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[VIDEOS] Concerns about Shadab Khan's bowling

For an international class bowler to end up on 0/32 in 2 overs is very embarrassing - surely he needs to fix something!?
 
84 runs in 7 innings
Average of 12 with the bat

8 wickets in 9 matches
Economy rate with the ball isn't too bad though - 8.65
 
Shadab needs to quickly pull his socks up or else he’s going downhill quicker than a car off handbrake
 
He has been poor with the ball for a while now. He didn't have a good PSL. He bowls like a defensive part timer in ODI and T-20 Cricket and his first priority is to bowl defensively and flat out. We need some wicket taking spinners in our ODI and T-20 squad. Its criminal Osama Mir was kept on the reserves.
 
Babar King hai aur main wazir hoon

Too much Bollywood in his head
 
He was a proper leg spinner with a deadly googly when he first started his career in 2017 and he would properly flight the bowl with a decent guile and loop. He has now turned himself into a defensive stock ODI-T20 Afridi type bowler where he is just rushing to get through his overs at the expense of 5-6 singles. Maybe his focus on his batting off late has taken away his focus on his bowling but he needs to get back to the basics and stop bowling those flat long hops at 60 mph. He is proving to be a liability for Pakistan when he is not looking threatening in slow spinning conditions.
 
Such a besharam this guy is, won’t be hurting from this humiliation.
 
What do I say about Shadab?

Can't bat, can't bowl, can't captain.

Yes, can field though.
 
He made sure he got his 4 overs in yesterday - to hell with the rest of the bowlers.
 
Does Shadab Khan actually spin the ball?

Genuine question

I don’t think the guy can actually turn his leg spinner or googly. I’ve not seen him turn the ball for ages.

Why do people want him in the Test side? You can’t be a Test class spinner if you genuinely cannot extract spin and turn on wickets conducive to spin let alone flatter one’s.

Is Pakistan banking on him to win them a World Cup in India?
 
1/27 do far - one would expect him to do better than this

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Was taken to the cleaners today for his 2 overs. He needs to stop trying to be a batter and focus on his bowling.
 
These days there seems to be more bad than good performances from Shadab Khan.

Really is steadily going downhill as a cricketer.
 
I'm surprised they played him on all five games. Poor Nawaz on the bench must be wondering what his done wrong.

I want Usama Mir to start over Shadab in the ODI series.
 
Sher Khan said:
I'm surprised they played him on all five games. Poor Nawaz on the bench must be wondering what his done wrong.

I want Usama Mir to start over Shadab in the ODI series.
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Problem is that all senior players assume they will be picked. There isn't any fear of being dropped which usually means that people work harder!
 
If you guys watch his Eid interview featuring Nawaz, Mohd Haris and Saim he mentioned the words Hum Seniors like 10 times! That's the mindset. Ab hum seniors hain hum pe saare gunaah maaf
 
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asadee said:
If you guys watch his Eid interview featuring Nawaz, Mohd Haris and Saim he mentioned the words Hum Seniors like 10 times! That's the mindset. Ab hum seniors hain hum pe saare gunaah maaf
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That is the problem.

Complacency and they feel like they are undroppable.
 
Support from Mohammad Amir:

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Shahid Afridi on Shadab Khan:

"Shadab has always been a strong performer in the middle-overs, but struggles against left-handed batsmen. It's important for him to focus on his bowling, as that is his strength. As a batsman, he should take a backseat. In the end, Shadab's performance is what matters most and he should strive to improve his bowling to secure his spot in the squad"
 
A rare success in this game for Pakistan

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Criminal that Usama Mir has not been preferred. Shadab's bowling is vastly inferior to Usama's and his batting isn't great enough to offset the difference in bowling. Usama has been hard done by especially after he had a decent ODI series against NZ last time round.
 
Hope this dropping from the 2nd ODI is a good message for Shadab.
 
2 wickets so far for Shadab Khan -

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Off to the USA to play in MLC - wonder if he will get a NOC?

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MenInG said:
Off to the USA to play in MLC - wonder if he will get a NOC?

