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This was something that was picked up by Pakistan during the India Pakistan MCG Clash when Virat told the umpire about the waist high no-ball.

Today, a similar incident vs Bangladesh where he told the umpire about second short ball of the over...

Getting a little much this.
 
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Isn't much different to batsmen complaining about wide not given or bowlers continuing to appeal even when the decision is turned down.
 
I guess depends on match situations but the umpires need to make it clear to batters whose in charge
 
Kohli and Sharma should start respecting umpires.
As an Indian, I'm ashamed to watch such behavior from our seniors.
Respect the game..
 
Nothing wrong with this. Players are allowed to complain to the umpires as long as they are not being offensive and disrespectful. Happens in every sport.

It is the umpire’s prerogative if he gets influenced or not.
 
Complaining to umpire usually results in a fine, not really allowed,
 
14.6 Hardik Pandya to Nurul Hasan, no run, superb end to the over from Hardik Pandya. The slower off-cutter outside off, Nurul Hasan slogs and misses, asks for the wide from umpire Chris Brown but he gets nothing. To be fair, it was inside the tramline on the off-side
 
Kianig89 said:
Kohli knows from where these umpires are being paid
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Yah And Since When Appealing To The Umpire Gets Wrong In Cricket? Even Bangladeshi Batsman Had Appealed For A Wide Ball In Hardik's Over. This Is Not Something New, It Has Happened In The Past Too But Somehow Some Sore Fans Think Likes " Oh This Is World Cup" " Oh This Is India BCC ICC Tournament IPl Contract" So There Must Be A Connection. Mind You This Cricket Not A Board Game Of Chess, Cricket Has Always Been Played In Traditional Manners, Sometimes Umpire's Decision Favour You Sometimes Not But That Doesn't Mean They Got Payed By Some Cricket Board.
 
Yes I have never seen a batsman making gestures to umpire that its a wide or no-ball.
 
player influencing an umpire is an offence, but than again it depends if the umpire complains to match referee
 
Major said:
player influencing an umpire is an offence, but than again it depends if the umpire complains to match referee
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We see that a lot in football as well. Part of job description for the umpires is not to get influenced.
 
SamNJ said:
Yes I have never seen a batsman making gestures to umpire that its a wide or no-ball.
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That just means you're yet to watch a full innings (or even a straight 5 over, especially last 5 overs)
 
Actually it's a great game awareness by Kohli. Normally he'd leave that ball and collect a wide.. he knows they already bowl one short ball so he played that ball to collect a no ball and a free hit..
 
This was the 2nd bouncer(over the shoulder) in the over. So, it looks like a legitimate no ball.
 
Kohli is such a great gift to the game.

Kohli the batsman

Kohli the match winner

Kohli the umpire.

Haan bhai, umpire ko ghar bhej do. Kohli sahab khud handle kar lenge. Appalling behaviour.
 
I've watched the Ind-Pak replay multiple times now :)

Firstly, DK received a high full toss and Kohli had already remonstrated about it, but since Karthik was down the pitch, no one cared. By then, Virat had planted this aspect in the umpires' minds.

Now this is something I only noticed during the replays - before the no-ball, you could again see Virat talking to the square-leg umpire and suggesting that he take note where he was standing because there could be a no-ball. He had predicted the possibility of the ball slipping out, with Nawaz trying to go yorker full. A sideon slomo of the ump shows him staring for a bit at Kohli's waist before turning to see what had happened at the boundary.

Kohli's match-awareness was genius. And that's all there was to it. He is on another level of being in the moment.

And yeah on topic, no harm in reminding the umpires of the laws in case they forget things in the heat of the moment. As long as he's not intimidating the umpires like Richards, Ponting and Dhoni have done, there's no issue here.
 
I am amazed at Kohli's clarity of mind that he can signal a wide/no-ball as soon as it is delivered while playing a shot. He is a uniquely hungry and driven cricketer.
 
pillionrider said:
I've watched the Ind-Pak replay multiple times now :)

Firstly, DK received a high full toss and Kohli had already remonstrated about it, but since Karthik was down the pitch, no one cared. By then, Virat had planted this aspect in the umpires' minds.

Now this is something I only noticed during the replays - before the no-ball, you could again see Virat talking to the square-leg umpire and suggesting that he take note where he was standing because there could be a no-ball. He had predicted the possibility of the ball slipping out, with Nawaz trying to go yorker full. A sideon slomo of the ump shows him staring for a bit at Kohli's waist before turning to see what had happened at the boundary.

Kohli's match-awareness was genius. And that's all there was to it. He is on another level of being in the moment.

