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[VIDEOS] Concerns about Shadab Khan's bowling

Come off it guys...the lad is alright.
without him, Babar and Fakhar...we will be finished.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Both Rashid and shadab bowl short and fast but shadab doesn't have the same zip that Rashid has.
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I expect even Rashid will be hit and miss, but he has a better stock leggie than Shadab. Shadab is a better bat though, although I doubt either of them will win any games with the bat either.
 
Damn we needed shadab to have another outing before WC.
And amir wahab hafeez for that matter
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I expect even Rashid will be hit and miss, but he has a better stock leggie than Shadab. Shadab is a better bat though, although I doubt either of them will win any games with the bat either.
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chacha kashmiri said:
Rashid didn’t look any great sheikh the other day
Didn’t do anything for the Sunrisers either
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True Rashid hasn't looked great either but he outbowled shadab in the warmup by a fair distance imo. Kuldeep is also struggling for form. Tahir is past his best and Adil Rashid is not at his best either. Zampa might be the best leggie in the tournament.
 
Shadab is just back from illness. hasnt played competitive international cricket since the south africa tour. concerns about his bowling are premature. for now.
 
For any leggi, the most teams important asset is a turning leg spin as stock ball, which he can bowl on perfect spot 3-5 times every over. If one can do that, then comes the variety.

Shadab’s problem is that his stock ball seems to be googley and he doesn’t have much control of his length. For a leggi, it’s much worse missing length than line. Rashid isn’t taking many wickets these days but he is still difficult to hit because of his immaculate length.

Leg spinners can’t be found from T20s, and forget about developing them through 4 overs joke. He needs to bowl lot in First class cricket, but not in PCB model FC games where total innings duration is often like a List A game.
 
Remains Pakistan's top wicket-taking option.
 
Bowled beautifully today.

Figures would have been better with more support from the fielders, including skipper Sarfaraz.
 
This win proves why shadab is our major trump card!

Honestly a lot of people doubt him here . He’s average performs against minnows etc etc. But what an outstanding performance he was one of my man of the matches as well. This guy made good 10 runs at the end which proved extremely vital when you are playing against a team like England because every run counts. Than bowled brilliantly for figures of 2-63 in 10 overs. Picking up the major wicket of joe root which was I believe was the turning point in the match as it gave an opening to us from the the other end. Now lastly coming to his fielding easily saved us 8-12 in the field as well. Example of a perfect all round cricketer his batting needs to improve but hey he’s only 20 and a long way to go. Best of luck to him and in sha allah he can perform like this for many years and also in this World Cup for Pakistan.
 
And anybody who calls this kid a show off is very delusional honestly he’s the most humble kid in the team I’ve seen he barely even speaks he’s so shy never does any cringey celebrations etc people are just too harsh and forget he’s only 20
 
Never doubted Shadab. Bowling and fielding takes up another level when he is in the team and his batting contributions are also useful whilst not earth shattering.
 
Mean&Green said:
And anybody who calls this kid a show off is very delusional honestly he’s the most humble kid in the team I’ve seen he barely even speaks he’s so shy never does any cringey celebrations etc people are just too harsh and forget he’s only 20
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When Pandaya wears gold and has peculiar hair cuts it is fine but not Shadab. His diving to stop vital runs is called show off.
 
His performance showed how much Pakistan missed him. He may be rash but he is a genuine wicket taker.
 
Only if we had another proper spinner groomed, our chances in WC would have been increased:inti
 
Let’s not forget his fielding and the last ball boundary. Great day for him!
 
The way he strangled Joe Root was sensational to watch. Read him like an open book and set him up perfectly.
 
2 Crucial boundaries at the end with the bat.
Vital wicket of roy at the top with one wicket of root Excellent fielding in the out field

Bad bad day for shadab hater and fan of unfit mental midget imad
 
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People have been way too critical of his performances at times. Guy is 20. He was good in South Africa for the most part and bowled well today too, could've had 3 if Sarfraz caught Moeen Ali's edge.
 
Confident player with clutch performance today.
Both sides knew a legspinner might bowl upfront but he still made it work
 
His performance today was a real positive. He needs to keep this up. He seems to have been concentrate on non cricketing things and not playing well which an awful combination.

Needs to improve his accuracy and he will be a very good option.
 
Always rated him. Legspin is not an easy art to master and the kid is only 20. Had he been playing regularly I would have also backed him to play a decent inning in that windies game. He can play well In those kind of situations
 
Bowled beautifully today. Handled the new ball well despite not being used to it, got hit around a bit in his second spell but had the mental toughness to come back brilliantly in his third.
 
This guy is a 20 year old?

Worth noting that Rashid himself (a similar player, now a reliable leggy who can also bat a bit/was a serious allrounder for a time) was tried & discarded more than once in his 20s & really only came back on his very last chance in his late 20s (or is the 30s now?). All that knocked his confidence down until ge finally came to know & rely on his own game.

