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How will history judge Virat Kohli as a Test player?

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Kohli was a great batter but he was not a humble person. Unnecessarily aggressive in the field.
 
Contrary to kohli, the greats line dravud Tendulkar and Dhoni were very very humble.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Yeah you did not read the post i quoted, that wasn’t toxic, right?
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It wasn't, it's his opinion which wasn't directed at you.

Kohli is top 5 odi players of all time and it rank him next to Ponting or slightly >.

However I cant imagine him doing too well in the one ball era, that 3rd offstump line would get him with the current technique he has and he wouldn't do too well against mcgrath either. Similarly he wouldn't do too well against warne either or against leg spin in general due to his obvious struggles against rashid and spin in test cricket in general.

He's clearly not in the realm of viv or Sachin. He is > Lara, De villers and around the same level of Ponting.

And no de villers is not > Ponting as an odi batter. He's not even close.

De villers and Kohli are the 2 most overrated odi batsmen of all time mainly cause people put them on imaginary pedestals.

The best odi batsmen of all time has to be viv because people don't realise how absurdly difficult it is to play the way he did in his red ball, infinite bouncers era.

The 2nd best has to be Sachin due to adapting to 3 different eras. With Ponting and Virat ranking at 3-4.

A player who dominated crickets easiest batting era and broke the century record in odi does deserve a place at 3-4 however.

Also please don't give me the zaheer Abass example, zaheer is the greatest player to ever play on English and Pakistani soil but just horrible in every other conditons. He's a virtual tailender in any conditon not named Pakistan and England.
 
mominsaigol said:
It wasn't, it's his opinion which wasn't directed at you.

Kohli is top 5 odi players of all time and it rank him next to Ponting or slightly >.

However I cant imagine him doing too well in the one ball era, that 3rd offstump line would get him with the current technique he has and he wouldn't do too well against mcgrath either. Similarly he wouldn't do too well against warne either or against leg spin in general due to his obvious struggles against rashid and spin in test cricket in general.

He's clearly not in the realm of viv or Sachin. He is > Lara, De villers and around the same level of Ponting.

And no de villers is not > Ponting as an odi batter. He's not even close.

De villers and Kohli are the 2 most overrated odi batsmen of all time mainly cause people put them on imaginary pedestals.

The best odi batsmen of all time has to be viv because people don't realise how absurdly difficult it is to play the way he did in his red ball, infinite bouncers era.

The 2nd best has to be Sachin due to adapting to 3 different eras. With Ponting and Virat ranking at 3-4.

A player who dominated crickets easiest batting era and broke the century record in odi does deserve a place at 3-4 however.

Also please don't give me the zaheer Abass example, zaheer is the greatest player to ever play on English and Pakistani soil but just horrible in every other conditons. He's a virtual tailender in any conditon not named Pakistan and England.
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You definitely didn’t read it fully.
 
I am surprised he did not get to 10 K Test runs , he is just around 700 runs short. It would have been a big big milestone.
 
Kohli is a legendary and of the best ever limited over players but is way behind Tendulkar, and many others in tests from around the world.
 
He has made so much money in his career, he can afford to retire comfortably and avoid the rigors of test cricket. Unlike Tendulkar, he could not reign in his natural instincts and avoid putting bat to ball, the way the Australian's kept setting him up outside off stump and the manner in which he kept falling for it and could not make adjustments. That is not what great players exhibit under pressure.
 

Virat Kohli Spoke To Ajit Agarkar Twice, Decided To Quit Tests Over 'Lack Of Freedom': Report​


Virat Kohli, as per reports, wanted to lead India again during the England Test series. Since the role wasn't offered, he decided to quit the format.​


Under the current management, he was reportedly not getting the freedom, environment, and kind of vibes he wanted. In comparison to the previous dressing room, the atmosphere in the current setup was a lot different.