And yeah on topic, no harm in reminding the umpires of the laws in case they forget things in the heat of the moment. As long as he's not intimidating the umpires like Richards, Ponting and Dhoni have done, there's no issue here.
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Good observation. I saw that too. He has a very good rapport with all the umpires. Post game hand shakes show he's joking around with them etc. That's what great ones do. They respect the umps and referees for that little edge.
 
Smbhayi said:
That just means you're yet to watch a full innings (or even a straight 5 over, especially last 5 overs)
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Was being sarcastic. Batsmen do it all the time when they feel umpire is missing a call. Don't know what's the big deal here.
 
pillionrider said:
I've watched the Ind-Pak replay multiple times now :)

Firstly, DK received a high full toss and Kohli had already remonstrated about it, but since Karthik was down the pitch, no one cared. By then, Virat had planted this aspect in the umpires' minds.

Now this is something I only noticed during the replays - before the no-ball, you could again see Virat talking to the square-leg umpire and suggesting that he take note where he was standing because there could be a no-ball. He had predicted the possibility of the ball slipping out, with Nawaz trying to go yorker full. A sideon slomo of the ump shows him staring for a bit at Kohli's waist before turning to see what had happened at the boundary.

Kohli's match-awareness was genius. And that's all there was to it. He is on another level of being in the moment.

And yeah on topic, no harm in reminding the umpires of the laws in case they forget things in the heat of the moment. As long as he's not intimidating the umpires like Richards, Ponting and Dhoni have done, there's no issue here.
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This.
Well explained.
 
This is just gamesmanship and is something that most players need to learn. This is nothing different to footballers constantly reminding umpires to brandish a yellow card. They remind the referee of past transgressions. Great going Kohli. This is #haqeeqiazadi by Kohli. :P Nobody is going to hand favorable decisions for you on a platter.

Kohli did the same when DK got a full toss against Nawaz and it puts the umpires on the backfoot from thereon. Babar should've reversed the pressure and gone to the umpires to complain about Kohli's behaviour on the DK delivery. It would've been gamesmanship on Babar's part but he is a timid captain and doesn't possess half the game awareness that Kohli has.
 
Never been a fan of any players interfering in umpiring decisions.

Also never been a fan of umpires being influenced by players.
 
loves_cricket said:
Anyone who have more power money
So try to make yourself bigger and rule the game
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THIS !!!

Might is right.

Other than that, we live in a a dog eat dog world ..... Be it politics or sports, there is no right and there is no wrong - as long as you have the power, YOU decide what's right and what's wrong. You can cry all you want and beat the bush around morality but this is how the world works.
 
Colorblind Genius said:
I am sure you can't even tell me what exactly does an "Appeal" mean in cricket without searching Google. Can you?
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I Know What Appeal Means In Cricket And For Your Understanding I Was Talking About "Appealing" As An English Word Like Kohli Was Appealing/Asking For The No Ball Bouncer. If I Am Not Wrong BaankeJi Was Referring About Kohli's Incident.
 
Saj said:
Never been a fan of any players interfering in umpiring decisions.

Also never been a fan of umpires being influenced by players.
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Well as I see it, a bowler tries to influence the umpire every time he cries out “Howzzat”.
Do you want that to be banned as well?

Appealing is a part of every sport - soccer, tennis, etc. As long as players aren’t arguing violently or stopping play or walking off the field, nothing wrong in it. There is no evidence here that the appealing had any bearing on umpiring decision.
 
dildilpak said:
Well as I see it, a bowler tries to influence the umpire every time he cries out “Howzzat”.
Do you want that to be banned as well?

Appealing is a part of every sport - soccer, tennis, etc. As long as players aren’t arguing violently or stopping play or walking off the field, nothing wrong in it. There is no evidence here that the appealing had any bearing on umpiring decision.
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We all know what appealing is and we all know what the other stuff is.
 
Bowlers can appeal as loud and as hard as they want- that also pressures umpires. Why is it wrong if a batsman does it.

If an umpire is not mentally strong enough to hold his nerve up against player pressure, then he shouldn’t be umpiring
 
This was seriously weird and not the first time this has happened even in this tournament.

I don't blame Kohli for doing this. Here or in the Pakistan match. But for Erasmus to make a decision after Kohli complained shows him in a very incompetent light.

Also, why is it that when Kohli does fake fielding, Erasmus is unmoved. But when Kohli complains, he has no problem at all following his directions.
 
Resistance is futile

Any referee who locks eyes with Kohli is in a mental trance and he wills them to do what he wants. The umpire becomes so in awe of Kohli that they trust his judgement over their impressions and overrule their own assessments of a delivery.
 
