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Good to see. Don’t think any RSS members need to visit Muslim countries when they hate Muslims so much.
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It was pre planned for sure. It wasn't totally one sided, Muslims did planned attacks as well, but majority of blame should go to BJPand their ideology.
The point was that so many people around the globe live illegally in different countries like I guess Afghanisis in Pak or Mexicans in US but you don't see full blown riots happening
lol at indians complaining about illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. There are significantly more illegal indians in america.
Indians complaining about immigration has to be the biggest irony in the world. Indians generally constitute the largest or second largest immigrant population in most developed countries of the world. They are spawning like rabbits.
Soon there will be a time no matter where you are or where you go, every second person you bump into will be an Indian or ethnic Indian.
Indians complaining about immigration has to be the biggest irony in the world. Indians generally constitute the largest or second largest immigrant population in most developed countries of the world. They are spawning like rabbits.
Indians complaining about immigration has to be the biggest irony in the world. Indians generally constitute the largest or second largest immigrant population in most developed countries of the world. They are spawning like rabbits.
Doesn't seem like it with slogans such as "Desh ke Gaddaro Ko Goli Maro Salon ko".
OR slogans like
"15 crore mussalman is enough to kill 100 crore hindus" - Waris Pathan.
"Hinduon se azaadi" - Mumbai CAA protest
If a Muslim sees his mother burnt alive or raped by a mob who are NEXT TO THE POLICE and then reads about the systemic abuse by the police against Muslims (I mean even kids were being questioned) and he later on blows up a police station. Would it be wrong? Yes. But for that boy to be radicalised would be all India's fault. This is what ISIS prays on.
Like I said, if you reduce policing you'll have drug wars. It doesn't mean I'm justifying drugs either. I'm simply stating a thing which will happen.
The attackers and perceived attackers.
If we reduce policing, reduce employment it would give rise to drug gangs and crime, right? Would that mean I am justifying drug gang crime?
No it wouldn't. You can't control where terror arises, you can however prevent and manage its rise. Good luck to India for driving young Muslims to radicalism.
In reality most often than not they attack other common and normal people from other religions, then those people feel the need to take revenge and the cycle continues.
That's how hate and crime grows, if you want to stop it you need to put blanket ban on every wrongdoing. Period.
You are stating something will happen, yes it might happen, are people creating a communal environment are in the wrong? absolutely. No question about it.
But any person who becomes radicalised enough to take lives of any innocent is wrong as well.
It seems like you are not willing to accept the two wrongs. Purposely talking about the first one (which I already agree with you) and ignoring the second one for some reason.
That alleged slogan was by one guy who has since retracted the outburst if any. The goli maro slogan was used by huge swathes of Hindutva goons and their supporters.
don't understand why the Hindutvas are trying to claim the Indian Muslims are traitors? To me, they are loyal and upstanding community who are committed to India. Surely the goons can see this?
Because they have nothing else to do. This is a pretty easy way to keep their jaahil voters happy.![]()
lol at indians complaining about illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. There are significantly more illegal indians in america.
I don't understand why the Hindutvas are trying to claim the Indian Muslims are traitors? To me, they are loyal and upstanding community who are committed to India. Surely the goons can see this?
Ok kid, you made the statement. Prove it that there are significantly more illegal Indian Immigrants in America than illegal Bangladeshis in India..
Illegal bangladeshis number in millions here.
Dont take [MENTION=142256]Pakistanian[/MENTION] too seriously, he once claimed that kashmiri pandits are not ethnic kashmiris but outsiders who came for pilgrimage and settled in kashmir.
Also its funny how pakistani immigrants talk nonsense about another immigrant community. In almost every country Indians are economically and socially ahead of the pakistani community, esp in places like US UK etc.
Bangladeshi govt cancele the invitation ....
Think we need to add the context as well.
PM Modi's Dhaka trip cancelled after 3 coronavirus cases reported in Bangladesh
To contain the spread of coronavirus, the Bangladesh government has decided to cancel the celebrations for Sheikh Mujibur Rehman's centenary birth anniversary on March 17. As a result, PM Modi's visit to Dhaka has been cancelled.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ses-reported-in-bangladesh-1653760-2020-03-09
Wow didn't think bangladeshi pm had guts to do that. Slap on the face of facist.
Who is in power now in India? Is it Congress or....?![]()
To cancel his Father's centenary celebrations?