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Virat Kohli Spoke To Ajit Agarkar Twice, Decided To Quit Tests Over 'Lack Of Freedom': Report | Cricket News

Virat Kohli, as per reports, wanted to lead India again during the England Test series. Since the role wasn't offered, he decided to quit the format.
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If true, poor from Kohli.

It also proves that Gambhir is not a good man manager.
 
A great of the game.

That Test average of 46 plus will be a low point, but then he has 30 centuries and some clutch innings.
 
He's a good player, but if he were a little less naive, this ground (referring to the opportunity) is very fertile, Saki (possibly a term of endearment or address). But here, whoever gets a little fame gets involved in wrongdoings.
 
mominsaigol said:
no de villers is not > Ponting as an odi batter. He's not even close
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How can you say that when there is a noticable gap that is larger for AB than Ponting when it came to ahead of your peers.

During Ponting era time batting position of 1-6 batsman who played in non minnow teams against non minnow teams had batting average of 33.26 and Strike Rate of 76.Ponting had 41.26 batting average and 80 strike rate vs non minnow teams.Which means his average 24% more along with striking 5% more than his contemporary batsman.

In AB De Villiers time non minnow teams batsman from 1-6 position had average 35 and strike rate 83 against non minnow teams.AB average 54 and strike 100 vs non minnow.He was ahead by having 54% more batting average and 20% higher strike rate than rest of his peers.
So it seems AB was dominating more than Ponting
 
Fanboy375 said:
How can you say that when there is a noticable gap that is larger for AB than Ponting when it came to ahead of your peers.

During Ponting era time batting position of 1-6 batsman who played in non minnow teams against non minnow teams had batting average of 33.26 and Strike Rate of 76.Ponting had 41.26 batting average and 80 strike rate vs non minnow teams.Which means his average 24% more along with striking 5% more than his contemporary batsman.

In AB De Villiers time non minnow teams batsman from 1-6 position had average 35 and strike rate 83 against non minnow teams.AB average 54 and strike 100 vs non minnow.He was ahead by having 54% more batting average and 20% higher strike rate than rest of his peers.
So it seems AB was dominating more than Ponting
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De villers played in 2 eras, one of those eras was easier then the one Ponting played in.

De villers inflated his statistics due to WI and Aus bashing during his 2nd stint.

He was downright useless against big teams in icc events and was a virtual nobody in Ponting's era. Was seen as just an okay batter, he started to shine post ponting but by that time cricket switched to the 2 new ball era
 
THREAD IS NOT ABOUT PONTING AND AB DEVILLIERS.... PLEASE DO NOT DERAIL THE THREAD ANYMORE.
 
Please refrain from personal stuff here... talk about cricket and cricket only.
 
mominsaigol said:
De villers played in 2 eras, one of those eras was easier then the one Ponting played in.

De villers inflated his statistics due to WI and Aus bashing during his 2nd stint.

He was downright useless against big teams in icc events and was a virtual nobody in Ponting's era. Was seen as just an okay batter, he started to shine post ponting but by that time cricket switched to the 2 new ball era
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AB ave 50 against all teams except Eng and Ind.After 2012 and until 2018 players who played at least 50 matches,among them none have better average than AB during that time (2nd best average belonged to Kohli who was at his prime during 2016 year).AB wasn't a good player in early career and he had to improve over time.Even before two new balls AB was good as from 2008 to 2011 he average 53.
 
Fanboy375 said:
AB ave 50 against all teams except Eng and Ind.After 2012 and until 2018 players who played at least 50 matches,among them none have better average than AB during that time (2nd best average belonged to Kohli who was at his prime during 2016 year).AB wasn't a good player in early career and he had to improve over time.Even before two new balls AB was good as from 2008 to 2011 he average 53.
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During Ponting's time he was a nobody. Its only after Ponting declined due to age around 2008-2009 and classic Australia started to dwindle post 2007 is where de villers shined.

He's no where close to Ponting.
 
mominsaigol said:
During Ponting's time he was a nobody. Its only after Ponting declined due to age around 2008-2009 and classic Australia started to dwindle post 2007 is where de villers shined.

