[VIDEOS] Pakistan become the number 1 ranked team in ODIs

[MenInG]

Agree with Mohammad Wasim?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let’s not forget and appreciate the contributions of Misbah and Saqlain together with Babar Azam in this journey of No1 . <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICCRankings?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ICCRankings</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanZindabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanZindabad</a> <a href="https://t.co/J5EyNVbkvP">pic.twitter.com/J5EyNVbkvP</a></p>— Muhammad Wasim (@MuhammadWasim77) <a href="https://twitter.com/MuhammadWasim77/status/1654758651167485953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote>
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[MenInG]

The reality of this points table - which is why Pakistan HAS to win the 5th ODI

 

[shaz619]

The reality of this points table - which is why Pakistan HAS to win the 5th ODI

Outstanding incredible achievement, never thought I’d ever see this day. Yes it’s not the WC or whatever, but a Pakistan side being rewarded for consistency? that is mind blowing in any context really.

For interesting info, if you apply ICC’s ratings system to results since 1980, Pakistan would have been ranked no.1 between 1990-1991. The 1992 World Cup triumph wasn’t some fluke or tournament the team won due to divine intervention, that plays a part but they were a top team who had prepared for the moment.

 

[Technics 1210]

When Pakistan won the WC - it was a fluke.

When Pakistan won the T20 WC - it was a fluke.

When Pakistan won the CT trophy - it was a fluke.

When Pakistan attained Test rank #1 - it was the rain.

When Pakistan attained T20 rank #1 - it was playing B Teams.

When Pakistan attained ODI rank #1 - it is meaningless.

When Pakistan players are ranked #1 - they are selfish.

Bore off anti Pakistani cretins, Pakistan has proved its doubters wrong, and has confined its haters to the sin bin.

Pakistan Zindabad!

 

[Kroll]

LOL! Who would have thought eh after the days of Misbah?! Changed days indeed.
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and [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], its that time again...


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[Major]

LOL! Who would have thought eh after the days of Misbah?! Changed days indeed.

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and [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], its that time again...


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credit goes to Misbah, Saqlain, Waseem jR and everyone else involved.

 

[Major]

Outstanding incredible achievement, never thought I’d ever see this day. Yes it’s not the WC or whatever, but a Pakistan side being rewarded for consistency? that is mind blowing in any context really.

For interesting info, if you apply ICC’s ratings system to results since 1980, Pakistan would have been ranked no.1 between 1990-1991. The 1992 World Cup triumph wasn’t some fluke or tournament the team won due to divine intervention, that plays a part but they were a top team who had prepared for the moment.

have you applied it or just assuming?

 

[Rana]

LOL! Who would have thought eh after the days of Misbah?! Changed days indeed.

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and [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], its that time again...


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Oh yes baby celebrate our Number 1 ranking

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Most teams had a game rained off in world cup so that's a feeble excuse. Finishing 5th and not making semi finals is not doing well. Pakistan had plenty of other games to help make the semi finals. The pathetic effort vs WI being one of them. Winning a couple of games against finalist and then losing to lesser teams shows how inconsistent Pakistan was.

Only bad game was against WI. Every team has a game rained off but Pakistan was the only one which had a certain win rained off

 

[Jazx]

As far as i remember, was not pakistan number won in ODIs and test in 1994 under saleem malik's captaincy?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Only bad game was against WI. Every team has a game rained off but Pakistan was the only one which had a certain win rained off

Again a lame excuses.

If Pakistan vs England 92 group game wasn't rained off, Pakistan wouldn't have even made the semi finals. So everyone can pick a world cup and use "rain" as a pathetic excuse.

 

[Rana]

credit goes to Misbah, Saqlain, Waseem jR and everyone else involved.

No. Credit goes to our Fixture manager who secured the 5 ODIs against NZ during the IPL

 

[shaz619]

have you applied it or just assuming?

The ICC did that exercise a while back and Pakistan were no.1 in 1990 and 1991, I don’t make assumptions

 

[shamaan]

Good achievement from Pakistan.

 

[Mamoon]

Only bad game was against WI. Every team has a game rained off but Pakistan was the only one which had a certain win rained off

No it was not a certain win. It is just what Pakistani fans tell themselves to feel good about their forgettable World Cup.

If Pakistan could beat England, Sri Lanka could beat England, Bangladesh could beat South Africa and Afghanistan nearly defeated both India and Pakistan, Sri Lanka could also have beaten Pakistan.

