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[VIDEOS] Shadab Khan: The batsman

It's 2 games. But he does seem to have a new sense of focus about him since being made captain. He wants to be a star and he acts like a star. He needs to work on his game before being recognised a star. Hopefully being given a position of leadership will help him improve as a player. If he concentrates on his game he can be a good player. After his initial start he hasn't made much progress.

I also think he has been made captain with an eye on him being an option just incase Babar Azam doesn't work out as captain.
 
good to see him developing as a good all round cricketer. He is not good enough to play as a bowler alone so need to work on his batting. This is a good start.
 
Seems like he has been made to bat at wrong positions in his international career
 
He was never a lower order bat. In the U19 WC in which he was discovered, he batted at 4 or 5. His best batting performances in international matches have been in tests, or in ODIs where the team collapsed and he had a lot of time to bat.
 
I hope he can turn this type of performence into international matches too but I don't think it will be the case I hope I am wrong
 
Doing really well as a pinch hitter. Takes a bit of time but good intent and some impressive stroke play.

He needs to improve his bowling though, enough to become the main spinner in the team. Imad is the darter / all rounder and is guaranteed to start so the main spin slot is still open.

Its a shame we haven't seen much of Mohsin, Qadir, Usama Mir, Zafar Gohar this tournament. They could have challenged Shadab.
 
He needs to work on his bowling first. He can never be a front line bowler with these sort of performances.
 
His batting has been decent but still needs work, specially his footwork and his bowling is also not perfect. He needs work, fortunately for him though, he does have age by his side.
 
dropped at 26 against lahore and dropped twice against quetta. No talent just hack.
 
Don’t let his run tally fool you. He is getting incredibly lucky with all the dropped catches. He will still flop in international cricket.

He is trying to salvage his fledging career and is selfishly batting at number 4 ahead of vastly superior players like Ingram, who was 63 not out yesterday and could have easily scored 80+ and perhaps won IU the game, had this fake superstar not selfishly promoted himself.

In the field he tries to act like a commanding captain but he doesn’t have the individual performances to be a leader.

A terribly ordinary cricketer who continues to write his own luck. The margin between him and a club cricketer who cannot even break into domestic cricket is very fine.
 
Mamoon said:
Don’t let his run tally fool you. He is getting incredibly lucky with all the dropped catches. He will still flop in international cricket.

He is trying to salvage his fledging career and is selfishly batting at number 4 ahead of vastly superior players like Ingram, who was 63 not out yesterday and could have easily scored 80+ and perhaps won IU the game, had this fake superstar not selfishly promoted himself.

In the field he tries to act like a commanding captain but he doesn’t have the individual performances to be a leader.

A terribly ordinary cricketer who continues to write his own luck. The margin between him and a club cricketer who cannot even break into domestic cricket is very fine.
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Haha that hate for him though! :)))

He's a better bowler than the darter Imad Wasim, and an equally bad hitter.

Yet you love the other fake allrounder.
 
Hawkeye said:
Haha that hate for him though! :)))

He's a better bowler than the darter Imad Wasim, and an equally bad hitter.

Yet you love the other fake allrounder.
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Imad is 10x better with the bat. With the ball, both are equally ineffective against quality teams.

The only reason you prefer Shadab over Imad is because he is Misbah’s captain, so please let’s not talk about hate, love and bias.
 
Mamoon said:
Imad is 10x better with the bat. With the ball, both are equally ineffective against quality teams.

The only reason you prefer Shadab over Imad is because he is Misbah’s captain, so please let’s not talk about hate, love and bias.
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10x better with the bat, I wish he was, because we need a dynamic #6 or #7.

Both can only hit loose balls in the slot, struggle vs. genuine pace and short balls.

