[VIDEOS] Dressing room celebrations for reaching milestones - When are they appropriate?

[MenInG]

Take the Azhar Ali 7000 runs ones

Yes a big deal but the context of the game - where Pakistan had collapsed losing 7 wickets for 20 runs- was it necessary?

 

[Rana]

This is fine for behind the closed door stuff but not for public. They will get berated for this.

 

[Major]

Its ok, what happens in the ground stays in the ground. That shouldnt stop you from celebrating such achievements as they are good for building good environments.

Same way a player could say after 10 years in their book that when they rewched such milestone no ome congratulated them.

7k runs is a big achievment, and azhar is the most hated cricketer on the forum. Posters actually want him to fail.

I understand if azhar doesnt perform in the eecond innings of this test, he would be bashed for this celebration.

 

[MenInG]

Another one that stands out is this one

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...sad-Shafiq-s-performance-after-the-Gabba-Test

 

[daytrader]

Other teams do celebrate too, they go for drinks instead of cutting cakes. Being Muslims, I don't see what the problem is, if we are celebrating in a halal way. Non issue really

 

[sweep_shot]

If it is a major milestone, celebration is understandable. If not, it is just cringeworthy.

 

[Zaz]

Im not for celebrating when the team is down n in a state
Its not a good look

Reserve these celebration for when the team has won

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I think people should mind their own business and not make a big deal about every little thing. How is this any different from co-workers celebrating a personal milestone for their colleague? Its bad enough that people poke holes into every little thing our players say or do with social media. Now they can't even celebrate personal milestones between friends?

And while we are on the topic, how many Pakistani batters can even claim to say they have scored 7000 test runs?

I don't know if sometimes we tend to forget that our players are humans and feel the same feelings that we do. Because only that can explain Azhar Ali's friends not celebrating such a historic achievement in his career.

 

[Sarwar89]

He was man of the match in that epic sharjah test match series equalling test against sri lanka when chasing 300+ in 57 overs was never heard off.
In icc champions trophy final, initially fakhar zaman was struggling, it was him whose massive six to Ashwin perhaps brought confidence in fakhar and rest we know.
I think criticism is way over the top. The guy is decent cricketer with very well behaved mannerism and has helped pakistan on many occasions.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

It's just a game, you win some you lose some. 7000 test runs is a career achievement.

I would agree if team is losing and they would do OTT celebration for a 50/100 milestone in the test. That is more contextual and will be seen in bad taste given the team situation.

Whether you like Azhar or not, he achieved something monumental and you need to acknowledge that.

 

[badsha001]

He was man of the match in that epic sharjah test match series equalling test against sri lanka when chasing 300+ in 57 overs was never heard off.
In icc champions trophy final, initially fakhar zaman was struggling, it was him whose massive six to Ashwin perhaps brought confidence in fakhar and rest we know.
I think criticism is way over the top. The guy is decent cricketer with very well behaved mannerism and has helped pakistan on many occasions.

That ICC final was simply because of Azhar Ali. That 6 off Ashwin was the turning point which turned things around for Pakistan in that game.

 

[adzzy786]

How much cake do these guys eat? After every little thing there’s a cake. Do they not have a nutritionist? Cake after cake after cake. It’s ridiculous, no wonder half of them have horrendous fitness

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

What they do behind closed doors is nobody's business.

What they put on camera becomes everyone's business.

They need to finish the job - and then go on a celebration. Everyone will be happy for them.

Not right now.

 

[topspin]

Cringeworthy and a reflection of Pakistan's small team mentality.

You would never see this during golden days of Pakistan cricket when we had star studded line-up.

Hugely embarrassing.

 

[Pakpak]

Cringeworthy and a reflection of Pakistan's small team mentality.

You would never see this during golden days of Pakistan cricket when we had star studded line-up.

Hugely embarrassing.

This. I still remember Shafiq being given cake after Brisbane. Plus this cake thing is beyond cringeworthy in itself.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Sorta shallow and cheesy, but at the same time, not a biggie.

If it helps them release some of that game pressure, then so be it. We all deserve a little breather.
I hope it gives Azhar Ali more confidence and he can bat with a better impact tomorrow.

 

[Saj]

It's this whole social media thing where everything they do and say has to be put out there in the public eye.

I could think of a few former players who would tell the management to stick the cake where the sun doesn't shine.