He's no where close to Ponting.
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In mid 2000s SA bowling wasn't same as late 90s and early 2000s bowling.From 1995-2002 Ponting average 36 vs SA but average 51 vs them from 2003-2009.Only SA bowling in Ponting era could come close to Australia bowling.Post 2007 Aus bowling was also ahead of everyone else even though they were not in their prime and AB did well against them.He average 68 vs them after post 2008
 
Thank you, Virat, for the great memories. You are one of the main reasons many cricket fans fell in love with the Test format. The best Test captain India has ever had your passion, aggression, and relentless, assertive leadership propelled India to become a dominant team over the years.

There have been so many highs, especially beating a strong Australian side. No one has done to Australia what Kohli did both as a batsman and as a captain. Beyond the numbers, you were a charismatic and aggressive leader who redefined India’s approach to Test cricket, giving the team a sharper, more competitive edge. I especially loved your philosophy: “A drawn game is the last option.”

You are the one of the main reasons I have followed Test cricket for the past 10 years, even watching it ball by ball on many tests.
Only you know whether retirement was the right decision. Wishing you all the very best, Virat. Thank you again.
 
If Kohli started playing in 2000 than he would average 48.So he isn't below players like Pieterson.But he isn't top tier or even equal to Chanderpaul like batsman
 
A wonderful gesture by Cricket Australia. (y)
Cricket Australia has released the BGT milestone moments of Virat Kohli as a tribute to his retirement, a collection of classical cricketing shots against some of the best bowlers.

 
Fanboy375 said:
How can you say that when there is a noticable gap that is larger for AB than Ponting when it came to ahead of your peers.

During Ponting era time batting position of 1-6 batsman who played in non minnow teams against non minnow teams had batting average of 33.26 and Strike Rate of 76.Ponting had 41.26 batting average and 80 strike rate vs non minnow teams.Which means his average 24% more along with striking 5% more than his contemporary batsman.

In AB De Villiers time non minnow teams batsman from 1-6 position had average 35 and strike rate 83 against non minnow teams.AB average 54 and strike 100 vs non minnow.He was ahead by having 54% more batting average and 20% higher strike rate than rest of his peers.
So it seems AB was dominating more than Ponting
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He does not deal in facts and data. Now he will say show world cup final century for Abd. :yk
 
Fanboy375 said:
How can you say that when there is a noticable gap that is larger for AB than Ponting when it came to ahead of your peers.

During Ponting era time batting position of 1-6 batsman who played in non minnow teams against non minnow teams had batting average of 33.26 and Strike Rate of 76.Ponting had 41.26 batting average and 80 strike rate vs non minnow teams.Which means his average 24% more along with striking 5% more than his contemporary batsman.

In AB De Villiers time non minnow teams batsman from 1-6 position had average 35 and strike rate 83 against non minnow teams.AB average 54 and strike 100 vs non minnow.He was ahead by having 54% more batting average and 20% higher strike rate than rest of his peers.
So it seems AB was dominating more than Ponting
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In all sorts of stats and meaningful metrics Abd is ahead of Ponting, Ponting was definitely more clutch but that’s one of the many parameters.

Pontings rating graph is significantly worse than Abd and as you showed Abd is better in peer comparison too.
 
mominsaigol said:
During Ponting's time he was a nobody. Its only after Ponting declined due to age around 2008-2009 and classic Australia started to dwindle post 2007 is where de villers shined.

He's no where close to Ponting.
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Yeah so now you are comparing a player who just started to a veteran at his peak.

Lets do the same for Ponting then, Ponting averaged 44 in tests in the 90s, its only in the 2000s decade when pitches became flat and legendary bowlers retired or lost sheen when Ponting actually started to make bucketload of runs.

Taking this into consideration I can use your idiotic logic and out Gary Kirsten ahead of him but I am knowledgeable so I won’t resort to that.

