"Virat Kohli can improve his technique by looking at Babar Azam" : Aaqib Javed

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Pakistan's obsession with Kohli...smh

On a practical level: sure Kohli can learn a thing or two from Babar, as he can from Gayle. But these kinds of statements show complete lack of emotional intelligence when the emphasis should be the other way around.

On an emotional level: I have to say like them for the entertainment value they bring and how much they needle rivals. Why not.

Next: I am waiting for him to say that Ashwin can learn bowling technique from Usman Qadir...because why not?

 

[King_Kohli]

A man who has made 70 international tons can learn from himself, no need to follow others.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Kohli is already an ATG,

Sometimes after hearing these kind of statements from our ex cricketers i really feel ashamed,

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Babar is on his way to ATG, and has loads of potential. But he is not there yet.
Kohli, if he retires today is ATG at least in White ball Cricket.
Tests, if Kohli crosses 10k runs, which I believe he will, he will be overall all format ATG.

That is the difference between Babar and Kohli right now.
So, Babar has lot to learn not only from Kohli, but even Younis and Misbah, on how to play long innings in Test matches.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Babar is 26 years old. ATG batsmen by this age were scoring :
150+ scores in Test Matches.
Series/Match defining centuries outside their home countries.
Changing Test Match results with their batting.
Winning man of series in World Tournaments.

Babar, is still far behind, in all those criteria's. Really do not get the hype.

 

[Sunzi]

People keep debating (well getting sucked in and trolled really) by these threads - there's like 5 of them on rotation ATM. On multiple levels there is an evident and statistical difference between the 2.

Babar is a good bat, one of the best for Pakistan in recent times and one of the best in the world currently. I don't understand why thrusting him into a comparison against an ATG for validation is necessary.

Just enjoy both players and hope that our player can reach anywhere near Kohli's level; if he doesn't it isn't a slight against him and he will still go down as a brilliant bat.

There... I've done it, I've also taken the bait and posted here ha ha

 

[marlonbrowndo]

There is nothing that Kohli can learn from Babar in any format

 

[Cricketfan2016]

You ll never see kohli playing this type of innings in T20I

 

[Mamoon]

Beautiful Test match knock today. I hope Kohli was watching the impeccable technique on show and taking notes.

 

[Hasan123]

Some of our fans and ex players will never learn.

 

[Thanos]

After watching today's inning of Babar, It's humble request to all ex-cricketers of Pakistan. Please don't give this kinda suggestions.
We are afraid of the result if Kohli takes this seriously.

 

[Mamoon]

Babar is in the same class as the support cast of Indian batting – KL Rahul, Iyer, Agarwal etc.

If they played for Pakistan instead of Babar, they would have similar records and rankings.

Babar is a very fine player, but he stands out so much because Pakistan is a joke of a cricket team that does not have the capability to produce elite batsmen, so someone like Babar stands out more than he would in a team with proper batting stars.

Pakistani fans delude themselves into thinking that he is as good as as Kohli which is laughable. He is not even as good as Rohit.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Babar is in the same class as the support cast of Indian batting – KL Rahul, Iyer, Agarwal etc.

If they played for Pakistan instead of Babar, they would have similar records and rankings.

Babar is a very fine player, but he stands out so much because Pakistan is a joke of a cricket team that does not have the capability to produce elite batsmen, so someone like Babar stands out more than he would in a team with proper batting stars.

Pakistani fans delude themselves into thinking that he is as good as as Kohli which is laughable. He is not even as good as Rohit.

Hes better than all of them in test cricket. Very sound fundamentals . Probably true in LOIs because he cant accelerate at will like we have seen Rahul and Iyer do. But that's ok since Babar is a no.3 and Pakistan's anchor. People just expect just a bit too much from him.

 

[Rana]

So people are objecting to this on the day Babar top scores for his side? What exactly was wrong with his technique today?

 

[Technics 1210]

Kohli might have 70 odd centuries but what's he got to show for it?

His blistering career lacks competition wins, no WC, no WT20, no CT, and no IPL title because of a single Kohli innings.

