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This is a really riveting recent conversation about match-fixing with the Australian writer, Jarrod Kimber, and former England player, David Lloyd. It's really worth a watch.

Kimber's main argument is that spot-fixing in cricket is still rife today. One way to tell is that forensic accountants can spot HUGE bets (in the hundreds of millions of dollars) with large concentrations of money placed on very specific outcomes. If the players being bet on are playing suspiciously, it is quite telling. According to Kimber, many commentators talk openly about such corrupt players off-air, and it is also in the interest of the ICC not to go after these players because it will turn people off the game.

What do you think? Have you noticed any anomalies yourself? Personally, I have a feeling that spot-fixing runs rampent in francise leagues especially in the PSL / IPL and BPL and would like to see more journalists shed light on these betting anomalies.

Here are some notable quotes:

‘‘Off air the names that we have heard being linked to match fixing roll off the tongue, now we cannot say that on air. [to due legal resons].’’ Host

‘‘Match fixing still happens and there are still bits when I'm watching Cricket where I think to myself that doesn't make sense. I've seen I've seen bowlers bowl down the leg side with short fine leg up two balls in a row and then move the captain moves a fine leg back and they bring the third up and then he bowls wide outside off stump for the next ball and you think this is an incredibly accurate bowler how come he's managed to do this in the space of of a couple of balls.’’ Kimber

‘‘Bet Fair, the Exchange, they had a IPL game recently where I think 250 million was exchanged on one on one market so it would have been about 350 million pound exchanged on one game that wasn't even being played in England. So these International betters coming to Betfair to to do that, my guess is that that game would have had somewhere around 1 billion 1.2 billion traded on it internationally that game and it's never reported on. There's no one reporting on the gambling industry you watch what's happening in American Sports and you have a situation where they've just allowed legalized gambling and straight away when there's an anomaly in the gambling people write about it and they go this doesn't make sense this player is doing this and people are betting on it is this something that we need to look into we don't even cover that in cricket.’’ Kimber

‘‘When half a billion dollars is gambled on one cricket game no one even covers it, to me that that's where it starts.’’ Kimber

‘‘You can see the anomalies there are cricket games that are being played all around the world where you can see betting anomalies happening right in front of your eyes.’’ Kimber

“If you run if you run the ICC or you run the 100 right and you know a players is fixing you is it really in your best interest to flush out the story that you're play is are fixing? That's not going to help you sell tickets, it's not going to help you sell shirts, it's not going to help you get sponsors, so the people who are in charge of looking into corruption it's not in their best interest to find corruption.” Kimber

“Look at the fielding standards in the IPL at the moment people have been getting hit in the chops uh with the ball right there there was a guy on the boundary the other day was the it was like it was like you know catching a little throw from your friend and he managed to do this over his shoulder for six.”

 
The amount of money spent on cricket betting has gone up remarkably in the last couple of years and it seems to be getting higher all the time. When there is a lot of money, the chances of corruption will be always there.
 
Mostly talked about betting and then one or two statement regarding "I feel there is fixing"..... Along the lines.
 
Fixing has always been there. Those wo say there is no fixing are far far away from reality. Obviously, you won't be able to prove 99% of time but saying that there is nothing like this, is not a fair statement.
 
This is a really riveting recent conversation about match-fixing with the Australian writer, Jarrod Kimber, and former England player, David Lloyd. It's really worth a watch.

Kimber's main argument is that spot-fixing in cricket is still rife today. One way to tell is that forensic accountants can spot HUGE bets (in the hundreds of millions of dollars) with large concentrations of money placed on very specific outcomes. If the players being bet on are playing suspiciously, it is quite telling. According to Kimber, many commentators talk openly about such corrupt players off-air, and it is also in the interest of the ICC not to go after these players because it will turn people off the game.

What do you think? Have you noticed any anomalies yourself? Personally, I have a feeling that spot-fixing runs rampent in francise leagues especially in the PSL / IPL and BPL and would like to see more journalists shed light on these betting anomalies.