You are calling the founder of Bangladesh a fascist?
No I am calling the fascist leader modi a fascist. Accept your fascist leader he will break your country into pieces then after that you won't show your face on these boards.
But you are the one who is sleeping here.![]()
Man I've no idea why you get riled up even more than my Pakistani brothers here.
Or do I ?![]()
No I am calling the fascist leader modi a fascist. Accept your fascist leader he will break your country into pieces then after that you won't show your face on these boards.
So you have a bad habit of sleep talking? Once you wake up please read the following.
What can I expect from you next? You asking me to move to Pakistan or say 'Jai Shri Ram'? You are another brainwashed bhakht.![]()
I don't know what that means. I assume you mean Bangladesh should've severed relations with India after they elected the BJP into power ?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Indian envoy failed to meet Hasina despite requests: Dhaka daily. <a href="https://twitter.com/janusmyth?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@janusmyth</a> reports on Dhaka’s recent FP moves. <a href="https://t.co/Ia2wYD8ypJ">https://t.co/Ia2wYD8ypJ</a></p>— Suhasini Haidar (@suhasinih) <a href="https://twitter.com/suhasinih/status/1286873140878929921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The Hindu has been caught spreading "source" based half truths.
Latest is the Iran one.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Indian envoy failed to meet Hasina despite requests: Dhaka daily. <a href="https://twitter.com/janusmyth?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@janusmyth</a> reports on Dhaka’s recent FP moves. <a href="https://t.co/Ia2wYD8ypJ">https://t.co/Ia2wYD8ypJ</a></p>— Suhasini Haidar (@suhasinih) <a href="https://twitter.com/suhasinih/status/1286873140878929921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
India will hand over 10 railway locomotives to Bangladesh on Monday, reflecting a renewed focus on the “neighbourhood first” policy to bolster economic ties and connectivity within the region amid the border standoff with China.
The handover of the broad gauge diesel locomotives, part of grant assistance from the Indian side, is in line with a commitment by New Delhi during Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina’s visit last October, people familiar with developments said on condition of anonymity.
The locomotives will be handed over during a virtual event to be joined by external affairs minister S Jaishankar and railways minister Piyush Goyal and their Bangladeshi counterparts AK Abdul Momen and Mohammed Nurul Islam Sujon, as well as envoys of the two countries and senior officials.
The handover will come close on the heels of the first cross-border container train reaching Bangladesh on Sunday with 50 containers of FMCG goods and fabrics.
Last week, the two sides marked a notable achievement in maritime connectivity with the first shipment of container cargo from Kolkata to Agartala in the landlocked northeastern region via Bangladesh’s Chattogram port.
The connectivity initiatives with Bangladesh coincide with other moves by India to shore up relations with key neighbours amid the standoff with China. In reject weeks, New Delhi has kept a wary eye on stepped up activities by Beijing in regional capitals such as Kathmandu, Male and Colombo. The people cited above believe China was behind Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan’s recent outreach to his Bangladeshi counterpart.
On Saturday, India announced a $400-million currency swap facility for Sri Lanka under the Saarc framework, and Colombo’s request for a bilateral swap facility for $1.1 billion is also being considered by New Delhi.
The Indian mission in Male, in a statement on Sunday to mark the Maldives’ Independence Day, said India had provided $400 million through an extended currency swap arrangement to tide over a liquidity shortage and will soon “announce another substantial financial assistance package” to help post-Covid-19 economic recovery.
The people said India-Bangladesh railway cooperation is a vital element of efforts to promote trade and connectivity. Both sides are working to enhance rail connectivity by developing new projects and restoring old links. Currently, the four operational rail links between the two sides, all of which originate in West Bengal, are Petrapole-Benapole, Gede-Darshana, Singhabad-Rohanpur, and Radhikapur–Birol.
The first container train that reached Bangladesh on Sunday left the Container Corporation of India Ltd’s (CONCOR) terminal at Majerhat near Kolkata on Friday and crossed over using the Benapole-Petrapole link.
This container train will now be a regular service connecting CONCOR terminals in India to stations in Bangladesh such as Benapole, Jessore, Singia, Noapara and Bangabandhu Setu West, Indian officials said. The two sides signed an MoU for the service in April 2017 and a trial run was conducted in April 2018.
