"Virat Kohli can improve his technique by looking at Babar Azam" : Aaqib Javed

[salahuddin10]

No it doesn’t. It is complete nonsense to suggest so.

Imran, Kapil and Kohli - all three are legendary cricketers. Babar on the other hand is nowhere close to being legendary at this point.

Only Pakistani fans are capable of suggesting that a Babar vs Kohli comparison makes more sense than an Imran vs Kapil comparison.

Pakistani fans overrated Babar so much it is hilarious. However, it is understandable because Pakistani is a joke of a cricket team with no talent.

Since Mohammad Yousuf’s debut in the late 90’s, Babar is actually the first Pakistani batsmen who has the game for all formats. Hence, Pakistani fans can be forgiven for going overboard.

However, I shudder to think how our fans would react if Pakistan actually produces a player of Kohli, Steve Smith of Rohit caliber. We would probably erect a statue for him right next to Minar-e-Pakistan.

Babar is a KL Rahul, Agarwal, Iyer, Samson, Pandey, Nitish Rana etc. level player. Replace anyone with Babar in the Pakistan side and they would also have similar statistics and similar ranking points.

Babar is very lucky to be playing in a talentless team where there is no competition for his spot and there is no pressure on him to alter his playing style. He can flop for 50+ matches and his place in the side will not be under scrutiny.

That is the lack of talent and the level of batting competition in Pakistan. It is embarrassing.

Every year, our lack of talent is exposed in PSL. The local batsmen look bang average even though the quality of bowling in PSL is very poor.

I agree that Babar has to improve his game a lot to be at the level of Kohli but rn there is difference but not much whereas when youll compare Kapil and Imran youll realise how dumb you are to compare them.Kapil is a woakes type player wheras we are yet to see another Imran

 

[Mamoon]

I agree that Babar has to improve his game a lot to be at the level of Kohli but rn there is difference but not much whereas when youll compare Kapil and Imran youll realise how dumb you are to compare them.Kapil is a woakes type player wheras we are yet to see another Imran

Ashwin is on his way of surpassing Imran as a Test all-rounder. If he keeps this up for another 3-4 years he can be considered better.

One can only laugh at comparing Woakes with Kapil. It simply reiterates the fact that Pakistani fans are the most deluded fans in the world and know nothing about cricket. For Pakistani cricket fans, the cricket world starts and ends with Imran Khan.

The world has seen better cricketers before and after Imran Khan. However, considering the fact that Pakistan is the least talented cricket nation of all time with the least amount of great cricketers, it is not surprising that we overrate the handful of great players that we have produced.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I agree that Babar has to improve his game a lot to be at the level of Kohli but rn there is difference but not much whereas when youll compare Kapil and Imran youll realise how dumb you are to compare them.Kapil is a woakes type player wheras we are yet to see another Imran

Kapil is a Woakes type player? Lol.

Kapil was the number one odi AR for 10 years striaght.

Imran is a better AR, yes but Kapil is a legend of the game.

 

[sshakir411]

LOL. I pray and hope this guy remains the coach of Lahore Qalandars forever. Aquib is a wonder of the world.

 

[sivanand82]

LOL. I pray and hope this guy remains the coach of Lahore Qalandars forever. Aquib is a wonder of the world.

He also once said Tashin Ahmed is better bowler than Bumrah.He prefer to have him in his team over Bumrah.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

I agree that Babar has to improve his game a lot to be at the level of Kohli but rn there is difference but not much whereas when youll compare Kapil and Imran youll realise how dumb you are to compare them.Kapil is a woakes type player wheras we are yet to see another Imran

Woakes... Really?
Kapil dev was ranked no. 1 odi allrounder for most of the 1980s. He had a charismatic presence and was an impact player.
He would outshine Ben Stokes if he played in this era.

 

[salahuddin10]

Kapil is a Woakes type player? Lol.

Kapil was the number one odi AR for 10 years striaght.

Imran is a better AR, yes but Kapil is a legend of the game.

Accidentally forgot to write in tests

 

[salahuddin10]

Ashwin is on his way of surpassing Imran as a Test all-rounder. If he keeps this up for another 3-4 years he can be considered better.

One can only laugh at comparing Woakes with Kapil. It simply reiterates the fact that Pakistani fans are the most deluded fans in the world and know nothing about cricket. For Pakistani cricket fans, the cricket world starts and ends with Imran Khan.