So much so, when India won the series vs Australia, Kohli wasn't even playing in the final 3 tests.

Of course not to mention how the world's best was decived in 2 consecutive balls in an ICC final.

It's not about how many runs are scored, it's when they are scored that matters.

 

[dildilpak]

So people are objecting to this on the day Babar top scores for his side? What exactly was wrong with his technique today?

Just doesnt have the second gear to counterattack. He slowed down massively & put everybody under pressure. Even wasted free hits, which is like criminal in a T20 innings.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Kohli might have 70 odd centuries but what's he got to show for it?

His blistering career lacks competition wins, no WC, no WT20, no CT, and no IPL title because of a single Kohli innings.

So much so, when India won the series vs Australia, Kohli wasn't even playing in the final 3 tests.

Of course not to mention how the world's best was decived in 2 consecutive balls in an ICC final.

It's not about how many runs are scored, it's when they are scored that matters.

Good knock in the 2011 World Cup final coming in in a pressure situation and top scored in the 2013 CT final with a high strike rate. Man of the tournament in 2 world T20s. Will have the most man of the match awards by the time he retires.

 

[Mamoon]

Hes better than all of them in test cricket. Very sound fundamentals . Probably true in LOIs because he cant accelerate at will like we have seen Rahul and Iyer do. But that's ok since Babar is a no.3 and Pakistan's anchor. People just expect just a bit too much from him.

Agarwal scored 200s and 150s against the same South African bowlers against which Babar appeared to be clueless.

The way he kept getting out to Maharaj’s arm balls on Pakistani pitches indicates a major flaw in his fundamentals.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Agarwal scored 200s and 150s against the same South African bowlers against which Babar appeared to be clueless.

The way he kept getting out to Maharaj’s arm balls on Pakistani pitches indicates a major flaw in his fundamentals.

Just like Kohli got out to Moeen Ali's balls?

 

[topspin]

Good knock in the 2011 World Cup final coming in in a pressure situation and top scored in the 2013 CT final with a high strike rate. Man of the tournament in 2 world T20s. Will have the most man of the match awards by the time he retires.

Was going to say the same.

Seriously dumb post [MENTION=149166]Technics 1210[/MENTION]

 

[Technics 1210]

2011 Kohli was still developing player.

Claiming Kohli will have most MOM awards is desperate and wishful thinking.

Get over it, a Pakistani ousted an Indian for number 1 ODI spot.

Move on, its the nature of sports.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

2011 Kohli was still developing player.

Claiming Kohli will have most MOM awards is desperate and wishful thinking.

Get over it, a Pakistani ousted an Indian for number 1 ODI spot.

Move on, its the nature of sports.

One has to be extremely delusional to think that Babar was or will ever be as good as Kohli in any format

 

[Local.Dada]

Good to see everyone is enlightened today.

A trashing for SA C next game and things will be business as usual.

 

[Technics 1210]

2019 WC SF. It was Kohli's moment to wrap it up. But no, even after 2 days, he failed.

 

[Technics 1210]

2011 WC final was all Ghambir and Donhi.

The gall of some Indian fans.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

2011 WC final was all Ghambir and Donhi.

The gall of some Indian fans.

If you had any understanding you would realize that the Kohli, Gambhir partnership was probably at the most crucial stage of the game

 

[Mamoon]

Just like Kohli got out to Moeen Ali's balls?

Won’t mind Babar getting out to a poor spinner ever now and then after averaging 50+ and scoring 27 hundreds and 7 double hundreds.

In the last 50 years of Test cricket, only Lara and Sangakkara have scored more 200s than Kohli, and he still has 4-5 years of Test cricket left.

 

[Technics 1210]

Thought so. Little noise from delusional Indian fans in the face of reality.

Come back when Kohli is #1 ODI batsman.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Won’t mind Babar getting out to a poor spinner ever now and then after averaging 50+ and scoring 27 hundreds and 7 double hundreds.

In the last 50 years of Test cricket, only Lara and Sangakkara have scored more 200s than Kohli, and he still has 4-5 years of Test cricket left.

