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Unfair to make an honest judgement at this stage. Wrong situation to come in and make your debut tbh. Kinda feel for him.
 
Trying to nudge everything square on the leg side even from outside off stump. Not playing straight or towards the off side at all.
 
I know its unfair on commentating after one performance but the fact is there is NO batting talent in Pakistan what so ever.
 
He looks good even DK said he looks solid , waise bhi player banai bhi jaate hain but that’s not capacity of Misbah, Has he made any single player in his 8-10 year of his tenure not a single one , neither Waqar made any bowler . Both are proven useless .
 
Faiz1978 said:
He looks good even DK said he looks solid , waise bhi player banai bhi jaate hain but that’s not capacity of Misbah, Has he made any single player in his 8-10 year of his tenure not a single one , neither Waqar made any bowler . Both are proven useless .
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Spot on. Minor technical adjustments with coach's help can do wonders but misbsh is not capable
 
Proven not capable enough , just see his body language, never looks positive , never look like leader who can make his team No 1 ( those played good level of cricket can understand him ) , he is a person try to safe himself ,his menatality is just make money 3 years don’t care about team or any youngsters , In Zimbabwe series his teams selection sums up about his personality , just to save him self he played series with complete team instead giving chance to youngsters ,
 
Simple question Faheem Ashraf scored good enough runs in Test matches in New Zealand and against South Africa , in test matches he does bat at No 6 or 7 and proven batsman with good technique & temperament whereas in ODI he bats at No 8 ,and comes to bat after Shadab Khan , Is this justified ?? sure soon he will be out of team Misbah would say he is not good enough , so point I am making player banae jaate hain , which Misbah doesn’t have capability. he is is not good enough .
 
Please not another one of those who will just bottle it and not take his opportunities

and then cry for the rest of their lives about injustice and politics!
 
Don't know what game you lot watched, but he looked a solid prospect despite playing just 13 deliveries. A bit unlucky with the one that got him out, looked a bit high to me.

Has solid technique, looks like he has time when playing shots, and times the ball well. Looking forward to seeing more of him, particularly in the whites.
 
OmarKhan99 said:
Don't know what game you lot watched, but he looked a solid prospect despite playing just 13 deliveries. A bit unlucky with the one that got him out, looked a bit high to me.

Has solid technique, looks like he has time when playing shots, and times the ball well. Looking forward to seeing more of him, particularly in the whites.
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Yes

He had no game plan. What was his game plan?
 
Rana said:
Yes

He had no game plan. What was his game plan?
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Bide time and get a feel of the wicket, while putting away anything that is loose? You won't see much game plan in a 13-ball stint.
 
OmarKhan99 said:
Bide time and get a feel of the wicket, while putting away anything that is loose? You won't see much game plan in a 13-ball stint.
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Right, he looked nervous which is fair (he is on debut). But in a situation like this and the reputation he is coming with, plus batting in a serious position such as no.5 (Harris Sohai's position), he really needed to show a bit more intent. The wicket ball was bound to happen considering how he was in a shell.
 
Rana said:
Right, he looked nervous which is fair (he is on debut). But in a situation like this and the reputation he is coming with, plus batting in a serious position such as no.5 (Harris Sohai's position), he really needed to show a bit more intent. The wicket ball was bound to happen considering how he was in a shell.
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If the ball is doing a bit (as it always does in UK in this season), most batsmen would try to minimize risks and back their defensive technique.

I don't think we need to every player of ours to start counter-attacking almost immediately following a collapse, because that comes across as a bit reckless (like for instance Hasan's slog). Have to put a price on your wicket.
 
First match and that is in UK , played just 13 balls , knives are out , Have patience give him 3-4 matches to ***** his potential.
 
Any pace and movement and he is awkward

That's the issue with karachi players bar sharjeel they prefer low bounce slow wickets and a tendency to angle the bat towards leg .

Intl cricket is not where you learn your trade

And in modern odi t20 cricket there is no place for 80 90s era accumulator nudgers
 
mazkhan said:
Any pace and movement and he is awkward

That's the issue with karachi players bar sharjeel they prefer low bounce slow wickets and a tendency to angle the bat towards leg .

Intl cricket is not where you learn your trade

And in modern odi t20 cricket there is no place for 80 90s era accumulator nudgers
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Sharjeel is not from Karachi. And this is a good thing as the last good batsman to come out from Karachi was Saeed Anwar and that was like 30 years ago. Karachi does not produced good batsman anymore, actually they dont produced even good cricketers anymore
 
Calling him rubbish or over hyped already is not fair. Give him a fair chance, he came in a nightmare situation for a debutant. He has a good domestic record, he deserves some backing.
 
srh said:
Sharjeel is not from Karachi. And this is a good thing as the last good batsman to come out from Karachi was Saeed Anwar and that was like 30 years ago. Karachi does not produced good batsman anymore, actually they dont produced even good cricketers anymore
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On the last bit, Sarfraz was a pretty good cricketer. Let's not be harsh.
 
SKY made his debut and was hitting England main bowlers all around the park. Same about Ishan Kishan but here you see Pakistan players making a debut, each one is worse than the other.
 