The only reason I slightly prefer him is because of his bowling, can take wickets. Otherwise both aren't world class cricketers.
 
focus on ur bowling than batting.... he was super successful when he came in but lost the gold ... need tht magic of SPINNING the ball back
 
I’ve written in the Faheem thread that Shadab Khan’s role is not as a Mushtaq / Yasir / Intikhab specialist spinner (they averaged poorly outside Asia anyway).

His ideal role is as Mushtaq Muhammad: a decent Number 6 batsman who can also bowl 10 overs in an ODI and take wickets on Day 5 of a Test.
 
Hawkeye said:
10x better with the bat, I wish he was, because we need a dynamic #6 or #7.

Both can only hit loose balls in the slot, struggle vs. genuine pace and short balls.

The only reason I slightly prefer him is because of his bowling, can take wickets. Otherwise both aren't world class cricketers.
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Shadab struggles against anything over 140 kph. He is not good enough to be an all-rounder in international cricket.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Shadab struggles against anything over 140 kph. He is not good enough to be an all-rounder in international cricket.
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That's what I literally said. Imad does that too. Both have the same flaws. Short pitch bowling is also a problem for them.

Can't hit anything at good length or not in the slot.
 
Waiting for him to bat now.

He was wonderful during the psl, did some very good hitting and was amongest the top scorers.

Lets see how he does in test
 
Major said:
Waiting for him to bat now.

He was wonderful during the psl, did some very good hitting and was amongest the top scorers.

Lets see how he does in test
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He's going to be a flop. When this happens, Misbah and all his supporters will have to face the music.
 
topspin said:
He's going to be a flop. When this happens, Misbah and all his supporters will have to face the music.
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Misbah misbah misbah. Seriously, thats all you say in every post.
Gets boring
 
Major said:
Misbah misbah misbah. Seriously, thats all you say in every post.
Gets boring
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If Shadab was to not play he'd probably be mad and say Misbah doesn't support young talents. In teh Shan Masood thread he was also saying that apparently Misbah hates Shan :))
 
aloo paratha said:
If Shadab was to not play he'd probably be mad and say Misbah doesn't support young talents. In teh Shan Masood thread he was also saying that apparently Misbah hates Shan :))
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I have never seen him make a post without refering misbah.
Im misbahs fan, but even i dont mention him that much. He only destroys his own point by showing his prejudice.
 
aloo paratha said:
If Shadab was to not play he'd probably be mad and say Misbah doesn't support young talents. In teh Shan Masood thread he was also saying that apparently Misbah hates Shan :))
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Firstly, I never claimed Misbah hates Shan. I said there is a tendency for Misbah fans to dislike Shan. Most of them on here do and that is a fact.

Secondly, if we going to dismissive of someone on here, lets not forget when you were blowing Misbah's trumpet when ISLU won PSL even though he never made an appearance in the final (and some of the games leading up to that).
 
Major said:
I have never seen him make a post without refering misbah.
Im misbahs fan, but even i dont mention him that much. He only destroys his own point by showing his prejudice.
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Lol. You were making threads left, right and centre post retirement and prior to his appointment as Head Coach. This why I had to remind you of the fact that you'd buy anything that is Misbah branded like even his own branded number 2 lol.
 
topspin said:
Firstly, I never claimed Misbah hates Shan. I said there is a tendency for Misbah fans to dislike Shan. Most of them on here do and that is a fact.

Secondly, if we going to dismissive of someone on here, lets not forget when you were blowing Misbah's trumpet when ISLU won PSL even though he never made an appearance in the final (and some of the games leading up to that).
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I never "blew Misbah's trumpet" when he won the PSL. You're pulling stuff out of your backside.

Similarly pulling stuff from your backside by saying Misbah supporters are against Shan. Most on here support Shan, whether they were in favour of Mickey staying coach or Misbah being coach.

It's only you who brings Misbah into any discussion.
 
Major said:
Waiting for him to bat now.

He was wonderful during the psl, did some very good hitting and was amongest the top scorers.