Does Babar avg 50 in tests?

 

[Mamoon]

Does Babar avg 50 in tests?

You misread my post.

 

[Mesozoic]

Thought so. Little noise from delusional Indian fans in the face of reality.

Come back when Kohli is #1 ODI batsman.

Well with two T20 world cups in two years, every top player/team is focused more on the T20s. ODIs will take a backseat for a while now.

So, a great opportunity for a guy like Babar to cling onto that spot when no one cares about the format. He did the same with the T20 rankings when everyone's focus was on the 2019 WC...

 

[Rellu_Katta]

there has to be a limit to this maddness... can PCB actually take an IQ test before allowing explayers to take roles of coaching staff... this is really embarassing

Babar Azam is a giant, has the potntial and time on his side to out-perform and out-class Kholi BUT ON THIS GIVEN MOEMNT, Kholi is miles miles miles ahead of him .. and to make this statement, this is just blind stupid....

Rana Sahab needs to understand tht the sooner they get rid of Aqib the better

M.Haffez should be given the role of coaching .. he would do a trillion times better job than Aqib

 

[rhony]

His timing is off. Last time when India toured Eng, kohli made runs. If this statement was made after 2014 series when Kohli struggled, it would have made more sense.

Both Kohli and Babar need to relearn how to play spin. They were sitting ducks against Rashid and Maharaj recently. Everybody needs to learn from Kohli's fitness but they won't. He's just a beast. Both Kohli and Babar need to learn T20 batting. Gotto be more aggressive from the start.

 

[Firebat]

Please stick to the topic at hand, or make a new thread if you don't want to.

 

[Technics 1210]

Well with two T20 world cups in two years, every top player/team is focused more on the T20s. ODIs will take a backseat for a while now.

So, a great opportunity for a guy like Babar to cling onto that spot when no one cares about the format. He did the same with the T20 rankings when everyone's focus was on the 2019 WC...

So now Babar Azam is #1 Batsman in ODi, no one cares about ODI? Ok sunshine.

Now since you have been watching cricket a lot less than Mamoon has, Babar and Kohli are 2 different players. Kohli is clearly more agressive making him an impact player; hence the king of chases. Babar is more classical and an accumulator.

You can sit here and compare their techniques, but different styles means different technique.

Both styles have their place in cricket, and most people would pay money to watch both Kohli and Babar bat in partnership. An aggressor at one end, and an accumulator at the other.

Both can learn from each other. SRT was changing his technique after his tennis elbow injury which may not mean much but by that time SRT had his eye on Bharat Ratna award. Dravid too, the most technically astute bastman (IMO), was still altering his technique well late into his career

It's true, you can't teach talent etc, but you can improve and the greats of the greats learn from others.

Babar doesn't need to cling on to anything, he never has, and still managed to oust #1 Kohli in ODI.

 

[shariqnoor]

Is there a higher superlative than deluded?

Because what Aaqib Javed is smoking, calling him deluded is an understatement. In terms of impact, Babar is not even in the top 20 batsman of the world. Impactless player. Kohli needs to learn nothing from Babar.

Babar is a good bat for Pakistani standards and usually scores runs which is great. But his innings are always impactless and his runs can never be used as a reference to call him one of the top batsmen in the world.

 

[Mesozoic]

It'll be extremely difficult for any one in the present or in the future to match the beast that was Kohli at his peak (2013-18) in all formats....

Babar Azam, his fans and well-wishers and these ex-cricketers should be happy if he manages to do atleast 50% of what peak Kohli did....

 

[Technics 1210]

It'll be extremely difficult for any one in the present or in the future to match the beast that was Kohli at his peak (2013-18) in all formats....

Babar Azam, his fans and well-wishers and these ex-cricketers should be happy if he manages to do atleast 50% of what peak Kohli did....

50% of what? Kohli's statistics? Or Kohli's trophy cabinet? Money earned? Or a combination of all 3?