There are also two passenger trains – Bandhan Express from Kolkata to Khulna and Maitree Express from Kolkata to Dhaka – though services are temporarily suspended due to the pandemic.
Seventeen railway projects with a commitment of $2.44 billion were included in assistance extended by India to Bangladesh. India has offered lines of credit for these projects at a rate of interest of 1% a year, with repayment over 20 years with a moratorium for five years.
Nine projects have been completed, including supply of wagons and equipment. The Kulaura-Shahbazpur line, being built at a cost of $78 million, is set to be completed by the end of this year, and the Khulna-Mongla line worth $389 million is set for completion by June 2021. A cross-border link of 12 km between Agartala and Akhaura is set to be completed by March 2021 and will enhance freight and passenger connectivity between the rest of India and the northeastern states.
Experts believe the attention given to ties with Bangladesh is part of efforts to overcome the impact of the Citizenship (Amendment) Act (CAA) on bilateral relations. Bangladesh’s leadership was irked by reports that illegal migrants in states such as Assam would be deported to the neighbouring country.
Maya Mirchandani, senior fellow at Observer Research Foundation and professor of media studies at Ashoka University, said: “We’ve neglected the neighbourhood for some time. Bangladesh has been upset since CAA was passed, and the perception it has created about ethnic Bengali Muslims in particular.”
She added: “In the current context, with Chinese adventurism on India’s borders, it is imperative for Delhi to be less dismissive of neighbours falling into China’s ‘debt trap’ and be more pro-active about repairing ties that have been starved for attention.”
https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...-bangladesh/story-TZ2enN1ZZH2OULNP9yNtLL.html
China takes Bangladesh into its embrace now as Delhi-Dhaka ties go downhill
New Delhi: India is concerned that China, which has been “targeting all of India’s friendly neighbours” such as Nepal and Sri Lanka, will now focus on turning Bangladesh against New Delhi, at a time when Dhaka is already unhappy over the National Register of Citizens (NRC) and a host of other issues, ThePrint has learnt.
The ongoing India-China standoff has not just given rise to apprehensions of a potential disruption of bilateral ties between New Delhi and Beijing, it has also made the Narendra Modi government even more wary of President Xi Jinping’s growing influence in Bangladesh, which at present is the closest to India in the neighbourhood.
From developing a mega smart city near Dhaka to building an airport in Sylhet in eastern Bangladesh, besides a growing defence relationship, China has been making deep inroads in that country, much to New Delhi’s discontent.
India believes Beijing will now ratchet up pressure on Dhaka to hand over certain lucrative infrastructure and connectivity projects to it in an effort to “provoke” New Delhi, official sources told ThePrint.
“The challenge is all around. From Nepal to Bangladesh, China is targeting all of India’s friendly neighbours one by one,” a top government official, who did not wish to be identified, told ThePrint. “The concern now has doubled with the Chinese Communist Party paving the way for Pakistan to enter Bangladesh.”
Beijing also could not find a better time as Dhaka is currently unhappy with New Delhi.
The friendly relationship between India and Bangladesh, particularly political ties, have been plummeting ever since New Delhi rolled out the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) as Dhaka is concerned that India will push towards it those who will be deemed “foreigners” under the National Register of Citizens (NRC).
https://theprint.in/diplomacy/china...e-now-as-delhi-dhaka-ties-go-downhill/471769/China’s Dhaka play
Of late, the Chinese have been working on improving ties with Bangladesh.
This month onwards, China will allow 97 per cent of Bangladesh’s exports to Beijing to enter the country under its duty-free, quota-free programme. This was decided after a phone call between Xi and Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina in June.
With this move, as many as 8,256 Bangladeshi items will enjoy duty-free access to Chinese markets.
“China has always been playing these tactics and putting pressure on India’s neighbouring countries and it has been making rapid progress in doing so,” said Veena Sikri, former High Commissioner of India to Bangladesh. “India should work harder now, especially, in a post-Covid scenario, keeping in mind that Beijing’s pressure will only increase.”
She added, “It may seem the Chinese implement projects quickly, but they have problems also. They come in with a friendly price but increase it for spare parts and all. While India gives them favourable rates for lines of credit, the Chinese lay a debt trap.”
Earlier this year, Bangladesh sought Chinese funding to develop nine new projects worth $6.4 billion, which include a sea port, a bridge and hi-tech parks among others.