Here are some notable quotes:

‘‘Off air the names that we have heard being linked to match fixing roll off the tongue, now we cannot say that on air. [to due legal resons].’’ Host

‘‘Match fixing still happens and there are still bits when I'm watching Cricket where I think to myself that doesn't make sense. I've seen I've seen bowlers bowl down the leg side with short fine leg up two balls in a row and then move the captain moves a fine leg back and they bring the third up and then he bowls wide outside off stump for the next ball and you think this is an incredibly accurate bowler how come he's managed to do this in the space of of a couple of balls.’’ Kimber

‘‘Bet Fair, the Exchange, they had a IPL game recently where I think 250 million was exchanged on one on one market so it would have been about 350 million pound exchanged on one game that wasn't even being played in England. So these International betters coming to Betfair to to do that, my guess is that that game would have had somewhere around 1 billion 1.2 billion traded on it internationally that game and it's never reported on. There's no one reporting on the gambling industry you watch what's happening in American Sports and you have a situation where they've just allowed legalized gambling and straight away when there's an anomaly in the gambling people write about it and they go this doesn't make sense this player is doing this and people are betting on it is this something that we need to look into we don't even cover that in cricket.’’ Kimber

‘‘When half a billion dollars is gambled on one cricket game no one even covers it, to me that that's where it starts.’’ Kimber

‘‘You can see the anomalies there are cricket games that are being played all around the world where you can see betting anomalies happening right in front of your eyes.’’ Kimber

“If you run if you run the ICC or you run the 100 right and you know a players is fixing you is it really in your best interest to flush out the story that you're play is are fixing? That's not going to help you sell tickets, it's not going to help you sell shirts, it's not going to help you get sponsors, so the people who are in charge of looking into corruption it's not in their best interest to find corruption.” Kimber

“Look at the fielding standards in the IPL at the moment people have been getting hit in the chops uh with the ball right there there was a guy on the boundary the other day was the it was like it was like you know catching a little throw from your friend and he managed to do this over his shoulder for six.”

So basically if something doesn’t make sense to Kimber, then it gotta be fixing if some sort. This guy is so full of himself.
 
It would be very easy for Kimber to reveal the matches and show a chart of betting spikes without doing anything illegal or libellous. The fans could make up their own minds.

But he would have a target on his back, and it's probably not worth risking his life over. Cronje's death went down as unexplained but in modern times the state most heavily involved in match-fixing is now carrying out assassinations of dissidents overseas so he could be in their sights if he speaks too much.
 
Fixing has always been there. Those wo say there is no fixing are far far away from reality. Obviously, you won't be able to prove 99% of time but saying that there is nothing like this, is not a fair statement.
Accusing people without proof is also not fair. Only make accusations when you can prove it.
 
Accusing people without proof is also not fair. Only make accusations when you can prove it.
Exactly. It is very easy to use a few words and say that he did this and he did that but when it comes to real evidence, people just vanish. Fixing exists but until proven, a player will stay innocent.
 
This has been going for too long now; Amir, Salman and Asif were just easy preys although players from other big teams still do this today especially in new found 10 overs unsanctioned leagues.
They got caught for 2 reasons.

A) Mazhar was video tapped, most fixing scandals don't have bookies being followed. Mazhar was an amateur who couldn't cover his tracks and hence drew suspicion to himself, he was being followed for a while.

B) Amir confessed instantly which made it very very easy to convict all 3 immediately, had Amir denied it would have taken a bit longer due to various court hearings and typical court room drama. Although they still would have been convicted at the end.
 
The News of the world entrapment of the Pakistan trio was a revenge plot brewing for many years due to various run ins with Pakistani players.
 
Exactly. It is very easy to use a few words and say that he did this and he did that but when it comes to real evidence, people just vanish. Fixing exists but until proven, a player will stay innocent.
The facts are that billions are exchanged due to Match/ spot fixing because the bookies have inside contacts and either player intermediaries or direct contact in order to make money.

Without this the bookies cant make a penny.

The ICC know the indian underground bookies have these links and connections but choose to ignore rather than investigate it because it doesn't suit their agenda.
 
The News of the world entrapment of the Pakistan trio was a revenge plot brewing for many years due to various run ins with Pakistani players.
It’s not entrapment when you lure a greedy grubby cheat. A cheat bit on the lure, little did he know the line attached to the lure.

There is a reason the likes of Tendulkar, Dravid, Anwar, Vaas, De Silva, Ranatunga etc were never ‘entrapped’. I’d say if anyone of them had been ‘entrapped’ it would have been a much more prominent story.
 
