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[VIDEOS] On This Day: November 16, 1981 - The Javed Miandad vs Dennis Lillee incident in Perth

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> 1981 in Perth. It was one of the ugliest incidents in cricket history as Javed Miandad and Dennis Lillee clashed <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/cBTvPkxSvt">pic.twitter.com/cBTvPkxSvt</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/931070438108749824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Absolutely disgraceful and Thank GOD we never saw a repeat of anything so violent.
 
Could use a bit more aggression for our next tour Down Under. Need to seek inspiration from the Minadad School of Psychological Cricket Warfare.
 
Possibly the most shameful incident in the sport. The blame lies entirely with Lillee for instigating it. Although I'll say that Miandad should have handled it better.
 
Possibly the most shameful incident in the sport. The blame lies entirely with Lillee for instigating it. Although I'll say that Miandad should have handled it better.
Lay down after someone deliberately kicks you and than have the ACB director state that after multiple viewings of the incident, the Australian team found Miandad responsible despite Lillee throwing the first strike?
 
Need more characters like Miandad in Pakistani team. Ofcourse it shouldnt get so ugly like this incident but players shouldnt take any nonsense from the opposition.
 
Miandad showed him who is who.

I am sure a mature Lillee understands it.

It was an ugly incident but I don't blame JM the way he acted after receiving a kick with his back towards Lillee.
 
Lay down after someone deliberately kicks you and than have the ACB director state that after multiple viewings of the incident, the Australian team found Miandad responsible despite Lillee throwing the first strike?

I'm not putting the blame at Miandad at all, it was all because of Lillee. I just believe that what Miandad did wasn't appropriate. Let's put emotions aside, would you say it was appropriate?
 
I'm not putting the blame at Miandad at all, it was all because of Lillee. I just believe that what Miandad did wasn't appropriate. Let's put emotions aside, would you say it was appropriate?
He didn't hit him, did he? Pulled out his bat at the last moment. I actually loved Lillee for that because it was entertaining. Cricket needs more showmanship.
 
I'm not putting the blame at Miandad at all, it was all because of Lillee. I just believe that what Miandad did wasn't appropriate. Let's put emotions aside, would you say it was appropriate?

What should he had done - declare like Sunny & concede that match? Do you know how dirty these Aussie cricketers are? If they can't get you out, they'll throw everything at your wife, mother, daughter - if it still doesn't work, they'll do it linking your batting partner - Javed probably overcame that as well, so Lillee had to go for a contact.

Only thing Javed did wrong is that he should have broken that bat on Lillee's knee. You'll be surprised that, after that Test, both Javed & Lillee was fined equally ($200) and ACB banned Lille for 2 Shield matches!!!!!!!!!
 
^^ Just to add, Shahriar Nafees was a teenager (well about 20-21 at actual) in 2005 and he batted a fantastic innings of 140+ at probably 75 SR in 2005 against Warne, McGill, Lee & Gillespee - bowlers at least 10-15 years older than him. And, this guy is the son of an Army Officer, educated in English medium ...... This guy told one of his friends about the verbal gang abuse that those dirty mouth Aussies including WK Gilly & Captain Ponting gave him for the entire day - in fact he even said that many times after few hours of batting, he was even think to throw it away & go back, because English wasn't an issue for him.
 
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I've seen that. And honestly that was just disgraceful behaviour by Lillee. But then you know Australians. And their umpires, commentators and board would stand behind their filthy players no matter who's at fault.
 
I've seen that. And honestly that was just disgraceful behaviour by Lillee. But then you know Australians. And their umpires, commentators and board would stand behind their filthy players no matter who's at fault.

Ian Chappell very harshly criticized Lillee for the incident and even wanted a ban on him.
 
It wasn't a kick, it was a little prod with the toe. Still completely puerile and unprofessional. Old DK lacked self control at times. It might have stirred up crowd trouble.

Much worse was Croft shoulder-charging the ump.
 
Lillee was a bit of a bully and thought he could push the Pakistanis around, which if I'm being honest he could with most of them. Javed however was a different kettle of fish :)
 
Lillee was a bit of a bully and thought he could push the Pakistanis around, which if I'm being honest he could with most of them. Javed however was a different kettle of fish :)

HaHa ... well said. He took panga with the wrong man :))
 
Miandad changed the perception of Pakistani cricketers around the world. I remember my dad saying to me that too often Pakistani cricketers would be bullied and mocked by the likes of England when on tour, as if they were too scared to upset their hosts.

However Miandad got stuck into any opposition and didn't care who they were. He gave back verbals and stood for no nonsense.
 
He didn't hit him, did he? Pulled out his bat at the last moment. I actually loved Lillee for that because it was entertaining. Cricket needs more showmanship.

Showmanship yes, but even Lillee knows he crossed the line there. It was a little tap with his foot, but you need to respect that physically touching the batsman outside the context of the game is a hard no line. He could have just told Miandad that he deserved a kick in the bum for being so annoying etc, but you can't ever do it.

I think Miandad had a choice to laugh it off and look weak/lower his teams morale or to react strongly and show them to fight. Probably the right choice, as I think his reaction was part showmanship too.
 
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Miandad changed the perception of Pakistani cricketers around the world. I remember my dad saying to me that too often Pakistani cricketers would be bullied and mocked by the likes of England when on tour, as if they were too scared to upset their hosts.

However Miandad got stuck into any opposition and didn't care who they were. He gave back verbals and stood for no nonsense.