 

[rhony]

50% of what? Kohli's statistics? Or Kohli's trophy cabinet? Money earned? Or a combination of all 3?

Option 4: Number of games won.

Money Earned isn't even a comparison. Both have trophies. Babar Azam won the Champions trophy as a player and Virat Kohli won the ODI WC as a player too. None of them won the MOS but yeah they both won the top 2 ODI tournaments.

 

[rhony]

50% of what? Kohli's statistics? Or Kohli's trophy cabinet? Money earned? Or a combination of all 3?

Infact Kohli won 2 MOS in the last two T20 WCs. That should be something that Babar can aspire to. Winning the cup needs a team to perform. But MOS requires individual performance.

 

[Technics 1210]

Infact Kohli won 2 MOS in the last two T20 WCs. That should be something that Babar can aspire to. Winning the cup needs a team to perform. But MOS requires individual performance.

Is that it? A decade of an illustrious career and 2 MOMs? Hmmm. A bit like when you ask Indian fans to list their great SRT innings, the first and pretty much last is 2003 WC.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Option 4: Number of games won.

Money Earned isn't even a comparison. Both have trophies. Babar Azam won the Champions trophy as a player and Virat Kohli won the ODI WC as a player too. None of them won the MOS but yeah they both won the top 2 ODI tournaments.

Kohli won a CT too iirc

 

[BreadPakoda]

Babar is a run machine these days. Today’s 50 is another reminder that teams are failing to get him out early. The more runs he makes, the more attention he will get and teams will be making their bowling plans around him.

 

[rhony]

Is that it? A decade of an illustrious career and 2 MOMs? Hmmm. A bit like when you ask Indian fans to list their great SRT innings, the first and pretty much last is 2003 WC.

Read my post clearly. IT's MOS. And yeah, it's a big deal if you win man of the series in a world tournament twice.

And in the last decade, he won a ODI WC, He won a Champions trophy, He won a test series in Aus and won MOS in two back to back T20I WC. He also won more tests than any Indian captain ever. India is in top 2 in every format under his leadership. These are achievements that many countries and their players haven't and will not achieve in their lifetimes.

 

[nam]

Aqib needs to be inducted in "Pakistan Hall of Shame" for his comments.. and yes 's' is not a typo

 

[Mamoon]

Read my post clearly. IT's MOS. And yeah, it's a big deal if you win man of the series in a world tournament twice.

And in the last decade, he won a ODI WC, He won a Champions trophy, He won a test series in Aus and won MOS in two back to back T20I WC. He also won more tests than any Indian captain ever. India is in top 2 in every format under his leadership. These are achievements that many countries and their players haven't and will not achieve in their lifetimes.

Not only India, but he is the most prolific Asian Test captain of all time with 36 wins. Kohli is a living legend - our fans can only run their mouths because Pakistan does not have the capability to produce a cricketer like Kohli in the modern era.

 

[Technics 1210]

Read my post clearly. IT's MOS. And yeah, it's a big deal if you win man of the series in a world tournament twice.

And in the last decade, he won a ODI WC, He won a Champions trophy, He won a test series in Aus and won MOS in two back to back T20I WC. He also won more tests than any Indian captain ever. India is in top 2 in every format under his leadership. These are achievements that many countries and their players haven't and will not achieve in their lifetimes.

MOS or MOM; just 2? Is that it? 10 years and all you got is 2 awards?

No. Kohli did not win an ODI WC because of his performances; he never hit an innings that pushed India over the line; unlike Dhoni did; Kohli was part of the WC and CT13 winning team as player and not as captain. Big difference.

Under Kohli's leadership how many IPL titles has RCB won?

The fact you measure Kohli's achievements through rankings sums you and your ilk up.

 

[Technics 1210]

Kohli won WC11 and CT13 as a passenger; not a match winner.

 

[rhony]

MOS or MOM; just 2? Is that it? 10 years and all you got is 2 awards?

No. Kohli did not win an ODI WC because of his performances; he never hit an innings that pushed India over the line; unlike Dhoni did; Kohli was part of the WC and CT13 winning team as player and not as captain. Big difference.

