour to England and then on a flattest English wicket at Oval, he scored big and kept the series average quite decent.
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Sad that you are placing Younis and Azhar in the same bracket. Younis was double the player Azhar ever will be. I would take a retired Younis over this Azhar here. His batting wasnt pretty but he had the grit to bat when the going got tough.
 
2018 - Failed with bat
2019 - failed with bat
2020 - contributes one 50+ score per series
2021 - contributes one 50+ score per series

Its pathetic the backing hes got.

With 3 tests vs Aus, 2 vs SL, 3 vs Eng and 2 vs NZ

this was ideal time to blood saud shakeel or kamran ghulam. Instead we are getting Azhar limping to 100 test like a 3 legged donkey in a horse race.
 
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For batsmen like Azhar and Imam, as soon as the situation is tough, they are just not good enough. I was reading the also Azhar Ali interview where he was complaining about people expecting Azhar and Asad to take the mantle from Younis and Misbah, and how that hurt him. I find it amusing and sad at the same time. Such a mediocre player who just drains any momentum on a good pitch when the going is easy.
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Just highlights his loser mentality. Not only his. This is our cricket culture now. Look at the negatives and the old “well I didn’t actually do that bad if you look at the stats”
 
To OP now u know what's wrong with Azhar Ali.
This test we needed him to play his Tuk tum game and get Pak in a better position. So what he does, He plays a flashy drive because he felt stuck.
He didn't play any flashy drives in last test where things were easier. Suddenly the pitch gets a little tough this guy bottles it.
This has been his problem. Forget about top 10 nature from Pakistan he shouldn't be even in top 50.
 
NoBallZombie said:
Sad that you are placing Younis and Azhar in the same bracket. Younis was double the player Azhar ever will be. I would take a retired Younis over this Azhar here. His batting wasnt pretty but he had the grit to bat when the going got tough.
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Ok, YK was slightly better than Azhar but credit goes to both these players , they made good use of flat wickets and weaker opponents and scored big and secured their place in the team for next 2 years.
 
Selectors need to grow a pair and call time on Azhars career. Time to move forward.
 
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I don’t think he has declined. He is same the player he has always been but now he cannot hide behind Younis and pretend that he is a youngster who will improve with time.

When Younis retired 5 years ago, Azhar was 32 and he was expected to take his game to the next level and take the mantle as the senior batsman but he failed to do that.

His deluded fans defend him by stating that other batsmen were worse than him in this period.

What they fail to realize that Azhar has more experience and matches under his belt than all other Pakistani batsmen combined, so you expect and demand more from him.
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Can’t argue with this. Spot on
 
What I don’t understand about Azhar Ali’s selection is this. We always get the reasoning that we need his “experience”.

What benefit is that “experience”.

When Olivier was bouncing us, this most “experienced” player was the biggest bunny. He was a bigger liability than a debutant.

When he was required to shepherd a small total vs NZ in UAE he failed like a novice.

In this match - a slight bit of reverse swing. Surely an “experienced” player could see it off. No, he starts the rot.

And the absolute worst thing about him is he will play every innings with so much trepidation (even on the flattest of tracks vs the most mediocre of bowlers) that it sends jitters throughout the dressing room.
 
Yet another timid failure, but dont worry his series average looks good as hes scored on a dead road in 1st test. Fraud of a batsmen continues to hold a place in the side.
 
Incredible - total failure of courage

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We beat South africa cause we finally dropped Asad Shafiq.

Both Azhar and Asad are kings of easy runs and never deliver under pressure. Time to move on
 
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What I don’t understand about Azhar Ali’s selection is this. We always get the reasoning that we need his “experience”.

What benefit is that “experience”.

When Olivier was bouncing us, this most “experienced” player was the biggest bunny. He was a bigger liability than a debutant.

When he was required to shepherd a small total vs NZ in UAE he failed like a novice.

In this match - a slight bit of reverse swing. Surely an “experienced” player could see it off. No, he starts the rot.

And the absolute worst thing about him is he will play every innings with so much trepidation (even on the flattest of tracks vs the most mediocre of bowlers) that it sends jitters throughout the dressing room.
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Experience means nothing when you are not good enough. Azhar does not have the talent, skill and mentality to be a world class player. That will never change no matter how much he plays.

Azhar is a middling Test player. He is not horrible but he is not great by any means. He wouldn’t have lasted for more than 25-30 Tests in a proper setup.
 
Mamoon said:
Experience means nothing when you are not good enough. Azhar does not have the talent, skill and mentality to be a world class player. That will never change no matter how much he plays.

