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MenInG said:
Having said that, a better strike rate could have put Pakistan in a winning position
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He will up the anty when he knows Pakistan really can win this, probably in the last session. One wicket here and momentum shifts back to Kiwis.
 
I think he’s earned himself Gray Nichols sponsorship in this Test
 
There's no way we will get 140 runs in final session that would mean switching into odi mode.

Saud better hope sarfraz doesn't get out because if he does new Zealand will go for the kill and agha is only one there the rest can fall within an over since the tail is hopeless.
 
mazkhan said:
There's no way we will get 140 runs in final session that would mean switching into odi mode.

Saud better hope sarfraz doesn't get out because if he does new Zealand will go for the kill and agha is only one there the rest can fall within an over since the tail is hopeless.
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There is also the second new ball to contend with
 
Saud being criticized by comms for no intent - not even backing up at non-strikers - even Sarf not pleased it seems
 
I like his technique and composure but like everyone else I would like to see a change in intent from him. There have been times in the last few weeks that he could have put his foot down a bit more but went out of his way to be defensive.
 
If this guy had batted his 146 balls at even a 50/60 SR, we'd have 40-50 more runs and be on the cusp of an actual Test victory. He was batting for a draw from ball 1.
 
Azhar Ali in sachet packet.

Same negative approach no matter the situation still remember his horrible ODI batting when he scored some 50+ runs.
 
He does himself injustice technically he's better than azhar ali he's more like shafiq and can play shots and offside cover drives don't understand why he continous to plod along at one monotous pace
 
Pathetic 2nd inns, just blocking for sake of it and probably costs us winning this test.
 
MenInG said:
Having said that, a better strike rate could have put Pakistan in a winning position
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You can't look at it like that. You do know how many times we have lost the last 3-5 wickets for not very many at all in each of the last 5 tests.
We were on course which is what matters and the risk of losing was decreasing.
Shame he couldn't go on
 
His pathetic innings in the first innings meant we didn’t get any lead. His pathetic innings in the second innings meant that we didn’t win the match.

From the very beginning, he was playing for himself. No intent whatsoever to be positive and go for the win. He is another selfish player who plays for his average.
 
Congrats to the nightwatchman. 32 runs from 146 balls. Managed to successfully draw the match.
 
The_KING said:
His pathetic innings in the first innings meant we didn’t get any lead. His pathetic innings in the second innings meant that we didn’t win the match.

From the very beginning, he was playing for himself. No intent whatsoever to be positive and go for the win. He is another selfish player who plays for his average.
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Both innings lacked intent for sure and Saud must work on this. However the top order flop show put us under huge pressure.

The supposed ATG Pakistani batsman and best all-format batsman choked once again in 2nd innings is especially culpable. And as captain he should've shown some leadership and asked Saud to hurry up - but his mindset too is cowardly and defensive.
 
I don’t understand the hate saud gets . It was his slow crawl which took the time away from game , else Pakistan would have had more overs to bat. When you are chasing 320 on an asian track on 5th day, you don’t fancy a chase when you are 80-5. It’s still better to draw a test than to bat Like a clown and lose the match. It would have been a different affair if fake king and parchi masood had played better.
 
gazza619 said:
Out comes the Shahid Afridi school of thought strike rate experts. There are plenty of them around it seems.
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Yeah because saying someone should bat higher than 20 or 30 strike rate makes u an Afridi fan. What logic from our fans if u say players should bat a bit quicker it means u support blind slogging.

In modern Tests a 50 strike rate is reasonable I'd say. Batting at 20 or 30 strike rate isn't a platform for long term success because it means u need to bat 250 300 balls every innings to make a substantial score n puts all the pressure on your partner to make the scoreboard tick. Saud can bat at 3 that's his domestic position n his style is suited for a no 3 or opener where u can bat slow.

At 5 , 6 or 7 u need bats who can bat at least 50 or 60 Sr and who can counter punch vs the old ball like what Sarfaraz n Agha have done.

So Saud played well a good series but he's more suited to 3 than 5.

Just coz it's Tests doesn't mean u can bat at any SR u need a healthy SR .
 
Asad Shafiq in the making!!! I am not sure if it was the instructions or he just plays way too many dot balls
 
Overall Saud came in a tough position n helped stabilise our innings . So a good stabilising knock but couldn't accelerate when required maybe cos he's not dynamic.

But we need to get rid of Shan the parchi English Medium tutor and get Saud at 3 and KG at 5.
 