Under Kohli's leadership how many IPL titles has RCB won?

The fact you measure Kohli's achievements through rankings sums you and your ilk up.

Naa. It's you who's looking at Babar's rankings and comparing because he hasn't done anything that Kohli's didn't do.

Just 2 MOS in WCs? That's ridiculous. Kohli was the top scorer of the team in CT final.

So stop scoring own goal by comparing Kohli with Babar based on ranking but again ridiculing the same rankings. When Babar wins something that Kohli hasn't then we can compare.

 

[Mesozoic]

Kohli won WC11 and CT13 as a passenger; not a match winner.

He was the top scorer in the low scoring CT final and also got a 50 in the semi final. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

 

[Technics 1210]

Naa. It's you who's looking at Babar's rankings and comparing because he hasn't done anything that Kohli's didn't do.

Just 2 MOS in WCs? That's ridiculous. Kohli was the top scorer of the team in CT final.

So stop scoring own goal by comparing Kohli with Babar based on ranking but again ridiculing the same rankings. When Babar wins something that Kohli hasn't then we can compare.

Nope. I haven't championed Babar's ranking at all. I did use his ranking to provide a juxtaposition to demonstrate the different styles in batting.

Only insecure Indian fans cling to rankings. As seen above.

 

[Technics 1210]

He was the top scorer in the low scoring CT final and also got a 50 in the semi final. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

Top scorer in low scoring final. OMG. What was his score?

Sums you and understanding up.

 

[rhony]

Top scorer in low scoring final. OMG. What was his score?

Sums you and understanding up.

Are you OK? You seem to be hurt. You say rankings don't matter after comparing Babar with Kohli based on rankings. You say MOS doesn't matter after saying there was no impactful performance in another WC.

Lets get you some help to understand this better. Top score in a low scoring game is more valuable than scoring when every body else does too. Now that you learned something new, let's move on

 

[Technics 1210]

Indians in a tailspin because Babar is #1 ODI batsman. This is not the same as me saying rankings are everything.

English, the global language.

 

[Technics 1210]

10 years of Kohli, and only 2 awards, both as a passenger.

 

[TheNeutralist]

Memories of Virat Kohli Vs Umar Akmal thread, can anyone create a Virat Kohli Vs Babar Azam thread

 

[King_Kohli]

Kohli won WC11 and CT13 as a passenger; not a match winner.

There has to be a limit to this maddness...

CT 2013 Final: 66/5 and then Kohli saved day.
Kohli was highest scorer in CT final.

Glad that he didn't take 50 balls to score 50 runs

 

[Oxfordchamp]

Kohli has been ICC cricketer of the decade too..Babar is no where close. It's a shame.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Kapil vs Imran is a one-sided comparison in Test cricket but it is very much debatable in ODIs. Kapil had a batting SR of 95 in an era where a SR of 70 was considered excellent.

A batting average of 23 at a SR of 95 with a bowling average of 27 in the era that he played in was very impressive.

Besides, it is not just about stats about impact and legacy as well. Babar has been a fixture in the team for 5 years now and he has only played 1 or maybe 2 genuinely iconic innings.

He has not done anything in his career so far to be considered a legendary player in the making. So far he has been a big stats-padder.

Kapil was as old as Babar was in 2018 when he captained India to the 1983 World Cup while beating arguably the greatest team of all time twice including in the final.

He changed the dynamics of Indian cricket and has established a legacy as one of the most iconic Asian cricketers ever. He is an absolute titan of Indian cricket - a pillar.

Juxtaposing the Imran-Kapil comparison with Kohli-Babar comparison is completely ridiculous and highly disrespectful to Kapil’s legacy as a cricketer.

Babar's one ODI 100 against NZ which completely destroyed IND in the semi final was better than any Kohli 100 in WCs. Kohli's two centuries in WC came against BD and a depleted Pak 2015 side.

 

[Hitman]

10 years of Kohli, and only 2 awards, both as a passenger.

