King_Kohli
First Class Captain
- Joined
- Sep 18, 2019
- Runs
- 5,754
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Do you do your research or watch domestic cricket before making posts like these? This guy has worked harder than anyone. These are his stats in the Quaid e Azam trophy in his last 5 bowling outings:
5/76
5/32
3/30
4/48
4/66
After a losing streak, CP won 3 matches on the trot once he made a comeback from injury, with him as captain. He also performed a couple times with the bat, including innings of 59*(53), 26*(34), and 50*(33).
“It seems he hasn’t worked hard or concentrated on his injury rehab” — to say this is unfair to the work he has been putting in.
Do you do your research or watch domestic cricket before making posts like these? This guy has worked harder than anyone. These are his stats in the Quaid e Azam trophy in his last 5 bowling outings:
5/76
5/32
3/30
4/48
4/66
After a losing streak, CP won 3 matches on the trot once he made a comeback from injury, with him as captain. He also performed a couple times with the bat, including innings of 59*(53), 26*(34), and 50*(33).
“It seems he hasn’t worked hard or concentrated on his injury rehab” — to say this is unfair to the work he has been putting in.
Ever since the guy got married, it seems he hasnt worked hard or concentrated on his injury rehab.
He seems to have laid down after earning money and have been married. More like having settled down.
Do you think its the end of his career? I always believed he was a great limited overs bowler.
But the guy will probably appear in a one of series soon, not perform and it would be over.
Whats your say?
My goodness the OP is something Rameez Raja would say if asked about Hassan Ali on commentary.
Wow! This is beyond hilarious. Man, before you wrote, "it seems he hasn't worked hard or concentrated on his injury rehab." You should have at least done a bit of research. He is among the top 5 wicket-takers in QeA and is only the 2nd fast bowler in that list, all the while playing less matches than the rest. His avg is also the best among them and he is bowling 20+ overs per innings. His fitness is back and so is his pace. He will be making a comeback against South Africa InshAllah.
Dont know why you lot have gone crazy over the statement.
The guy took extra long time to heal his injury. Yes he migth be taking wickets in domestic which i dont follow anymore.
But than again we have Waqas Maqsood also in the top charts i guess.
There is a difference between bowling in domestic and in international.
In the world cup, Hasan Ali was attacked all over the ground.
To me it seems, he will just be another Umar Gul who won't be as effective in international cricket as before
I hope he would. Especially in the limited overs.
But we saw what he did in the world cup, the guy wasn't that bowler anymore that was at the CT.
Domestic wise migth be performing well, but his performance at international is what would matter and on what he would be assessed
It’s simple.
If Hasan wants to succeed again in the international level, he either needs to increase his average speed by 10mph or be able to consistently bring back the ball.
Other than that, he’s a liability nowadays. I remember him being so promising but injuries just destroyed that.
30 overs in an innings
Plenty of wickets in the last few matches
He's happy and confident and says he's ready to come back to international cricket.
How is he a liability when he is taking fifers and winning matches with the ball lol
I certainly would welcome Hasan Ali batting at Number 9 in Tests instead of either Mohammad Abbas or Naseem Shah.
I think that Hasan Ali has limitations as a bowler because of his short height, and that his place in Test cricket depends more on his batting than his bowling.
He needed to get his bowling back up to this level in order to be a viable Test third seamer in Asia and fourth seamer in SENA.
But he only gets across the line for me if he can consistently average up from 15.50 to over 20 with enough the bat in Test cricket, and up MASSIVELY from 16.30 to over 30 in First Class cricket. He is never going to be a better bowler than Abbas or Naseem, so his selection requires him to be a clearly superior batsman to them.
You are incrediby simplistic in your assessments.
Hasan is good enough as a bowler. You have not seen him at his best yet as he is just entering his peak.
He can’t do that in international cricket.
There hasn’t been a more dominating performance in Pakistan’s domestic scene than Amir in late 2015.
And even then, he struggled tremendously adjusting to the international scene.
Amir performed with the gray's ball on green wickets in the old system that had over 15 teams; hence a spread out talent pool.
Every other medium pacer had sub 20 averages that season because of these factors.
On the other hand, Hasan has done it with the Kookaburra in a significantly more competitive tournament on sporting pitches; not mambas.
Watching domestic cricket and actually doing some research would really help you in making assessments.
Nope, unless you miscomprehended any post.Thanks for the lesson.
Aren’t you the same guy that said Shan Masood had turned a new page?
When Hasan does return, which he will for the sake of the team, and performs, tag me. I’ll be there.
Nope, unless you miscomprehended any post.
I admire Shan for his work ethic and for how good a student he is of the game.
I wanted him to lead the test side for a couple of years so that he could infuse a culture of self reflection, improvement and working with modern coaches.
For that I was willing to contend with a lower output in terms of runs from him because I am aware that he is limited in terms of natural ability.
