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[VIDEOS] What now for Mohammad Hasnain?

What now for Mohammad Hasnain?

  • He is done as a bowler

    Votes: 6 10.3%

  • He will make a comeback and be back to normal speed

    Votes: 28 48.3%

  • He will make a comeback but not be the same again

    Votes: 24 41.4%
  • Total voters
    58
Good news. He is young and it appeared not to be a major kink / unfixable so hopefully it has been fixed
 
Wasnt that lethal in international cricket with the old action anyway.

I very much doubt he will succeed much with a modified action. Hope i am wrong though.

Annoyed that PCB wasted millions on the useless Waqar Yunus to coach these young guns.
 
gazza619 said:
Wasnt that lethal in international cricket with the old action anyway.

I very much doubt he will succeed much with a modified action. Hope i am wrong though.

Annoyed that PCB wasted millions on the useless Waqar Yunus to coach these young guns.
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There were quite a few things in his action (Other then the legality) which were preventing Hasnain to be as consistent as one would have liked. Hopefully coaches have worked with him from that perspective as well because as per some experts/ex players Hasnian's action issue was a by product of the other issues he had or developed over time.
 
I always worry about these 'modified' actions. More often than not the bowler isn't quite what he once was.

Let's see, I just hope that the new action doesn't make him totally ineffective.
 
Don’t understand why you need a “remodelled” action. Just fix the kink in the arm. It may slightly affect his foot/body position but I should think it’s minimal.

If you bowl 150k even with a kink you do have some pace. There have been bowlers with illegal actions who have been trundlers.

What he needs more is just repetition. This should be more about hard work than coping with a new action.
 
Included as part of the 60 player list for the NHCP camp - so looks like he's ready to go!
 
Let's hope he can make a swift return to the player he was. At least he is young, and not having to remodel an action he's been using for years and years (in international cricket at least).
 
Saj said:
I always worry about these 'modified' actions. More often than not the bowler isn't quite what he once was.

Let's see, I just hope that the new action doesn't make him totally ineffective.
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Agreed.

Has there ever been a case where a bowler improved or maintained their performance after a change ?

Didn't Waqar change his action after injuries?
 
Abstraction1 said:
Agreed.

Has there ever been a case where a bowler improved or maintained their performance after a change ?

Didn't Waqar change his action after injuries?
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I think it depends upon the type of change which is being made and that is dependent upon the reason for the change in action. Changing of actions because a certain part of the body is struggling to cope with the workload of the previous action has completely different dynamics then correcting a slight kink in the arm along with other alignment issues. Almost every other bowler we have seen on international or are seeing has some sort of minor adjustments done at early stage of their careers and sometimes later as well.

In terms of injury based modification Pat Cummins when came onto the scene was even quicker but, with a slightly different action which made him struggle with back injuries. His action was slightly modified and since returning to international cricket he has not looked back and there hasn't been any serious injury issue as well.

In terms of illegal action most recent example is of Taskin Ahmed from Bangladesh got called for illegal action, since his comeback from that he looks a better bowler with more rhythm to his runup and action and is bowling possibly slightly quicker then he was on average. Was outstanding vs SA as well and got man of the series.

It takes extra bowling in nets and some match time to get used to the new action however, like many other things it really depends upon how much effort you are willing to put in. We have had numerous successful action modifications as well as numerous bad ones. Hasnain didn't require any extraordinary change, just some minor adjustments so unless it goes horribly wrong I don't think there should be much issue in terms of being atleast as effective he previously was (I am hoping for betterment though like we have seen in Taskin's case).
 
Abstraction1 said:
Agreed.

Has there ever been a case where a bowler improved or maintained their performance after a change ?

Didn't Waqar change his action after injuries?
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Narine from spinners.

Anwar ali from pacers i guess. Imran improved with an action change.

So you never know, if his fixed acrions means losing 5-9 kph but gaining more control, i woul have no issue
 
Major said:
Narine from spinners.

Anwar ali from pacers i guess. Imran improved with an action change.

So you never know, if his fixed acrions means losing 5-9 kph but gaining more control, i woul have no issue
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Anwar Ali had a pretty devastating change to his action though right?