How many trophies does your beloved Waqar Younis have in his cabinet? Forget trophies, what is record against Australia in Tests? Played 2 matches in World Cups against arch rivals India, got the beating of his life in both the matches.

 

[Technics 1210]

How many trophies does your beloved Waqar Younis have in his cabinet? Forget trophies, what is record against Australia in Tests? Played 2 matches in World Cups against arch rivals India, got the beating of his life in both the matches.

This thread isn't about Waqar Younis and no one claims WY is the greatest ODI bowler.

Reality is Kohli hasn't won a single ICC competition during his peak years, and not even an IPL tournament in the 13+ years with RCB.

Indians can weep and whimper all they want; these are the cold hard facts.

Oh, winning a MoS award for a competition India didn't win is like winning the booby concellation prize - proving that you can score the most runs, but they're pointless if your team doesn't win the comp. No one remembers MoS, but they do remember the winners.

Of course speaking of Australia, firstly a bilateral series isn't the same as an ICC event/IPL. Secondly Kohli didn't play in 3 of the 4 tests in 2021 series which India won. Though his 183 against Pakistan was a fantastic knock, but again in a non ICC event which many fans regardless as pointless - the Asia Cup.

Still this doesn't change the fact Kohli is a gun player, but once again, it's not about the number of runs your score, it's about when you score them.

 

[Hitman]

This thread isn't about Waqar Younis and no one claims WY is the greatest ODI bowler.

This thread isn't about Sachin Tendulkar either. But you somehow brought him up. Hypocrite! And you speak of ODI cricket, what did Waqar Younis achieve in Test cricket? His record against Australia and India is so pathetic, you'd get confused whether he was a genuine bowler of a part time bowler.

Reality is Kohli hasn't won a single ICC competition during his peak years, and not even an IPL tournament in the 13+ years with RCB.

Same is the case with Waqar Younis. At least Kohli was a part of a World Cup winning squad and a CT winning squad. What has Waqar Younis got to show in his cabinet?

Indians can weep and whimper all they want; these are the cold hard facts.

Indians are the ones whining? It's Pakistani fans whining day and night trying to prove how Babar belongs to the same league as Kohli. And the funniest bit is that there are a lot of sane Pakistani fans on PP who have openly admitted that Babar isn't even anywhere near Kohli.

 

[Technics 1210]

This thread isn't about Sachin Tendulkar either. But you somehow brought him up. Hypocrite!

I mentioned your bhagwaan as a point of reference on how a player considered to be the most technical batsman still had room for improvement.

Take your hollow insecurities else where.

Yes I ignored the rest of your post. Not relevant as it doesn't change the facts on Kohli.

 

[Hitman]

I mentioned your bhagwaan as a point of reference on how a player considered to be the most technical batsman still had room for improvement.

Take your hollow insecurities else where.

Yes I ignored the rest of your post. Not relevant as it doesn't change the facts on Kohli.

Expected response from a certified hypocrite

You said that this thread isn't about Waqar Younis when I brought up his name. But before that you shamelessly brought SRT's name in this thread when the thread has nothing to do with him.

And now you are trying to justify why you brought SRT's name in this thread. Have some shame, you have been caught with your pants down. If it were any other poster with even a bit of self respect, he would have accepted his mistake and apologised.

 

[Technics 1210]

Got it, Hitman agrees with my opinion on Kohli but needs a kleenex because SRT was mentioned to explain the point he ended up agreeing with.

These post 2000 cricket fans, honestly.

 

[Hitman]

Son, I've been following cricket much longer that you. And even if someone follows cricket after 2000, he will still have more credibility than an outright hypocrite like you. Even a blind man can see your hypocrisy in this thread.

Kohli has 70 international centuries. Come back to me when any of your player scores even 50 international centuries. There's a reason why cricket pundits and ex-players all over the world consider Kohli the best all format player in his era. You can stand on top of your rooftop and keep babbling against Kohli, not even a rabbis infested canine will take you seriously.

 

[Technics 1210]

The same pundits hail Babar Azam as a top player too.

Funny, how the Indian fans accept the view of pundits in support of their players, but not in support of others. Hypocrite indeed!