Pakistan had a poor World Cup and did not deserve to go through to the semifinals. It had the third worst NRR among the 10 teams.

The current Pakistan ODI side is clearly better than the one that played in the 2019 World Cup.

 

[Amjid Javed]

No it was not a certain win. It is just what Pakistani fans tell themselves to feel good about their forgettable World Cup.

If Pakistan could beat England, Sri Lanka could beat England, Bangladesh could beat South Africa and Afghanistan nearly defeated both India and Pakistan, Sri Lanka could also have beaten Pakistan.

Pakistan had a poor World Cup and did not deserve to go through to the semifinals. It had the third worst NRR among the 10 teams.

The current Pakistan ODI side is clearly better than the one that played in the 2019 World Cup.

Wow so you admit Pakistan had a poor last World Cup.

Now that they are "ranked number 1"

What do you see as the bare minimum acceptable performance for this side at the 2023 World cup?

 

[Mamoon]

Wow so you admit Pakistan had a poor last World Cup.

Now that they are "ranked number 1"

What do you see as the bare minimum acceptable performance for this side at the 2023 World cup?

Semifinal exit would be respectable. Anything less than that would be disappointing.

 

[DRsohail]

He is not in the current ODI squad.

lol, you were talking about lucky charm under him we have won CT, number 1 T20 ranking for long time, but corrupt Sethi is lucky charm nor sarfo.

 

[DRsohail]

Agree with Mohammad Wasim?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let’s not forget and appreciate the contributions of Misbah and Saqlain together with Babar Azam in this journey of No1 . <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICCRankings?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ICCRankings</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanZindabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanZindabad</a> <a href="https://t.co/J5EyNVbkvP">pic.twitter.com/J5EyNVbkvP</a></p>— Muhammad Wasim (@MuhammadWasim77) <a href="https://twitter.com/MuhammadWasim77/status/1654758651167485953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Misbah and saqlain has zero contributions.

 

[Farabi]

It's very strange that people have arguments just to satisfy themselves, Pakistan was low ranked side for long because they were mostly below 5. Now they are not good side but at the top.

Also, it should be noted that, india aus are good teams but they are no more world beaters as they were used to be.. Pak can compete with them and actually can win against them. Pak will not lose 3/0 to these teams as people are claiming it to be..

Pakistan genuinely need spinner, shadab and nawaz is mot good enough at least according to current form. This is where Pak is gonna lose games in world cup

+1 both Shadab and Usama Mir need to play in the WC in India. Likely even Imad Wasim.
Fast bowling, while good, will only play a support role there. Pak Batting is very good now but kind of batting at display from Aus, Eng and Indian is a touch better.

 

[Farabi]

The chest thumping by the prime Minster, Chairman, ex-chairman, ex-players and even current players are just cringe worthy.

Don't know if this is deliberate but Pakistan doesn't deserve No.1 in ODI one bit. Just like Babar is No.1 for playing every meaningless ODI ( even against Zim or Ned), this No.1 is hollow to say the least.

After world cup, Pakistan has played 9 ODI series- Won 7 and Lost 2. On paper , looks good.

4 out of the 7 series wins vs Zim, Ned, SL and WI.
1 against SA C ( due to IPL)
1 against NZ C ( due to IPL)
1 against Aus B ( Rest policy)

On top of that, Babar XI lost 0-3 to a Eng C team. Does a No.1 team loses like that??
All these series Pakistan played its strongest XI even against Zim and Ned.

Enjoy while it lasts, though!

Ranking is based on relative performance. Is Pakistan the only team playing B or C teams during overlap or otherwise. Can you also share the series played by other teams and confirm if they played B or C teams.

I recently checked and saw that India lost to the “SA C” in SA.

 

[Mamoon]

lol, you were talking about lucky charm under him we have won CT, number 1 T20 ranking for long time, but corrupt Sethi is lucky charm nor sarfo.

I was talking specifically about the CT and the ODI ranking, I didn’t say anything about the T20 ranking. Yes, Sarfraz also deserves credit for the CT and the T20 ranking.

In fact, he deserves a lot more credit than Sethi because he was the captain and therefore had way more influence on the results.

However, you cannot expect a chairman to distant himself from success. The chairman appoints the coach, selection panel and captain.

If his appointees succeed, then, by extension, credit goes to the chairman as well just like the chairman should get the blame if they fail.