It’s not entrapment when you lure a greedy grubby cheat. A cheat bit on the lure, little did he know the line attached to the lure.

There is a reason the likes of Tendulkar, Dravid, Anwar, Vaas, De Silva, Ranatunga etc were never ‘entrapped’. I’d say if anyone of them had been ‘entrapped’ it would have been a much more prominent story.
It is entrapment because the News of the world came with that intention which is why they sent mazhar majeed rather than paul smith.

CSK and Rajasthan were banned for 2 years in IPL
 
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Really enjoying the podcasts with Bumble and Kimber. Well moderated by Jon Norman who's unafraid to ask some piercing questions.

On YouTube and worth a watch.
 
Icc doesn't have any authority to Stop fixing in leagues cricket ? Oh i thought they have .
ICC is governing body. Not an executive body like Fifa. The final decision making power still remains with ICC member nations.

One of the reasons why ICC can do very little in CT25. It's upto PCB and BCCI to decide what they want to do. ICC cannot make decisions independently. It will make a decision if majority member vote for it.
 
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Hazrat Bilal no ball in AbuDhabi T10 League. Isn't this clear case of fixing?

The thing it's not really in the ICC's interest to clamp down hard on fixing. I'm sure if the amount of fixing was made public, interest in cricket would dwindle and people would stop following the sport.

The T10 is def a fixers league. No one attends the matches, no one watches the matches so this is the only way team owners can make $
 
It will never go away. As the "God fearing" Hansie or the Sajdah doing Butt showed there isn't any one group or player, it's just greed and as we know, greed and criminality have no boundaries
 
I stay away from anything David Lloyd is mentioned in. He’s a drunk old Pom who was last relevant as a cricket analyst couple of decades ago. Then he became a part time comedian and used that gimmick to prolong his otherwise ordinary commentary career. He always seems under influence of drugs and is mostly way off the mark whenever he’s asked to comment on anything.

JK on the other hand is a good analyst but I don’t know why he’s wasting his time with Lloyd and tarnishing his well earned reputation doing these useless podcasts.
 
Former IPL Chairman Lalit Modi Accuses N Srinivasan Of 'Fixing Umpires, Rigging Auction'

Former IPL chairman Lalit Modi accused former BCCI secretary N Srinivasan of serious allegations including umpire fixing and auction rigging on a recent podcast that has made the rounds on the internet.

Modi, the founder and commissioner of the IPL between 2008 and 2010 alleged that Srinivasan did not think the franchise league would take off, but jumped on the gravy boat when the T20 contest turned into a blockbuster.

He also went on to claim that Srinivasan would appoint Chennai-based umpires for Chennai Super Kings’ fixtures, which constitute a clash of interests, and he took issue with it.


 
Former IPL Chairman Lalit Modi Accuses N Srinivasan Of 'Fixing Umpires, Rigging Auction'

Former IPL chairman Lalit Modi accused former BCCI secretary N Srinivasan of serious allegations including umpire fixing and auction rigging on a recent podcast that has made the rounds on the internet.

Modi, the founder and commissioner of the IPL between 2008 and 2010 alleged that Srinivasan did not think the franchise league would take off, but jumped on the gravy boat when the T20 contest turned into a blockbuster.

He also went on to claim that Srinivasan would appoint Chennai-based umpires for Chennai Super Kings’ fixtures, which constitute a clash of interests, and he took issue with it.



Wouldn't be surprised if this is true. Al-Jazeera even had a documentary about this.
 
10 cricketers are suspected of fixing in the BPL. AKSU is investigating them. It is expected that several Bangladeshi cricketers will be banned in the next few days..

@sweep_shot congratulations

:kp
 
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The Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) president, Faruque Ahmed, stated on Friday that the board will take strict action against any cricketer found guilty of wrongdoing in the ongoing Bangladesh Premier League (BPL), the country's premier franchise-based T20 tournament.

It was reported that BCB's Anti-Corruption Unit, based on anonymous tips and media reports, identified eight matches in the tournament under suspicion of spot-fixing and match-fixing. It was also reported that 10 players are under the ACU scanner while they are also closely monitoring the activities of four franchises.

