Virat Kohli becomes the fastest to 20,000 international runs

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Virat Kohli has become the fastest to 20,000 international runs by reaching the milestone in his 417th innings. The record was previously jointly held by Sachin Tendulkar and Brian Lara, who reached the landmark in their 453rd innings <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/INDvWI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#INDvWI</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1144204091310182400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Is Virat Kohli on his way to becoming the best ever?

 

[Hitman]

The King. On his way of surpassing both Sachin and Lara.

 

[Pakhs]

Thanks for the information - the question has been answered many times.

 

[Pakhs]

The King. On his way of surpassing both Sachin and Lara.

He was always better than Sachin from word go

 

[Hitman]

He was always better than Sachin from word go

Don’t know about Sachin, but he is certainly better than Lara for sure.

 

[Pakhs]

Don’t know about Sachin, but he is certainly better than Lara for sure.

He is better than Sachin.. Lara was equally dangerous and somewhat consistent where Sachin was just consistent but no so dangerous. Sachin would score a 100 and the opposition would still win.

 

[Hitman]

He is better than Sachin.. Lara was equally dangerous and somewhat consistent where Sachin was just consistent but no so dangerous. Sachin would score a 100 and the opposition would still win.

Errr, out of his 100 centuries, the opposition won just 25 times. That’s 25%. Try harder next time.

 

[MP2011]

He is better than Sachin.. Lara was equally dangerous and somewhat consistent where Sachin was just consistent but no so dangerous. Sachin would score a 100 and the opposition would still win.

Try harder next time.

 

[MP2011]

He was always better than Sachin from word go

Lol.

 

[Pakhs]

Errr, out of his 100 centuries, the opposition won just 25 times. That’s 25%. Try harder next time.

25% is a lot lol thanks for proving my point. How many years out of his 20+ years playing India was No.1 team? How many WCs did he win? How many runs did he score in the WC finals he played? He was a consistent run scorer that's all. Kholi is better for sure.

 

[watchman99]

Errr, out of his 100 centuries, the opposition won just 25 times. That’s 25%. Try harder next time.

Yea, that Sachin 100 myth is quite widespread. No idea how its grown so much.

 

[Hitman]

Errr, out of his 100 centuries, the opposition won just 25 times. That’s 25%. Try harder next time.

And this is when India had the worst bowling attack in the world back in the 90’s. on the other other hand, Lara held the world record of scoring most Test runs and Test centuries in loses back when he retired.

 

[anikrc1]

25% is a lot lol thanks for proving my point. How many years out of his 20+ years playing India was No.1 team? How many WCs did he win? How many runs did he score in the WC finals he played? He was a consistent run scorer that's all. Kholi is better for sure.

How many world cups did lara win? How many finals ? How many years was wi rank 1 ?

 

[MP2011]

25% is a lot lol thanks for proving my point. How many years out of his 20+ years playing India was No.1 team? How many WCs did he win? How many runs did he score in the WC finals he played? He was a consistent run scorer that's all. Kholi is better for sure.

At least pronounce Kohli properly.

And big LOL at rest of whatever that was.

 

[MP2011]

How many world cups did lara win? How many finals ? How many years was wi rank 1 ?

Don't let facts get in the way of his rant.

 

[Hitman]

25% is a lot lol thanks for proving my point. How many years out of his 20+ years playing India was No.1 team? How many WCs did he win? How many runs did he score in the WC finals he played? He was a consistent run scorer that's all. Kholi is better for sure.

So 25% of his centuries coming in loses is a lot? Which world do you live in?

India was the #1 Test team for a good 2 years during his career. How many years during Lara’s career was WI the #1 Test team? Sachin won 1 WC, how many did Lara win?

 

[Mkumar825]

Another thread turning in to Sachin vs virat

 

[Mueez]

Virat is a beast.

He will surpass Sachin when he wins another WC.

 

[Hitman]

Virat is a beast.

He will surpass Sachin when he wins another WC.

I have no doubt in my mind.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

2 new balls, better bats, better pitches, etcc..

 

[aukhan]

Far better than Sachin in every way. He is a big player who doesn't play for his records. Sachin fans are delusional and jealous over his accomplishments. Virat is the greatest ever.

 

[Pakhs]

So 25% of his centuries coming in loses is a lot? Which world do you live in?

India was the #1 Test team for a good 2 years during his career. How many years during Lara’s career was WI the #1 Test team? Sachin won 1 WC, how many did Lara win?

so two years out of 25 years? How much did he score in WC finals? only 53 outs of his 100 centuries came in a win but even 25% is a lot I see you tired to hide the facts. Lara was also not as good as kholi.