Every chairman would try to take some credit. Sethi is not doing anything usual. This is nothing compared to the self-promotion Ramiz would have done if Pakistan were to achieving anything significant in his tenure.

 

[daytrader]

Misbah and saqlain has zero contributions.

Saqlain maybe not but Misbah has been involved as a decision maker for the majority of our most successful cricketing period. From our lows of 2007-2009 to our highs now, Misbah was omnipresent. Even the current team has shades of Misbah even after 2 years of his axing as coach.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

this is a false placing, I hope it doesnt detract from some glaring issues int he team, namley:


1. lack of a set middle/lower order that have a power game. Despite some good performances, management dont want Shadab in the middle order. They seem to have bet everything on Ifti. Haris Sohail is continually made of glass sadly. Our options will be further limited by this obsession to keep Shan in the squad.

2. Spin stocks seem quite dry, right now Usama looks the most threatening, but we need Shadab the get back some form.

3. Im hopefully he will get back to it, but Shaheen is still far from his best.

 

[shaz619]

this is a false placing, I hope it doesnt detract from some glaring issues int he team, namley:


1. lack of a set middle/lower order that have a power game. Despite some good performances, management dont want Shadab in the middle order. They seem to have bet everything on Ifti. Haris Sohail is continually made of glass sadly. Our options will be further limited by this obsession to keep Shan in the squad.

2. Spin stocks seem quite dry, right now Usama looks the most threatening, but we need Shadab the get back some form.

3. Im hopefully he will get back to it, but Shaheen is still far from his best.

What is the main issue with Shaheen? it’s his first ODI series in god knows how long, it will take some getting use to, ODI cricket, post injury

 

[shaz619]

No it was not a certain win. It is just what Pakistani fans tell themselves to feel good about their forgettable World Cup.

If Pakistan could beat England, Sri Lanka could beat England, Bangladesh could beat South Africa and Afghanistan nearly defeated both India and Pakistan, Sri Lanka could also have beaten Pakistan.

Pakistan had a poor World Cup and did not deserve to go through to the semifinals. It had the third worst NRR among the 10 teams.

The current Pakistan ODI side is clearly better than the one that played in the 2019 World Cup.

It’s a good team but the middle-lower order need strengthening. 2019 WC there was Hafeez.

I think both Ifti and Imad need to be in the current team.

Imad played some nice cameos down the order in 2019

 

[MenInG]

So that you are all mentally prepared....

If we lose the final game to NZ:

 

[YousafTheBeast]

No it was not a certain win. It is just what Pakistani fans tell themselves to feel good about their forgettable World Cup.

If Pakistan could beat England, Sri Lanka could beat England, Bangladesh could beat South Africa and Afghanistan nearly defeated both India and Pakistan, Sri Lanka could also have beaten Pakistan.

Pakistan had a poor World Cup and did not deserve to go through to the semifinals. It had the third worst NRR among the 10 teams.

The current Pakistan ODI side is clearly better than the one that played in the 2019 World Cup.

No chance. The current ODI team has no middle order and is relying on Ifthikar to come good. Salman Agha is unproven.

The WC19 squad had the same top 3, but with a middle order of Hafeez who was going through a purple patch late in his career, Shoaib Malik and Haris Sohail.

Our bowling in that wc was just as lethal as it is now.

 

[Energy]

Pakistan being No.1 is kind of a big deal.

Who remembers the days when our batsmen struggled to bat 50 overs regularly. 30/4 was normal.

Since 2015 with the arrival of Babar and then Fakhar, Imam later, the batting has found that much needed stability. And now it's a team that is very much suited to ODI cricket.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

LOL, all that Bhangra just to lose the number 1 ranking after a couple of days.

Our fans are something else man

 

[Kroll]

LOL, all that Bhangra just to lose the number 1 ranking after a couple of days.

Our fans are something else man&#55357;&#56834;

TBF, most of it was amusement rather than joy, OP set the tone.

 

[Kianig89]

More than achievement it was like a glitch business as usual resumed

 

[Mamoon]

There are a lot of similarities between the current Pakistan ODI team and India from 2013-2019. A world class top three and a shaky middle-order.

The top 3 would perform 9/10 times but if they have an off-day, things can fall apart pretty quickly.

 

[MenInG]

Good whilst it lasted!

