'Virat Kohli must be careful in what he says and does': David Lloyd

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'Virat Kohli must be careful in what he says and does': David Lloyd says India captain 'has been disrespecting umpires'

David Lloyd said Virat Kohli’s suggestion that England pressurized umpire Nitin Menon to give soft-signal in their favour in the 5th T20I is doubtful but he is sure that the India captain has been ‘remonstrating with umpires throughout this tour.’

Former England cricketer David Lloyd criticized India captain Virat Kohli for batting against the ‘umpire’s call’ rule of cricket, adding that Kohli has been ‘pressuring, disrespecting’ the on-field umpires during the ongoing England’s tour of India.

Lloyd said Kohli’s suggestion that England pressurized umpire Nitin Menon to give soft-signal in their favour in the 5th T20I is doubtful but he is sure that the India captain has been ‘remonstrating with umpires throughout this tour.’

“Kohli also suggested England were pressuring umpires to give the 'soft signal' as out when Dawid Malan took a low catch in the fourth T20. Firstly, the soft signal is there to leave as much authority as possible with the on-field umpires.

“And I don't know if England put pressure on Nitin Menon in Ahmedabad, but I do know one thing — Kohli has been pressuring, disrespecting and remonstrating with umpires throughout this tour,” Lloyd wrote in his column for Daily Mail.

Lloyd slammed the ICC for not handling the on-field altercations between the players strictly.

“There have also been a number of altercations in India which, when copied, will permeate through every level. There was another on Tuesday near the end of the India innings. You should not confront an opposition player on the field. It's just not done. And the toothless International Cricket Council have done nothing,” he wrote.


David Lloyd was not happy with Virat Kohli's behaviour
Former England cricketer David Lloyd criticized India captain Virat Kohli for batting against the ‘umpire’s call’ rule of cricket, adding that Kohli has been ‘pressuring, disrespecting’ the on-field umpires during the ongoing England’s tour of India.


Lloyd said Kohli’s suggestion that England pressurized umpire Nitin Menon to give soft-signal in their favour in the 5th T20I is doubtful but he is sure that the India captain has been ‘remonstrating with umpires throughout this tour.’

“Kohli also suggested England were pressuring umpires to give the 'soft signal' as out when Dawid Malan took a low catch in the fourth T20. Firstly, the soft signal is there to leave as much authority as possible with the on-field umpires.




“And I don't know if England put pressure on Nitin Menon in Ahmedabad, but I do know one thing — Kohli has been pressuring, disrespecting and remonstrating with umpires throughout this tour,” Lloyd wrote in his column for Daily Mail.

Lloyd slammed the ICC for not handling the on-field altercations between the players strictly.

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“There have also been a number of altercations in India which, when copied, will permeate through every level. There was another on Tuesday near the end of the India innings. You should not confront an opposition player on the field. It's just not done. And the toothless International Cricket Council have done nothing,” he wrote.


Llyod strongly disagreed with Kohli’s stance against the umpire’s call.

"Look, I have played a long time when then there was no DRS, right? If the umpire made a decision, whether the batsman liked it or not, it stayed like that; vice-versa if the umpire gave him not out and it was out it stayed like that whether it was marginal or not," Kohli said on Monday at a media briefing in Pune ahead of the fist ODI against England.

"According to me, umpire's call right now is creating a lot of confusion. When you get bowled, as a batsman you don't expect the ball to hit more than 50% of the stumps to consider yourself bowled. So when the ball is shown as clipping the stumps, the bails are going to fall.”

Lloyd said umpires are being undermined and gave Kohli’s comments as an example.

“Umpires are being increasingly undermined in international cricket and there are players who seem to think they, rather than the officials, are running the game.

“Take Virat Kohli. Before the first ODI the India captain said umpire's call should be removed from the decision review system and if the ball is shown to be hitting any part of the stumps it should be given out.

“Kohli does not seem to have taken the consequences into account. If everything is out, including when the ball is just clipping the bails, then all Tests would be over in two days. An ODI would be over in four hours.

“Umpires have to be given their authority back. They must be handed yellow and red cards to stamp that lost authority because they look powerless. And Kohli, who has vast responsibility and influence, should be very careful in what he says and does,” Lloyd wrote in his column.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...land-s-tour-of-india-101616568992397-amp.html

 

[docteurmanish]

The match referees usually fine kohli . He is two points away from suspension I think .

But I agree - kohli is highly argumentative , gestures on field . But he is v similar to pointing in that respect and I do remember no action against pointing ever ...

 

[Gullycricket]

Yes Yes finally everyone is rising to this bully atleast. He needs to be called out for this behaviour. Imagine the outrage if Steve Smith or Warner or any Stokes did such.