The world has seen better cricketers before and after Imran Khan. However, considering the fact that Pakistan is the least talented cricket nation of all time with the least amount of great cricketers, it is not surprising that we overrate the handful of great players that we have produced.

Please explain how Ashwin is on his way of surpassing Imran.I have massive respect for Ashwin but just look at the numbers
Imran Ashwin
Bat 37.7 27.9
Bowl 22.6 24
And ashwin has played mostly on pitches where probably fakhar can get some wickets too.As for the kapil and woakes comparison
Kapil Woakes
Bat 31 27
Ball 29.6 29

Kapil cant make it to any top team as a player in tests.Not good enough to be a frontline bowler not good enough to be a batsman

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Gone are those days. Virat is, and will remain aggressive. Move on.

The days might change. The value of Humility and dignity does not. pathetic cringeworthy behavior is what it is. Arrogance remains arrogance and is usually precipitated by a heavy fall. Am indian and a fan of VK's batting but I wouldn't want any animal belonging to me behave like VK, leave alone my child or any young johny playing with his mates in the backyard. I know my opinion is 5c and is water of a duck's back and expect the majority of my indian bloggers here to jump on me. Am calling it as I see it. so be it.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Please explain how Ashwin is on his way of surpassing Imran.I have massive respect for Ashwin but just look at the numbers
Imran Ashwin
Bat 37.7 27.9
Bowl 22.6 24
And ashwin has played mostly on pitches where probably fakhar can get some wickets too.As for the kapil and woakes comparison
Kapil Woakes
Bat 31 27
Ball 29.6 29

Kapil cant make it to any top team as a player in tests.Not good enough to be a frontline bowler not good enough to be a batsman

Ashwin gets help from pitches, Imran got help from bottle caps.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Any way, the thread is not about Ashwin Vs Imran. Its about Virat Kohli Vs Babar. So let's stick to that.

 

[Rana]

Technique wise, Babar Azam really is the best in the world. Coaches use him as a model to teach young kids how to bat.

In the past, Ian Bell was a very popular batting model for coaches to teach children how to bat straight. His technique was even more in demand in comparison to Pietersen, Strauss, Trott and others who we’re superior batsmen to him at the time.

I’m not sure why people are so offended by this statement by Aqib, I don’t think he said Babar is a better batsman overall (even though he is right now). You can be an ATG like Kevin Pietersen and still send emails to Rahul Dravid to better your technique against certain types of bowlers, what is wrong with that?

 

[rhony]

Technique wise, Babar Azam really is the best in the world. Coaches use him as a model to teach young kids how to bat.

In the past, Ian Bell was a very popular batting model for coaches to teach children how to bat straight. His technique was even more in demand in comparison to Pietersen, Strauss, Trott and others who we’re superior batsmen to him at the time.

I’m not sure why people are so offended by this statement by Aqib, I don’t think he said Babar is a better batsman overall (even though he is right now). You can be an ATG like Kevin Pietersen and still send emails to Rahul Dravid to better your technique against certain types of bowlers, what is wrong with that?

You are right. But in this case, you are asking Dravid to go learn from Petersen. Kohli's technique enabled him to score everywhere. When Babar does the same, we can compare notes

 

[Mamoon]

Technique wise, Babar Azam really is the best in the world. Coaches use him as a model to teach young kids how to bat.

In the past, Ian Bell was a very popular batting model for coaches to teach children how to bat straight. His technique was even more in demand in comparison to Pietersen, Strauss, Trott and others who we’re superior batsmen to him at the time.

I’m not sure why people are so offended by this statement by Aqib, I don’t think he said Babar is a better batsman overall (even though he is right now). You can be an ATG like Kevin Pietersen and still send emails to Rahul Dravid to better your technique against certain types of bowlers, what is wrong with that?

Best in the world who was caught fishing in the corridor of uncertainty in every innings in England last summer except one, where he was LBW’d by Anderson? Not to mention he didn’t produce a single big score.

The notion that Babar has the best technique in the world is nothing but pure Pakistani delusion.

Kohli, Root and Williamson all have better techniques than Babar and should be used as models by coaches. Smith’s technique is great as well but he is an artist and his methods are un-coachable.