 

[Pakhs]

At least pronounce Kohli properly.

And big LOL at rest of whatever that was.

Don't let facts get in the way of his rant.

So 25% of his centuries coming in loses is a lot? Which world do you live in?

India was the #1 Test team for a good 2 years during his career. How many years during Lara’s career was WI the #1 Test team? Sachin won 1 WC, how many did Lara win?

Really some Indians need to stop hero/God worshiping blindly. Only 53 out of his 100 centuries came in wins which is low by most people standards. He was a consistent run scorer but kohli is better.

 

[Hitman]

so two years out of 25 years? How much did he score in WC finals? only 53 outs of his 100 centuries came in a win but even 25% is a lot I see you tired to hide the facts. Lara was also not as good as kholi.

Could it be that India was a miserable team in the 90’s, and then the Aussie team from 99’ till 07 was the greatest team in history? How many years was Pakistan the #1 team during Imran Khan’s career?

How many finals did Lara help his team reach in World Cups in his 5 attempts? 25% of his 100 centuries coming in loses would be a lot for you because of your bias, but not for others specially keeping in mind he played the first 11 years of his careers alongside horrendous bowlers.

 

[MP2011]

Really some Indians need to stop hero/God worshiping blindly. Only 53 out of his 100 centuries came in wins which is low by most people standards. He was a consistent run scorer but kohli is better.

May be you need to know cricket better because your understanding of cricket seems pedestrian.

 

[JellyBro]

One of the best in the game.
However, it will be unfair to compare his stats with the likes of Lara and Sachin. Those guys faced much fiercer bowlers and the game wasn't rigged to favor the batsmen as it is now.
Even so, if Kohli had played in that era i'm sure he would have made 20k runs by now but maybe not in 417 innings.

 

[Hitman]

Really some Indians need to stop hero/God worshiping blindly. Only 53 out of his 100 centuries came in wins which is low by most people standards. He was a consistent run scorer but kohli is better.

Rather you should stop making a fool out of yourself. You initially claimed that he would score centuries and the opposition would still win. Now when facts are presented that the opposition won just 25% times when he scored centuries, you remove draws, ties, and no results, and speak only of number of wins. One needs to have some shame taking such a blatant u-turn in seconds.

 

[Pakhs]

Could it be that India was a miserable team in the 90’s, and then the Aussie team from 99’ till 07 was the greatest team in history? How many years was Pakistan the #1 team during Imran Khan’s career?

How many finals did Lara help his team reach in World Cups in his 5 attempts? 25% of his 100 centuries coming in loses would be a lot for you because of your bias, but not for others specially keeping in mind he played the first 11 years of his careers alongside horrendous bowlers.

Imran captained Pakistan to WC and scored a matching winning 70 promoting himself to no 3. He also contributed with bat and bowl. What exactly is Sachin record in finals? he was great but he was not God that you start worshiping him and deny the fact Kohli is better.

 

[Hitman]

Imran captained Pakistan to WC and scored a matching winning 70 promoting himself to no 3. He also contributed with bat and bowl. What exactly is Sachin record in finals? he was great but he was not God that you start worshiping him and deny the fact Kohli is better.

So the criteria of taking your team to the #1 position has now gone out of the window? What is your next u-turn going to be?

 

[MP2011]

So the criteria of taking your team to the #1 position has now gone out of the window? What is your next u-turn going to be?

He is Mr Know All. Let him enjoy his imaginary world.

 

[Pakhs]

So the criteria of taking your team to the #1 position has now gone out of the window? What is your next u-turn going to be?

He is Mr Know All. Let him enjoy his imaginary world.

The criteria if you are GOD you must be able to score runs in atleast one WC final his played in few failed in all. Although kholi has failed in one final I am pretty sure he wont fail again.

I am not going to argue with you guys on this point anymore. Can really argue with hero worshipers.

 

[Hitman]

The criteria if you are GOD you must be able to score runs in atleast one WC final his played in few failed in all. Although kholi has failed in one final I am pretty sure he wont fail again.

I am not going to argue with you guys on this point anymore. Can really argue with hero worshipers.

It’s you who has been taking u-turns right, left and centre, not us.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Kohli, The King of Game

 

[nam]

Beast! However personal records don't mean much. It will all be useless IMO if 20,000 runs experience does not help India win the world cup.

 

[MisbahTheGreat]

Kohli has surpassed Sachin and honestly it's no longer close.

 

[Hasan123]

What a player and a brilliant captain as well.

 

[CricketIsAwesome]

Beast! However personal records don't mean much. It will all be useless IMO if 20,000 runs experience does not help India win the world cup.