But Pakistan have shown enough spark to make themselves good contenders for the World Cup

 

[BreadPakoda]

Agree with Mohammad Wasim?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let’s not forget and appreciate the contributions of Misbah and Saqlain together with Babar Azam in this journey of No1 . <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICCRankings?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ICCRankings</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanZindabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanZindabad</a> <a href="https://t.co/J5EyNVbkvP">pic.twitter.com/J5EyNVbkvP</a></p>— Muhammad Wasim (@MuhammadWasim77) <a href="https://twitter.com/MuhammadWasim77/status/1654758651167485953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Agree. Mohammad Wasim is too humble to name himself. He too deserves some credit for Pakistan becoming the no. 1 ODI team! It’s a great achievement for Pakistan.

 

[Executioner]

Congratulations to Pakistan! They are shaping up to be one of the favourites for the CWC. Apart from a pace bowling AR and a mystery spinner, all bases are covered

I do feel rankings are a joke because of the disparity of ODIs played between them.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

TBF, most of it was amusement rather than joy, OP set the tone.

Nah, you can see posters getting over excited and calling it the best Pakistan ODI team ever just because of a meaningless ranking.

 

[Snowflake]

Agree with Mohammad Wasim?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let’s not forget and appreciate the contributions of Misbah and Saqlain together with Babar Azam in this journey of No1 . <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICCRankings?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ICCRankings</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanZindabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanZindabad</a> <a href="https://t.co/J5EyNVbkvP">pic.twitter.com/J5EyNVbkvP</a></p>— Muhammad Wasim (@MuhammadWasim77) <a href="https://twitter.com/MuhammadWasim77/status/1654758651167485953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2023</a></blockquote>
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What was our ODI record with Misbah in charge? Can anyone post?

 

[MenInG]

Now...

 

[Snowflake]

Saqlain maybe not but Misbah has been involved as a decision maker for the majority of our most successful cricketing period. From our lows of 2007-2009 to our highs now, Misbah was omnipresent. Even the current team has shades of Misbah even after 2 years of his axing as coach.

Most successful cricketing period? Didn’t he leave us at #6 in the ODIs after his captaincy stint? Misbah’s impact on our ODI team was disastrous to say the least

 

[Kroll]

Most successful cricketing period? Didn’t he leave us at #6 in the ODIs after his captaincy stint? Misbah’s impact on our ODI team was disastrous to say the least

Misbah doesn't understand white ball cricket, was mediocre at it and I think he brought us down to #8/9. If he was still playing as captain, we'd still be targeting 250 totals and crumbling in chases.

 

[Rana]

Lol well that didn’t last did it?

 

[Kroll]

Just shows that rankings should only be confirmed once a series ends.

 

[Rana]

Very proud!

I guess this needs to be deleted?

 

[DRsohail]

I was talking specifically about the CT and the ODI ranking, I didn’t say anything about the T20 ranking. Yes, Sarfraz also deserves credit for the CT and the T20 ranking.

In fact, he deserves a lot more credit than Sethi because he was the captain and therefore had way more influence on the results.

However, you cannot expect a chairman to distant himself from success. The chairman appoints the coach, selection panel and captain.

If his appointees succeed, then, by extension, credit goes to the chairman as well just like the chairman should get the blame if they fail.

Every chairman would try to take some credit. Sethi is not doing anything usual. This is nothing compared to the self-promotion Ramiz would have done if Pakistan were to achieving anything significant in his tenure.

Sethi has done a decent job this time, Lets see.

 

[MenInG]

I guess this needs to be deleted?

Why?

Pakistan were number one. That's just a fact?

 

[Champ_Pal]

Well deserved and congratulations.

 

[Saj]

Oh well.

It was good while it lasted. Even if it was for just 48 hours.

 

[Kroll]

Oh well.

It was good while it lasted. Even if it was for just 48 hours.

And it shouldn't have, Pakistan should have beaten this mediocre NZ side in the final game but decided to take the foot off the pedal. It's as though they wanted to gift a consolation win to them, really unprofessional behaviour.

 

[MenInG]

As per some reports:

There is a "possibility" that Pakistan will be back on top in the ODI Rankings in 3 days when the annual update happens on May 10.

Pakistan's series defeat vs Eng (0-4) in 2019 will no longer be in the cycle and the 0-3 defeat vs Eng in 2021 will have a reduced weightage.

 

[gazza619]

Sethi has done a decent job this time, Lets see.

Correction. Sethi has done nothing!