 

[offstump]

As fans we aren’t the owners of our players. They have lives and believe it or not, have the right to be happy.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

It's this whole social media thing where everything they do and say has to be put out there in the public eye.

I could think of a few former players who would tell the management to stick the cake where the sun doesn't shine.

In those days, there was no social media. If it did, then perhaps we would've seen it then, too.

Times have changed. These new norms of new society seem weird to us old schoolers.

Girl goes into Sajda and takes a selfie with one hand sticking out to post a facebook image of her status that she is praying salah. That's considered pretty much OK and acceptable.

However, we do know that many of our players are unaware of keeping that high class of demeanor.
Many of them players, and folks around them have sorta, little literacy type deyhati mindset. These little things are new and amusing to them. So let them have their moment published for the public eye. Who knows if this is what helps them a better sense of satisfaction?

 

[moghul]

I watched the video clip 2 times, still could not find whats the fuss about ?

 

[offstump]

No fuss, seems like some people can’t stand seeing happiness in others.

 

[Firebat]

Whatever your opinion on the player, it's a huge milestone to reach 7000 Test runs. In a closed team environment, it's fine to have a small celebration for it.

However, posting this video requires a bit of PR understanding around the context. Of course, this has become a problem due to the time they posted it, just after an embarrassing collapse. Could have just kept it private and no big deal.

 

[Kroll]

Pakistan lose a lot of games against the top sides so I won't begrudge this to them. At least they can celebrate something if not winning.

 

[shamaan]

They should have done it after the test series

 

[Varun]

How much cake do these guys eat? After every little thing there’s a cake. Do they not have a nutritionist? Cake after cake after cake. It’s ridiculous, no wonder half of them have horrendous fitness

At this rate you'll see Pakistan celebrate winning the toss with a cake by the time the next generation comes around.

 

[Shazzam]

I wonder if Australians are celebrating Steve Smith's 8000 runs.

 

[Kroll]

At least something to celebrate. Lol

 

[adzzy786]

At this rate you'll see Pakistan celebrate winning the toss with a cake by the time the next generation comes around.

I wonder if they’ll have a cake today as babar scored 50 and they lost the match

 

[Markhor]

I don't recall Javed Miandad or Saeed Anwar cutting cakes after hundreds.

For them, that was Tuesday.

Just smacks of a team culture that celebrates mediocrity.

 

[90MPH]

Absolutely ridiculous.

The whole coaching setup is a joke and they need to be fired.

Pakistan cricket needs a nonsense hard task manager or coach. The soft soft approach can only work in shorter formats or against mediocre opposition.

 

[TAK]

Why the broken English, both in the speech and on the cake?

 

[Zaz]

Absolutely ridiculous.

The whole coaching setup is a joke and they need to be fired.

Pakistan cricket needs a nonsense hard task manager or coach. The soft soft approach can only work in shorter formats or against mediocre opposition.

The whole set up seems timid, going through the motions, where are the leaders, strong personalities who will drive the players into giving 100% and thrash the players uf they dont perform to standard

I just dont see any in this set up

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Actually on the field during the time when he reached 7000 runs , he was the one celebrating..

Even Babar became ready to face the ball and Azhar walked to him to shake hands and say that he scored 7000 runs.. Also Aleem Dar asked him why he shook hands with babar in the middle of the over.

Thats how his runs are, of no intent and interest to others except him..

 

[MenInG]

Celebrations for Pakistan's 500th ODI

What was the need for this?

Why is the current team celebrating as if they played all 500 games?

Fine if you bring in Javed Miandad or some of the older players for this but not this.

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[Mamoon]

Celebrations for Pakistan's 500th ODI

What was the need for this?

Why is the current team celebrating as if they played all 500 games?

Fine if you bring in Javed Miandad or some of the older players for this but not this.

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This is a strange take. You don’t have to play all 500 ODIs to celebrate this. Why bring Miandad who hasn’t played an ODI since 1996?

I’m not a fan of these caking cutting ceremonies but I don’t agree with your reasoning here.

By this logic no one should celebrate Independence Day in Pakistan unless they helped Pakistan get independence in 1947.

 

[MenInG]

This is a strange take. You don’t have to play all 500 ODIs to celebrate this. Why bring Miandad who hasn’t played an ODI since 1996?

I’m not a fan of these caking cutting ceremonies but I don’t agree with your reasoning here.

By this logic no one should celebrate Independence Day in Pakistan unless they helped Pakistan get independence in 1947.

Your disagreement is noted!