Anyway, enough of this, nothing will change the facts on Kohli and his abysmal record in winning ICC/IPL competitions.

Man, he must be ruing the day of the CT17 final. The stage was set; glorious day, chasing a juicy 330+, #1 batsman, infront of a packed stadium with Bharat Army - and decived twice in consecutive balls.

Oh well, you can't win them all.

Good night.

 

[Hitman]

Expected response from someone who has lost an argument. Tuck his tail between his legs and walk away, while in the process boasting about how his player once did better

BTW< I'm not a proven hypocrite like you. Who said that we don't agree with pundits of the game who call Babar a good player? We all accept that he is a fine player. But no pundit till date has said that Babar is better than Kohli. They might have compared Babar with Kohli, but at no point did anyone say that Babar is better than Kohli.

 

[MHN1293]

Ignore lack of trophies in kohlis cabinet. We are still yet to see babar single handedly win a game for his country which kohli has done numerous amounts of time. Babar is a great batsmen buts its really immature to compare someone with only 150 innings and less than 8000 international runs to someone who is already an atg with 4 years still left.

 

[avihash]

The ipl is littered with players of babar's level. You leave them to accumulate runs against minnows and they will have better stats.

Let Babar complete 70 centuries first, till then there is only 1 king and rest are only pawns.

 

[Thanos]

Naa. It's you who's looking at Babar's rankings and comparing because he hasn't done anything that Kohli's didn't do.

Just 2 MOS in WCs? That's ridiculous. Kohli was the top scorer of the team in CT final.

So stop scoring own goal by comparing Kohli with Babar based on ranking but again ridiculing the same rankings. When Babar wins something that Kohli hasn't then we can compare.

Haha.
Exactly what I noticed in all his posts. In one post he says Kohli had only rankings to show off all these years and nothing else and in next post he puts Babar above Kohli since Babar is no 1 now.

 

[Mesozoic]

Virat Kohli recently got a 80 off 55 or something against England and he was criticized endlessly by Indian fans for his "slowish knock" even when India ended up winning the game...

Now Babar Azam has got a 50 off 50 with Pakistan losing the game eventually and Pak fans are still giving excuses..

Tells you everything you need to know...

 

[Kroll]

Babar tends to play quite square on regardless of where the ball is pitched and which shot he plays. In England he was getting squared up a lot in the tests.

In LOI, its easier for him because pitches are more flat. Maybe one area, he can improve to become even better.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Babar is in the same class as the support cast of Indian batting – KL Rahul, Iyer, Agarwal etc.
.

The three names you mentioned are not equally good.
Kl Rahul is way better than Shreyas Iyer, so if Babar is as good as KL then he is surely better than Iyer.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

One thing VK can definitely learn and improve on (not necessarily from BA but from somany others) is not to behave like a headless chook on field, not overdo the agro bit and remember that there are kids watching who'd want to emulate their heroes. He'd do well to remember that the Blue india cap also embodies a continued legacy of such exceptional luminiaries like the amaranths, the two Vijays, the Pataudis, Polly Umrigar, The Gaekwads, Venkat, Chandra, Pras, Sunny(the odd transgression forgiven , Vishy, Sardesai, Wadekar, Kapil, srinath, Anil, Rahul D , Sachin, VVS, MSD and now with Jazzboom, Jads, yadav, Rahane, vihari, ashwin. These guys were and are passionate and fought intensely minus the gaali galooch, the needless heckling and pathetic posturing.
In the words of Matthew hayden "if you want aggression look into Rahul Dravid's eyes".
For me as an indian, there are times when his behavior makes me cringe...as it does to heaps who are proud of our above mentioned legacy. Winning and loosing is part of the game.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