I want him to do well, but his poor strike rate in both innings cost Pakistan the match. We were 15 runs away. If he had scored another 15 runs out of the 100s and 100s of dots he faced, we would have won
 
TheSultan said:
This is the difference between him and Azhar Ali. While Saud batted slow, he didn’t really give off the look of someone flustered or worried. Azhar always gave the impression he was batting on a minefield with a lot of trepidation - this also sent jitters to the dressing room
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Dare I say, his composure at the crease reminds me of batsmen from across the border. It looks like he has been doing it all his life.

Azhar Ali to his credit made a great career out of nothing but I agree, he constantly looked like he was about to get out. If he didn't work so hard on his batting, he would've been a nobody leg-spinning all-rounder.
 
I think his second Innings was overall poor he should have picked singles and showed more intend however if he got out earlier in his Innings they would have proberly lost the test match.
 
If you can not bat at more than 25 SR without loosing your wicket, you do not deserve to have a spot in the team.
 
He is still new , cut him some slack. He showed that he can bat with good sr against england. His role needs to be defined. He has shots but he cant be asked to anchor the innings so early in his career. Allow him to express himself.
 
One thing I fail to understand with our players - you want to put a price on your wicket fine, you avoid further wickets for a while, fine. Why does it have to be block block, dot, dot, tuk, tuk? Why can’t you just rotate the strike. Sure, avoid some big and risky shots - fine. But you can play risk free rotation of strike you know
 
James said:
I am pleased for Saud Shakeel that he scored his maiden Test century, but I have been left a bit cold by the innings in the context of the game.

For me a strike rate of under 40 in Test cricket is always a bit of a red flag — it’s an extremely conservative use of time and deliveries — to justify playing so slowly there has to be a payoff in the end, otherwise such an innings tends to get absorbed into the game as opposed to strongly affecting its outcome; and in this case the payoff would have been partnerships with lower order batters beyond Agha Salman.

Unfortunately, Pakistan went from 5/385 to 408 all out, with Saud left unbeaten at the other end having used up the best part of 350 deliveries and not particularly shown any propensity for playing a lead role with the lower order, managing the strike, or accelerating as needed.

So I’m left a bit puzzled by this innings and not really sure what to think about it, or how highly to rate it. (if at all.)
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The kid scores too slowly. Too many blocks.

Needs to up the tempo.

Doesn’t need to be 4s and 6s necessarily.

Just rotate the strike with 1s and 2s.
 
TheSultan said:
I want him to do well, but his poor strike rate in both innings cost Pakistan the match. We were 15 runs away. If he had scored another 15 runs out of the 100s and 100s of dots he faced, we would have won
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Yes. It’s a slightly harsh conclusion for such an inexperienced player, but I do essentially agree.

He is currently a batsman with a “draw first” mindset. He doesn’t know how to win Test matches.

Needs more coaching and mentoring.
 
I can accept scoring slowly in the 1st innings because he is new and needed to score a 100, and I can accept slow scoring at the start of his 2nd innings but why can't he rotate the strike. Weird and worrying
 
What's interesting is that he was a beautiful player to watch, definitely flaky but good to watch. He is going full 360, and needs to find a middle ground.
 
James said:
Yes. It’s a slightly harsh conclusion for such an inexperienced player, but I do essentially agree.

He is currently a batsman with a “draw first” mindset. He doesn’t know how to win Test matches.

Needs more coaching and mentoring.
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He saved the test for pakistan in the last match and God only knows what instructions he had from the captain this time around. But I agree he could have easily maintained 40 SR on this pitch without taking any risk.
 
Bewal Express said:
What's interesting is that he was a beautiful player to watch, definitely flaky but good to watch. He is going full 360, and needs to find a middle ground.
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I think he will get better with time , he probably just wanted to save the game like he did in the last match.
 
JibranAnsari said:
I think he will get better with time , he probably just wanted to save the game like he did in the last match.
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Maybe,but at that level rotating the strike shouldn't be difficult and without taking risks. My instinct about him tells me an average of 34, hopefully I am wrong by 10 and he scores and win games
 
Was he playing for the draw? What kind of mentality is this? Was he under instruction?

So so negative and poor He surely couldve knocked it around a bit more and pakistan wouldve won this
 
Bewal Express said:
Maybe,but at that level rotating the strike shouldn't be difficult and without taking risks. My instinct about him tells me an average of 34, hopefully I am wrong by 10 and he scores and win games
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34 average doesnt have any place as a test specialist batsman. If you cant average 40 plus then you shouldnt be in the side.