China is already implementing $10 billion worth of infrastructure projects in Bangladesh, which includes economic zones and power plants.
China and Bangladesh have also been deepening their defence ties. From Chinese tanks, frigates, submarines and fighter jets, Beijing has provided Dhaka with a number of military equipment under a 2002 Defence Cooperation Agreement.
“China has always been present in Bangladesh, including in the defence sector, but India’s sensitivity has naturally increased after the Ladakh standoff,” emphasised Constantino Xavier, fellow (Foreign Policy Studies), Brookings India and the Brookings Institution, Washington DC. “Delhi is now pushing Dhaka to reduce its relations with China and Dhaka is naturally pushing back so it can receive maximum benefits from China without upsetting India.”
According to Joyeeta Bhattacharjee, fellow with the Observer Research Foundation (ORF), the Chinese have invested much less than what it had promised in Bangladesh so far.
“It is uncanny to compare India and China. Relations between the two countries should be free of comparison with a third country,” she noted in a report, in which she argued that the duty-free access given by the Chinese to Bangladeshi products comes with stringent clauses.
Bangladesh is also one of the key countries in the region for Xi’s flagship Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). China and Bangladesh established strategic ties in 2016 during Xi’s visit there when he also announced an investment to the tune of $25 billion.
In 2019, Bangladesh signed an MoU with a Chinese firm to build renewable energy projects to provide a total of 500 megawatts of power by 2023.
Pakistan reaches out to Bangladesh
India’s diplomatic community is now faced with a double whammy as Islamabad is also attempting to build a bridge with Dhaka.
“When China is there, Pakistan can never be far behind,” said another source, who added that New Delhi is closely watching the developments.
In a surprise move, Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan called his Bangladeshi counterpart Sheikh Hasina for the first time on 23 July and spoke about Islamabad’s commitment “deepening fraternal relations with Bangladesh on the basis of mutual trust, mutual respect and sovereign equality”.
This came after Pakistan’s envoy to Dhaka, Imran Siddiqui, met Bangladesh’s Foreign Minister A.K. Abdul Momen.
“We want stronger relations with brotherly Bangladesh in all walks of life. We share common bonds of history, religion and culture,” Siddiqui said.
According to Selim Raihan, Professor (Economics), Dhaka University and Executive Director, South Asian Network on Economic Modeling (SANEM), there’s a friendship deficit in the India-Bangladesh ties.
“There has been some discomfort in Bangladesh on its expectations from India,” Raihan said. “Bangladesh has been most friendly to India compared to others in the region, yet the reciprocity from India’s side has been rather weak.”
He added, “The NRC has created a lot of discomfort in Bangladesh.”
Apart from that, Raihan said, there has been no movement from the Indian side on the Teesta water-sharing pact. “India has to take a larger leadership role in the South Asian region and it has to accommodate all issues it has with others with a broad perspective.”
Sharing of the Teesta river water has been a longstanding contentious issue between India and Bangladesh. The river originates from Sikkim and passes through West Bengal before finally merging with Brahmaputra in Assam and Jamuna in Bangladesh.
Dhaka wants 50 per cent share of the river’s water for the December-March period. During his visit to Dhaka in 2015, Prime Minister Modi had promised his Bangladeshi counterpart Sheikh Hasina that the matter will be resolved soon. There has, however, been little progress so far.
Apart from the NRC saga and the pending Teesta water-sharing agreement, Bangladesh is now also concerned that India will restrict movement of people coming into India citing the pandemic, which will impact Bangladeshi migrant labourers, according to sources in Dhaka.
Bangladesh wants India to move faster on projects
India’s own record of implementing projects in its neighbourhood has been “abysmally poor”, which pushes neighbouring countries more towards China, said the sources in Dhaka.
It is no different in Bangladesh where a number of Indian projects have not really taken off or are moving at an extremely slow pace.
While power projects announced by Reliance Power and the Adani Group remain at nascent stages, projects such as Akhaura-Agartala rail link, dredging of inland waterways and construction of India-Bangladesh Friendship Pipeline are all moving at a snail’s pace.
Bangladesh is also miffed with India for not giving a significant push to SAARC and BIMSTEC that would boost regional trading and connectivity. Besides, the Bangladesh-Bhutan-India-Nepal Motor Vehicles Agreement has also not been making much progress.