It is hard for our fans to accept but Babar is not close to being the best in the world at anything.

 

[Rana]

You are right. But in this case, you are asking Dravid to go learn from Petersen. Kohli's technique enabled him to score everywhere. When Babar does the same, we can compare notes

And even if Dravid did consult KP on how to play certain types of bowlers in certain conditions and certain formats, what would be wrong?

Yes I understand Kohli is far more accomplished, but it would be incorrect to say that he has mastered everything there is to learn and that he cannot learn something from someone inferior to him when it comes to accomplishments.

It’s a gentleman’s game and Kohli isn’t going to be offended. They (the Indian boys) clearly watch Babar bat all the time. They see him play his shots around the world against different world class bowlers.

Yes Babar has weaknesses such as left arm spin, but so does Kohli against leg spin and left arm seam. Surely, Kohli could pick up something from Babar whilst and Babar vice versa (which he already does)

 

[Rana]

Inzimam ul Haq: The greater, the more versatile and a champion batsman of Pakistan cricket.

Javed Miandad: The genius, the mastermind, the street fighter of Pakistani batting. A world champion.

Mohammad Yousuf: Great individual achievements, not a champion batsman in comparison to Inzimam and Miandad. But technically the most gifted of the three batsmen for sure.

 

[Rana]

Bowl Adil Rashid to Kohli and it becomes a very difficult proposition to Kohli.

Bowl Adil Rashid to Hafeez and watch the ball sail over into the stands 3-4 times in the space of 5 overs.

 

[rhony]

And even if Dravid did consult KP on how to play certain types of bowlers in certain conditions and certain formats, what would be wrong?

Yes I understand Kohli is far more accomplished, but it would be incorrect to say that he has mastered everything there is to learn and that he cannot learn something from someone inferior to him when it comes to accomplishments.

It’s a gentleman’s game and Kohli isn’t going to be offended. They (the Indian boys) clearly watch Babar bat all the time. They see him play his shots around the world against different world class bowlers.

Yes Babar has weaknesses such as left arm spin, but so does Kohli against leg spin and left arm seam. Surely, Kohli could pick up something from Babar whilst and Babar vice versa (which he already does)

No one can master everything. Babar's skill is a subset of Kohli's. That's the point.. And ofcourse they all have to learn and adapt or else they can't stay on top consistently.

 

[Rana]

“The technique that he has got, I have been really impressed. I mean, I see I hear that if a youngster is looking to copy a technique, you can’t go far from Babar Azam,” said Pollock.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/cricke...ers-should-follow-him-says-shaun-pollock/amp/

He is absolutely right.

 

[captain.hansolo]

The sad part is that he actually believes it, and a lot of Pakistani fans will agree with him.

That is why I always say that Pakistan is the most bankrupt cricket nation in the world.

Not only have we always been the least talented cricket nation, our players, ex-players, media analysts, coaches, selectors, fans etc. know nothing about cricket.

You can count on one hand the number of people in Pakistan with cricketing intelligence and who actually know what they are talking about.

i dont think your statement about lack of talent is true. the issue is more about being good spokesperson for the sport and for the country. Therein, former and current pakistani players are lacking, likely due to adequate exposure or general situational awareness.

Keep in mind that most of Pakistan's talent is from relatively rural parts of the country, rising as tear away fast bowlers or hard hitting batsmen, whereas those from India or the other SEAN nations rise through urban cricket clubs, until recently often had a side gig while being a hobbyist cricketer.

There is something to be said about being media savvy, about not making sweeping generalizations, and being circumspect with your words. This is likely where former Pakistani players are lacking.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

The days might change. The value of Humility and dignity does not. pathetic cringeworthy behavior is what it is. Arrogance remains arrogance and is usually precipitated by a heavy fall. Am indian and a fan of VK's batting but I wouldn't want any animal belonging to me behave like VK, leave alone my child or any young johny playing with his mates in the backyard. I know my opinion is 5c and is water of a duck's back and expect the majority of my indian bloggers here to jump on me. Am calling it as I see it. so be it.