Peer comparison takes era difference into account and Abd is comfortably ahead of Ricky Ponting as an Odi batsman based on that, actually there is no frekking comparison between these two.
 
Even 46 average is quite good, many great batsmen like Martin Crowe and Desmond Haynes averaged even less ,impact and peer appreciation are more important.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
He has won more ICC tournaments than your whole country, i think that itself explains who inherits cheap Dna.

Kohli has more fans in Pakistan than Younis Khan, yk won’t even be a footnote in cricket history, Kohli will have a whole chapter to his name.
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Depends who is writing the book and what kind of book it is.
 
amax said:
Desmond Haynes
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He was an opener.I will say Kohli is above Mark Taylor but since Taylor was an opener they are very close.I think Gibbs is above Kohli since SA is harder place to bat and Gibbs average higher than Kohli as an opener
 
Former India cricketer Ravi Shastri has revealed the reason Virat Kohli gave him behind his shock retirement from Test cricket:

“I did speak to him about it, I think a week before that [his announcement] and his mind was very clear that he’d given us everything,”

“There were no regrets. There were one or two questions I asked, and that’s a personal conversation which, you know, he mentioned very clearly, there were no doubts in his mind, which made me think, ‘Yes, the time is right’. The mind has told his body that it’s time to go.”

“Virat surprised me because I thought he had at least two-three years of Test match cricket left in him,”

“But then, when you’re mentally fried and overcooked, that’s what tells your body. You might be physically the fittest guy in the business. You might be fitter than half the guys in your team, but mentally you’re well done, as they say, then it sends a message to the body. You know, that’s it.”
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Yeah so now you are comparing a player who just started to a veteran at his peak.

Lets do the same for Ponting then, Ponting averaged 44 in tests in the 90s, its only in the 2000s decade when pitches became flat and legendary bowlers retired or lost sheen when Ponting actually started to make bucketload of runs.

Taking this into consideration I can use your idiotic logic and out Gary Kirsten ahead of him but I am knowledgeable so I won’t resort to that.

Peer comparison takes era difference into account and Abd is comfortably ahead of Ricky Ponting as an Odi batsman based on that, actually there is no frekking comparison between these two.
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Where is ABD's and Kohli's wc final century?
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Former India cricketer Ravi Shastri has revealed the reason Virat Kohli gave him behind his shock retirement from Test cricket:

“I did speak to him about it, I think a week before that [his announcement] and his mind was very clear that he’d given us everything,”

“There were no regrets. There were one or two questions I asked, and that’s a personal conversation which, you know, he mentioned very clearly, there were no doubts in his mind, which made me think, ‘Yes, the time is right’. The mind has told his body that it’s time to go.”

“Virat surprised me because I thought he had at least two-three years of Test match cricket left in him,”

“But then, when you’re mentally fried and overcooked, that’s what tells your body. You might be physically the fittest guy in the business. You might be fitter than half the guys in your team, but mentally you’re well done, as they say, then it sends a message to the body. You know, that’s it.”
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Shastri did make a point, the amount of cricket Kohli has played across all formats, its probably taken 3-4 years off his sporting life. Tendulkar did not have the mileage of T-20 Franchise Cricket and Kohli has played every IPL season since 2009. I think he realized that he just could not deliver anymore or get any better as a batsman in the format.
 
I think he should have been given a farewell. A proper farewell.

Virat deserves it. But maybe when he retires from LOI and all formats, maybe then.
 
BouncerGuy said:
I think he should have been given a farewell. A proper farewell.

Virat deserves it. But maybe when he retires from LOI and all formats, maybe then.
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I have read that Kohli demanded the test captaincy for the England tour whereas the BCCI and Selectors were adamant that it was time for a new leader to be groomed.
 