“For the time being, this is mostly a signalling game and relations between India and Bangladesh appear to remain strong and even better than ever before,” said Xavier of Brookings India. “But beyond political slogans of Neighbourhood First or India First, China’s growing influence in Bangladesh is forcing India and Bangladesh to establish an increasingly transactional relationship.”
Recently, in a landmark move last week, the first trans-shipment of goods (iron and pulses) from Kolkata to India’s North-East took place through Bangladesh’s Chittagong port.
Bangladesh is the biggest development partner of India today. India has extended three Lines of Credit to Bangladesh in the last eight years amounting to $8 billion for development of infrastructure in various sectors including roads, railways, shipping and ports.
On Monday, India also granted 10 diesel broad gauge diesel locomotives to Bangladesh. “Bangladesh needs both India as well as China for its economic growth. The Bangladesh government wants more and more foreign funds for many of its infrastructure projects,” Raihan said. “India is our closest neighbour, so our expectations are more from her but it lacks the capacity to implement the projects compared to China, so there are some gaps.”
There are plenty of illegal Indians everywhere too. Many in Mexico as well hoping to cross over in to America so they are in no position to complain about the Bangladeshis in India. The protests in Bangladesh will die down now that Modi has returned home.
What kind of logic is that? Every country has to deal with illegal immigrants whether its Indians or any other nationals.
Logic is simple sport! Don't condemn others for what your people do themselves.
Every single Bangladeshi I've met in America has a strong contempt for Modi
You can’t go by that. Most Pakistanis I have met in USA enjoy a drink, not too hung up on religion and indulge in most activities which are considered haraam in their country, I thought Pakistanis were pious and religious people who stand up for the tenets but total contrast in real life to what I see online or read elsewhere. I would generalize carefully.
lol someones in denial, there are mass protests in Bangladesh. Muslims in general do not like Modi or any Hindu supremacist, period. What do you expect? It's only indians that are drinking the koolaid, the rest of the world isn't a fan of the butcher of gujarat.
So according to your logic no one should condemn any thing because every kind of person does some mistake?
What was the reason for stone pelting? Those stones can crack skulls if they hit. Thankfully Indian tourists were more civilized than them.This is what the Indian media doesn't want to talk about.
This is what the Indian media doesn't want to talk about.
Borders work. Illegal Bangladeshis in India need to be sent back and the border needs to be closed.
It's not in anyone's interest to have Bangladeshis to come in and do labour.
But this stupid government won't do it.
Your and my state are the biggest victims of those illegal Bangladeshi immigrants.Which stupid government?
When the present government tries to deport illegal immigrants, who is moving to supreme court?
Your and my state are the biggest victims of those illegal Bangladeshi immigrants.
Bro, if you have an Assamese friend then ask him the type of things that happened during the Tarun Gogoi government in Assam. Hundreds of thousands of illegal Bangladeshi immigrants found their place in my state during his tenure as CM from 2001 till 2016.Reminds me how the infrastructure of my city has suffered. How demographics have changed.
I guess you meant NRC?Bangladesh opposition parties are going mad as India already implemented CAA. The biggest blow is for Bangladeshi illegal migrants. Very soon India start deportation
Also Modi government implementing UCC in 3rd term which will result more illegal migrants fled to Bangladesh.
If large number of illegal migrants returned to Bangladesh, then Bangladesh’s economy will collapse… Bangladeshi opposition don’t want this.
I guess you meant NRC?
Drastically needed.All India NRC is needed.
In 3rd term Modi government fully implement NRC and UCC and should deport all illegal migrants to Senitel IslandAll India NRC is needed.
I think Assamese people will benefit the most if NRC is property implemented.Drastically needed.
I think Assamese people will benefit the most if NRC is property implemented.
I've said it before but an all India register of citizens is a pipe dream. Forget a register of citizens...we haven't been able to conduct a census since 2011. If you start examining people's documents...you'll find millions of folks undocumented. There'll be social unrest on a scale unprecedented.Drastically needed.
I've said it before but an all India register of citizens is a pipe dream. Forget a register of citizens...we haven't been able to conduct a census since 2011. If you start examining people's documents...you'll find millions of folks undocumented. There'll be social unrest on a scale unprecedented.
Bro, read this. And then some people wonder why we Assamese people hate these Miyas (illegal immigrants).We residents of West Bengal will benefit most