He puts value to his wicket , i think he wasnt even trying to rotate strike. I have hope that things will get better under a better coach.
 
One thing I will say is that his go slow in this test seemed very very deliberate - almost as if he was under instruction. He generally isn’t a quick player but it seemed very extreme in this match.
 
Bewal Express said:
Maybe,but at that level rotating the strike shouldn't be difficult and without taking risks. My instinct about him tells me an average of 34, hopefully I am wrong by 10 and he scores and win games
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I know you’re not particularly receptive to the impact of coaches at international level. However, for a team like Pakistan, it’s useful to have a strong minded personality in the dressing room like Mickey, who may just go on to push these meek characters out of their shells. Saud, Babar, Abdullah are all naturally lambs rather than lions. They need a shouty motivator like Mickey rather than a patient father figure like Saqi to see a different side to their game. Just my two cents.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
I know you’re not particularly receptive to the impact of coaches at international level. However, for a team like Pakistan, it’s useful to have a strong minded personality in the dressing room like Mickey, who may just go on to push these meek characters out of their shells. Saud, Babar, Abdullah are all naturally lambs rather than lions. They need a shouty motivator like Mickey rather than a patient father figure like Saqi to see a different side to their game. Just my two cents.
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I am against coaches because I know what coaching at the higher level means. It should be Babars job to challenge him, its his team. Can you imagine Nasser or Stokes putting up with such rubbish
 
JibranAnsari said:
34 average doesnt have any place as a test specialist batsman. If you cant average 40 plus then you shouldnt be in the side.

He puts value to his wicket , i think he wasnt even trying to rotate strike. I have hope that things will get better under a better coach.
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We need a guy to set the tone for a cricketers, and its not the coach. It's Babars team and he should do it.
 
Bewal Express said:
We need a guy to set the tone for a cricketers, and its not the coach. It's Babars team and he should do it.
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Babar is a batsman and it has become quite obvious that all he is good at is bat , he is not a tactician and not a as shrewd as misbah to set a tone. His declaration against NZ and him thinking that he wanted to win after that showed how out of depth he is as a captain. We saw shan and imam who i believe have their own mind which they follow and we saw that they were not actually following any tone set by babar. They found themselves in trouble outside their off because of rough and tried to get out of this trouble by hitting. They didnt believe they had a good defence to cope with the rough. Its saud shakils career and he will need to boss his career himself ,obviously a good coach can point out his shortcomings and he can then work on them.
 
Did anyone see his toxic tweet against QG?

Really don’t understand this guy. He was lucky to even be selected for a T20 side. Players like him, Masood and Kamran Ghulam have no business playing T20 cricket in the first place
 
Rana said:
Did anyone see his toxic tweet against QG?

Really don’t understand this guy. He was lucky to even be selected for a T20 side. Players like him, Masood and Kamran Ghulam have no business playing T20 cricket in the first place
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To be fair, he is more worthy of a game than Bangalzai :))
 
as-95 said:
To be fair, he is more worthy of a game than Bangalzai :))
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But he isn’t an emerging player hence Bangalzai is lucky to be in that category

He probably picked up a decent $15k for doing nothing which is a lot of money in Pakistan

If he wants to be valuable, reinvent yourself in the domestic circuit. Improve your strike rate to 150 and improve your power hitting game.

Really disappointed in him
 
If you are keeping him ,give him a chance at least in the dead rubber.

0 chances in 33 matches ,he is right to fell disgruntled.
 
Rana said:
Did anyone see his toxic tweet against QG?

Really don’t understand this guy. He was lucky to even be selected for a T20 side. Players like him, Masood and Kamran Ghulam have no business playing T20 cricket in the first place
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He expressed his disappointment at not getting any game time. That’s not a toxic tweet.
 
Officer Barbrady said:
He expressed his disappointment at not getting any game time. That’s not a toxic tweet.
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It’s against the team he supported so it’s toxic. On a separate note he’s far better t20 batsmen the specialist captain Sarfraz but can’t get in because you have to have a specialist captain.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not the best of results for <a href="https://twitter.com/TeamQuetta?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TeamQuetta</a> this year. Thanks for the opportunity to share the dressing room. 33/0</p>— Saud Shakeel (@saudshak) <a href="https://twitter.com/saudshak/status/1634830726704295937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Saj said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not the best of results for <a href="https://twitter.com/TeamQuetta?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TeamQuetta</a> this year. Thanks for the opportunity to share the dressing room. 33/0</p>— Saud Shakeel (@saudshak) <a href="https://twitter.com/saudshak/status/1634830726704295937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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T20 average of 20 with a 127 sr. All of his cricket on these Pakistani roads

What is he hoping for?
 