Lets see how he does in test
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He is a test batsman, not sure whether can be a number 6 tho
He only developed the power shots during the cpl
 
60 or more runs in the match will do at this stage of his career.

If I were him, play positively, he looks so much better when taking on the bowling.
 
aloo paratha said:
I never "blew Misbah's trumpet" when he won the PSL. You're pulling stuff out of your backside.

Similarly pulling stuff from your backside by saying Misbah supporters are against Shan. Most on here support Shan, whether they were in favour of Mickey staying coach or Misbah being coach.

It's only you who brings Misbah into any discussion.
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I don’t think you realise but you just proven my point. Going by your wording, you’ve given credit to Misbah for winning that PSL tournament even though the team managed to win it without him, if you go by his appearances and performances.

In case you try to deny it in future, I have made a screenshot to ensure you will be put in your place once again.
 
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He has looked so bad previously in international cricket, especially LOI's that it was hard to imagine him doing well with the bat.

But his PSL performances were quite impressive as he played like a good batsman.
Moreover with the absence of Harris Sohail in the midle order it is a good time to give him a chance.
 
Lot of intent and doing well - already 20*
 
33* off 49 now. Shame on "seniors" like Shafiq and our captain Azhar.
 
He is doing pretty good. I expected Asad to do well and Shadab to flop. But, opposite happened.
 
Important innings today he has provided momentum and a good partnership
 
Mobashir said:
He has looked so bad previously in international cricket, especially LOI's that it was hard to imagine him doing well with the bat.

But his PSL performances were quite impressive as he played like a good batsman.
Moreover with the absence of Harris Sohail in the midle order it is a good time to give him a chance.
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Ironically he has always done well in Tests compared to ODI's.

Maybe because the format allows him to settle down first.
 
His style reminds me a little of Malik's batting - quick singles, finesse batting. But Shadab has more potential
 
Such a solid technique.

Looks way more comfortable at the crease than Abid Ali, Azhar Ali and Rizwan.
 
There is a lot to be impressed about Shadab's knock despite the lose of concentration. He rotated strike well, solid technique and look pretty comfortable at the crease. He's done well with the bat so far, let's see how he does with the ball.
 
My prediction remains that he will turn into a batting allrounder in a few years time. Just like Malik his batting has more potential.

Not the level of Stevie S, but could see a Malik like turnaround in his career. His basic batting technique is solid.
 
This is why I wanted them to play him. He's exactly the type of all-rounder you want in a good test side, someone who can play counter-attacking innings down the order and be a wicket taking threat when he bowls. He's not gonna perform every time, but you need to be patient with all rounders.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
My prediction remains that he will turn into a batting allrounder in a few years time. Just like Malik his batting has more potential.

Not the level of Stevie S, but could see a Malik like turnaround in his career. His basic batting technique is solid.
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He was always a batsmen. Bowling was his secondary thing.

The guy used to self train for his batting
 
He was way to antsy against the spinner, wanting to dominate him.
 
topspin said:
I don’t think you realise but you just proven my point. Going by your wording, you’ve given credit to Misbah for winning that PSL tournament even though the team managed to win it without him, if you go by his appearances and performances.

In case you try to deny it in future, I have made a screenshot to ensure you will be put in your place once again.
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That's the most idiotic argument I've heard from you yet:))

It's very common to use x player won x tournament even if it's a team sport. For example, saying "Lebron James has won the championship x amount of times" or "Ronaldo won the Euors in 2016".

And how did they win without him? In the 2016 PSL he scored 166 runs and was the captain of the team. Is it because he didn't score in the final? In that case I guess Eoin Morgan doesn't get any credit for England's World Cup win since he didn't score in the final.
 
His dismissal today was annoying, if he remained at the crease we could've scored 350-400. He has potential with the bat in test match cricket, we should stick with him.
 
Shadab missed the oppurtunity today.