Azhar is a middling Test player. He is not horrible but he is not great by any means. He wouldn’t have lasted for more than 25-30 Tests in a proper setup.
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if he disgracefully reaches 100 tests he will rank as one of the worst batsmen to do so. should have been dumped back in 2018. Instead they kept him in the side and even made him captain at one point :facepalm:
 
Azhar “I’m good enough” Ali ducking to a 134 kph short-ball. The fact that it kept low and got him out was poetic justice. :91:
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Maybe its just me but for me the appeal of test cricket has always been the idea of man battling adversity and succeeding only through sheer will, determination and hardwork.You don't necessarily have to even be a good cricketer to succeed at limited-overs cricket, but you have to be a damn good one to succeed at test cricket.
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Not this myth again.

If you don’t necessarily have to be a good cricketer to succeed at Limited Overs cricket and and you have to be “damn good” to succeed at Test level, then every “damn good” Test cricketer would have been even better at Limited Overs cricket.

The notion that Test cricket is harder and Limited Overs cricket is easier is pure nonsense.

People who subscribe to this theory cannot explain or justify why countless excellent Test players (let alone substandard ones like Azhar) failed in Limited Overs cricket with flying colors.

Test cricket or Limited Overs cricketer are not harder or easier relative to each other; they are completely different formats and they test different skills.

If you have the attributes and skills suited to Test cricket, you will find it easier than Limited Overs cricket and vice-versa.

For someone like Azhar or Pujara, playing Test cricket is far easier than playing T20 cricket, but for someone like Buttler or Livingstone, T20 cricket is easier than Test cricket.

The truly best cricketers in the world are the ones who have mastered all formats because they are the most-skilled and most versatile cricketers.

However, prestige/importance is a different debate. Would you rather have Test skills than Limited Overs skills? Probably yes, but it doesn’t make it a more difficult format. It simply means that it is a more prestigious format because it is the purest form of the game with 150 years of history.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
So before that moment comes, I would just like to say thank you Azhar Ali...for everything you have done for Pakistan cricket. What certain out of touch fans think about you matters little in the grand scheme of things because when all is said and done, history will remember you as a fighter who always punched above his weight and achieved great things for Pakistan cricket.

You made me love test cricket even more than I thought I did and for that I will always be grateful to you.
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Bollywood stuff by the OP. Almost made me cry. :91:
 
Amjid Javed said:
if he disgracefully reaches 100 tests he will rank as one of the worst batsmen to do so. should have been dumped back in 2018. Instead they kept him in the side and even made him captain at one point :facepalm:
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Made captain again, due to Misbah's love for him/// :asad1
 
Mamoon said:
Azhar “I’m good enough” Ali ducking to a 134 kph short-ball. The fact that it kept low and got him out was poetic justice. :91:
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There is no dismissal that perfectly sums up Azhar Ali.

1. Players a short ball like a cowardly schoolboy
2. He’s given out
3. He takes too long to discuss and review and is timed out

No problem right, replays will show that it was out anyway?

No, it’s not that it’s missing the stumps. It’s not that it was a faint nick that he might have missed. It’s hit the damn glove which every batsman must be able to feel!!!

This is our “experienced great” who’s experience we are too scared to lose.

Utter embarrassment
 
Haven’t seen CM Punk in a while😂

Modern day legend apparently, said by no one apart from one person on this planet and he’s on PP. lmao.

Don’t worry though, he’s out scoring Saud Shakeel and Kamran Ghulam!!!

Watch him get a couple of more low scores before a big daddy hundred comes to inflate his average and once again save his test career.
 
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Incredible - total failure of courage

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That was really poor from azhar You cant be ducking on a pitch like this Awful shot
 
Why not young Azhar gets some tips from the experienced players like Abdullah to sort out technical issues in his batting.
 
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We are hoping this for 4 years , not going to happen .
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Selectors need to grow a pair and do whats best for team and longterm building. This loser wont retire of his own accord.
 
He is going to be around for another 2 years at least. He makes cheap runs and then gets another 2 years. When the pressure was on, he failed as usual.
 
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Bollywood stuff by the OP. Almost made me cry. :91:
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Glad I could bring a tear to your eye.

Sadly I did not feel the same way about your tributes to Archer. Which I found to be cringeworthy and the work of a truly delusional individual.
 
Azhar had a very bad day. But I'm confident he will come back strong. You can't keep a good man down. And a couple of bad innings can't wash over the work he has done over the past two years.

He still has plenty left in the tank.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Azhar had a very bad day. But I'm confident he will come back strong. You can't keep a good man down. And a couple of bad innings can't wash over the work he has done over the past two years.

He still has plenty left in the tank.
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Hard work? :))) scoring 1 50+ inns per series must really be a sign of a pakistani legend. I see you ran off from the other thread and didnt address this issue on his 1 good inns per series.
 
After scoring that big hundred it's irrelevant on what he does for the rest of the Test series. His impact of scoring personal milestones should remain. As long as he is scoring a big hundred once every big series he will remain our best batsmen.
 