RexRex said:
Resistance is futile

Any referee who locks eyes with Kohli is in a mental trance and he wills them to do what he wants. The umpire becomes so in awe of Kohli that they trust his judgement over their impressions and overrule their own assessments of a delivery.
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Erasmus is one of the umpires who has officiated most IPL matches. So yes that is the trance.
 
shariqnoor said:
This is just gamesmanship and is something that most players need to learn. This is nothing different to footballers constantly reminding umpires to brandish a yellow card. They remind the referee of past transgressions. Great going Kohli. This is #haqeeqiazadi by Kohli. :P Nobody is going to hand favorable decisions for you on a platter.

Kohli did the same when DK got a full toss against Nawaz and it puts the umpires on the backfoot from thereon. Babar should've reversed the pressure and gone to the umpires to complain about Kohli's behaviour on the DK delivery. It would've been gamesmanship on Babar's part but he is a timid captain and doesn't possess half the game awareness that Kohli has.
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Best response right here.

The onus is on Babar to transfer the pressure in his favour and perhaps have a word with Kohli but the man has no spine because he's probably the most timid captain the sport has ever seen.
 
Kohli like other players on the field is appealing to what he sees as right. Appealing and instructing are two different things. Umpires don't get instructed by the players and this thread title demeans them.
 
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ChennaiFan said:
The Kohli like other players on the field is appealing to what he sees as right. Appealing and instructing are two different things. Umpires don't get instructed by the players and this thread title demeans them.
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Can't Blame Them This Match Caused Their Equation For Qualifying Into The Semis
 
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murakh1 said:
Can't Blame Them This Match Caused Their Equation For Qualifying Into The Semis
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I do understand the frustration of seeing their team getting knocked out of the WC. But the conspiracy theories/stories show the sore loser mindset of a few of the fans :-) The Pakistan cricket team is good. They just did not play well in this tournament, but they did well consistently in the last couple of years. Bashing that team as if it is a nothing team or suspecting foul play by opponents and officials are extreme cringe-worthy stances.
 
I think gesturing to the umpire has been happening for a long time. Kohli is not the first one. The first instinct of a batter when he feels something is a no-ball or wide is to enquire the umpire. If the umpire got influenced that is not the fault of the player. Also that was second high bouncer of the over and Virat was just pointing that out. I was at the ground yesterday and I noticed what Virat was gesturing.
 
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Aaron Finch gestured high ball after hitting a high full toss for six to get to his fifty against Ireland.
 
ChennaiFan said:
I do understand the frustration of seeing their team getting knocked out of the WC. But the conspiracy theories/stories show the sore loser mindset of a few of the fans :-) The Pakistan cricket team is good. They just did not play well in this tournament, but they did well consistently in the last couple of years. Bashing that team as if it is a nothing team or suspecting foul play by opponents and officials are extreme cringe-worthy stances.
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We crashed out in first round itself in last T20 WC. We didn't lay into anyone, umpires or referees.
 
Waqar Younis said, “Shakib is saying you do your batting, let the umpires do umpiring. He is saying the same things that we said. That if you are going to call something, you are going to put pressure on the umpire, then of course he is a big name. So sometimes umpires are under pressure.”

Wasim Akram, however, said, “I think it’s a natural thing for the batsman, if they see a wide, they gesture to the umpire anyway. I don’t know the laws of today. Maybe a present player can tell us.”

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...ends-have-split-opinions-on-incident-8245895/
 
Don’t batsmen get fined for showing bat, indicating an edge, during an lbw appeal? How is this any different?
 
Saj said:
We all know what appealing is and we all know what the other stuff is.
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If umpires can be pressurized by using IPL money, I guess BCCI would do that in closed doors, not in full public view on live television.
 
The likes of Kohli get treated differently by umpires around the world.

I guess it's due to too much respect, fear of the player, fear of fans backlash, fear of media backlash.

Whatever the reason(s), it needs sorting out.
 
Charisma and performance win respect. Unfortunately we haven't had such a cricketer in the last 2 decades. Instead of moaning we should admire a genius at work and aim to find such a player ourselves.
 
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giri26 said:
I think gesturing to the umpire has been happening for a long time. Kohli is not the first one. The first instinct of a batter when he feels something is a no-ball or wide is to enquire the umpire. If the umpire got influenced that is not the fault of the player. Also that was second high bouncer of the over and Virat was just pointing that out. I was at the ground yesterday and I noticed what Virat was gesturing.
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1) wide controversy
2) batsmens shouldn't run after ball hitting the stumps of a free hit (15 years after law was created)
3) kohli deliberately dropped a catch
4) BD played too early after rain stoppage
5) fake throw
6) Kohli instructed umpire
7) ICC Umpires umpiring in IPL
8) BCCI is controlling cricketing laws lol