Our boys were motivated to do well for the no.1 ranking hence the 4 ODI wins. Sethi & Arthur have zero credit.

 

[Amjid Javed]

There are a lot of similarities between the current Pakistan ODI team and India from 2013-2019. A world class top three and a shaky middle-order.

The top 3 would perform 9/10 times but if they have an off-day, things can fall apart pretty quickly.

Similarities? India is greatest team on planet according to you and Pakistan a team with zero talent that is minnow like, now your making comparisons *

 

[Amjid Javed]

As per some reports:

There is a "possibility" that Pakistan will be back on top in the ODI Rankings in 3 days when the annual update happens on May 10.

Pakistan's series defeat vs Eng (0-4) in 2019 will no longer be in the cycle and the 0-3 defeat vs Eng in 2021 will have a reduced weightage.

Wow small mercies of defeat helping the rankings

 

[Farabi]

There are a lot of similarities between the current Pakistan ODI team and India from 2013-2019. A world class top three and a shaky middle-order.

The top 3 would perform 9/10 times but if they have an off-day, things can fall apart pretty quickly.

Your tone towards Pakistan team’s capabilities has evolved as Pak team has grown from strength to strength since 2019. Haven’t seen hyperbole comments like “Pakistan has no talent” and “Pakistan is mediocre”. This is why it’s important not to make extreme statements.

 

[Markhor]

credit goes to Misbah, Saqlain, Waseem jR and everyone else involved.

Thanks also goes to Mickey Arthur who created this top 3 of Fakhar, Imam and Babar in ODIs in 2018 which his successors have been able to benefit from.

 

[hitthestump]

Your tone towards Pakistan team’s capabilities has evolved as Pak team has grown from strength to strength since 2019. Haven’t seen hyperbole comments like “Pakistan has no talent” and “Pakistan is mediocre”. This is why it’s important not to make extreme statements.

That's the beauty of the human mind - you are allowed to change it based on evolving information.

It still feels fairly recent that Imam has really cemented himself as a world class top order batsman and Fakhar seems to have figured out how to be more consistent too.

 

[topspin]

Looking back at this again. This is nothing to be proud of and I say that because PCB is prepared to do anything even if it's detrimental in the long-term. All this so they can achieve a short-term objective. This allows them to chest pump and market themselves as the "no.1 ODI side in the world" when the whole world knows they're a bunch of imposters.

To add some context by what I mean exactly. Lets have a look at the case of Shaheen. He's been bowled to the ground and at risk of a career ending injury because PCB have not allowed him to return after making a full recovery.

He was 50% fit at best during the 2022 WT20 but that didn't stop him delivering because of how good he really is.

PCB doesn't need enemies when it's the biggest enemy of itself.

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan, who had grabbed the number one position briefly on 5 May before losing the final ODI of their five-match home series to New Zealand and slipping back behind Australia, are on 116 points, one more than India.

Pakistan would have remained at the top of the ODI rankings even after the annual update had they completed a 5-0 sweep in the series against New Zealand.

 

[Kroll]

Looking back at this again. This is nothing to be proud of and I say that because PCB is prepared to do anything even if it's detrimental in the long-term. All this so they can achieve a short-term objective. This allows them to chest pump and market themselves as the "no.1 ODI side in the world" when the whole world knows they're a bunch of imposters.

To add some context by what I mean exactly. Lets have a look at the case of Shaheen. He's been bowled to the ground and at risk of a career ending injury because PCB have not allowed him to return after making a full recovery.

He was 50% fit at best during the 2022 WT20 but that didn't stop him delivering because of how good he really is.

PCB doesn't need enemies when it's the biggest enemy of itself.

One thing I am happy about at least its an improvement from the dark days of Misbah/Azhar captaincy during that horrible 4/5 year period. We were in danger of being out of the charts altogether after falling to #9.

Lots of work still do including fixing middle order but I'd take current period over that Misbah era any day.

 

[Mamoon]

Similarities? India is greatest team on planet according to you and Pakistan a team with zero talent that is minnow like, now your making comparisons *

Your tone towards Pakistan team’s capabilities has evolved as Pak team has grown from strength to strength since 2019. Haven’t seen hyperbole comments like “Pakistan has no talent” and “Pakistan is mediocre”. This is why it’s important not to make extreme statements.

Pakistan is still a poor team in Tests and T20Is but they have shown significant improvement in ODIs since the last World Cup.