Well he is humble when needed. And will needle the opposition with loud mouths,
Like Dickwella.. Like Mitchell Johnson.. Like Ben Stokes.
When he celebrates, it is with his team mates. All the expressions, are within the limits and never in the face of the opposition player, unless needled.. Like that Kesrick Williams.
So, I am not sure what you are onto. I don't want to go back to days of Srinath being abused by Ponting on bowling a bouncer and no one standing up to such bullies.
Try that with Virat in charge, you will learn the lesson of a lifetime.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I don't want to go back to days of Srinath being abused by Ponting on bowling a bouncer and no one standing up to such bullies.

Actually Srinath had gone to show concern after bowling the bouncer, it was then Ponting asked him to buzz off and bowl.

 

[The lone Ranger]

Why would someone who has scored over 70 international centuries and 22k+ runs in a decade have to learn anything from an inferior player who has a grand total of 1 overseas test century?

Some people have been trying their best to overrate baba's WC league match century which came off 130 balls, included two lives when he was on 30. As if it can't be replicated by any minnow level batsmen in a league match!

Yes, the pitch was assisting for the spinners but NZ didn't have any spinner other than that darter santner so Williamson himself had to bowl almost 10 overs. This and the two dropped chances made it easier for babar other than that nothing special was in that innings.

Just Imagine if he had scored 5 centuries in one world cup in overseas conditions, everyone would have been saying even Bradman could learn something from this legendary player.

 

[Indiafan]

“The technique that he has got, I have been really impressed. I mean, I see I hear that if a youngster is looking to copy a technique, you can’t go far from Babar Azam,” said Pollock.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/cricke...ers-should-follow-him-says-shaun-pollock/amp/

He is absolutely right.

Pollock specifically mentions YOUNGSTERS and not established legenfs. As I said, at this post just making yourself a laughing stock for everyone to mock

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Well he is humble when needed. And will needle the opposition with loud mouths,
Like Dickwella.. Like Mitchell Johnson.. Like Ben Stokes.
When he celebrates, it is with his team mates. All the expressions, are within the limits and never in the face of the opposition player, unless needled.. Like that Kesrick Williams.
So, I am not sure what you are onto. I don't want to go back to days of Srinath being abused by Ponting on bowling a bouncer and no one standing up to such bullies.
Try that with Virat in charge, you will learn the lesson of a lifetime.

Hmm...some good points.... and I'd accept that if it was reactive. Its not. On a lot of times he is the antagonist. On a lot of times there's needless posturing and aggression. Its these that I am pointing to.
I am all for passion and agro but donot over do it. The team that won in Aus had this in spades and showed in their intensity on the field and less with their tounges.....let leave it at that.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Actually Srinath had gone to show concern after bowling the bouncer, it was then Ponting asked him to buzz off and bowl.

True....that was one time I wish Sri had given punter a gobful...

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Hmm...some good points.... and I'd accept that if it was reactive. Its not. On a lot of times he is the antagonist. On a lot of times there's needless posturing and aggression. Its these that I am pointing to.
I am all for passion and agro but donot over do it. The team that won in Aus had this in spades and showed in their intensity on the field and less with their tounges.....let leave it at that.

Further, in defence of vk, I'd still put forth an observation-I guess he attracts most camera time than most contemporary players out there. I guess my comments could be biased as we get to see each andevery expression of his, much more than other players.....almost to spawn a meme - 'kohli-cam'...but my argument non the less still stands, he could tone it down a bit...

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Further, in defence of vk, I'd still put forth an observation-I guess he attracts most camera time than most contemporary players out there. I guess my comments could be biased as we get to see each andevery expression of his, much more than other players.....almost to spawn a meme - 'kohli-cam'...but my argument non the less still stands, he could tone it down a bit...

Well he does get a lot of camera time because he is very emotive, aggressive and full of expressions.
You are not biased he definitely is aggressive..

Over the top, I disagree there. Most of the times he is never in face of the batters.. he celebrates with his team mates.
But if someone wants to needle.. like Kesrick William did, well then lookout.

He has been like that since 2008 U-19 WC win.There also, The SA captain has said something which needled him.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

True....that was one time I wish Sri had given punter a gobful...

If anyone pull such stunt like Ponting or Symonds used to pull against Sub continental teams touring Australia against Virat's team.. Well then, good luck to him.

Miandad was the last SC player who stood up against such bullying, and I always admired him for that.

 

[CricketCartoons]

True....that was one time I wish Sri had given punter a gobful...