Savak said:
I have read that Kohli demanded the test captaincy for the England tour whereas the BCCI and Selectors were adamant that it was time for a new leader to be groomed.
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LOL at this demand... He did not even deserve a spot in the team and he wanted to be captain?? I don't think it is true news though...
 
mominsaigol said:
Where is ABD's and Kohli's wc final century?
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Come on, ponting has FOuR chances in world cup finals, he failed in 3 and scored in 1. In that one, the openers had already destroyed the bowling and the moral before he came to bat so it was easier for him.

ABD never got a single chance in world cup final. Give him 4 chances and he would have scored at least 2 100s
 
Sachin fan said:
Come on, ponting has FOuR chances in world cup finals, he failed in 3 and scored in 1. In that one, the openers had already destroyed the bowling and the moral before he came to bat so it was easier for him.

ABD never got a single chance in world cup final. Give him 4 chances and he would have scored at least 2 100s
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I modify my responses based of the posters. Obviously you're one of the smarter ones so I won't make such troll posts.

Anyway Ponting overall is superior for the sane reason Sachin is > Kohli.

Ab de villers started performing when classic Australia started to decline post 2007, even in 2009 Australia was beatable, they weren't the unbeatable monsters of the past.

Similarly most of his domination comes from batting in very easy tracks against rubbish bowling in the 2 new ball era. Yes that 47 ball 147 is a freak if nature innings but overall the bowling is rubbish at the end of the day.

The best bowling era was during classic AU era and Ponting was not only the best batter of his team but he also dominated in his own fc and List A teams.

The issue is post 2007 Ponting started to age, he was purely a reaction hand eye coordination based player and as age started catching up, he started to decline and decline.

His absolute peak in 2006 was compared close or > Sachin's peak which speaks to his caliber.

Its just de villers looks good cause he started dominating when ponting and classic aus started declining and people use the whole but but but the reason de villers sucked early on eas because he was new and Ponting was a veteran which is total nonsense.

He was 21-24 and ironically Kohli's, Sachin's and Ponting's peaks were during this period.

Furthermore he failed to actually step up for his team when it was needed. He hinself is no different from the chokers in his team. I still remember 2015 wc vs Pakistan, that's a classic example of SA choke mentality which de villers was a part of.

He is sa's best ever batsmen but he is not > Ponting as an odi batsmen.
 
mominsaigol said:
I modify my responses based of the posters. Obviously you're one of the smarter ones so I won't make such troll posts.

Anyway Ponting overall is superior for the sane reason Sachin is > Kohli.

Ab de villers started performing when classic Australia started to decline post 2007, even in 2009 Australia was beatable, they weren't the unbeatable monsters of the past.

Similarly most of his domination comes from batting in very easy tracks against rubbish bowling in the 2 new ball era. Yes that 47 ball 147 is a freak if nature innings but overall the bowling is rubbish at the end of the day.

The best bowling era was during classic AU era and Ponting was not only the best batter of his team but he also dominated in his own fc and List A teams.

The issue is post 2007 Ponting started to age, he was purely a reaction hand eye coordination based player and as age started catching up, he started to decline and decline.

His absolute peak in 2006 was compared close or > Sachin's peak which speaks to his caliber.

Its just de villers looks good cause he started dominating when ponting and classic aus started declining and people use the whole but but but the reason de villers sucked early on eas because he was new and Ponting was a veteran which is total nonsense.

He was 21-24 and ironically Kohli's, Sachin's and Ponting's peaks were during this period.

Furthermore he failed to actually step up for his team when it was needed. He hinself is no different from the chokers in his team. I still remember 2015 wc vs Pakistan, that's a classic example of SA choke mentality which de villers was a part of.

He is sa's best ever batsmen but he is not > Ponting as an odi batsmen.
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Peer comparison takes everything into account and I absolutely destroyed you with that post.

Also you don't know how to calculate averages, do you actually consider yourself smart? :yk
 
Thread about Virat Kohli test cricket retirement and the usual ones talking about Ponting vs ABDV in ODI's.

One thing is sure in my mind, Virat Kohli Still wanted to play test cricket for at least 3 years in his mind. He actually doesn't care that much about other cricket as much he cares about test cricket.