From my end, I'll reserve judgement of Saud after this series.
 
SangasCoverDrive said:
SKY made his debut and was hitting England main bowlers all around the park. Same about Ishan Kishan but here you see Pakistan players making a debut, each one is worse than the other.
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Different sort of players/roles. What are their respective FC stats? Therein lies a clue.
 
Looked very nervous and a tough situation when he came into bat.

Give him a few matches and then let's see what he is made of.
 
Faiz1978 said:
He looks good even DK said he looks solid , waise bhi player banai bhi jaate hain but that’s not capacity of Misbah, Has he made any single player in his 8-10 year of his tenure not a single one , neither Waqar made any bowler . Both are proven useless .
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Been saying this for years,, these two Misbah and Waqar was with the team in different capacity and powerful roles as either coach or captain since 2010. MISBAH went one step ahead to become selector cum coach..

They have proved again and again that they cannot build a team, lead a team.. But PCB goes to these two again and again...
 
OmarKhan99 said:
Don't know what game you lot watched, but he looked a solid prospect despite playing just 13 deliveries. A bit unlucky with the one that got him out, looked a bit high to me.

Has solid technique, looks like he has time when playing shots, and times the ball well. Looking forward to seeing more of him, particularly in the whites.
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Agree with you, Pakistani fan expect miracles from debutant.
 
if pak continue to have coaches like Misbah and Waqar, then players like hafeez and malik would never wanna retire because they knew very well that these guys could build only a mediocre bunch every time they get an opportunity and they can always line up ready for their chances and wait like a vulture...
 
Tough for Saud but a lesson for him too.

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Now that he has been picked he needs at least 8 games to sink or swim. Recent history of our batsman shows that he will most likely fail but we must keep trying these players, we only need a couple to come off and we will have a decent team.
 
Should be given decent run. Has impressive stats in both FC and List A cricket and has come through different levels including Pak A and emerging teams. Not many such options available for Pak with similar experience and calibre.
 
mazkhan said:
Any pace and movement and he is awkward

That's the issue with karachi players bar sharjeel they prefer low bounce slow wickets and a tendency to angle the bat towards leg .

Intl cricket is not where you learn your trade

And in modern odi t20 cricket there is no place for 80 90s era accumulator nudgers
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What about Saeed Anwar, Miandad and Zaheer Abbas
 
Short left hand batsmen dont excite me unless someone is as flashy as Saeed Anwar.
 
Yousaf regards the kid very highly and has worked on him. He should definately be given a few more games to show his worth
 
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Savak said:
Yousaf regards the kid very highly and has worked on him. He should definately be given a few more games to show his worth
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If it was up to Yousuf, Asad Shafiq would be made Pakistan captain in all 3 formats of the game.
 
Has played 46 First Class matches and averages 50. Needs a proper chance for sure.
 
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Because of Yousuf Fahim Ashraf has done so well in test matches , some others also given credit too him , he understands batting technicalities just check his record in England in test matches but I feel Pakistanis deserves Misbah 😀😀,
 
Ahmed216 said:
Look at where the ball hits him and his head position. No way he could have made contact
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Head falling outside the line of the ball, bat coming down at an angle, and that's one of our leading FC batsmen.

Awful dismissal. Still, need to give him a proper run etc.
 
I feel he is being judged for the wrong format of the game.
 
[VIDEO] Saud Shakeel - The Bowler

He looks like a really good bowler. Has a really good control, like Jadeja.

Can he bowl 6-7 overs in a ODI. It can really help the balance of the team
 
Basically done what Shadab is supposed to do by slowing run rate and taking wicket of Salt.
 
Looks better than Shadab. If he can prove himself with the bat, then he can be a really good 6th bowling option
 
Good bowling to take a wicket at a crucial period

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MenInG said:
Basically done what Shadab is supposed to do by slowing run rate and taking wicket of Salt.
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To be fair, it was Shadab who implored for Saud to be brought on instead of Rauf against Salt and Vince. Smart of him to notice that "dono ka record bohut kharaab hai" against SLA.
 
Not the worst part time bowler you'll see.

More than useful for a few overs.
 
Glad to see he wasn't taken out of the lineup after the 1st match. Hopefully he can make it count today.
 
Real examination of his temperament today but if he can do this today, he will have moved to a different level altogether

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Hoping for a special knock. He has the temperament for it I reckon.

Even if he fails, the solid manner in which he has played the ball so far will hold him in good stead for Tests.
 
His cover drives remind you of M Yousuf.

This guy looks to have it in him to succeed in Tests/ODI's.

With more confidence he will play more shots.
 
Yeah, he'll definitely be an excellent Test batsman.

Probably not suited for the white ball format, unless he shows something later on today or next game.
 
Seems a little lost whilst batting - not sure what he is doing today
 
Have backed him since his U-19 days.

He's a much MUCH superior product than Imam ul Haq.
Always was!

But sadly, the Inzamam connection was just too powerful and Imam wS not only selected much earlier, but is still backed despite his continuous failures.

Good Test and somewhat ODI prospect.
 