Ponting did the right thing. Don't insult me by enquiring about my health just because you hit me with a bouncer.

 

[rhony]

Hmm...some good points.... and I'd accept that if it was reactive. Its not. On a lot of times he is the antagonist. On a lot of times there's needless posturing and aggression. Its these that I am pointing to.
I am all for passion and agro but donot over do it. The team that won in Aus had this in spades and showed in their intensity on the field and less with their tounges.....let leave it at that.

Who's to say how someone should express their passion? You can't have Dravid in mind and look at Kohli through those lens. Legends in many sports trash talked. This humility crap is for cowards who don't want to look foolish when they fail. When people don't fear failure, they are free of these forced notions and be what they really are.

That's what we want to see in sportsmen. Their ability, their passion and their expression. They work incredibly hard in the background and we can't be audience to the work they put in. They react to the situations based on their hundreds of thousands of hours of work and planning. Kohli ain't your trained animal. He will behave as he wishes and he earned it. If he goes overboard, he will be ready to face the consequences as well. He's not a robot to conform to every nobody's opinion of how a sportsman should behave. Just enjoy an artist perform at the highest level and stop whining about his expressions.

 

[Yasir_ch]

LOL.Nice joke.Keep em coming.He only struggled in 2014 tour against James Anderson.In 2018 tour he was highest run scorer I guess.Virat has just dip in form he will be back for sure.

 

[Unleashed]

Read this comments and laughed quite a lot at it. Was expecting this thread to make fun of him and instead saw some Pakistani posters agreeing with it. Oh well, the delusion is strong. Enjoy getting beaten by SA-B team.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

If anyone pull such stunt like Ponting or Symonds used to pull against Sub continental teams touring Australia against Virat's team.. Well then, good luck to him.

Miandad was the last SC player who stood up against such bullying, and I always admired him for that.

true...don't think most teams would try taking on vk's team on the sledging stakes ....
last sc players? - I guess Arjuna, Aravinda, Saurav, Afridi, Moin, Gambhir, ,Mahela -get a mention

 

[Last Monetarist]

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/the-advice-from-virat-kohli-which-helped-babar-azam-improve-as-a-batsman/745095

Pakistan cricket skipper Babar Azam, who has been one of the most consistent performers in all three forms of the game, achieved a new milestone on Wednesday where he leapfrogged Indian skipper Virat Kohli to become the No. 1 ODI batsman.

Given the rivalry on the field between the two neighbouring countries, time and again, fans and experts have compared Babar with Kohli - who has become a record-shattering machine in all formats of the game.

However, whenever he has been compared with Kohli, Babar has said that he looks up to Kohli and has a lot more to achieve.

Soon after he became the World's No. 1 batsman in ODIs, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) released a video where Babar, in conversation with his teammate Imam-ul-Haq, recalled how Kohli's advice helped him as a batsman.

“Previously, I used to play at nets with a casual mind but slowly I overcame this. I understood that If I am not taking my sessions seriously, how can I perform in matches?,” Babar said.

“In this regard, I once talked to Virat Kohli and he told me to take net sessions as seriously as matches. If you get out and play rash shots in nets, subsequently you will do the same in a match,” he added.

Babar, who has become only the fourth Pakistani batsman to claim the top spot in ICC ODI rankings, added that Kohli's advice helped him a lot and he now bats with more intensity in the nets.

“His advice helped me and now I don’t get satisfied with my batting at nets. If my net session doesn’t go well, I am disturbed throughout the day,” Babar added.

Babar, who is currently leading the Men in Green in an ongoing series against South Africa, produced a series of good knocks which helped him dethrone Kohli as the No. 1 ODI batsman. Babar entered the series with 837 points and moved to 858 rating points following his 103-run knock in the first match against the Proteas but dropped to 852 points by the time the new rankings were announced last week.

 

[MenInG]

Maybe Aaqib had a point

 

[El Generico]

Well maybe Babar can give tips to Kohli about scoring a T20 ton. Seems like this is something Kohli hasn’t been able to do.

 

[Enforcer]

Well maybe Babar can give tips to Kohli about scoring a T20 ton. Seems like this is something Kohli hasn’t been able to do.

Yes Babar azam was incredible today. Should give some tips to kohli, who, otherwise possess a splendid t20 record.

 

[MHN1293]

Aquib has the last laugh.