Considering his ability to swing the ball so effectively to becoming very one-dimensional.
 
LAHORE: Pakistan’s young pacer Mohammad Hasnain has rectified his bowling action under the supervision of the National High-Performance Center (NHPC) bowling coach Umar Rasheed, here on Tuesday.

The 22-years-old Hasnain, whose bowling action was reported by the Australian umpires in the Big Bash League (BBL) 11, underwent a bowling action test at a local laboratory here.

The reports suggested that the right-arm pacer’s elbow was found within the legal range of 15-degrees. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) will formally request the International Cricket Council (ICC) for a review after complete satisfaction.

A-sports
 
Good to hear... if the ICC had any backbone, Bumrah wpuld be called for chucking. Let's hope.someone calls him out soon.
 
Abstraction1 said:
Agreed.

Has there ever been a case where a bowler improved or maintained their performance after a change ?

Didn't Waqar change his action after injuries?
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Dennis Lillee would be the most famous example.

Pat Cummins has changed his action a fair bit from his early days.

James Pattinson had a major remodel and was still a lethal bowler, just kept getting injuries despite the changes though.

Javagal Srinath completely changed his early action after working with Lillee and got better and better.

These weren't elbow issues though.

Oh, Andy Roberts completely changed the angle of his arm/height and position of release. Didn't do him any harm.
 
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He looks slower and uncomfortable in this new bowling action
 
Not side on this video - would have been more useful.
 
Looks like a no fuss action to me. I think, imo, he isn't adding that hip drive which basically catapults your arms and adds that extra pace. Maybe still adjusting to new action but should add hip drive to increase pace. Pretty simple action. Another thing which i noted was lack of arching of back. Maybe he was just trying to bowl and perhaps not bowl fast. All the best to him. Like this guy
 
wrongun said:
Dennis Lillee would be the most famous example.

Pat Cummins has changed his action a fair bit from his early days.

James Pattinson had a major remodel and was still a lethal bowler, just kept getting injuries despite the changes though.

Javagal Srinath completely changed his early action after working with Lillee and got better and better.

These weren't elbow issues though.

Oh, Andy Roberts completely changed the angle of his arm/height and position of release. Didn't do him any harm.
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Imran Khan also remodelled his action quite a lot after making his intl debut
 
According to reports, The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has sent Mohammad Hasnain's biomechanics test report to Cricket Australia (CA)
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mohammad Hasnain "it is my belief that when I get into rhythm again and play more matches my pace will actually increase and I will be a better bowler with the new bowling action" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1554017920342269952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2022</a></blockquote>
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I just can't believe how well Hasnain has come back from the setback, remodeled his action and is already bowling this fast in a high pressure game.

The new generation of players - Hasnain, Naseem, Shadab, Rauf, Shaheen - have so much hunger to improve and get better, it is amazing to see.

Compare this to the older generation - Wahab, Irfan, Rahat, Ehsan, Nouman - who kept bowling the same 3 or 4 balls all through their careers with zero improvement, eventually sussed out by batsmen.

It doesn't hurt they are under Babar's leadership shadow, himself a voracious learner and hard worker, as opposed to Misbah/Azhar who stopped learning in their 30's and relied on muscle memory.

The future bodes well.
 
His avg pace has improved massively, well done to NHPC coach
 
shah_1 said:
His avg pace has improved massively, well done to NHPC coach
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Umar Rasheed (Brother of Haroon Rasheed) who worked with him and is now with Pak national team as well as a support/assistant to bowling coach.
 
He bowled brilliantly and should always be in the 15-man squad.

Pakistan have a lot of good pacers at the moment and we need to have a good rotation policy to ensure that they remain fit.
 
Why is everyone silent on Hasnain?? He has been so good in this tournament
 
He's improved significantly. Average speed has increased, his control is better and he has been getting more yorkers right as well.
He still has a long way to go though, very much still a raw talent. Definitely doesn't have the consistency or skill set for test match cricket right now. Regular outings with the white ball team and a couple of seasons in the Quaid e Azam trophy will do him a world of good.