Out of the 10 cricketers under the ACU scanner, six have represented the Bangladesh national team, two are uncapped Bangladeshi players and two are foreign cricketers.

Among the franchises, Durbar Rajshahi and Dhaka Capitals have the most integrity flags, with each having 12, while Sylhet Strikers and Chittagong Kings have six and two respectively.

According to media reports, the eight suspected matches are: Fortune Barishal vs Rajshahi (January 6), Rangpur Riders vs Dhaka (January 7), Dhaka vs Sylhet (January 10), Rajshahi vs Dhaka (January 12), Chittagong vs Sylhet (January 13), Barishal vs Khulna Tigers (January 22), and Chittagong vs Sylhet.
 
The Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) president, Faruque Ahmed, stated on Friday that the board will take strict action against any cricketer found guilty of wrongdoing in the ongoing Bangladesh Premier League (BPL), the country's premier franchise-based T20 tournament.

It was reported that BCB's Anti-Corruption Unit, based on anonymous tips and media reports, identified eight matches in the tournament under suspicion of spot-fixing and match-fixing. It was also reported that 10 players are under the ACU scanner while they are also closely monitoring the activities of four franchises.

Out of the 10 cricketers under the ACU scanner, six have represented the Bangladesh national team, two are uncapped Bangladeshi players and two are foreign cricketers.

Among the franchises, Durbar Rajshahi and Dhaka Capitals have the most integrity flags, with each having 12, while Sylhet Strikers and Chittagong Kings have six and two respectively.

According to media reports, the eight suspected matches are: Fortune Barishal vs Rajshahi (January 6), Rangpur Riders vs Dhaka (January 7), Dhaka vs Sylhet (January 10), Rajshahi vs Dhaka (January 12), Chittagong vs Sylhet (January 13), Barishal vs Khulna Tigers (January 22), and Chittagong vs Sylhet.
What about the salary issue of players also?

Can't believe Bangladesh Board have let things so loose. Time to tighten up some things. Otherwise this will have a longterm negative effect on Bangladesh Cricket.
 
Anamul Haque Bijoy has been banned from travelling outside the country due to an ongoing investigation into BPL spot-fixing involving him and others. Immigration authorities have already been notified.
 
I hope the two overseas players involved aren't Pakistani players especially players selected in the champions trophy squad.

Indian bookies have really ruined cricket for all fans across the world by manipulating players into corruption and fixing.
 
Everyone who follows cricket in some capacity knows that fixing is rife whether spot or match in the sport and the majority are through the indian bookies during the ipl.

The ICC are on the payroll which is why they turn a blind eye when it suits and bumble and the likes know it but are afraid of whistleblowing due to the consequences they will face.
 
Betting happening in UK, allegedly fixed matches happening in Bangladesh , fixers could possibly be Pakistani.

But let's bring India and Indian bookies into this because we are bitter and have nothing else to point out.
 
I hope the two overseas players involved aren't Pakistani players especially players selected in the champions trophy squad.

Indian bookies have really ruined cricket for all fans across the world by manipulating players into corruption and fixing.
Bookie are illegal but what about player's who sold Their country for money .

I see a pattern here and we all know the reason as well .
:#VictimsCards

:kp
 
Yeah and only poor Pakistani players get manipulated into the act. :junaid
In the past most of the players involved were Indian.

It effected the early phase of the IPL too. Now there is no real incentive for an Indian to fix because if they keep to the straight and narrow they can make big money legitimately.

But it's undeniable that the epicentre of fixing is India. You guys even set up a whole fake IPL just to trick Russians to bet on rigged matches.
 
Everyone who follows cricket in some capacity knows that fixing is rife whether spot or match in the sport and the majority are through the indian bookies during the ipl.

The ICC are on the payroll which is why they turn a blind eye when it suits and bumble and the likes know it but are afraid of whistleblowing due to the consequences they will face.

I believe there are fixings going on in franchise cricket and possibly in international cricket too. Al-Jazeera did a documentary on this a while ago.
 
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Bookie are illegal but what about player's who sold Their country for money .

I see a pattern here and we all know the reason as well .
:#VictimsCards

:kp
Players are obviously wrong doers. But the ones who manipulate them are the bigger criminals and they are usually Indians.
 