Stick with Shadab & he could really develop into something special.
 
There are so many posters here that you forget who is supporting a certain player or who is hating him, well apart from a few of course who cry in every single post.

When a player bowls badly he should tolerate critisizm and we should also praise him when he performs without calling it fluke.

He had bowled very poorly at times, but yesterday he bowled beautifully. Wicket of Roy was very important as Roy could have gone berserk on this mickey mouse ground.
And wicket of Root came also at a cruicial time. Hopefully he can continue bowling well.
 
He bowled a bit slower yesterday - around 5-7 kph slower.

He used his googly properly and he was flighting the ball.

That’s why his leg break was spinning miles...
 
Am so glad he opened the bowling yesterday. Good spell but he needs to maintain this.
 
Clutch bowler, gun fielder, handy batsman.. probably the MVP of the team at the moment..
 
He is rubbish. Easily the most overhyped player at the moment.
 
Mamoon said:
He is rubbish. Easily the most overhyped player at the moment.
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Tbh he was on a hiding to nothing with no early wickets and India being master spin players they would have milked any odi spinner in history barring warne, saqi or murali
 
Xoib said:
Tbh he was on a hiding to nothing with no early wickets and India being master spin players they would have milked any odi spinner in history barring warne, saqi or murali
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They are better spinners available in domestic cricket. Yes they won’t transform the fortunes of this pathetic team, but it is infuriating that Shadab is keeping them out for his non-existent batting and theatrics in the field.
 
Mamoon said:
They are better spinners available in domestic cricket. Yes they won’t transform the fortunes of this pathetic team, but it is infuriating that Shadab is keeping them out for his non-existent batting and theatrics in the field.
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Shadad has potential will he realise it I don’t know most probably not, the likes of Zafar or Asgher maybe better but are they really ? It is debatable if you have to play a player just on potential Shadab is not the worst pick there are more glaring issues in this side that need to be addressed first starting from the captain
 
I'm with [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] that shady is rubbish. Don't ever want him near our team. Get a Chinaman and leggie like india
 
Shadab has been out of touch and there’s no denying that but maybe we need another spinner(proper spinner) in the team. Maybe that helps?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Both Rashid and shadab bowl short and fast but shadab doesn't have the same zip that Rashid has.
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Rashid is overrated to be honest. He bowled against weak oppositions for too long and is now getting exposed when he plays against top class teams.

Kind of like Fakhar Zaman looking like an ATG vs Zimbabwe and then we realized how bad his form was later on in Asia Cup.
 
Bugger off with this thread, Shadab wasn't the reason Pakistan lost today or why they have lost so many in recent times. He bowled a bad first over but was pretty good after that bowling to the number 1 and 2 ODI batsman in the World
 
See Shadab was not a gun bowler. Ups and downs are part of cricketer life but he was never a wicket taking bowler. Find nothing great from his spell.
 
Revolution said:
See Shadab was not a gun bowler. Ups and downs are part of cricketer life but he was never a wicket taking bowler. Find nothing great from his spell.
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He’s not a wicket taking bowler? Then what is he doing in the team? I thought that was Imad’s role.

Anyhow, i think Shadab needs a proper spinner with him instead of Imad. That will help increase our chances of taking wickets in the middle overs.
 
Shadab needs to play a few seasons of 4 day cricket imo.
 
Take away his first over today and he bowls 0-44 off 8. Against the likes of Rohit and Kohli that is pretty good. He bowled well against England and should've played against Australia so the fact he hasn't had a consistent run of games hasn't helped either. The fact that there seems to be more hate for Shadab and Babar on here than for Hafeez and Malik perfectly explains why Pakistan cricket is in the doldrums.
 
This guy is definition of bits and pieces. He averages 50 with the ball v top 5 sides in ODIs, and has a SR of 68 with the bat.

If he and our selectors have any sense, he'll go play a full season of domestic cricket this winter instead of chasing T20 dollar playing random leagues. That's how he'll improve his control over line and length.
 
Terrible bowler - he turned it a bit, decent action, young - hype-train became an express-train.

I dread when he bowls, no control and a 7 an over bowler.
 
Some players dont understand their own potential, and dont have the intellect to improve.

They are comfy and happy with where they are.

That is Shadab. Its been over 2 years now, i was a fan but this guy has not improved at all. Infact he has gotten worse.

He doesnt have the mentality to be the best.
Nor do we have the staff that promotes players to be the best.
 
Much better from Shadab Khan in this game -the difference of having runs on the board - something Sarfaraz will now regret not doing vs India
 
50 wickets in ODIs for Shadab Khan vs South Africa
 
saeed5646 said:
2 Crucial boundaries at the end with the bat.
Vital wicket of roy at the top with one wicket of root Excellent fielding in the out field

Bad bad day for shadab hater and fan of unfit mental midget imad
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2 extremely important performances .Excellent stuff
 
People on here have been too harsh on him.