Look had the pitch not been a spinning wicket, the team managment woukd had played fawad in his place. He got in the team cause of his bowling.
He batted well but had he got a 70 atleast, he would had cemented his place for the next match irrespect to whether the wicket for nect match is spinning or batting wicket.
Anyways, lets see how he bats in the second innings
 
aloo paratha said:
His dismissal today was annoying, if he remained at the crease we could've scored 350-400. He has potential with the bat in test match cricket, we should stick with him.
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Defo should stick with him he played a decent knock
 
Major said:
Shadab missed the oppurtunity today.

Look had the pitch not been a spinning wicket, the team managment woukd had played fawad in his place. He got in the team cause of his bowling.
He batted well but had he got a 70 atleast, he would had cemented his place for the next match irrespect to whether the wicket for nect match is spinning or batting wicket.
Anyways, lets see how he bats in the second innings
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A quickfire 40-50 in the second innings can also cement his place in the team.
 
That horrific shot to throw his wicket away said it all.

You can never out-practice tail-ender instincts. If you have them in you, you will never make it as a batsman.

Those who expect him to become a reliable batsman with experience are setting themselves up for disappointment.

He needs to justify and cement his place with his bowling and he hasn’t done that so far.
 
Mamoon said:
That horrific shot to throw his wicket away said it all.

You can never out-practice tail-ender instincts. If you have them in you, you will never make it as a batsman.

Those who expect him to become a reliable batsman with experience are setting themselves up for disappointment.

He needs to justify and cement his place with his bowling and he hasn’t done that so far.
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Bad shot to get out at a stage when Pakistan were in control.

Having said that it can be said quite comfortably that it was Shadab that helped Pakistan retain control after 3 wickets went down in first session. His positivity in batting also reciprocated into Shan's mentality.

Shadab is quite a utility cricketer, he bring energy and positivity with him together with ability to play amazing cameos in all departments bat, ball or field. Shadab would never be a front batsman or a bowler but he will always be that supporting actor whose contributions leads to wins.
 
Extra_Cover said:
Bad shot to get out at a stage when Pakistan were in control.

Having said that it can be said quite comfortably that it was Shadab that helped Pakistan retain control after 3 wickets went down in first session. His positivity in batting also reciprocated into Shan's mentality.

Shadab is quite a utility cricketer, he bring energy and positivity with him together with ability to play amazing cameos in all departments bat, ball or field. Shadab would never be a front batsman or a bowler but he will always be that supporting actor whose contributions leads to wins.
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Defo upgrade compared to ashraf
 
Mamoon said:
That horrific shot to throw his wicket away said it all.

You can never out-practice tail-ender instincts. If you have them in you, you will never make it as a batsman.

Those who expect him to become a reliable batsman with experience are setting themselves up for disappointment.

He needs to justify and cement his place with his bowling and he hasn’t done that so far.
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Hes playing as a all rounder not front line batesman or front line bowler
 
Mamoon said:
That horrific shot to throw his wicket away said it all.

You can never out-practice tail-ender instincts. If you have them in you, you will never make it as a batsman.

Those who expect him to become a reliable batsman with experience are setting themselves up for disappointment.

He needs to justify and cement his place with his bowling and he hasn’t done that so far.
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Bad shot yes. But he played an impactful cameo.

When rizwan was there pakistan was going no where. Rizwan was trying to go after every ball and looked clueless. Shadab was patient. He did try to fish it once or twice but he was calm. Shadab was rewarded when the opposing captain bought on spinners and he went after them. He kept shan masood on his toes and the reason why shan got some of his runs in that partnership was cause of shadab. They literally stole singles.
Later when yasir camr to bad, shan asked yasir to run 2-3 times but was denied.

Shadab helped rotate the strike, but he was after his fifty amd committed a mistake that shan also dod aswell when he was on his 40s too.

This is why i said, had shadab been smart and batted for 70 runs atleast, could had booked his spot.