So either he was dropped from the England tour and the selectors told him he wasn't in the plan anymore so he retired either a captaincy issue (but that will be Strange).
 
mominsaigol said:
I modify my responses based of the posters. Obviously you're one of the smarter ones so I won't make such troll posts.

Anyway Ponting overall is superior for the sane reason Sachin is > Kohli.

Ab de villers started performing when classic Australia started to decline post 2007, even in 2009 Australia was beatable, they weren't the unbeatable monsters of the past.

Similarly most of his domination comes from batting in very easy tracks against rubbish bowling in the 2 new ball era. Yes that 47 ball 147 is a freak if nature innings but overall the bowling is rubbish at the end of the day.

The best bowling era was during classic AU era and Ponting was not only the best batter of his team but he also dominated in his own fc and List A teams.

The issue is post 2007 Ponting started to age, he was purely a reaction hand eye coordination based player and as age started catching up, he started to decline and decline.

His absolute peak in 2006 was compared close or > Sachin's peak which speaks to his caliber.

Its just de villers looks good cause he started dominating when ponting and classic aus started declining and people use the whole but but but the reason de villers sucked early on eas because he was new and Ponting was a veteran which is total nonsense.

He was 21-24 and ironically Kohli's, Sachin's and Ponting's peaks were during this period.

Furthermore he failed to actually step up for his team when it was needed. He hinself is no different from the chokers in his team. I still remember 2015 wc vs Pakistan, that's a classic example of SA choke mentality which de villers was a part of.

He is sa's best ever batsmen but he is not > Ponting as an odi batsmen.
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What do you think of 2008 to 2018 Aus team bowling attack that AB did well against.In that period Ind had the best win/lose and Aus and SA we're 2nd and 3rd respectively.Ind had the best batting average among the team with 37 and SA had 36 and Aus 33.6.It was clear that Aus was lacking in batting power to become best odi team after Ind and they had bowling power to become such team as their bowling average was 29.8 which was between 29.6 of SA and 32 of NZ.If you look at best bowling average records of bowler who bowl minimum 35 matches in that period than 4 out of top 5 are Australian.Aus bowling wasn't good as 2000s but it was enough to make them odi strong team.He also did well vs NZ bowling.
Well Sachin choked in 2003 final by scoring 4.You can't be such picky because if one remove his performance vs WI AB still has performance in his belt.His away record is 66 which is respective for his era
 
Fanboy375 said:
What do you think of 2008 to 2018 Aus team bowling attack that AB did well against.In that period Ind had the best win/lose and Aus and SA we're 2nd and 3rd respectively.Ind had the best batting average among the team with 37 and SA had 36 and Aus 33.6.It was clear that Aus was lacking in batting power to become best odi team after Ind and they had bowling power to become such team as their bowling average was 29.8 which was between 29.6 of SA and 32 of NZ.If you look at best bowling average records of bowler who bowl minimum 35 matches in that period than 4 out of top 5 are Australian.Aus bowling wasn't good as 2000s but it was enough to make them odi strong team.He also did well vs NZ bowling.
Well Sachin choked in 2003 final by scoring 4.You can't be such picky because if one remove his performance vs WI AB still has performance in his belt.His away record is 66 which is respective for his era
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2008 to 2018 aus is nothing special excluding 2015 aus which was next level in home conditons.

Sachin was facing the world's best bowler and he was still the top scorer in that cup.
 
mominsaigol said:
2008 to 2018 aus is nothing special excluding 2015 aus which was next level in home conditons.

Sachin was facing the world's best bowler and he was still the top scorer in that cup.
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Agree but what batting average should AB should have to rival Ponting?Should he have batting average of 57?
 
Fanboy375 said:
Agree but what batting average should AB should have to rival Ponting?Should he have batting average of 57?
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Its not about Averages but about respective impact. All the greats have had memorable moments that have made them stand out.