Saj said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not the best of results for <a href="https://twitter.com/TeamQuetta?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TeamQuetta</a> this year. Thanks for the opportunity to share the dressing room. 33/0</p>— Saud Shakeel (@saudshak) <a href="https://twitter.com/saudshak/status/1634830726704295937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Played a few decent knocks during national t20 but Quetta filled its lineup with foreign batsmen which didn’t leave enough room for him. Although I believe if he given a chance he would have done better than kaptaan and Chacha who are both very old now. A test class batsman with good basics can adapt decently to other formats.

Not sure if this was the right way to express his disappointment though
 
Although he is an inferior player, Sauds double century vs Sri Lanka was probably more impactful than most of Sachin Tendulkars career knocks in test cricket as Sachin was more focused on records than actually winning cricket games!
 
Seems like Saud Shakeel has changed his league in just a matter of 2 weeks. Good for him.
 
He's done his job so far, and started to convert 50s into big 100s. The Australia tour will be an eye opener for him technically and we will have to see how good he really is or what flaws he needs to work on
 
Full transcript of Saud Shakeel's press conference today after his man of the match performance today against Netherlands:

[Reporter:]

You bowl well, but batting is still a bit of a concern. Your opener is not clicking. And lower middle order also not playing well.

[Saud Shakeel:]

I think it's not like that. The wicket was not easy to bat on earlier in the match. So that's why we lost some early wickets. It's all about team effort. I think when the upper-order batsmen don’t get runs, it becomes our duty to score runs. That's how things happen.

[Reporter:]

[in Hindi]

Can you tell us when you got to know that you would play today’s match and how important is today’s match for your ODI career?

[Saud Shakeel:]

[in Urdu]

I knew some time back that I would play this match. I played a warm-up match and I had good batting there. I knew I would play this match. This game was very important. It is the start of my career. I did well in my Test matches. I had a lot of hope that I would perform like this in One-Day cricket, I am very happy with my performance.

[Reporter:]

[in Hindi]

This is the first win of the World Cup, so it's a big win for you because it will boost your morale to a great extent. But your problem is in the opening. We saw in the warm-up matches and in today's competition, that at one stage your three players were out. Later, yours and Rizwan's partnership, I think was the turning point, you two added120 runs. Isn't this a big concern for you that you are not able to click in the opening?

[Saud Shakeel:]

[in Urdu]

I don't think it is a big concern. The tournament has just started and we are playing in Hyderabad. Everyone knows that the ball stops early on here on this pitch. There are chances of losing wicket. I don't think it is a concern. We have batted first in all the matches, so we got a chance to bat in the daytime. If it was at night then it would have been a different scenario. I don't think there is much concern.

[Reporter:]

[In Hindi]

When you and Rizwan came together at 38 for 3, can you tell us about that partnership? Because it seems that Rizwan was a bit aggressive and you were nervous. So, what were you talking about? Did you set any goals for that partnership?

[Saud Shakeel:]

[in Urdu]

Of course, there were nerves. But I was lucky that I found a few odd boundaries. Sometimes it happens that you find such boundaries, it makes it easier for you. I was clear in my mind that I wanted to attack and play positive cricket. Rizwan Bhai's role was to go long but my plan was simple. I had focused on a few bowlers of the Netherlands. If I had to hit from above, I would take a chance. I did that. I took a chance. I was trying to stay positive and kept attacking the bowlers I had targeted.

[Reporter:]

You have seen a lot of success in Test cricket in your short career. Coming into the limited overs format, did you feel you have to prove a point? And when you came in, till August you were probably not in the mix, but you came in before the Afghanistan series and Asia Cup and then you are here. So just talk us through this One-Day journey. You have learnt a lot, but you didn’t get much time. Tell us how you had to adjust to this role?

[Saud Shakeel:]

[in Urdu]

See when you play Test cricket, I think it is the most difficult format, you know that. So, when you perform well there, you gain a lot of confidence. I think I performed very well in the Test matches, so my confidence level was very high.