One thing VK can definitely learn and improve on (not necessarily from BA but from somany others) is not to behave like a headless chook on field, not overdo the agro bit and remember that there are kids watching who'd want to emulate their heroes. He'd do well to remember that the Blue india cap also embodies a continued legacy of such exceptional luminiaries like the amaranths, the two Vijays, the Pataudis, Polly Umrigar, The Gaekwads, Venkat, Chandra, Pras, Sunny(the odd transgression forgiven , Vishy, Sardesai, Wadekar, Kapil, srinath, Anil, Rahul D , Sachin, VVS, MSD and now with Jazzboom, Jads, yadav, Rahane, vihari, ashwin. These guys were and are passionate and fought intensely minus the gaali galooch, the needless heckling and pathetic posturing.
In the words of Matthew hayden "if you want aggression look into Rahul Dravid's eyes".
For me as an indian, there are times when his behavior makes me cringe...as it does to heaps who are proud of our above mentioned legacy. Winning and loosing is part of the game.

Gone are those days. Virat is, and will remain aggressive. Move on.

 

[salahuddin10]

Imran was a great ODI bowler in his prime and although his World Cup semifinal innings was terrible, the World Cup final innings was excellent and set up the win for Pakistan. Kapil edges it in the ODI format in my view because he was more explosive with the bat and had a SR that would be considered good even by today’s standards.

Nevertheless, if people pick Imran over him in ODIs as well it is perfectly reasonable, but to claim that Imran-Kapil comparison is like comparing Kohli-Babar is a joke.

Both Imran and Kapil were legendary cricketers, while Babar is nowhere near legendary status which Kohli has already attained.

Babar -Kohli comparison make much more sense than Imran and kapil

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Babar -Kohli comparison make much more sense than Imran and kapil

Stats don't give justice to Kapil Dev the same way Babar doesn't give justice to his stats

 

[Mamoon]

Babar -Kohli comparison make much more sense than Imran and kapil

No it doesn’t. It is complete nonsense to suggest so.

Imran, Kapil and Kohli - all three are legendary cricketers. Babar on the other hand is nowhere close to being legendary at this point.

Only Pakistani fans are capable of suggesting that a Babar vs Kohli comparison makes more sense than an Imran vs Kapil comparison.

Pakistani fans overrated Babar so much it is hilarious. However, it is understandable because Pakistani is a joke of a cricket team with no talent.

Since Mohammad Yousuf’s debut in the late 90’s, Babar is actually the first Pakistani batsmen who has the game for all formats. Hence, Pakistani fans can be forgiven for going overboard.

However, I shudder to think how our fans would react if Pakistan actually produces a player of Kohli, Steve Smith of Rohit caliber. We would probably erect a statue for him right next to Minar-e-Pakistan.

Babar is a KL Rahul, Agarwal, Iyer, Samson, Pandey, Nitish Rana etc. level player. Replace anyone with Babar in the Pakistan side and they would also have similar statistics and similar ranking points.

Babar is very lucky to be playing in a talentless team where there is no competition for his spot and there is no pressure on him to alter his playing style. He can flop for 50+ matches and his place in the side will not be under scrutiny.

That is the lack of talent and the level of batting competition in Pakistan. It is embarrassing.

Every year, our lack of talent is exposed in PSL. The local batsmen look bang average even though the quality of bowling in PSL is very poor.

 

[Mamoon]

Babar's one ODI 100 against NZ which completely destroyed IND in the semi final was better than any Kohli 100 in WCs. Kohli's two centuries in WC came against BD and a depleted Pak 2015 side.

And what should we do with this information and what conclusion can we draw? An inferior player can produce a better performance than a superior player in a World Cup game.

Ashish Nehra’s 6/23 against England in the 2003 World Cup is probably a better bowling performance than any performance by a Pakistani bowler in a World Cup game except for Wasim in the 92 final.

That does not mean that Nehra can be compared to the great Pakistani pacers.

Babar is an excellent batsman but he is not comparable to Kohli who is one of the greatest of all time. Even if Kohli retired today and Babar plays for another 10 years, he probably has no chance of equaling - let alone surpass - Kohli.

Kohli is a better batsman than anyone Pakistan has ever produced, and Babar has a long, long way to go before he can be considered better than Miandad, Inzamam, Yousuf and Younis, let alone Kohli.