Everyone in Oz who watched that era remembers Miandad quite fondly for it too. Fun to watch because he would stick it to the bowler, play "drive the captain crazy" with his placement of singles etc. You could really see the contest and he was a bit of a larrikin, which Aussies appreciate.
 
Lillee is perhaps the best fast the game has seen, and his tactics of bullying the opposition worked very well but as has been said by many- Miandad was a born street fighter and this was right up his alley.
 
I really wish we can find Miandad like characters again. Our cricketers are too soft on the opposition.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> 1981. Javed Miandad nearly wrapped his bat around the head of Dennis Lillee in Perth <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/q64Pcnfzyi">pic.twitter.com/q64Pcnfzyi</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1063344674214223872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Possibly the most shameful incident in the sport. The blame lies entirely with Lillee for instigating it. Although I'll say that Miandad should have handled it better.

Yeah, bad behaviour from both of them but Lillee started the trouble. Not what you would expect from an iconic player.
 
Yeah, bad behaviour from both of them but Lillee started the trouble. Not what you would expect from an iconic player.

The only thing you can blame Miandad for is pulling out of that bat swing midway.

A quick swing at the ribs would have done DK and Australian cricket a lot of good.
 
The only thing you can blame Miandad for is pulling out of that bat swing midway.

A quick swing at the ribs would have done DK and Australian cricket a lot of good.

So you propose violence on the field in international cricket. What a silly comment. Australian cricket personified by Greg Chappell and umpire Tony Crafter defused a nasty situation. Else there would have been escalation, perhaps even a pitch invasion in which case Javed and the blameless Mansoor would have been manhanded by an angry crowd.
 
So you propose violence on the field in international cricket. What a silly comment. Australian cricket personified by Greg Chappell and umpire Tony Crafter defused a nasty situation. Else there would have been escalation, perhaps even a pitch invasion in which case Javed and the blameless Mansoor would have been manhanded by an angry crowd.

I believe this incident is the biggest black mark in Lillee's career. Really poor of such an iconic cricketer to stoop to something like he did. Miandad was a tool of the highest order throughout his career, but here the blame lies completely with Lillee. Pretty sure even he would regret it looking back at it now.
 
So you propose violence on the field in international cricket. What a silly comment. Australian cricket personified by Greg Chappell and umpire Tony Crafter defused a nasty situation. Else there would have been escalation, perhaps even a pitch invasion in which case Javed and the blameless Mansoor would have been manhanded by an angry crowd.

If people don't want violence on the cricket field then cricketers shouldn't be kicking people around like a spoilt toddler.

If someone not thrown punches and kicks on a field, then it's fair game to throw one back. There was no room to hide behind the "sanctity of the sports" once that line was by Lillee.


There is no horse for you sit high atop on. Because DK Lillee kicked the barn door down.
 
If people don't want violence on the cricket field then cricketers shouldn't be kicking people around like a spoilt toddler.

If someone has thrown punches and kicks on a field, then it's fair game to throw one back. There was no room to hide behind the "sanctity of the sports" once that line was crossed by Lillee.


There is no horse for you sit high atop on. Because DK Lillee kicked the barn door down.

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@Saj,
Like you - I think - I'm from the north of England and relatively neutral.

And I have to say, Lillee was bad, but Miandad was actually the Agent Provocateur!

Lillee and Miandad were as bad as each other in this incident. Miandad chirped on an on and on like Dave Warner for his entire career, and when he was on the pitch bad blood was never far away.

Both players attempted to encroach in one another's space as the run was taken, and then Lillee did that moronic toe poke.

But I'm a bit older than you are, and what was astonishing was what happened after the incident.

The Aussie players found Lillee guilty but gave him an insultingly small fine. The Australian Cricket Board sent Lillee to the Pakistani dressing room to apologise.

And the Pakistan team manager ordered Miandad to refuse to accept the apology!

Who, you might ask, was the diplomatic genius who turned an apology into a vendetta?

Well, his name was Mr Ijaz Butt.

Need I say any more?

As for [MENTION=131470]gazza619[/MENTION] , well my friend it was just a year later that the Pakistan players refused to play under Javed Miandad's captaincy and Imran Khan ended up taking over.


I'm all for competitive cricketers. But while Imran Khan was aggressive as a cricketer, Javed Miandad was just obnoxious.
 
If people don't want violence on the cricket field then cricketers shouldn't be kicking people around like a spoilt toddler.

If someone not thrown punches and kicks on a field, then it's fair game to throw one back. There was no room to hide behind the "sanctity of the sports" once that line was by Lillee.


There is no horse for you sit high atop on. Because DK Lillee kicked the barn door down.


Ehhhhhhh....... I already said Lillee started it.

There was no punch or kick, there was a prod with a toe.

Your way is that of the schoolyard which would have meant an actual fist fight which might have spilled off the pitch and into the stands. Fortunately Chappell and Crafter behaved as adults and calmed things down.
 
Ehhhhhhh....... I already said Lillee started it.

There was no punch or kick, there was a prod with a toe.

Your way is that of the schoolyard which would have meant an actual fist fight which might have spilled off the pitch and into the stands. Fortunately Chappell and Crafter behaved as adults and calmed things down.

I'd rather it end in a school yard fight than let a coward get away with a kick from behind. Different strokes I suppose.
 
Another anniversary of this rather shameful event.
 
Oldish video but the incident remembered in a meeting between Greg Chappell and Javed Miandad

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This “sensitive” and fluffy new age generation would probably disown Javed for not bowing down to Lillee or at the very least patting him on the back, blowing a kiss and having a laugh.
 
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