I really like the top three. They are perfect for this format and the batting depth is very good too as long as they select the right combination.

Only issue is a lack of quality spinner in the middle-overs and poor support for Shaheen who himself has been below par after his injury. Rauf and Naseem are extremely overhyped and not the bowlers their fans - and they themselves - think they are.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Sethi is a good luck charm for Pakistan cricket. 2017 Champions Trophy and now this. May he continue.

He is man of actions.. I expected Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani to do more but Sethi has done a lot more than those two, got a agree with it..

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Pakistan is still a poor team in Tests and T20Is but they have shown significant improvement in ODIs since the last World Cup.

I really like the top three. They are perfect for this format and the batting depth is very good too as long as they select the right combination.

Only issue is a lack of quality spinner in the middle-overs and poor support for Shaheen who himself has been below par after his injury. Rauf and Naseem are extremely overhyped and not the bowlers their fans - and they themselves - think they are.

Wasim jr is a good player but he is not given enough confidence and matches.. I would take him instead of haris rauf in ODIs especially... In Indian conditions for the CWC only reverse swing can save Haris rauf but that will be 5 overs max , remaining 30 balls if he comes when the ball is fresh will get clobbered around the park.

Lacking in spin department but need to use it like what dhoni did when he only had Ashwin as good spinner... he used to give the ball to sehwag , raina, rohit sharma and yuvi quite often to fill the quota of extra spinner along with Jadeja / Mishra / chawla / ojha

 

[Amjid Javed]

Pakistan back to being minnows

 

[Kianig89]

Never took these ranking seriously and Pakistan proving it, our cricket going Hockey way

 

[FearlessRoar]

Pakistan is the the worst team atm. Even Zimbabwe is more potent than PCT

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Make a list of all the posters here that were doing bhangra whilst ignoring the flaws in our team and also the standard of our opposition that got us to number 1.

 

[ahmadharis1]

Did anyone in their right mind honestly believe this was ever the best team in the world lmao

 

[Amjid Javed]

Make a list of all the posters here that were doing bhangra whilst ignoring the flaws in our team and also the standard of our opposition that got us to number 1.

Mamoon was the chief bhangra leader here as usual

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Number 1 ranked team

Joke of the century

 

[ArabKnight]

This is the best Pakistan ODI side since mid 2000s. Fantastic top 3. People can cry about selfishness and bla bla but they clearly have no idea what they are talking about.

Babar, Imam and Fakhar are a blessing for Pakistan. The best top 3 Pakistan has ever had in this format.

This is an embarrassing post.

 

[ArabKnight]

Number 1 ranked team

Joke of the century

Cut them some slack man!!!

They’re the lumber 1 ranked international team in Punjab!

 

[YousafTheBeast]

This is an embarrassing post.

You’ll find quite a lot from Mamoon tbf

 

[ArabKnight]

If this is so called best team since mid 2000s, let see how it fairs in the world cup in India and the CT in 2025. Their should be no excuses for the dire performances like we saw in the last world cup.

We've seen plenty of so called golden generation teams in sport win nothing yet be ranked number 1.

You might want to check back on this.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Mickey Arthur in his post game presser after defeat to South Africa:

[Reporter:]

You had your number one ranked side not too long ago and you had played a lot of matches against New Zealand at home. Did all of it put together sort of hide the holes in the team especially on the batting front? Was it like did it make it too complex when coming to the World Cup?

[Mickey Arthur:]

Yeah, look I think at a World Cup you've got to be playing your best game at the at the right time. Our form had sort of drifted off a little bit. And there's various [reasons]. We talk about it every day as to what it could have been. But our form kind of drifted off. And again, we haven't put the perfect games together. We've batted well, we haven't bowled well. I do think our fielding standards have been average. So, there's a lot of work that we need to put in to manage and get to the standards required to win a World Cup. But those are the things we talk about every day. Those are the things when we go to the training ground, we train every day. We want to work to world-class standards, which we do in terms of our preparation. Again, form just hasn't allowed us opportunity to put the perfect game together.

 

[hassan918]

This world cup is proving that rankings hardly county for anything when you are playing in the tournament with the best teams in the World. We see many top teams rest their key players in less important matches which is why their ranking may go down for some time but when they are playing in the big tournament, they play their best players even if they haven't played a particular format in recent past for their country. It is good to be at number 1 in rankings but it shouldn't be the only target.