Players are obviously wrong doers. But the ones who manipulate them are the bigger criminals and they are usually Indians.
India board is atleast taken very strict against against Fixer players while pakistan is welcome with both hands and includes in the team's .

Pakistan/ pakistani fan's are last one to talk about theses fixing scandles .

In the 90s and early 2000s most of the pakistan players were fixer but get away with it.

Justice Qayyum reports to padi hogi hi .

:kp
 
India board is atleast taken very strict against against Fixer players while pakistan is welcome with both hands and includes in the team's .

Pakistan/ pakistani fan's are last one to talk about theses fixing scandles .

In the 90s and early 2000s most of the pakistan players were fixer but get away with it.

Justice Qayyum reports to padi hogi hi .

:kp
No doubt there is truth in what you are saying. Pakistans leniency came back to hurt them.
 
Players are obviously wrong doers. But the ones who manipulate them are the bigger criminals and they are usually Indians.

Question is why is ICC not cracking down hard on this?
 
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Yes. I believe source of this issue is India. Most of these bookies are based in India I believe.

Question is why is ICC not cracking down hard on this?
I think many top level Indians are involved too. Sreesanths father was gonna expose it but then he got silenced and retracted his statement.
 
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In the past most of the players involved were Indian.

It effected the early phase of the IPL too. Now there is no real incentive for an Indian to fix because if they keep to the straight and narrow they can make big money legitimately.

But it's undeniable that the epicentre of fixing is India. You guys even set up a whole fake IPL just to trick Russians to bet on rigged matches.

Well the epicentre of cricket is in India - the good and the bad.
 
Hypocrisy of some posters is that allegedly 10 bangladesh Players are including in spot-fixing but let's talk about india.

They always do it to hide the reality.

:kp
 
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An international betting monitoring agency has identified 22% of BPL (Bangladesh Premier League) matches allegedly as fixed or rigged, and this information has already been communicated to the relevant authorities in Bangladesh. The agency has informed the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) that 8 recently held matches were manipulated for betting purposes.
 
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India board is atleast taken very strict against against Fixer players while pakistan is welcome with both hands and includes in the team's .

Pakistan/ pakistani fan's are last one to talk about theses fixing scandles .

In the 90s and early 2000s most of the pakistan players were fixer but get away with it.

Justice Qayyum reports to padi hogi hi .

:kp
Cut the ** if ten and guly got caught with their pants down the indian board would of saved them.

Like dhoni and raina were saved.

unknown players are easy scapegoats for any country.
 
I believe there are fixings going on in franchise cricket and possibly in international cricket too. Al-Jazeera did a documentary on this a while ago.
No question that its taking place.

But just like every crime its always easy to go after the easier targets.
 
dhoni , raina & others.


The report, filed before a bench headed by justices A.K. Patnaik, also referred to the transcripts of the tapped conversation between two alleged bookies, Chandresh Jain and Ashwani Aggarwal, in which there are “references to high level fixing of players where the names of two international Indian players were mentioned.”

The report also said that Delhi Police has disclosed that according to suspended Indian player S. Sreesanth, who was arrested in connection with the case, three prominent Indian players were involved with the bookies.It also said that according to Mumbai and Delhi Police, recorded conversations “indicate connection of some Indian and foreign players with betting activities”.

The committee, also comprising Additional Solicitor General N. Nagehswar Rao and Assam Cricket Association member Nilay Dutta, said that in an undercover probe carried out by a sports magazine, a “prominent Indian capped player was recorded interacting with the bookies”.

The report also said former BCCI President I.S. Bindra has also made similar allegations and stated that he had always kept the Anti-Corruption and Security Unit (ACSU) of the ICC in the loop.

“He stated that he knew another former prominent Indian player was involved in match-fixing and was aware of his alleged involvement with bookies along with a former reputed Indian player,” it said, adding former BCCI President Shashank Manohar has also stated that all matches in IPL need to be investigated. :kp :shh :kp
 
Some of the stuff happening in the BPL is seriously dodgy.

There's no other explanation other than fixing and it should be addressed.
 
don't really know what to say, lol, its rife, and the irony is the players who are most actively involved from what i have been told dont even have one mention in this tread, lol.
 
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