Sachin dominated across 3 eras. And while people mock the whole longevity aspect and yes it's true that Sachin never remained consistently at the top, he was always top 5 year by year, but all his rivals in test or odi kept fizzling out unlike Sachin who kept and kept remaining consistent.

Ponting on the other hand was the best batsmen of his team and classic aus had world class players as is. Many times it was the innings that he played that made Australia damn near unbeatable.

Although mcgrath was the undisputed no 1 reason, no doubt about it.

De villers best impact comes from bi laterals bullying which granted in that era was taken seriously but he had zero impact in icc events.

Had SA failed but de villers was the sole outlier in the same way Sachin was in 2003 and 2007 it would have been a different story, but he himself had the exact same choker mentality. He was a part of that circus.

Infact qdk has better icc performances then him, QDK would typically choke in knockout stages while de villers would choke from the get go as soon as the tournament began.

One thing I will say is that an inform de villers is more dangerous and versatile then an inform Ponting. That I will agree on.
 
From 2011 to 2014 and from 2020 to 2025 he average 36.So if one removed his 5 years performance from 2015 to 2019 he average in mid 30s.So it seems Kohli was not useful for India for most of his career
 
Borderline great test player with an ATG peak, and arguably best test batsman in his prime year (2018). Arguably 4th best indian batsman after top 3, and definitely top 5.

Should make all time India test XI.

Do I miss him? No. He overstayed his welcome 2 year ago. Is he a legend in test cricket? Also no.
 
Considering he'll be competing with Tendulkar for a slot in all time Indian test team, he won't get into Indian test team.

At best, he is a shoo in at number 5. But there too VVS has far better credentials and has played far more clutch innings against far better bowling attacks
 
Also both Rohit and Kohli retired because they didn't get their way with selection committee.

Rohit wanted to play only 2/5 England tests while Kohli wanted captaincy of Indian test team.

Shows they were more inclined towards their personal goals rather than the team goals.
 
MP2011 said:
Also both Rohit and Kohli retired because they didn't get their way with selection committee.

Rohit wanted to play only 2/5 England tests while Kohli wanted captaincy of Indian test team.

Shows they were more inclined towards their personal goals rather than the team goals.
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I'm surprised at both of these points considering their age and experience. The Kohli captaincy point seems like fake news too.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Makes me quite sad that even a player with his achievements on and off the field can't shake off the subcontinental trait of selfishness.
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Extending his test career for 5 years despite being mediocre during most of this period is bigger selfishness.

Coming to our T20 team for 1 last Hurrah despite not playing this format for over an year is a bigger trait of selfishness. And he almost cost us the trophy if not for Axar, Bumrah and Sky.

And his career is adorned with plenty of such instances like abandoning team at foreign shores and cauldron that Australia is for visiting teams especially from subcontinent after 36 all out is bigger selfishness.
 
Lol, Raina wants Kohli to be awarded Bharat Ratna.

There must be limit set for sycophancy.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I'm surprised at both of these points considering their age and experience. The Kohli captaincy point seems like fake news too.
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No one knows the truth, it's all media speculation. Media thrown out different types of biscuits it's up to people to pick the one they like, based on their convenience. On cricketing forums like this, certain fangirls pick the biscuit that suits their agenda. :LOL:

Let me explain the chronology of what happened before and after, according to media reports:

Before the retirement, the media claimed that Kohli had informed the BCCI about his decision weeks in advance. However, one of the BCCI’s top representatives (Rajiv Shukla) was reportedly sent to speak with Kohli to convince him to play the England series.
After Kohli announced his retirement, the same media claimed that Kohli took the decision because he asked for the captaincy and the BCCI refused.

These two speculations contradict each other. Why would the BCCI try to convince Kohli to continue in Tests if he had already refused to play without the captaincy? If they truly wanted a new face, they wouldn’t have cared about Kohli’s decision.