If the Quaid-e-Azam was alive and that is what we were celebrating, would it not be OK to bring him in or atleast play a video mesage from him

When PCB are happy to put up a picture like this then with Miandad, WY etc all alive, would have been nice to bring them in and do a proper celebration.

 

[Suleiman]

Your disagreement is noted!

If the Quaid-e-Azam was alive and that is what we were celebrating, would it not be OK to bring him in or atleast play a video mesage from him

When PCB are happy to put up a picture like this then with Miandad, WY etc all alive, would have been nice to bring them in and do a proper celebration.

Epic poster. Good to see the OG ODI Don Zaheer Abbas in there too.

Asian Viv Richards of his era.

 

[MP2011]

This Pakistan team looks like a very happy bunch, a far cry from the days of Shoaib and 2 Ws. A serious contender for ODI WC '23.

I won't begrudge them celebrating a team milestone. As for eating case, they are eating just a small portion, is ok.

 

[TheSultan]

This is so cringe - honestly, cutting cakes for every little thing is something that is usually reserved for kids.

Our team have become so soft, that to get some validation they need to cut a cake for everything.

Seriously grow up! You are adults, you are men, have some self respect and act like Men!

 

[emranabbas]

Who on earth celebrates 500 wins

 

[AAli98]

& these jokers are suppose to win a odi World Cup later this year with fat Haris sohail as a senior player.

 

[Mamoon]

This Pakistan team looks like a very happy bunch, a far cry from the days of Shoaib and 2 Ws. A serious contender for ODI WC '23.

I won't begrudge them celebrating a team milestone. As for eating case, they are eating just a small portion, is ok.

Happiness doesn’t make you contenders. This team is nowhere near World Cup winning material. It might fluke its way into the semifinals but going all the way is beyond them.

 

[Major]

Your disagreement is noted!

If the Quaid-e-Azam was alive and that is what we were celebrating, would it not be OK to bring him in or atleast play a video mesage from him

When PCB are happy to put up a picture like this then with Miandad, WY etc all alive, would have been nice to bring them in and do a proper celebration.

issue is, you need to know before hand we will win.

Inviting them and than losing would had not looked good. However the social media team of PCB is terrific, and who knows they might upload a celebration video later on.

For now i think this cake cutting ceremony was well deserved

 

[Rana]

Your disagreement is noted!

If the Quaid-e-Azam was alive and that is what we were celebrating, would it not be OK to bring him in or atleast play a video mesage from him

When PCB are happy to put up a picture like this then with Miandad, WY etc all alive, would have been nice to bring them in and do a proper celebration.

Thank God no Misbah in this picture

It is missing Mohammad Yousuf though

 

[MP2011]

Happiness doesn’t make you contenders. This team is nowhere near World Cup winning material. It might fluke its way into the semifinals but going all the way is beyond them.

I know happiness doesn't make you a contender. But I think this team is gelling well, with a great top-3.

 

[Saj]

I don't think any team in international cricket celebrates so many things as Pakistan.

It's getting stupid now.

 

[Major]

I don't think any team in international cricket celebrates so many things as Pakistan.

It's getting stupid now.

Every team does celebrations, only the manner is different.

SENA sides celebrate by having a beer at the end of the series with the opposition and share the dressing room while at it.

Its not really an issue, in the past many cricketers made records that would go unnoticed. They do this for the marketing purpose on social media and it helps them grow their presence on social media and creates further content.

Best was Chacha Ifti giving out eidi.

 

[Kroll]

Thank God no Misbah in this picture

It is missing Mohammad Yousuf though

If Misbah played ODI any longer, he would rightly be placed in the 500 ODI LOSSES picture.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

A maiden century or a first international wicket. A marathon double or triple, a significant match winning 5 fer or a hundred.

 

[topspin]

Thank God no Misbah in this picture

It is missing Mohammad Yousuf though

It's ironic not to see his picture here because cake cutting was a remnant of his era.

 

[topspin]

If Misbah played ODI any longer, he would rightly be placed in the 500 ODI LOSSES picture.

And I'm sure he would've requested for a cake cutting ceremony after reaching such a milestone as well

 

[topspin]

Cringeworthy and a reflection of Pakistan's small team mentality.

You would never see this during golden days of Pakistan cricket when we had star studded line-up.

Hugely embarrassing.

I said this last year and I'll say it again, Pakistan is once again doing a grand job in showcasing their small team mentality.