Decent innings for a guy on debut (2nd match), that too in England. Also, a decent 6th bowler and a decent fielder too.

I think he should play at #4 in ODIs, doesn't have the game for #5.
 
Congratulations to Saud for reaching his maiden fifty - out for 56(77)

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Good half century with clean strokes, but there didn't seem to be any intent in chasing the score down - him and Shaheen should have taken it closer than they did.
 
It is impossible for Pakistan to find a batsman who can bat fluently, hit big shots and also have good temperament. Basically the all-round package.

The top sides have several such players even in their reserves.

This clearly shows the lack of talent in Pakistan. We are in the midst of a talent crisis and have been for decades.
 
looks like a competent batsmen, but he does not seem to have an extra gear to up the run rate when required. he middled the slog he got out on and couldn't clear a fairly short lords boundary.

should definitely be in the test squad, and ideally be given a chance to replace azhar ali.
 
Hawkeye said:
Have backed him since his U-19 days.

He's a much MUCH superior product than Imam ul Haq.
Always was!

But sadly, the Inzamam connection was just too powerful and Imam wS not only selected much earlier, but is still backed despite his continuous failures.

Good Test and somewhat ODI prospect.
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Then why didn't Misbah pick him when he took the multifunctional role post WC?
 
Very compact player like Bavuma. Will do well in Tests more than ODI’s.
 
As I feared. Still has no power game. Has beem at this level for years. Will score these intent-less fifties and then get out on next ball like Babar.
 
Varun said:
Good half century with clean strokes, but there didn't seem to be any intent in chasing the score down - him and Shaheen should have taken it closer than they did.
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Saud doesn't look like a slogger. He's only hit 10-odd sixes in his entire List A career. I think he did do the reasonable thing and maneuver the ball around for singles until the leg spinner eventually came on and then chanced his arm.

He's always been a #3 player. Playing him at 5 was a travesty. Rizwan and him should swap positions.
 
I don't see a long term success for Saud in ODI Cricket quite simply because he lacks power for the modern game. His game against spin was from 25 years ago. On the positive Lots to like about him today and he looks a player that may be more suited to tests in the long term. In the short time he has to play ODI cricket but not long term.
 
Bewal Express said:
I don't see a long term success for Saud in ODI Cricket quite simply because he lacks power for the modern game. His game against spin was from 25 years ago. On the positive Lots to like about him today and he looks a player that may be more suited to tests in the long term. In the short time he has to play ODI cricket but not long term.
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Maqsood, Umar Akmal have power games but whats the point if you don't have a brain.

I would rather Saud play and get a few good scores under his belt. He might start opening up with confidence. Even Babar Azam didn't set the world alight immediately with the bat in his first few innings and series in 2015, it was only when Mickey Arthur kept drilling in his head that you are the man that he finally started becoming consistent. Is there anyone in the team dressing room who can inspire players to be greater than themselves?
 
Maqsood could have scored a hundred in the first game, he could have scored a hundred today. Saud could have done it on his debut or he could have done it today.

Our players fail to seize these moments, moments that produce big players.

The first time I saw Dhoni was when he was promoted to number 3 against Pakistan in 2005 and completely failing in his first few outings.

Another failure could have ended his career, and he responded with a 150.

The first time I saw Kohli was against Sri Lanka in 2009 when India were chasing 300+ and had lost both Tendulkar and Sehwag cheaply.

I thought Kohli looked good after the first few balls, and then he scored a match-winning hundred along with Gambhir.

These things just don’t happen for our players. They lack the ability and the courage.
 
Mamoon said:
Maqsood could have scored a hundred in the first game, he could have scored a hundred today. Saud could have done it on his debut or he could have done it today.

Our players fail to seize these moments, moments that produce big players.

The first time I saw Dhoni was when he was promoted to number 3 against Pakistan in 2005 and completely failing in his first few outings.

Another failure could have ended his career, and he responded with a 150.

The first time I saw Kohli was against Sri Lanka in 2009 when India were chasing 300+ and had lost both Tendulkar and Sehwag cheaply.

I thought Kohli looked good after the first few balls, and then he scored a match-winning hundred along with Gambhir.

These things just don’t happen for our players. They lack the ability and the courage.
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You are comparing Apples with Oranges. India has always had a superior batting history and culture vis a vis Pakistan. Lot of competition for fast aggressive technically sound and sound match awareness batsmen, if you fail to seize the moment in that team, someone else will. Sadly in the Pakistani batting system, you can only name 10 players at best who are perhaps not good enough to get into the Big 5 teams or even their reserves but sadly are the best available in the country and therefore you have no choice but to pick them.
 
Decent knock today but doesnt have hitting capabilities which is rather disappointing in this day and age.

He would succeed in tests for sure.
 
Looks decent batsman. however sorry for the generalization but knowing fans who have a liking for flashiness, he is going to take a lot of criticism in the coming days.

He seems a Misbah type of player minus the power hitting ability who will keep scoring runs in any condition, look ok at times and stroke less other times but won’t have impact on the game. Having said that apart from Hassan Ali, the only other guy who looked good today from a Pakistan perspective.
 
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