But at the same time, I was focusing a lot on my white-ball cricket. I was focusing a lot on my game. I could see that my numbers for playing for Pakistan were 5-6 (batting order). Babar Azam plays at 3 and Rizwan plays at 4. I tried to develop my game and worked hard for it. A person has a vision and works hard for it. I tried the same. I could see that I am not playing much One-Day cricket, not much white-ball domestic cricket in Pakistan in which I can prove my point. But at the same time, when I played Test match cricket for Sri Lanka, I showed that I am ready for white-ball cricket.

[Reporter:]

If we talk about the two rounds, what was the pitch like in the first round when you were batting and bowling, the spinners were getting a lot of purchase from the track.

[Saud Shakeel:]

[in Urdu]

We have come to India for the first time. We don't have much of an idea of playing in India. But we have seen a little bit of IPL. We have seen a lot of matches in Hyderabad. So, I think that the spinners get a little help early on here. And that happened in the warm-up match as well. If you see, the early on 20-20 overs are very crucial. If you lose a wicket, like we lost in both the matches, you go on back foot. But both the times, I went there and attacked and I was successful. I think it's only Hyderabad or Chennai where it's a little difficult to score. I think other places have better wickets. You should try not to let the wickets go early-on. You can cover it later. So, we were trying to do it, but we lost the wickets in it. But you covered it later.

[Reporter:]

During your partnership with Rizwan, there was a point where Netherlands had just three fielders inside the circle. So, did you spot that or did Rizwan spot it and how did that go?

[Saud Shakeel:]

Yeah, it was like when the bowler just started to run and suddenly, I thought that there is a like four fielders inside the circle. But I wasn't sure honestly speaking. I wasn't sure that there are four or less so I just came down the track and chipped like 50-50 chance to just chip there. And as soon as I realized that I saw that there are four fielders inside, I went to the umpire and said that it should be a no-ball. They had four fielders inside the circle. So, I was fortunate enough that I got a free hit and I capitalized on it by hitting a six.

[Reporter:]

[in Hindi]

You were saying that you had prepared for the batting at number 5 and 6. Can you give us some details on that? What changes did you bring in your preparations and practice made for that specific role?

[Saud Shakeel:]

[in Urdu]

I think it was more of a mindset change. Few years back I never used to hit big like this, I didn't take many chances. I preferred to play on the ground. But I made my mindset that I have to accept one thing, that where are your numbers to play against Pakistan. It is very important to realize this as a player. So, I made my game plan accordingly. I haven't changed much. I tried to adapt and I think the best thing is that we came to India to play the World Cup. It's really good here. If you settle here, you get the value of your shots. So, I think that's in my mind. And I try to stay in good shape and keep my technique so that I don't make shots that are too hard and I'm succeeding in that.
 
Saud Shakeel with his man of the match trophy after Pakistan vs Netherlands.

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Quotes from Mickey Arthur presenting Saud with Impactful player of the match:

The Impactful Player tonight, an impactful performance has to go to Saud Shakeel.

The reason he's got this is because he's walked in at about 40/3, under pressure, he's come in and taken the game on from the word go.

Fielders up? Bang, over the top! Created the gap to get a one because they then dropped the field, hit the sweepers and ran extremely hard, cashed in on any loose ball, but played with precision and intent that what we want - he created maximum impact today

68 off 52 balls when we are under pressure in a partnership with Rizzy

Saud - that is unbelievable, that is really really good batting in your first World cup game to have the guts to be able to take the game on like you did.

That's the way we want to play - that's the Pakistan way
 
He is a class batsman and he once again made a handy contribution for the team with his 31 runs innings in today's successful run-chase. He should be playing for Pakistan consistently for a long time.
 
He needs to understand finishing the job .He was out very casually against netherland which resulted in collapse today he also couldn't finish the match and played rash shot
 
He looks so composed against spin , takes singles with ease.

How the selectors / coaches overlooked him over the like of Salman Agha and other ttfs is beyond me
 
doing great, i have another question can babar try his spin bowling in next few matches surely 1-2 overs wont hurt anyone?
 
Saud gets the starts, looks good at the crease and then throws it away. He needs to put a value on his wicket.
 
He’s playing at the wrong position. He should be coming in at 3. He looks like a consolidator rather than somebody who can up the rate. When he tries to increase the rate he premeditates which is not good. If imam is playing then the no 3 is an openers position and Saud is ideally suited.

Rizwan is a t20 player. He should come lower down.
 
He fell for the trap of going against the spin and hitting to the open mid wicket region. A tough shot to attempt on a slow spinning wicket
 
He’s not done bad at all and he’s shows signs of his quality, just needs more experience and the big scores will come. I would definitely stick with him
 
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