 

[WengerOut]

Not a word about Malan's morality though. His hands were in such a funny position that you know that was no catch. Their acting if anything made the umpire give soft signal as out

 

[jiduguravindra]

Didn't root done the same in test series why he was silent then? These English men are such cry babies, they always cry over when they aren't winning.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Yes Yes finally everyone is rising to this bully atleast. He needs to be called out for this behaviour. Imagine the outrage if Steve Smith or Warner or any Stokes did such.

Who is included in everyone? Or does David Lloyd mean the world to you?

 

[AMSS]

Most of the times Virat irritates Indian fans with his antics. But if he's ruining lloyd's day enough to write an article about it, then I am all for it.

 

[MP2011]

Looks like Lloyd has single point agenda of sooking about whatever Kohli does. He has been laying into him ever since this tour started.

 

[MP2011]

Not a word about Malan's morality though. His hands were in such a funny position that you know that was no catch. Their acting if anything made the umpire give soft signal as out

That was outright cheating by Malan.

 

[King_Kohli]

Lol.
This guy keep crying

 

[Bengaluru]

This is one of the most hilarious articles from a complete nobody like David Lloyd. He makes no reference to Ben Stokes or Dawid Malan claiming bump catches. If anything, these English washout players who have been exposed in this series must be careful what catches they claim. Also, not to mention the complete and utter tripe being spouted by the English media and their fairly sizeable contingent of ex-cricketers turned internet trolls who have been indulging in their usual suspect serial pitch complaining, umpire whinging and just doing everything apart from congratulating the opposition. England is getting a hiding in this tour in every single format and all this wannabe can talk about is this? Pathetic. However, I have to thank Vaughan for letting me win £10 as a private bet with my friend as to how soon these sorry lot would start complaining about the pitch and yes, the second test was the correct answer.

 

[dildilpak]

Its probably an English thing to not question authority - maybe the reason why the ICC rule makers let the umpires get away with absolute howlers. No reason why there shouldnt be a performance review of umpires after every match or series by the players impacted by it. Its not like the umpires do this pro-bono, they get paid mighty dollar for their gig.

 

[rhony]

Ban Malan for cheating for a couple of games. Fine Kohli for that altercation with Butler when he was leaving the field. Kohli was right about Umpire's calls though.

 

[Robert]

Didn't root done the same in test series why he was silent then? These English men are such cry babies, they always cry over when they aren't winning.

At least they walk when they are clean bowled.

Kohli is not a person to be pointing fingers.

 

[WengerOut]

At least they walk when they are clean bowled.

Kohli is not a person to be pointing fingers.

But they claim grounded catches

 

[AMSS]

Its probably an English thing to not question authority - .

It's an English thing not to have their perceived authority questioned. Especially from erstwhile colonies.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Ah David Lloyd, looks like age has finally made you a bitter old sad man. Used to be quite good but has turned quite the nationalist and sees everything from England's prism. Cries about pitch, cries about opposition captain. Guess it's easier than accepting England just aren't all that, eh?

 

[Cricfan4eva]

But they claim grounded catches

Its very simple, under Morgan they don't care about spirit of cricket. Its obvious if fielder claims the catch on-field umpires give soft-signal out.

In a test, even though Rahane took a clean catch in slips, he suggested he didn't know. On-field umpire ruled soft signal as not out. Thankfully it was over-turned. But the system is there for anyone without an iota of decency to exploit.

 

[Tubs]

He has a point here. Kohli is always arguing with umpires, and getting into on-field spats.

 

[cricketjoshila]

But the English team is allowed to complain regarding umpiring?

 

[Babbar]

India team esp Kohli and Shastri are used to these mental games played by rival country’s media and ex-players. Australia learnt its lesson, England will also learn.

 

[street cricketer]

Most of the times Virat irritates Indian fans with his antics. But if he's ruining lloyd's day enough to write an article about it, then I am all for it.

Exactly my emotions.

 

[jiduguravindra]

He has a point here. Kohli is always arguing with umpires, and getting into on-field spats.

During test series root also constantly arguing with umpires, virat also does the same then why he didn't bring root name here. Double standards

 

[silentkiller187]

The thing is when Root complains to English umpires most just laugh him off and dont take it too seriously. Indian umpires start shaking in their boots as soon as Kohli approaches in fear of their jobs leading to more questionable decisions like the ones we saw in the games that have been concluded.

