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[VIDEOS] Old fear unlocked (again): Pakistan batters against Afghanistan spinners

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Babar and Rizwan took plenty of heat for Pakistan’s struggles against spin. Critics called for change, fresh faces, new intent. But here we are—new names, same old story. Rashid, Noor, and Mujeeb exposed the same weakness again. It’s not about who’s batting. It’s about how we bat against spin. And that problem hasn’t moved an inch.

It’s not about one player or another. It’s a deeper issue, and it’s still unsolved. Pakistan’s batters looked lost. No answers, no footwork, just trouble.

 
I'm not too concerned

Handled their spinners pretty well in the first game

Salman run out was key and Hassan Nawaz was unlucky

Those two are the best players of spin and they never got a proper crack at them

M. Haris and Faheem are the two poorer amongst the bunch

As for Fakhar Zaman, he is hell bent on smacking Nabi no matter what for some reason, but he is an excellent player of spin and needs to be a bit more cautious and rotate strike against Nabi because he bowls really well against lefties
 
I'm not too concerned

Handled their spinners pretty well in the first game

Salman run out was key and Hassan Nawaz was unlucky

Those two are the best players of spin and they never got a proper crack at them

M. Haris and Faheem are the two poorer amongst the bunch

As for Fakhar Zaman, he is hell bent on smacking Nabi no matter what for some reason, but he is an excellent player of spin and needs to be a bit more cautious and rotate strike against Nabi because he bowls really well against lefties
Nope, Fakhar needs to execute his shots better against Nabi if he wants to take him down. The meltdown from yesterday's game from our fans clearly shows the difference in mindset between us and top teams' fans.
 
Nope, Fakhar needs to execute his shots better against Nabi if he wants to take him down. The meltdown from yesterday's game from our fans clearly shows the difference in mindset between us and top teams' fans.
That's exactly what I just said about Fakhar, he needs to stop going after every ball of Nabi like he has some personal vendetta against him or something

As for the reaction, it is ridiculous!

Afg beat Aus and reached the semi's of the WC, so they have pedigree in this format
 
Haris is the worst player of spin in the current side.. Salman is the best one and Hassan Nawaz being the 2nd best... Fakhar is okish... Rest of the team is all clueless... There is some serious problem there
 
These are quality spinners, that have beaten much better teams than ours. Our batters need to do some serious home work and come back in the next game to execute their strokes better.

India and Sri Lanka also have quality spin that will strangle this batting line-up on Dubai pitches.
 
These are quality spinners, that have beaten much better teams than ours. Our batters need to do some serious home work and come back in the next game to execute their strokes better.

India and Sri Lanka also have quality spin that will strangle this batting line-up on Dubai pitches.
Tbh afghan spinners will beat most teams barring india so i am not too upset about it actually pakistan played their spinners pretty well in first game so plan should be the same again
 
Ramiz Raja speaking on his YouTube channel:

“Although Afghanistan officially won the match by 18 runs, they had effectively sealed victory much earlier because Pakistani batters, even after getting set at the crease, threw their wickets away.”

"It wasn’t just one or two players, none of them learned from their mistakes. This time, they found new and bizarre ways to get out, which is beyond understanding."

"This was a 170-run pitch, nothing more than that. The Sharjah pitch plays differently, but if you go out there already ready to get out and play these short, flashy innings of 10, 15, 20 or 25 runs, you simply can’t win matches."

"It’s clear now, Afghanistan no longer sees a win over Pakistan as an upset. This Afghan team has confidence. They know Pakistan struggles against them, and to me, it looks like Pakistan has developed a mental block when facing Afghanistan."

"Afghanistan has now beaten Pakistan four times, while Pakistan has won five matches, with the once-large margin between the two sides narrowing significantly."

"Pakistan made several mistakes with the bat on this pitch. A total of 170 was easily achievable. Yes, Haris Rauf had a bad day and conceded too many runs, but the way Pakistan is batting and the direction they’re heading in they will only find defeat on this path."

"Look at how Afghanistan batted, with patience, hitting big shots when needed and also playing regular, sensible cricket. Zadran played a magnificent innings.”

"He has done this before too, like in the Champions Trophy against England, when he played a brilliant knock that helped Afghanistan win that match as well."
 
Nope, Fakhar needs to execute his shots better against Nabi if he wants to take him down. The meltdown from yesterday's game from our fans clearly shows the difference in mindset between us and top teams' fans.
Fakhar has played over 100 T20 games and last couple of years have been way worse than Babar and Rizwan in strike rate as well

Criticizing him is not meltdown.
 
Tbh afghan spinners will beat most teams barring india so i am not too upset about it actually pakistan played their spinners pretty well in first game so plan should be the same again
They can even beat India at Sharjah. There is a reason why India prefers playing in Dubai.
 
They can even beat India at Sharjah. There is a reason why India prefers playing in Dubai.
Yet again talking nonsense , india has stopped playing at Sharjah long time ago.

Current Sharjah pitches are better for batting with smaller boundary size than Dubai Where spinners get enough help ( More than Sharjah)

India is not dependent on conditions to win , we will beat any sides at anywhere in the world specially in T20 cricket.

:klopp :kp
 
Fakhar has played over 100 T20 games and last couple of years have been way worse than Babar and Rizwan in strike rate as well

Criticizing him is not meltdown.
SR has been way worse than Rizwan and Babar last couple of years?