 

[gazza619]

Aquib has the last laugh.

Who would have thought!

 

[Ahmed216]

Not just Kohli but every batsman should learn from babar how to play those soothing late cuts to spinners and pacers alike

 

[Rana]

Thank you Aqib Javed for this experience!

 

[Rana]

Read this comments and laughed quite a lot at it. Was expecting this thread to make fun of him and instead saw some Pakistani posters agreeing with it. Oh well, the delusion is strong. Enjoy getting beaten by SA-B team.

Very funny comments I must say

 

[Rana]

Pollock specifically mentions YOUNGSTERS and not established legenfs. As I said, at this post just making yourself a laughing stock for everyone to mock

A laughing stock am I?

The question is about his technique, and EVERYONE can learn from it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Aquib has the last laugh.

Babar is now a better player than Kohli, because he bashed a SA C team?

 

[cricketjoshila]

A laughing stock am I?

The question is about his technique, and EVERYONE can learn from it.

People learn from techniques of ATGs, if Kohli has to learn he has Tendulkar Gavaskar Dravid etc to learn from.Outside of India he has Ponting Lara to learn.

Babar is way behind Kohli.

 

[rhony]

People learn from techniques of ATGs, if Kohli has to learn he has Tendulkar Gavaskar Dravid etc to learn from.Outside of India he has Ponting Lara to learn.

Babar is way behind Kohli.

This thread has potential and will be opened whenever Babar, Kohli perform or don't. Or when Pant or somebody scores and Babar doesn't. Fascinating really.

The heart of the argument is, Pakistanis never accept an Indian, Bumrah as the best bowler in the world. Indians will never accept Babar a Pakistani, as the best batsman in the world.

 

[Bigboii]

This thread has potential and will be opened whenever Babar, Kohli perform or don't. Or when Pant or somebody scores and Babar doesn't. Fascinating really.

The heart of the argument is, Pakistanis never accept an Indian, Bumrah as the best bowler in the world. Indians will never accept Babar a Pakistani, as the best batsman in the world.

And will continue to post ridiculous things to prove thier point...

 

[MHN1293]

Babar is now a better player than Kohli, because he bashed a SA C team?

Not a better batsmen . But he has something kohli dosent. Even conway has a 100 but that dosent make him 20 percent of the batsmen kohli is.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

People learn from techniques of ATGs, if Kohli has to learn he has Tendulkar Gavaskar Dravid etc to learn from.Outside of India he has Ponting Lara to learn.

Babar is way behind Kohli.

Learning has no age, boundaries or borders. I am pretty sure an andh bhakht like you can never understand this simple thing even if you try to. Also nobody said Babar is better than Kohli.

 

[MHN1293]

Aquibs statement about technique dosent make sense but his point does, that every batsmen can learn from others. Babar and williamson play some exquisite back foot drives and cuts.

 

[Mamoon]

Kohli does not even bother to play against attacks like these.

 

[rhony]

And will continue to post ridiculous things to prove thier point...

Precisely. Bumrah's action is ugly or Babar played weak bowlers etc doesn't matter. Bumrah will be judged based on performances and Babar will only score against that are bowling to him.

 

[Mamoon]

Not a better batsmen . But he has something kohli dosent. Even conway has a 100 but that dosent make him 20 percent of the batsmen kohli is.

He would have had a dozen T20I centuries had he opened regularly and played against Zimbabwe and South African D attacks.

He rarely plays T20Is against weak teams.

 

[Mamoon]

Babar Azam is a walking wicket against India. Kohli can learn nothing from his technique when his technique is not good enough against Indian bowlers.

 

[Line and Length]

Ashwin is on his way of surpassing Imran as a Test all-rounder. If he keeps this up for another 3-4 years he can be considered better.

One can only laugh at comparing Woakes with Kapil. It simply reiterates the fact that Pakistani fans are the most deluded fans in the world and know nothing about cricket. For Pakistani cricket fans, the cricket world starts and ends with Imran Khan.

The world has seen better cricketers before and after Imran Khan. However, considering the fact that Pakistan is the least talented cricket nation of all time with the least amount of great cricketers, it is not surprising that we overrate the handful of great players that we have produced.

Please tell me you're joking. How can you say that and then go on to rant about how Pakistani cricket fans are deluded. I think your hatred is overtaking your sensibility at this point.