Amir performed with the gray's ball on green wickets in the old system that had over 15 teams; hence a spread out talent pool.
Every other medium pacer had sub 20 averages that season because of these factors.
On the other hand, Hasan has done it with the Kookaburra in a significantly more competitive tournament on sporting pitches; not mambas.
Watching domestic cricket and actually doing some research would really help you in making assessments.
I distinctively remember that ENG series and your posts about his knock.
Just like I can admit I was wrong about Hasan Ali and Shadab Khan, you can do the same about Shan.
Acting like an expert while being blinded by your love of Pakistan is setting yourself up for disappointment.
I know because I’ve been there.
I distinctively remember that ENG series and your posts about his knock.
Just like I can admit I was wrong about Hasan Ali and Shadab Khan, you can do the same about Shan.
Acting like an expert while being blinded by your love of Pakistan is setting yourself up for disappointment.
I know because I’ve been there.
I dont understand why psoters go around telling others watch domestic cricket to put down opinions around here.
Seen enough of domestic cricket, i have seen the top players be selected on merit and i have seen them be exposed at international level.
Gray balls, kookabura balls whatever. These are just excuses.
Waqas Maqsood is taking wickets and took wicekts before, yet when he came in t20 he was a joke.
Same Hasan Ali got spanked in the world cup
I dont understand why psoters go around telling others watch domestic cricket to put down opinions around here.
Seen enough of domestic cricket, i have seen the top players be selected on merit and i have seen them be exposed at international level.
Gray balls, kookabura balls whatever. These are just excuses.
Waqas Maqsood is taking wickets and took wicekts before, yet when he came in t20 he was a joke.
Same Hasan Ali got spanked in the world cup
I’m not sure you understand cricket too well. Waqas Maqsood was KK’s best bowler in the play offs and the final. He delivered for them whereas Amir did not (or at least up to the expectations there are off him).

The fact that you are bringing up Hasan's form in the 2018-19 season to prove your point, when he was unfit, and just dragging till the world cup really tells us the about the validity and depth of knowledge you have on cricketing affairs.
yes, you are very knoweledgable, the fact that he took wickets in domestic proves that he is ready for international.
Might aswell select Bilal Asif as our lead spinner
yes and based on that you are an expert and the rest here dont know anything
Waqas Maqsood for team pakistan
So taking first class wickets on barren pitches and bowling a truckload of overs is not enough to prove his form and fitness?
What should he do then? Come to your garden and dismiss the Misbah wax statues you have there?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hassan Ali has taken 24 wickets at an average of 15.58 in his last 4 matches in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QeA20?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QeA20</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1341778058676727808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 23, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Bit of a poor response. Where did I say Waqas Maqsood for Pakistan? Is this another one of your examples of being ill-informed and making up theories from thin air?
With all due respect, given the kind of hollow arguments you give, I dont think there really can be a strong discussion with you.i would had replied to your post in a decent matter, but seeing what you are ready to resort to, just because I only critisized or gave my opinion on a player you like, i think i should refrain from indulging in any discussion with you
30 overs in an innings
Plenty of wickets in the last few matches
He's happy and confident and says he's ready to come back to international cricket.
With all due respect, given the kind of hollow arguments you give, I dont think there really can be a strong discussion with you.
All you resort to do is bring up his social media profile, or his extroverted personality to make your point.
Also, this constant parroting about domestic performances not being a valid criteria for selection is totally absurd.
Domestic matches are being broadcast live now for God's sake, so it isnt like anyone can get away with cheap performances in weak contexts.
Anybody who has seen him bowl live in this tournament on a ball to ball basis will tell you about the kind of pace he is generating, the relentlessness of execution of his plans and lengths, the creative mindset that he has shown to pick wickets on flat pitches, as well as the fitness of bowling long spells at good pace.
And no, Hasan Ali is not my favourite. In fact, I dont play or believe in a favourite player.
He is bowling well, and is better than everyone right now, so he deserves the credit and should be brought into the team, simple as.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hassan Ali has taken 24 wickets at an average of 15.58 in his last 4 matches in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QeA20?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QeA20</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1341778058676727808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 23, 2020</a></blockquote>
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What's next for him, does he warrant a place in the T20 team
Doesnt have Express Pace, ability to bowl up front or at the death, gets targeted in the middle overs and has become a No Ball machine
With Dhani, Mohd Wasim Jr in the bench, he should be rested and told to regain his form though Hasan Ali will not face problems against Bangladeshi batsmen. Bowling to Warner, Marsh, Maxwell, Stoinas, Wade is a different challenge altogether.
Dhani and Wasim Jnr dont bowl with the new ball like Hasan Ali
With the next WC being in Australia, the team is need of a new ball Bowler. Akif Javed is my Dark horse for this role
Dhani did bowl with new ball for Multan Sultans