not sure if I left out anything

All have one thing.. impacting Pakistan's advancement to next round. I expect this farce to continue.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
1) wide controversy
2) batsmens shouldn't run after ball hitting the stumps of a free hit (15 years after law was created)
3) kohli deliberately dropped a catch
4) BD played too early after rain stoppage
5) fake throw
6) Kohli instructed umpire
7) ICC Umpires umpiring in IPL
8) BCCI is controlling cricketing laws lol

not sure if I left out anything

All have one thing.. impacting Pakistan's advancement to next round. I expect this farce to continue.
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I hope India win convincingly against Zimbabwe, otherwise the latter will be accused of losing on purpose as well if it is a tight game :)
 
par said:
If umpires can be pressurized by using IPL money, I guess BCCI would do that in closed doors, not in full public view on live television.
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Umpires dont need to be GIVEN money to influence them. Their lucrative IPL contracts (which they will choose over any other league) itself may create conflict of interest where they can give close calls in favour of India. This may not even be illegal by the rules because close calls can go either way. However, if such calls keep going India's way due to the aforementioned reasons especially in crunch situations, obviously people will raise questions about the integrity of the umpires. All of the world is talking about these things now and all of the world cannot be wrong. The world isnt out to get bcci.
 
Team India has cheated alot in this world t20.

Im waiting for what they gonna do against Zimbabwe, would be hilarious if they cheat against them
 
Former Pakistan coach Waqar Younis said Kohli should not have indicated anything to the umpires.

"Shakib is telling him that 'you bat, and let umpires do their job'. I think they are discussing, what we were talking about. If you are going to call something and are going to put pressure on the umpire...then of course, he is a big name. Virat Kohli is a big name. He is a massive name in cricket so umpire sometimes come under pressure"

NDTV
 
jnaveen1980 said:
1) wide controversy
2) batsmens shouldn't run after ball hitting the stumps of a free hit (15 years after law was created)
3) kohli deliberately dropped a catch
4) BD played too early after rain stoppage
5) fake throw
6) Kohli instructed umpire
7) ICC Umpires umpiring in IPL
8) BCCI is controlling cricketing laws lol

not sure if I left out anything

All have one thing.. impacting Pakistan's advancement to next round. I expect this farce to continue.
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Conspiracy theories are their favourite pass time in every field of life.
 
Cricket South Africa (CSA) has introduced a number of laws for the inaugural edition of the SA20. One of the rules is that a batter won't get any runs off a free-hit if the bowler hits the stumps.

Had the same rule been there in the T20 World Cup, Kohli wouldn't have got three runs in the crucial Super 12 encounter against Pakistan at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.

With India needing 13 off three balls while chasing 160, Mohammad Nawaz bowled a waist-high full toss and Kohli smashed it over the leg-side boundary for a six. Suddenly, the target was down to six runs off three balls.

Nawaz crumbled under the pressure and bowled a wide, which meant that the free hit stayed. On the free-hit, Kohli went for an almighty swing, but missed the ball altogether. Nawaz hit the stumps, but Kohli collected three off the delivery by running.

The runs turned out to be important as India secured a four-wicket win to start their World Cup campaign on a stupendous note.

Apart from the free-hit rule, the CSA also introduced three others. There won't be any overthrow runs if the ball deflects off the stumps in a run-out attempt. The rule was introduced to encourage "positive and attacking fielding."

Captains can nominate 13 players before coming out to toss. After the toss, the team is allowed to omit two players and form their playing XI.

Each team will get four points for a win, but there are incentives to pounce on. If a team can win with a run rate of more than 1.25 than their opponent, they will get a fifth point.

The opening match of the SA20 will take place between MI Cape Town and Paarl Royals on Tuesday, January 10.


https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/cr...0-world-cup-vs-pakistan/ar-AA16aNdK?ocid=XMMO
 
Team India's star batter Virat Kohli was dismissed in a rather controversial manner on Day 2 of the second Test against Australia. Kohli was given out lbw by the on-field umpire Nitin Menon off debutant Matthew Kuhnemann and a review declared it too close to judge whether the ball hit the bat or pad first, before tracking suggested it was hitting leg stump. Third umpire Richard Illingworth upheld the decision, much to the surprise of Kohli, who went back unhappy and was seen animated while watching replays in the pavilion.

Kohli's frustration, however, didn't seem to end there. When India returned to take the field for Australia's second innings, Kohli was seen having a detailed chat with Nitin Menon. The crowd soon realised that the two were conversing as Kohli followed Menon towards the square leg umpire's position, and cheered on for the India batter.

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How is it Nitin Menon's fault?. I agree he is a pathetic umpire, but the guy upstairs had only one job to do and he messed it up.
 
MenInG said:
Yes the difference is, when VK asked for it ....
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Well difference is that was 2nd high full toss against Kohli..
And umpire should be blamed here (or both case), they should've checked for height.. heard umpire is Afghani, so maybe bit biased..
 
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