Any stats to back this up?
:yk

I’ll save you the embarrassment, he has not had a SR ‘way worse’ than RizBar. Rizwan has a strike rate of 110 in the past two years, while Babar’s is comparable.

It’s not good enough, but stop posting for the sake of it.
 
Pakistan players generally lack first class experience. They arrive in t20’s on the back of a few good performances in PSL where they can biff the ball against mediocre attacks on dead pitches. Therefore when they play quality spin on responsive, gripping surfaces their lack of technique and temperament gets found out. Unfortunately there is no easy solution and we can’t keep treating international cricket as a finishing school.
 
Yet again talking nonsense , india has stopped playing at Sharjah long time ago.

Current Sharjah pitches are better for batting with smaller boundary size than Dubai Where spinners get enough help ( More than Sharjah)

India is not dependent on conditions to win , we will beat any sides at anywhere in the world specially in T20 cricket.

:klopp :kp
Dubai doesn't assist spinners as much as Sharjah. First play at Sharjah or in Bangladesh and then talk.
 
Haris is the worst player of spin in the current side.. Salman is the best one and Hassan Nawaz being the 2nd best... Fakhar is okish... Rest of the team is all clueless... There is some serious problem there
My point proven once again... This side is useless against Spin, especially that guy who is everyone's favourite nowadays, HARIS... Useless and waste of space in the 11
 
The only way to counter is to lunge forward

Get down on one knee

Get the slog sweep out

Connect.

Send it to the next Arab Emirate.

If you can’t pick it, might as well slog that little Maphaka to the next postcode!
 
Haris is the worst player of spin in the current side.. Salman is the best one and Hassan Nawaz being the 2nd best... Fakhar is okish... Rest of the team is all clueless... There is some serious problem there

What about Babar?
 
What about Babar?
I mentioned the same thing in OP... people were crying that babar has problems against spin but now they seem to be keeping quiet because other players are pathetic as well.. There is a problem in the camp and not just in any individual...
 
BRO... t20 world cup and Asia Cup are not bilateral series..
I honestly think that he meant India has 3-0 record against BD on that venue. However, he was wrong when stating that "India won 3-0." Instead he should have said that India won 3 out of 3 T20I matches vs BD there. But he won't understand that he made a mistake and will keep arguing.
 
I'm not too concerned

Handled their spinners pretty well in the first game

Salman run out was key and Hassan Nawaz was unlucky

Those two are the best players of spin and they never got a proper crack at them

M. Haris and Faheem are the two poorer amongst the bunch

As for Fakhar Zaman, he is hell bent on smacking Nabi no matter what for some reason, but he is an excellent player of spin and needs to be a bit more cautious and rotate strike against Nabi because he bowls really well against lefties
For me FZ always has a hard time vs their (Afghanistan) spinners.
 
We already played in Bangladesh that's too at Mirpur and smashed Bangladesh 3-0 in a T20 series :klopp :kp

Indian team played 3 T20 at Mirpur ( one in world T20, 2 in Asia cup ) . Total 3 match and won 3-0 :shh:kp

You didn't said T20 series ? Lying has become national habit for these folks.

On topic, atleast Pakistan faces its fears and plays Afghanistan on spin friendly tracks. Now compare that with a team like India who avoids these situations at any cost. Pakistan was made to play Afghanistan at Chennai (assists spin) in WC23 while India played against them in Dehli ! We shouldn't be making excuses but context matters.
 
You didn't said T20 series ? Lying has become national habit for these folks.

On topic, atleast Pakistan faces its fears and plays Afghanistan on spin friendly tracks. Now compare that with a team like India who avoids these situations at any cost. Pakistan was made to play Afghanistan at Chennai (assists spin) in WC23 while India played against them in Dehli ! We shouldn't be making excuses but context matters.
Also Pakistan was made to play USA on flat wickets of Dallas. But a team with Babar and Rizwan decided to face it's fears. India faced the same opponent in New York.
 
Pakistan's struggle against spin is a never-ending story... People used to blame Babar for his pathetic game against spin and now look at the current squad... They are clueless as well... Afghan boys are no joke, They are the best ones out there.
 
FZ, Salman & Hassan are good versus spin.

However, our lower middle order and tail are ducks versus spin (Nawaz / Faheem).

That is my only concern which may make us 20/25 short.
 
FZ, Salman & Hassan are good versus spin.

However, our lower middle order and tail are ducks versus spin (Nawaz / Faheem).

That is my only concern which may make us 20/25 short.

Let's see if they can rise up to the occasion.
 
I'm not too concerned

Handled their spinners pretty well in the first game

Salman run out was key and Hassan Nawaz was unlucky

Those two are the best players of spin and they never got a proper crack at them

M. Haris and Faheem are the two poorer amongst the bunch

As for Fakhar Zaman, he is hell bent on smacking Nabi no matter what for some reason, but he is an excellent player of spin and needs to be a bit more cautious and rotate strike against Nabi because he bowls really well against lefties
Like I said, I'm not too concerned about Pakistan against spin

This was a 120 run pitch and any other team would have capitulated to that against these Afghan spinners

Pak have superior players of spin than all the teams in T20

This bodes very well for the T20 world cup in SL
 
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