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This is now fast becoming a joke. I mean so called key/senior players of the Pak team play T20 circus games 90% of the year. I mean how are they supposed to work on their game when all they do is play in circus leauges!

These guys have 0 work ethic or desire to improve. You can clearly see Shadab is not fit and getting smashed all over.
 
He just cannot spin the bowl or control the flow of runs.

Where is he heading to now?
 
He could be a part time bowling all rounder just like Shahid Afridi but he is no where near to become our leading spinner option. We must need to admit this fact otherwise we are going to pay the price whenever we face a good balanced team.
 
He’s bowling way too fast for a leggie. Didn’t even try a single variation today. Did bowl couple of goggles against Afghanistan which actually turned more than his stock delivery.
 
Struggled with the left hander, a player like Adil Rashid would be looking to angle the ball away from the leftie and bowl Googly’s more than the stock ball.
 
both of our spinners cant spin the ball. so why not go with one more pacer like faheem ashraf. part time spinners can bowl when it required like salman and iftikhar.
 
I fail to understand why we haven’t found a single decent spinner after Saeed Ajmal (though his action was a big issue).

Shadab is only good against minnow teams who lack proper batting technique and try to go after him.

Both Shadab and Nawaz are bowlers you would term as ‘mazaydaar’. Such gentle spin good batsmen play comfortably. And Shadab keeps bowling full risses every now and then.

And what I saw from Usama in the last ODI he played, he looked very ordinary with no control.

Atm Salman Ali Agha or Chacha look more threatning than those ‘specialists’. Salman should be allowed to bowl more as he seems to have some control and stops free flow of runs.
 
May be the ball was a bit wet due to conditions and wristies struggle with control more. Usually his control is impeccable and he keeps things tight.
 
He will never learn, will never buckle down and take his progress seriously. In a few months he'll forget all about this while he's bowling half trackers in the Tibet Super League.
 
IAJ said:
I fail to understand why we haven’t found a single decent spinner after Saeed Ajmal (though his action was a big issue).

Shadab is only good against minnow teams who lack proper batting technique and try to go after him.

Both Shadab and Nawaz are bowlers you would term as ‘mazaydaar’. Such gentle spin good batsmen play comfortably. And Shadab keeps bowling full risses every now and then.

And what I saw from Usama in the last ODI he played, he looked very ordinary with no control.

Atm Salman Ali Agha or Chacha look more threatning than those ‘specialists’. Salman should be allowed to bowl more as he seems to have some control and stops free flow of runs.
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Because we aren’t looking for them hard enough. There seems to be a love for allrounder spinners.

This type of attacking spinner for ODIs will not come from T20s. Pakistan must look into FC and test perf and bring a proper spinner with miles under them.

Shadab’s entire bowling has become perfect for short formats because that’s what he’s been prioritizing.
 
Shadab Khan's form has been very poor and has been bowling lots of half-trackers. Today as well, Rohit smashed him on those loose deliveries. He needs to up his game as we need him to bowl well in middle overs.
 
What will it take for people to realize that he is an absolute joke of a cricketer and has been for years?

A glorified part-timer with the ball, a glorified tail-ender with the bat and a full-time over actor in the field.

You can’t be a serious cricket team when he is one of your first choice players.
 
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He has been a waste of a spot for a long time now. He should not be selected if he doesn't sort his bowling out.
 
I can see this mediocre league superstar getting rightfully dropped after the world cup.
 
He is roller and not a spinner, which has worked OK against most teams but against he has no control against Ind because of the pressure.
 
Bewal Express said:
Both are poor. Lets nof think Nawaz would be any better.
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He's another bits and pieces but I'm saying in a binary choice - how does Shadab gets the nod based on their bowling stats ?

Why does Shadab always get a longer rope than his competitors ?
 
Dropping Shadab gives Pakistan so many options to field a strong team. But for whatever reason, despite his mediocrity, Shadab is the first choice player. You can’t select someone simply for their fielding, which I think is also exaggerated.
 
Very poor bowler indeed.