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Hard work? :))) scoring 1 50+ inns per series must really be a sign of a pakistani legend. I see you ran off from the other thread and didnt address this issue on his 1 good inns per series.
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I don't have the energy to continue going around in circles with you or the Muammar Gaddafi fan boy. I made my point long ago, that Azhar is Pakistan's leading run-scorer in the past two years and I don't feel the need to say anything more because nothing more needs to be said. His performances for the past two years has earned him atleast two series to prove if he can still perform at that level.

And I'm confident he will bounce back. Because while form may be temporary, class is permanent.
 
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RedwoodOriginal said:
I don't have the energy to continue going around in circles with you or the Muammar Gaddafi fan boy. I made my point long ago, that Azhar is Pakistan's leading run-scorer in the past two years and I don't feel the need to say anything more because nothing more needs to be said. His performances for the past two years has earned him atleast two series to prove if he can still perform at that level.

And I'm confident he will bounce back. Because while form may be temporary, class is permanent.
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You mean king of soft runs. The fact you wont address the 1 good score per series is because you havent got a leg to stand on. All this top run scorer rubbish is irrelevant when a player scores one decent score a series to inflate his average. Your so called standards for a batsmen are comical if you think 1 good knock a series is class. Delusion of the highest order that you think hes a quality batsmen.

His performances merit :))) joke of the century.
 
Amjid Javed said:
You mean king of soft runs. The fact you wont address the 1 good score per series is because you havent got a leg to stand on. All this top run scorer rubbish is irrelevant when a player scores one decent score a series to inflate his average. Your so called standards for a batsmen are comical if you think 1 good knock a series is class. Delusion of the highest order that you think hes a quality batsmen.

His performances merit :))) joke of the century.
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Is there a number on how many Tests Pakistan has won when Azhar Ali scored big?
 
Shazzam said:
After scoring that big hundred it's irrelevant on what he does for the rest of the Test series. His impact of scoring personal milestones should remain. As long as he is scoring a big hundred once every big series he will remain our best batsmen.
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Best batsmen? :))) based on scoring on a road? where was he this game when going got tough? sat in the pavillion after 2 pathetic inns.

Azhar never has and never will be pakistan best batsmen.
 
Shazzam said:
Is there a number on how many Tests Pakistan has won when Azhar Ali scored big?
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why dont you name all the match winning knocks hes played since 2017?

enlighten all of PP on Azhars world class performances since misbah and YK retired?
 
Amjid Javed said:
You mean king of soft runs. The fact you wont address the 1 good score per series is because you havent got a leg to stand on. All this top run scorer rubbish is irrelevant when a player scores one decent score a series to inflate his average. Your so called standards for a batsmen are comical if you think 1 good knock a series is class. Delusion of the highest order that you think hes a quality batsmen.

His performances merit :))) joke of the century.
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Why can't you just accept the fact that not everyone is going to have the same opinion as you? Says alot about you that you are calling me delusional just because you don't agree with my opinion. I mean I don't have a problem respecting other peoples differing opinions.

But then again, everything about you tells me you are a boomer so this kind of thinking/intolerance is something I have come to expect from your generation. Shouldn't be surprised.
 
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Amjid Javed said:
Best batsmen? :))) based on scoring on a road? where was he this game when going got tough? sat in the pavillion after 2 pathetic inns.

Azhar never has and never will be pakistan best batsmen.
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As a senior batsmen Azhar Ali cannot always do the batting for the team. He got out cause he wanted to give Babar a chance to score a big daddy hundred. He is our best batsmen because he is a selfless individual whose hard working. He can play till he is 60 as long he performs.
 
Since 2017
66 Inns
3 No
2301 runs
36.52

Break down of inns

0 - 10 runs = 24 (36%)
0 - 20 runs = 35 (53%)
0 - 30 runs = 39 (59%)
0 - 40 runs = 49 (74%)

49 inns out of the last 66 since 2017 Azhar has failer to score more than 40 runs. Just 17 times out off 66 he has scored 40+

That is an utterly pathetic record and again just shows he has 1 good inns every 5 inns or so.
 
hes going nowhere, senior will be allowed to complete 100 tests, and he will retire just before pak will embark on away tours.
 
Watching Braithwaite's innings. He bats just like Azhar Ali.
 
According to a report if he doesn't do well in the final test, he might take a call on his career, he doesn't want to hang around for 100 tests if he feels he is being a burden on the team.
 
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Savak said:
According to a report if he doesn't do well in the final test, he might take a call on his career, he doesn't want to hang around for 100 tests if he feels he is being a burden on the team.
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Good news if true. Test cricket will be watchable with him gone. Won’t miss a bowl of Test cricket after his exit. A win for Test cricket after his retirement.
 
93 tests and not a single one on his home ground.

Hope he and Babar make the most of their first test at GSL infront of their hometown crowd.
 
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