 

[Zaz]

Kohli and india get away with far too much because of their status and money

The ICC is soft towards them It seems theres one rule for kohli and india and another for the other teams Their code of conduct isnt fairly applied witht the other teams getting away with far less than kohli and india do

 

[JattMaula]

Kaptaan has brown mans burden now. He must be careful lest Lloyd get hurt.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Lloyd's gotten senile, more than usual. He's lasted this long due to his shtick of an eccentric old codger.

 

[RajBan]

Kohli needs to have a leash around his neck, period. It does not matter what Lloyd thinks or if Malan or Stokes is a cheat, regardless his attitude on ground is absolutely despicable and not something I will like to see from the next generation. He is full of himself and every mannerism on ground and outside is manufactured for commercial reasons. He is basically the Arnab Goswami on that field , both very timid in real life and all bravado is staged and managed.

Kohli does not have the spirit of Ganguly or intelligence of Dhoni, instead he is an artificial soul with zero humility, awareness and common sense.

He worked his bottom off to be a world class batsman and I will give him that but other than that one quality his behaviour is a disgrace.

 

[Tubs]

During test series root also constantly arguing with umpires, virat also does the same then why he didn't bring root name here. Double standards

I suppose it's more of a long-standing issue with Kohli. And it's far more aggressive and confrontational. Also, he gets into arguments with other players a lot, which isn't the case with Root.

 

[dildilpak]

Kohli needs to have a leash around his neck, period. It does not matter what Lloyd thinks or if Malan or Stokes is a cheat, regardless his attitude on ground is absolutely despicable and not something I will like to see from the next generation. He is full of himself and every mannerism on ground and outside is manufactured for commercial reasons. He is basically the Arnab Goswami on that field , both very timid in real life and all bravado is staged and managed.

Kohli does not have the spirit of Ganguly or intelligence of Dhoni, instead he is an artificial soul with zero humility, awareness and common sense.

He worked his bottom off to be a world class batsman and I will give him that but other than that one quality his behaviour is a disgrace.

Kohli is in your face & loves to give it back, i grant you that. But maybe thats an alien concept for most sub-continent people who i find are probably too meek & submissive for their own good. If Kohli was an Australian this would have been perfectly acceptable behavior by most there & probably would have been written off by the rest of the world as just being an Aussie, guess it rankles many that a sub-continental guy has that same sass!

 

[RajBan]

Kohli is in your face & loves to give it back, i grant you that. But maybe thats an alien concept for most sub-continent people who i find are probably too meek & submissive for their own good. If Kohli was an Australian this would have been perfectly acceptable behavior by most there & probably would have been written off by the rest of the world as just being an Aussie, guess it rankles many that a sub-continental guy has that same sass!

No it would not have been acceptable if he was a gora. The guy does not have any finesse, does not know when to stop and umpires of yesterday's would have put him in his place. You need to check how Nitin Mennon handled him in couple of instances and he immediately toned down from being a nursery kid throwing tantrums. And I can assure you I have seen enough "in your face " individuals in real life to know they are the ones who are actually weak infront of actual challenges and try to compensate by doing these false mannerisms.

 

[Abu_Hamza]

Earlier Australian teams of the past used to get away with these things and ASIAN captains or the teams used to be punished and it became common during PONTING era. Whats the big deal ?

 

[Robert]

But they claim grounded catches

So nobody has the moral right to point fingers and everyone should stop doing so.

 

[JattMaula]

Earlier Australian teams of the past used to get away with these things and ASIAN captains or the teams used to be punished and it became common during PONTING era. Whats the big deal ?

Our Kaptaan dared to question sportsmanship of English! The English! The most sportsmanlike of all sports! The gentlemen of men! The culture itself!

The audacity! The disrespect!

 

[Snowflake]

Kohli has developed a habit of arguing with the umpires, no question about that. The longer that goes unchecked, the worse it'll become.

Those calling Lloyd names are only fooling themselves.

 

[Hasan123]

A big reason why Kohli has gone on to become the player he is because of his personality. He is not going to change at this stage of his career. Furthermore I don't see David Lloyd pointing out others who have argued with umpires. This advice should not only apply to Virat Kohli.

 

[Concerned]

More like others should be careful of what Kholi says. Regardless of anyone views, Kholi is the most powerful player in today’s game.

 

[BaankeJi]

Biggest whiners at it again. They have problems if someone else does it but forget it if they do it themselves.
Malan and Rashid's catches if someone else had claimed, that would be the end of cricket spirit. Ian Bell run out, whole stadium whining.
We don't need instructions from them. They can go and do whatever they want.