To someone with little respect for the game, it may not mean much or anything at all but to those who love and understand the game, this is a phenomenal achievement. Very large shoes to step into for any youngsters looking to emulate King Kohli.

 

[spiderreddy]

3rd Indian to do so. 12th overall

 

[Revolution]

Congratulations KING.

 

[The Viper]

 

[satheesh]

Kohli might end up as one of the few elite batsmen of all time. But these numbers don't prove any thing.
Viv Richards scored only some 15000 international runs and his tally has been surpassed by many.But still Richards is one among the top 5 batsmen in every person's book.

 

[nam]

To someone with little respect for the game, it may not mean much or anything at all but to those who love and understand the game, this is a phenomenal achievement. Very large shoes to step into for any youngsters looking to emulate King Kohli.

From your comments you come across someone who likes judging people without knowing much.

Getting back to topic of discussion.. Why would you emulate anyone? Everyone is his/her unique self. His record maybe gigantic but it is a personal record and maybe it will help him sleep better at night. I can assure you if you ask Kohli he will say take away all the runs I have scored and give me only those which helped my team win games. So I stick to my original comment, personal milestone don't mean much only those which helps the team win count.

 

[Kraetoz]

So 25% of his centuries coming in loses is a lot? Which world do you live in?

India was the #1 Test team for a good 2 years during his career. How many years during Lara’s career was WI the #1 Test team? Sachin won 1 WC, how many did Lara win?

Pakistani's would never rate Tendulkar as a match winning player. Here is why

Sachin scored 5 odi centuries against Pakistan with 4/5 in losing cause. Thats just 20% centuries in winnung cause.
Lara scored 5 odi centuries against Pakistan with all of them in winning cause.

 

[Hitman]

Pakistani's would never rate Tendulkar as a match winning player. Here is why

Sachin scored 5 odi centuries against Pakistan with 4/5 in losing cause. Thats just 20% centuries in winnung cause.
Lara scored 5 odi centuries against Pakistan with all of them in winning cause.

And that matters to the rest of the world?

 

[Kraetoz]

And that matters to the rest of the world?

You are on a Pakistani forum. Others might rate him as a match winner not Pakistani's as i said earlier they have seen his useless centuries 4 times out of 5 in odis

 

[BaankeJi]

Kohli might end up as one of the few elite batsmen of all time. But these numbers don't prove any thing.
Viv Richards scored only some 15000 international runs and his tally has been surpassed by many.But still Richards is one among the top 5 batsmen in every person's book.

Total number of runs are not as important as runs per game.

SR is important as well but is outside the subject of this thread.

 

[Hitman]

You are on a Pakistani forum. Others might rate him as a match winner not Pakistani's as i said earlier they have seen his useless centuries 4 times out of 5 in odis

Being on a Pakistani forum does not mean I have to care about everything that Pakistani fans think or believe. You guys can believe anything you want, not like the rest of the world cares. Afterall, you guys also believe that Imran Khan is the greatest all rounder ever, not like the rest of the world agrees.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

Sachin even didn't had 1% of TALUNT Ahmad Shahzad has - Abdul Razzaq

 

[Pakhs]

It’s you who has been taking u-turns right, left and centre, not us.

You are overly sensitive about Sachin and just dont want to accept that he had flaws and Kohli is going to become a better player. Sachin was good no doubt a true great tbh but he didnt have the same affect in team winning as kohli seem to have specially if he goes on to win this WC which seems likely.

 

[CricketIsAwesome]

From your comments you come across someone who likes judging people without knowing much.

Getting back to topic of discussion.. Why would you emulate anyone? Everyone is his/her unique self. His record maybe gigantic but it is a personal record and maybe it will help him sleep better at night. I can assure you if you ask Kohli he will say take away all the runs I have scored and give me only those which helped my team win games. So I stick to my original comment, personal milestone don't mean much only those which helps the team win count.

Nope, judged no one including your goodself but looks like my comment hit a nerve with you.

Since ages, peple and especially youngsters have looked upto super performers as role moels and have aspired to be in their league regardless of whether those performers were playing sports or waging wars or just leading a social change.

In case you don't know, VK was and I belive still is a Sachin's fan and has made no bones about the fact that he wanted to emulate Tendulkar and so did MSD and a million other fans over the world. That is the influence that super-performers have on youngster's around the globe regardless of the game.
Ask a soccer playing kid in SOuth America who he wants to be and you will very lilkey hear the name of a soccer great from that region. That is how these folks inspire others.

Cricket is a team game and you need them all performing to their full stregth to be consistently winnning games. In team sports, you usually end up with individual records that rise above and beyond the norm, whether it is the Highest# of goals scored or the farthest baseball hit. At this point VK has nothing else to prove . His individual records and comittment towards the game does all teh talking. Whetehr he wins the WC or any other tournaments is not upto him alone but on his entire team and winning team trophies is not necessarily the hallmark of a great player in a team sport.