But we don’t have a single good spinner. Usama and Nawaz are ordinary as well.

Better let Chacha and Salman bowl.
 
India smashes him most of the times. The batters are probably always too tired of playing our SSA and others that they just have to target him to keep a healthy run rate.
 
If you have been playing cricket for as long as he has and are still bowling so many long-hops and full-tosses, then there is something very wrong.
 
Saj said:
If you have been playing cricket for as long as he has and are still bowling so many long-hops and full-tosses, then there is something very wrong.
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In golf your swing has to withstand pressure of tight situations and different conditions. Well Shadabs problem is technical because as soon he plays guys that are good players of spin, he falls to pieces. As I said on here before, I sent an image of his release to a mutual acquaintance so he could see what I observed at home. His response was that it's knee that is the problem, not his release
 
His face never looks fresh. Not sure what he does in his off days and what his game preparation is like
 
Pakistan should not field spinners against India. Better off going with a specialist batsman.

Nawaz and Shadab have never caused them any issues
 
Bewal Express said:
In golf your swing has to withstand pressure of tight situations and different conditions. Well Shadabs problem is technical because as soon he plays guys that are good players of spin, he falls to pieces. As I said on here before, I sent an image of his release to a mutual acquaintance so he could see what I observed at home. His response was that it's knee that is the problem, not his release
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interesting insights. Most of injury has been related to his groin though.

So a change of bowling action would help?

To be fair, Nawaz has the most beautiful action and run up but he doesnt get that much spin
 
Major said:
interesting insights. Most of injury has been related to his groin though.

So a change of bowling action would help?

To be fair, Nawaz has the most beautiful action and run up but he doesnt get that much spin
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He told our friend that its his knee. But the release as it stands will never get big spin on flat wickets and good batsman don't have problem with none spinning bowlers in the longer formats
 
IMMY69 said:
I've said this until I'm blue in the face...

The man needs to play first class cricket...
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Spot on.

Long spells against batters who aren't trying to slog him every ball. Long spells where he doesn't pick up cheap wickets. Long spells where he is tested by proper batters. Long spells that help him work on his technique and ability to turn the ball.
 
Bewal Express said:
He told our friend that its his knee. But the release as it stands will never get big spin on flat wickets and good batsman don't have problem with none spinning bowlers in the longer formats
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what about NAwaz?
 
Major said:
what about NAwaz?
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Maybe his fingers aren't strong enough. My son has beautiful off spinning action but never gets one off the straight. I don't think people realise how quick these spinners bowl because most spinners at club levels bowl around 40-45mph and due to that pace they get a little bit of purchase on under prepared wickets. The international spinners bowl between 52 to 57 and they don't have enough spin to turn the ball at those speeds on flat wickets
 
Bewal Express said:
Maybe his fingers aren't strong enough. My son has beautiful off spinning action but never gets one off the straight. I don't think people realise how quick these spinners bowl because most spinners at club levels bowl around 40-45mph and due to that pace they get a little bit of purchase on under prepared wickets. The international spinners bowl between 52 to 57 and they don't have enough spin to turn the ball at those speeds on flat wickets
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thats true. Spinners bowl pretty fast we just see and compare their speeds to fast bowlers and think they are abit slow and easy to play.

I think post chucking, pakistan has suffered to find spinners.

also good luck to your son
 
The only thing he has is in his favour is his excellent fielding and his "superstar" persona. Usama Mir is clearly a better bowler and his batting is also not too bad.
 
Bharatiya batsmen can play with one eye closed and still smash him for 70-80 runs with ease.
He’s good for other teams but against Bharat, he’s clueless.
 
Major said:
thats true. Spinners bowl pretty fast we just see and compare their speeds to fast bowlers and think they are abit slow and easy to play.

I think post chucking, pakistan has suffered to find spinners.

also good luck to your son
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My youngest is the off spinner and he will make a decent club spinner but no chance of going higher.
 
Babar has his favourites. It’s Shadab’s friendship with him that keeps him in the side.

There are at least 3 better white ball spinners in Pakistan.
 
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