Lets see what he does in second innings, but if you had watched his batting today u woulsnt be doscrediting him
 
Shadab is a game changer.

Be it with the bat or ball.

Accept it or not - but he is.
 
Can't argue with 45 runs and a crucial partnership with Shan from Shadab.

Gutsy effort, loved the energy and determination.
 
Major said:
Bad shot yes. But he played an impactful cameo.

When rizwan was there pakistan was going no where. Rizwan was trying to go after every ball and looked clueless. Shadab was patient. He did try to fish it once or twice but he was calm. Shadab was rewarded when the opposing captain bought on spinners and he went after them. He kept shan masood on his toes and the reason why shan got some of his runs in that partnership was cause of shadab. They literally stole singles.
Later when yasir camr to bad, shan asked yasir to run 2-3 times but was denied.

Shadab helped rotate the strike, but he was after his fifty amd committed a mistake that shan also dod aswell when he was on his 40s too.

This is why i said, had shadab been smart and batted for 70 runs atleast, could had booked his spot.


Lets see what he does in second innings, but if you had watched his batting today u woulsnt be doscrediting him
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Very good point. Shaan did something similar and gor away with it. But somebody wants to come and shove tailender tendencies down our throat
 
But but but, he's such a club level player and more interested in bling than cricket, he shouldn't be in the team.
 
I thought he was a complete bunny with the bat. Played a decent innings getting out to a needless shot.
 
He has a lot of potential with the bat and has not done it justice- true Shadab fans or Shadievers know this.

This was just a little preview. As I said before today’s play I hope he becomes consistent and this is a big step up from him. He can do a lot more and become a true bonafide allrounder.

PSL watchers thought he was just a one off six hitter, he can hit big, but he can play proper too as he has shown today and in the past here and there.
 
It's frustrating because today was the perfect time for him to better his high score, get at least 60-70 runs, who knows, maybe even a century.
 
With a bit more patience, he can do wonders on that batting position.
 
Shadab doing his thing again - looks like he has a plan/method to his batting.
 
He gets 1 or 2 decent scores and people celebrate the performance. He has a lot to prove that as an all rounder .
 
Hasan123 said:
He gets 1 or 2 decent scores and people celebrate the performance. He has a lot to prove that as an all rounder .
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he does, but there is no real competition for the spot. plus all rounders usually have pretty poor stats for 15 or 20 tests, very rarely do u see someone doing well all round within first few tests.
 
He will always be a glorified tail-ender. He will score 25 runs and people will celebrate.
 
Mamoon said:
He will always be a glorified tail-ender. He will score 25 runs and people will celebrate.
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Na bro. He has potential. Guy bats with intent. I have seen him bat in domestic games he approaches the chase quite smartly.
He has age on his side and could develop into a good batsmen.
 
ElRaja said:
he does, but there is no real competition for the spot. plus all rounders usually have pretty poor stats for 15 or 20 tests, very rarely do u see someone doing well all round within first few tests.
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I would rather plays specialist batters or bowlers if the all rounder is not good enough.
 
Pacy with wisdom said:
Not comparing the two but what were stokes stats like in his first 10-15 tests like?
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batting average of 27 and bowling average of 42 after 20 tests. scored 258 against SA in his next test and never looked back since.

kallis after 15 tests averaged 26 with the bat and 42 with the ball. flintoff average 20 with the bat and 47 with ball after 20 tests. chris cairns after 15 tests average 20 with the bat and 34 with ball.

investing in an all rounder is a massive risk, but the payout if they come good is huge. either shadab fails to develop and costs a place in the team for 3 or 4 years, or he does and balances the test side out for 10 or 15 years.
 
An all-rounder needs a breakthrough to gain confidence; the problem with Shadab is that he is also a leg-spinner. They develop very late (Warne matured at 24-25 and Yasir at 26-28).

He will learn on the job because the quality of FC in Pakistan is terrible.
 
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