 

[rhony]

Please tell me you're joking. How can you say that and then go on to rant about how Pakistani cricket fans are deluded. I think your hatred is overtaking your sensibility at this point.

Cricinfo came up with a decent article explaining why using relevant stats. Power of data.

 

[PakPremi]

Babar Azam is a walking wicket against India. Kohli can learn nothing from his technique when his technique is not good enough against Indian bowlers.

That's not true you always say Pakistan is a weak team. Kohli has played against Pakistan, or is Pakistan only a weak team when it suits your agenda.

 

[PakPremi]

Quoted the wrong post of Mamoon, it is response for the earlier post above.

 

[Mamoon]

That's not true you always say Pakistan is a weak team. Kohli has played against Pakistan, or is Pakistan only a weak team when it suits your agenda.

Kohli has demolished Pakistani lineups with the likes of Amir, Ajmal etc. Those attacks are much better than the Zimbabwe and South Africa D that Babar feasts on.

 

[El Generico]

Ashwin is on his way of surpassing Imran as a Test all-rounder. If he keeps this up for another 3-4 years he can be considered better.

One can only laugh at comparing Woakes with Kapil. It simply reiterates the fact that Pakistani fans are the most deluded fans in the world and know nothing about cricket. For Pakistani cricket fans, the cricket world starts and ends with Imran Khan.

The world has seen better cricketers before and after Imran Khan. However, considering the fact that Pakistan is the least talented cricket nation of all time with the least amount of great cricketers, it is not surprising that we overrate the handful of great players that we have produced.

Lol no offence but I don’t understand how anyone can take this poster seriously after this. Even Indian fans wouldn’t argue that Ashwin is or on his way to becoming better then IK.

BTW it’s not just Pakistani fans who rate Imran highly, most former greats rate him among the top 5 all-rounders ever. So are you claiming that Ashwin is on his way to being the top 5 test all rounders of all time?

 

[Technics 1210]

Perhaps Baber can teach Kohli how to score a T20 international century.

 

[rhony]

Do you remember when Kohli and AB destroyed that bowling attack consisting of Praveen Kumar and God knows who?

That was one of the greatest innings in T20 history apparently

Can't complain who the bowlers are. A batsman can only play those that are on the park. That's why one can't discount Babar's innings today as well. It's not his fault that Rabada,, Nortje were AWOL.. No, this wasn't Kohli's best T20 innings. It's 2016 WC innings against AUS.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Can't complain who the bowlers are. A batsman can only play those that are on the park. That's why one can't discount Babar's innings today as well. It's not his fault that Rabada,, Nortje were AWOL.. No, this wasn't Kohli's best T20 innings. It's 2016 WC innings against AUS.

That 2016WC innings against Australia was against a second string bowling attack too, if I remember correctly. I remember NCN and Faulker being the main bowlers, who got whacked around at the death.

 

[rhony]

That 2016WC innings against Australia was against a second string bowling attack too, if I remember correctly. I remember NCN and Faulker being the main bowlers, who got whacked around at the death.

That was their best T20 attack at the time. NCN and Faulker were regulars in that team. It was the best Kohli innings because of the pressure, the way he ran and scored boundaries at will and took the game home.

 

[pillionrider]

Take Kohli's Top 5 innings in Tests and T20s. And his Top 10 knocks in ODIs.

If Babar plays one from the above, it's scary to imagine what this place would look like

 

[cricketjoshila]

This thread has potential and will be opened whenever Babar, Kohli perform or don't. Or when Pant or somebody scores and Babar doesn't. Fascinating really.

The heart of the argument is, Pakistanis never accept an Indian, Bumrah as the best bowler in the world. Indians will never accept Babar a Pakistani, as the best batsman in the world.

Is Babar the best batsman in the world?

 

[rhony]

Is Babar the best batsman in the world?

Not yet. But he's on his way.

 

[Mamoon]

Perhaps Baber can teach Kohli how to score a T20 international century.

Not a bad idea. Babar can teach Kohli how to score a T20I century.

Agarwal can teach Babar how to score a double-century in Test cricket.

Ashish Nehra can teach Wasim Akram how to take a 6 wicket haul in ODIs.

Wasim Akram can return the favor and teach Tendulkar how to score a 250 in Test cricket.