He has outbowled every leggie he’s been up against this tournament - Rashid, Chahal and today, Tahir.
 
Got he drift and right pace back today, just needs to keep working hard to produce more revolutions on the ball for it to spin more often.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] give your excuses again today bad shots average team the pitch was helping him lol
 
He has bowled well now vs SA and England. It was a poor decision to drop him for game vs Aus even if the pitch looked green.
 
Is it just me or I don't see much spin from Shadab like he did before he was down for health reasons.

I have seen more spin from Indian and Afghanistan spinners than i did from Shadab tbh.

He might have had only one wicket if Batsmen didn't play loose shots.
 
Leeon1994 said:
Is it just me or I don't see much spin from Shadab like he did before he was down for health reasons.

I have seen more spin from Indian and Afghanistan spinners than i did from Shadab tbh.

He might have had only one wicket if Batsmen didn't play loose shots.
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Doest bowl slow, that's why. Needs to bowl at kuldeep's pace
 
He bowled well today.

I think in LO we should rely more on his bowling than his batting as he isn’t really a striker and won’t get chances to bat up the order.

I want to see him bat higher in tests though as I think he has the temperament to do well in tests. To improve his bowling in tests he needs to play more first class cricket.
 
Mean&Green said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] give your excuses again today bad shots average team the pitch was helping him lol
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Yes I hope we produce more spinners like him, who will average 40 against the top teams. InshAllah that will solidify our wonderful ranking of 6th and maintain our 80% losing record.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes I hope we produce more spinners like him, who will average 40 against the top teams. InshAllah that will solidify our wonderful ranking of 6th and maintain our 80% losing record.
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And yet he still has a better bowling average (34) in this WC compared to Kuldeep Yadav (57), but hey criticise a 19 year old Pakistani player just because he's Pakistani right.

Fair enough saying he's not good enough or hasn't performed, but he has been vital so far for Pakistan against England and now vs South Africa so if you're going to criticise you should also be ready to praise.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes I hope we produce more spinners like him, who will average 40 against the top teams. InshAllah that will solidify our wonderful ranking of 6th and maintain our 80% losing record.
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Well said. He's average at best.

Good enough to defend 300+ totals, as he did in the CT final, against England and SA in this WC thus far.

But if he doesn't have a total to defend or if he bows first, he will be butchered by the top 4 sides.

There are about at least 6-8 spinners ahead of him in ODIs including Kuldeep, Chahal, Mujeeb, Nabi, Mehidy, Adil Rashid, Moeen Ali and India's second-tier spinners (Ashwin and Jadeja).
 
iPakistani said:
And yet he still has a better bowling average (34) in this WC compared to Kuldeep Yadav (57), but hey criticise a 19 year old Pakistani player just because he's Pakistani right.

Fair enough saying he's not good enough or hasn't performed, but he has been vital so far for Pakistan against England and now vs South Africa so if you're going to criticise you should also be ready to praise.
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If Shadab can average 22 after 50 ODIs, people will not criticise him even if he averages over a 100 for a few games. Kuldeep is 10 times the bowler Shadab ever will be.
 
Mamoon pessimism aside Shadab is one player who I will keep around for next 2 years even with inconsistent results he is one of youngster with potentially a very high ceiling yes there is a chance he will peter and will be a failed investment but if by chance he keeps his head straight and reaches his potential you have a star player with potential to captain for atleast 8-10 years
 
Struggling a bit Shadab Khan - Sarfaraz's fielding placement not helped either
 
Takes wicket off a straight LOL. Can't wait to see Afghans spin teach this darter how to bowl after Williamson in last game.
 
Shadab would not make it into the XI of any other team in this tournament bar maybe WI.

Can't bat (has a SR of 68 batting at 8) and can't hold up an end. He has very poor control for a frontline spinner, going at 7 RPO today on a slow Lord's pitch.

He is only in the team for his theatrics at backward point.
 
He gives away at least one free ball an over. When batsmen don't need to attack him, he doesn't look threatening. Wouldn't be upset to see him dropped.
 
Another one selected on the basis of PSL by Inzi the revolutionary... so the only spinners who have played in his era have been Shadab and Shah... Mashallah
 
Are we being too harsh on Shadab

The spinners have generally struggled in this World Cup and his stats are almost on par with Shakib, Tahir and Nabi the three best performing spinners in the tourney has actually outbowled KulCha Rashid and Mujeeb.

I am not saying he should not improve he needs to really work on his batting also needs to be more consistent with his length especially, however he did take important scalps like Root, Kane and de Kock.The way i see people are lumping him with duds like Hassan Malik etc which is harsh since he did contribute at important stages and with some more development he could be a potentially world class player.
 
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