I've always had high hopes for this duo, Naseem and Husnain. have had a lot of nay sayers around telling us how mediocre they are, specially 6 odd months ago when Naseems test match outings didn't go well and Husnain was spraying it around in white ball cricket. But things are changing, they're improving slowly but steadily and already some of the detractors seem to have disappeared from these threads.
My hope for Husnain is to mature into this front line bowler who can tear away batting attacks with that natural short length and the bounce he gets with his height.
 
Hasnain's average pace has certainly improved and he looked threatening today. The reason people aren't here praising him is because everyone is still fixated on Naseems performances (which is totally understandable)
 
Looks like a lost schoolboy. Was the weak link in our pace attack again.
 
Told by PCB that he's not getting an NOC to play in the LPL as they want him to play domestic and for his country. But now not picked for any of the teams in the Pakistan Cup.
 
Saj said:
Told by PCB that he's not getting an NOC to play in the LPL as they want him to play domestic and for his country. But now not picked for any of the teams in the Pakistan Cup.
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Didn't get a gig in bigbash? He was very impressive there last year.
 
Saj said:
Told by PCB that he's not getting an NOC to play in the LPL as they want him to play domestic and for his country. But now not picked for any of the teams in the Pakistan Cup.
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He surely merited a place in one of the domestic teams
 
Saj said:
Told by PCB that he's not getting an NOC to play in the LPL as they want him to play domestic and for his country. But now not picked for any of the teams in the Pakistan Cup.
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Can't believe, PCB surely can do better
 
Saj said:
Told by PCB that he's not getting an NOC to play in the LPL as they want him to play domestic and for his country. But now not picked for any of the teams in the Pakistan Cup.
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Can you ask some one in PCB as to what could be the reason? Esp when PCB denied him NOC in LPL so tht he should participate in Pak cup..then why isnt he selectedin any team in Pak cup? Surely this deserves an answer from PCB….. will be good..if you could check with someone in PCB?
 
Seems to be the forgotten man at the moment.

Nowhere to be seen in any of the squads these days.
 
Saj said:
Seems to be the forgotten man at the moment.

Nowhere to be seen in any of the squads these days.
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Well as if by magic they've remembered he still exists and have now added him to the 22 probables.

What on earth is going on.
 
Hasnain sustained an ankle injury while playing in the Sri Lanka Premier League in August. He traveled to England from Sri Lanka and had an MRI. The scans revealed the fast bowler requires rehabilitation for his ankle, which is under process since 13 September in England.

PCB Media
 
This guy could’ve been playing in the WC and running through FTB infested batting line ups if he focused more on the longer formats .

Instead he decided to play some random t20 Sri Lankan premier league and get injured instead…

Sigh.

Our bowlers can’t prioritize. Especially the ones with potential
 
Suleiman said:
This guy could’ve been playing in the WC and running through FTB infested batting line ups if he focused more on the longer formats .

Instead he decided to play some random t20 Sri Lankan premier league and get injured instead…

Sigh.

Our bowlers can’t prioritize. Especially the ones with potential
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This is where the PCB needs to come down hard i.e. no NOC's and no PSL if you haven't played the entire 4 day domestic season.
 
CerebralPatriot said:
After he recovers from his injury, the PCB needs to ensure that his workload is properly managed and that he is given ample chances in all formats.

An outstanding talent who with the proper guidance can become a world beater
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I would prefer Mir Hamza over him. Hasnain is definitely better than Rauf though.
 
I think he still has plenty of cricket left in him and he can perform at international level too. With Haris leaking too many runs consistently, he can be a good replacement in white ball cricket in the long run.
 
Our last hope in fast bowling, Naseem recovers, Shaheen makes a full recovery, and Hasnain learns to bowl with discipline.

Only then Australia won’t stand a chance.

It’s a lot to ask in such a short time frame though, esp by pacers who couldn’t give a duck about tests…
 
Suleiman said:
Our last hope in fast bowling, Naseem recovers, Shaheen makes a full recovery, and Hasnain learns to bowl with discipline.

Only then Australia won’t stand a chance.