Azhar Ali can reach Kohli how to score a triple-century in Test cricket.

 

[Cyclotron]

Are you serious?NCN and James foulkner were main bowlers of Australia T20 setup and they were regulars in limited over team.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Not a bad idea. Babar can teach Kohli how to score a T20I century.

Agarwal can teach Babar how to score a double-century in Test cricket.

Ashish Nehra can teach Wasim Akram how to take a 6 wicket haul in ODIs.

Wasim Akram can return the favor and teach Tendulkar how to score a 250 in Test cricket.

Azhar Ali can reach Kohli how to score a triple-century in Test cricket.

Stuart Binny has better figures than Wasim Akram. Let that sink in

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Kohli is on his way down. He is past the peak by now, and Babar Azam is only 26 and still improving.

At their current levels, Babar Azam is a better cricketer now, and I'd pick him over Kohli in any format if I had to make a choice.

It's no guarantee, but given the late-peaking trajectory of Pakistan batters, Babar will probably go on to be a much better overall batsman than Kohli at the end of their careers.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Are you serious?NCN and James foulkner were main bowlers of Australia T20 setup and they were regulars in limited over team.

Right, maybe not second string but it was a weak bowling attack. NCN and Faulkner were decent at best.

 

[Mobashir]

That 2016WC innings against Australia was against a second string bowling attack too, if I remember correctly. I remember NCN and Faulker being the main bowlers, who got whacked around at the death.

Kohli's biggest rivalry has been against Faulkner and Boland. He really destroyed them.

 

[MesonK]

Kohli is on his way down. He is past the peak by now, and Babar Azam is only 26 and still improving.

At their current levels, Babar Azam is a better cricketer now, and I'd pick him over Kohli in any format if I had to make a choice.

It's no guarantee, but given the late-peaking trajectory of Pakistan batters, Babar will probably go on to be a much better overall batsman than Kohli at the end of their careers.

They have a generation gap ... Only stupid fans compare them.

Two different players with different approach towards the game and belonging to two different generations.

 

[street cricketer]

Good one. I tend to take social media sabbaticals every now and then, but one thing I love about Pakistan cricket is that, no matter how long afterwards I login to PP, you could almost guarantee that you'll find a headline like this one, or Razzaq's Shehzad has more talent than Tendulkar ever had, Sohail Khan's ghar ka sher Kohli or Hasan Ali's I will pick all ten wickets vs India.

On a serious note, wonder what prompted Aqib to state that Babar has a superior technique to Kohli.

 

[Slim]

Good one. I tend to take social media sabbaticals every now and then, but one thing I love about Pakistan cricket is that, no matter how long afterwards I login to PP, you could almost guarantee that you'll find a headline like this one, or Razzaq's Shehzad has more talent than Tendulkar ever had, Sohail Khan's ghar ka sher Kohli or Hasan Ali's I will pick all ten wickets vs India.

On a serious note, wonder what prompted Aqib to state that Babar has a superior technique to Kohli.

Unfair to compare it with Razzaq's statement. You are talking about the number 1 batsman in the world here.

 

[street cricketer]

Unfair to compare it with Razzaq's statement. You are talking about the number 1 batsman in the world here.

Yeah. Tbh this one is not as ridiculous as the other statements but it's still over the top nonetheless to insinuate that Kohli has an inferior technique to Babar when Kohli has arguably the best technique in the world. He was leagues ahead of every single batsman from both teams in the India's tour of England which had very bowling friendly conditions and in India's tour of South Africa as well with the exception of AB de Villiers.

Even in India's first series win in Australia, he made run scoring look easy in the new Perth stadium's first ever test on a spicy green wicket that was reminiscent of the old WACA. Adelaide was a decent wicket for the quicks but Pujara cashed in on the slow wickets at the MCG and SCG in that series but the Perth wicket was by far the most difficult wicket of the series. As good as Babar is, he is yet to achieve these feats in test cricket.

 

[Zaz]

Of course virat can learn a thing or two from the best batsman in the world

Maybe babar e azam will take some time out sometime soon and show virat a couple of things to help tighten up his technique

 

[Markhor]

Many ex-players are like those conspiracy theory loving uncles who come over for Eid who say the most outlandish things, and you just have to nod your head politely and humour them.

This falls into one of those categories.