 

[dildilpak]

No it would not have been acceptable if he was a gora. The guy does not have any finesse, does not know when to stop and umpires of yesterday's would have put him in his place. You need to check how Nitin Mennon handled him in couple of instances and he immediately toned down from being a nursery kid throwing tantrums. And I can assure you I have seen enough "in your face " individuals in real life to know they are the ones who are actually weak infront of actual challenges and try to compensate by doing these false mannerisms.

Comeon, you are taking Kohli’s antics way too seriously - every game needs characters, they are the ones who make it interesting. You need the mavericks like the Ronaldos, Djokovichs, Kohlis, Pontings of the world to spice up the game. Kohli thrives on challenging others- thats what makes him tick! To give him credit though its never directed towards his own team (unlike one of our own ex-captains), he always has his team’s back.

To be honest, i am kinda bored watching the Roots, Williamson, Butlers of the world- yes they are great players, but man - so lifeless & dull as dishwaters. Give me characters like Stokes or Kohli anyday over these guys. And as far these old stick in the muds like David Lloyd are concerned they can very well take a hike!

 

[RajBan]

Comeon, you are taking Kohli’s antics way too seriously - every game needs characters, they are the ones who make it interesting. You need the mavericks like the Ronaldos, Djokovichs, Kohlis, Pontings of the world to spice up the game. Kohli thrives on challenging others- thats what makes him tick! To give him credit though its never directed towards his own team (unlike one of our own ex-captains), he always has his team’s back.

To be honest, i am kinda bored watching the Roots, Williamson, Butlers of the world- yes they are great players, but man - so lifeless & dull as dishwaters. Give me characters like Stokes or Kohli anyday over these guys. And as far these old stick in the muds like David Lloyd are concerned they can very well take a hike!

I don't mind having characters either. But this guy is fake and attention seeker devoid of any humility.

 

[WengerOut]

So nobody has the moral right to point fingers and everyone should stop doing so.

Including Lloyd

 

[JattMaula]

Including Lloyd

Lloyd has Queen given right to police Indians.

 

[street cricketer]

David Lloyd always strikes me as person who longs for the days when the ECB used to run cricket.

 

[Mamoon]

Throw “Bumble” a paycheck and he will don his kurta in no time and start praising Kohli’s attitude and nominate him for spirit of cricket award.

It is fine to criticize Kohli’s behavior but the issue is that you need to have credibility in the first place for your words and your views to have an impact. Our good friend “Bumble” does not have a ounce of credibility and self-respect to begin with.

 

[Ab Fan]

Test series - lost
T20 series - lost
ODI series - 0-1 behind

Hence, its understandable.

 

[street cricketer]

Lloyd's pretty well known for making off handed comments at Indians on social media. Even during the last match, he was apparently making fun of Pune.

I hate Kohli's antics myself and have posted here about that in the past. But I would gladly take someone like Ian Chappell criticising him, who doesn't make those off handed comments and actually makes an effort to understand the culture of the subcontinent or just India in general. Even Boycott doesn't come across as uppity as "Bumble" and that's saying something.

 

[jiduguravindra]

Test series - lost
T20 series - lost
ODI series - 0-1 behind

Hence, its understandable.

These English pundits heavily disturbed from these losses, they are unable to digest that their so called England all time white ball xi taking beating from B grade level indian attack. Lol keep them coming

 

[Last Monetarist]

Lloyd's pretty well known for making off handed comments at Indians on social media. Even during the last match, he was apparently making fun of Pune.

I hate Kohli's antics myself and have posted here about that in the past. But I would gladly take someone like Ian Chappell criticising him, who doesn't make those off handed comments and actually makes an effort to understand the culture of the subcontinent or just India in general. Even Boycott doesn't come across as uppity as "Bumble" and that's saying something.

Lloyd's not fit to be mentioned in the same sentence as Boycott or Chappell. He has no credibility, nor does he have a legendary career in the game. Sky needed a joker in the box to offset the likes of Botham, Gower, and Willis in the early 2000s, so he got a lucrative tv deal. His on-screen personna and views are as contrived as they come.

 

[IAJ]

David Lloyd just wants his man H.Pandya to become captain, that’s why he’s having a go at Virat.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

As always most of the people are focusing more on who was behind the statement than on the statement itself. It seems Kohli can only be criticised by either those who have better stats than him or by those who are richer than him.

 

[WengerOut]

As always most of the people are focusing more on who was behind the statement than on the statement itself. It seems Kohli can only be criticised by either those who have better stats than him or by those who are richer than him.

Not actually. Lloyd mentioned a controversial situation in a match in which Kohli was not even the main cast. He castigated Kohli while giving the main culprit Malan a miss. This accentuated the theory that for the English, anyone other than them is the problem.