BTW you or no one can speak for VK or for any other player so you don't know how VK would respond. He could very well say that "I only focuss on giving my 200% to the game and whether we win or loose depends on how we perform as a team"

 

[barah_admi]

Terrific achievement for the great batsman.

 

[Mean&Green]

Errr, out of his 100 centuries, the opposition won just 25 times. That’s 25%. Try harder next time.

***** that’s still a pretty ****** percentage if you score 25 tons and your team loses that’s a lot

 

[Mean&Green]

Being on a Pakistani forum does not mean I have to care about everything that Pakistani fans think or believe. You guys can believe anything you want, not like the rest of the world cares. Afterall, you guys also believe that Imran Khan is the greatest all rounder ever, not like the rest of the world agrees.

Almost everyone in the world agrees and even most Indian pundits and players now you are just being salty

 

[DeadBall]

And that matters to the rest of the world?

He did say Pakistanis, you even bolded the part.

 

[Mean&Green]

And that matters to the rest of the world?

When sachin played India and Pakistan were the most important matches Indians only cared about that so yes it matters a lot now don’t pretend Indians don’t care about India vs Pakistan

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Don't you guys get bored lol.

Constantly bickering over the same thing.

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What an amazing achievement by Kohli.

 

[big_gamer007]

As a batsmen he might overtake Sachin in LOI's. But the impact Sachin has had won't be overtaken by anyone unless our economy and country goes in a mess again.

 

[spiderreddy]

Pakistani's would never rate Tendulkar as a match winning player.

.

That tells u more about Pakistanis understanding of cricket

Sachin : 664 Mat - 76 M.O.M - 20 M.O.S
Lara : 430 Mat - 42 M.O.M - 8 M.O.S

But but Sachin is not a match winner because we are Pak fans

 

[satheesh]

w.r.t Sachin - Kohli, Kohli has still a long way to go to over take Sachin as a complete batsman, I feel.
In tests it is a no contest as of now . Might be Kohli may over take him in ODIs by the end of his career...perhaps may not. But in tests which is the ultimate , I highly doubt because it will take some performance from him moving forward to outweigh Sachin.

 

[BaankeJi]

Pressure under which Sachin played is unparalleled. He knew all of India relied on him.
Kohli is a tremendous batsman but pressure is not of same level. Indian fans know that someone else can take care of the situation.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Kohli has a long way to go before he equals Sachin in tests, and some way to go in ODIs.

 

[spiderreddy]

Just looked at his contemporaries.
Kohli has just surpassed AB's 20014.

Root, Williamson have 13k runs while Smith has 10k

 

[ikky47]

Just looked at his contemporaries.
Kohli has just surpassed AB's 20014.

Root, Williamson have 13k runs while Smith has 10k

I think Kohli is the only person to average over 50 in all 3 formats combined with 10,000+ international runs. Kohli is just on a whole new level ahead of the rest!

 

[nam]

Nope, judged no one including your goodself but looks like my comment hit a nerve with you.

Since ages, peple and especially youngsters have looked upto super performers as role moels and have aspired to be in their league regardless of whether those performers were playing sports or waging wars or just leading a social change.

In case you don't know, VK was and I belive still is a Sachin's fan and has made no bones about the fact that he wanted to emulate Tendulkar and so did MSD and a million other fans over the world. That is the influence that super-performers have on youngster's around the globe regardless of the game.
Ask a soccer playing kid in SOuth America who he wants to be and you will very lilkey hear the name of a soccer great from that region. That is how these folks inspire others.

Cricket is a team game and you need them all performing to their full stregth to be consistently winnning games. In team sports, you usually end up with individual records that rise above and beyond the norm, whether it is the Highest# of goals scored or the farthest baseball hit. At this point VK has nothing else to prove . His individual records and comittment towards the game does all teh talking. Whetehr he wins the WC or any other tournaments is not upto him alone but on his entire team and winning team trophies is not necessarily the hallmark of a great player in a team sport.

BTW you or no one can speak for VK or for any other player so you don't know how VK would respond. He could very well say that "I only focuss on giving my 200% to the game and whether we win or loose depends on how we perform as a team"

I never undermined VK records or VK as a player. I would love to have 11 players like him in the team if I could. I agree with your statement underlined above but disagree with the words in Bold. Let's just agree to disagree here. The great soccer player from South America you talked about and the great Sachin, there is a reason why people talk about them not performing for your team in biggest stage because it matters, it matters a lot.