It’s a lot to ask in such a short time frame though, esp by pacers who couldn’t give a duck about tests…
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I don’t know if he can learn discipline.. Naseem came after him and has learned so much since then. Afridi too. Hasnain seems more of a Sami breed. Great in short bursts but will always be an unfulfilled talent in the long run. BUT we still have Ihsanullah. And Dahani hasn’t had as much time as Hasnain. And Zaman.
 
CerebralPatriot said:
After he recovers from his injury, the PCB needs to ensure that his workload is properly managed and that he is given ample chances in all formats.

An outstanding talent who with the proper guidance can become a world beater
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LOL recovering from injury AND workload management under the PCB is a dream not yet realized.
 
Just another typical poor bowler who only gets selected because he clicked 150 and selectors go gaga and pAcE iS paCCEE yaarRRRR
 
Hasnain is a briilliant new ball bowler, who can swing it at pace. He often loses it in the death. He should always bowl out before death overs, and in T20s he should bowl two overs in PP and two overs in middle.

Not sure if he can be fit for the tests, but him, Rauf and Shaheen for tests in Australia would be brilliant
 
The hype for Hasnain is unnecessary. He is barely an international class bowler, with no notable performances to speak of yet. Suddenly, he is now a Test level bowler? :ROFLMAO:
 
His fitness is only a concern otherwise he is a gun bowler of white ball as compare to haris rauf.
 
Hope he makes a full recovery and improves his consistency. He’s going and has time to improve as the raw materials to he successful are there.
 
We might see him in the Pakistan test squad for the Australia tour but he is currently recovering from his injury as mentioned by Wahab Riaz yesterday after he announced the test squad for the Australia tour. It is good to give him proper time to make a full recovery before he plays competitive cricket.
 
Hasnain seen in action in the PCB T20 camp - he is training in the NCA but also came over to the camp

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Good to see him running in the nets and bowling. Hope he gets fit and back to his 100 percent.
 
I hope he makes a full recovery and finds his way into the national team. The Pakistani team management have pigeonholed this talented kid into another Sami and discarded him without giving him a fair shake.
 
Mohammad Hasnain is working at a training camp in the UK

Through his tireless efforts, he achieved remarkable results. Notably, his maximum ball speed increased by 4mph, and his average ball speed rose by 2.5mph, compared to the session on July 27th. What's even more impressive is that he accomplished this by enhancing his efficiency, allowing him to bowl faster with reduced effort.

 
6 years since he got into the cricket system in Pakistan and he is still not ready for red ball cricket for Pakistan.

Perfect example of how PCB has destroyed our cricket by giving the players a free for all in T20 Cricket in various leagues.

PCB like BCCI should have developed the balls to keep the players exclusive to Pakistan Cricket. If the players threaten to quit, retire and become T20 free lancers then let them to that, ban their T20 Nocs for the next 5 years.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Mohammad Hasnain is working at a training camp in the UK

Through his tireless efforts, he achieved remarkable results. Notably, his maximum ball speed increased by 4mph, and his average ball speed rose by 2.5mph, compared to the session on July 27th. What's even more impressive is that he accomplished this by enhancing his efficiency, allowing him to bowl faster with reduced effort.

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Good luck to him. The lad is still going strong despite getting mistreated by PCB.

I hope the best for him.
 
Hasnain had better potential compared to Haris Rauf but luck wasn't on his side. If he had been given the same opportunities as Haris he could have become a match winner for Pakistan
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Hasnain had better potential compared to Haris Rauf but luck wasn't on his side. If he had been given the same opportunities as Haris he could have become a match winner for Pakistan
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He's been given plenty of opportunities and hasn't done anything with them because he himself has never improved upon his line, length and how to attack batsmen weaknesses. There's a reason why Rauf is highly sought throughout the leagues in the world for his services and Hasnain can only make leagues like BPL/LPL etc.

His run up and bowling action seems like he is bowling slower than the delivered speeds and never hurries up batsmen like one thinks he should with his pace.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Good luck to him. The lad is still going strong despite getting mistreated by PCB.

I hope the best for him.
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How did he get mistreated by the PCB? He's been given Nocs for every T20 league. The PCB helped him with fixing his action.
 
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