Another media narrative suggests that Gambhir doesn’t want any senior players and is looking to build a new team for the next WTC cycle. But the same media also reported that Gambhir’s wings were clipped after the BGT loss and the home whitewash by New Zealand, which is true. BCCI removed some of his handpicked support staff and sent him a strong message.

Basically, the media has covered every angle and left it to the public to interpret the story however they want. Only Kohli and the top BCCI brass know the real truth; we will find out only when they speak.
 
T20 cricket is a little low on thrill, and Test cricket a whole lot poorer now that Virat Kohli has retired from two of the three formats of cricket. However, not all is lost. The ODIs still remain, and with Kohli recently hinting that his next big goal is to play the 2027 World Cup, South Africa in two years from now will experience packed stadiums and choked roads. More so because that, in all probability, will be the last of Virat Kohli ever in cricket. Forget Legends League. Or the MCC bicentenary matches. Or even the IPL. Kohli, by then, will be 39, closing in on 40. And given how he decided to shock the cricketing fraternity and break its heart with his Test cricket at 36, one thing is guaranteed: Kohli will not overstay his welcome.

Which means that we only have two more years to witness the magic that is Virat Kohli. If you haven't seen Kohli play live even once in your life, do it. There won't be another one like him. Former India head coach Ravi Shastri, one of Kohli's close confidantes, is of the same viewpoint. Not too long ago, Kohli, during an RCB event, had said: 'Once I'm gone. I'll be gone. You won't see me for some time', which had the entire Kohli FC upset, and Shastri sees exactly the same thing happening.

"He is still around to serve Indian cricket in ODIs, but I also know that Virat will walk away from the game once he is done playing cricket. He is not the kind who would like to coach or take on the role of a broadcaster. I will miss him when India plays its first Test in England. He was a champion, and that is what I would like to remember – never conceding an inch," Shastri told Sportstar.

The ex-India coach, under whom India became a wonderful touring team – arguably the best in the world, winning back-to-back series in Australia, pushing England to the edge and coming close to a series win in South Africa, the time spent with Kohli comprises some of the best moments of his career. He recently spoke about his conversations with Kohli around his retirement, explaining how India's most successful Test captain was probably 'mentally fried' and gave it everything he had.

Still, at the bottom of his heart, Shastri feels Kohli could have carried on for at least another couple of years. With a testing England series ahead, where the rest of the squad, barring Ravindra Jadeja, Jasprit Bumrah, and Rishabh Pant, lack experience, Kohli's presence could have been monumental. Nonetheless, Shastri has nothing but respect for Kohli and his contributions to Indian cricket.

"I am sure Virat still had two years of Test cricket left in him. I would have loved to see him in England this summer. It would have been a good idea to hand him the captaincy for the tour, but he would know best why he decided to leave. Maybe mental fatigue drove him to decide because he was as fit as any other player in the team. He knew his body best, but the mind would have played the decisive role. I will not rule out burnout as the decisive factor in curtailing his career at a critical phase of Indian cricket," he mentioned.

"For me, Virat will remain the most influential cricketer of the last decade. He had fans worldwide, especially those who turned up at Test matches to watch him bat like no one else. A batsman who could hit a boundary at will and someone who would pick the best bowler in the opposition camp to send a strong message. Undoubtedly the most scrutinised batsman in world cricket, he was also the best prepared to fight in the middle. His making people watch Test cricket will be an enduring legacy. The team will forever miss his wild celebrations at the fall of a wicket and the joy he expressed at a partner’s batting feat."
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Link: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...l-not-coach-or-broadcast-101747643664570.html​
 
Awesome. :inti

Gentleman's game doesn't need a lunatic like Kohli as a coach or a commentator.

What can he teach? How to shoulder bump a 19-year old? :inti
 
sweep_shot said:
Awesome. :inti

Gentleman's game doesn't need a lunatic like Kohli as a coach or a commentator.

What can he teach? How to shoulder bump a 19-year old? :inti
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Yea, instead it needs someone like Shakib Al Hasan who has bought such glory to the game with his conduct.
 
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